Re: DIS: Proto: Sets v0.9

2020-05-20 Thread Alex Smith via agora-discussion
On Wednesday, 20 May 2020, 13:47:34 GMT, Jason Cobb via agora-discussion wrote: > On 5/20/20 2:10 AM, nch via agora-discussion wrote: >> Amend rule 2350 "Proposals" by replacing: >> >> Creating a proposal adds it to the Proposal Pool. >> >> with: >> >> A player CAN add a proposal to the

Re: DIS: Proto: Sets

2020-05-20 Thread Alex Smith via agora-discussion
On Thursday, 14 May 2020, 14:48:20 GMT, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote: > On 5/14/2020 12:14 AM, Reuben Staley via agora-discussion wrote: > > On 5/14/20 1:06 AM, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote: > >> > >> On 5/14/2020 12:00 AM, Reuben Staley wrote: > >>> On 5/13/20 5:54 PM, nch

Re: DIS: Proto: Sets v0.9

2020-05-20 Thread nch via agora-discussion
On Wednesday, May 20, 2020 5:37:55 PM CDT James Cook via agora-discussion wrote: > Trying to get a sense of how the numbers would work out: > > As far as I can tell, cards are created as follows: > * When the game is enacted or someone wins it. (1 Card of each type per > player) * When a player

Re: DIS: Proto: Sets v0.9

2020-05-20 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
Trying to get a sense of how the numbers would work out: As far as I can tell, cards are created as follows: * When the game is enacted or someone wins it. (1 Card of each type per player) * When a player gets a welcome package. (1 Card of each type) * Each officer can create 1 card per month.

Re: DIS: Proto: Sets v0.9

2020-05-20 Thread nch via agora-discussion
On Wednesday, May 20, 2020 8:47:26 AM CDT Jason Cobb via agora-discussion wrote: > > A player CAN, by announcement, pay a 'set' of X Cards of the same type > > to create in eir possession Y corresponding Products. The value of X > > > determines the value of Y in the following ways: > Pedantry:

Re: DIS: Proto: Sets v0.9

2020-05-20 Thread nch via agora-discussion
On Wednesday, May 20, 2020 8:47:26 AM CDT Jason Cobb via agora-discussion wrote: > On 5/20/20 2:10 AM, nch via agora-discussion wrote: > > I'm tired and I'm sure this has obvious mistakes but I believe in getting > > things out there for review as soon as they're presentable, so here's the > >

Re: DIS: Proto: Sets v0.9

2020-05-20 Thread nch via agora-discussion
On Wednesday, May 20, 2020 8:58:19 AM CDT Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-discussion wrote: > On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 9:47 AM Jason Cobb via agora-discussion > > wrote: > > On 5/20/20 2:10 AM, nch via agora-discussion wrote: > > > Amend rule 2350 "Proposals" by replacing: > > >

Re: DIS: Proto: Sets v0.9

2020-05-20 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-discussion
On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 9:47 AM Jason Cobb via agora-discussion wrote: > > On 5/20/20 2:10 AM, nch via agora-discussion wrote: > > Amend rule 2350 "Proposals" by replacing: > > > > Creating a proposal adds it to the Proposal Pool. > > > > with: > > > > A player CAN add a proposal to

Re: DIS: Proto: Sets v0.9

2020-05-20 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 5/20/20 2:10 AM, nch via agora-discussion wrote: > I'm tired and I'm sure this has obvious mistakes but I believe in getting > things out there for review as soon as they're presentable, so here's the > Sets > proposal. Please tear it apart. Trigon I listed you as a co-author because > the

DIS: Proto: Sets v0.9

2020-05-20 Thread nch via agora-discussion
I'm tired and I'm sure this has obvious mistakes but I believe in getting things out there for review as soon as they're presentable, so here's the Sets proposal. Please tear it apart. Trigon I listed you as a co-author because the idea of tying in ministries was brilliant. { Title: Sets

Re: DIS: Proto: Sets

2020-05-14 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 1:57 PM nch via agora-discussion wrote: > > On Thursday, May 14, 2020 3:17:11 PM CDT James Cook via agora-discussion > wrote: > > Is there any reason for a player to transmute victory points at any > > time other than when they want to declare victory? > > > > Not

Re: DIS: Proto: Sets

2020-05-14 Thread nch via agora-discussion
On Thursday, May 14, 2020 3:17:11 PM CDT James Cook via agora-discussion wrote: > Is there any reason for a player to transmute victory points at any > time other than when they want to declare victory? > > Not necessarily a problem, but want to make sure I understand. I guess > the other Card

Re: DIS: Proto: Sets

2020-05-14 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
On Wed, 13 May 2020 at 20:49, nch via agora-discussion wrote: > Extremely proto proposal based on the economic arguments I made elsewhere. > > Introduce 4 new assets and a corresponding Card for each asset: > * Pending Tickets > * Extra Votes > * Blot-B-Gone > * Victory Points > > Every player

Re: DIS: Proto: Sets

2020-05-14 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
On 5/14/2020 12:14 AM, Reuben Staley via agora-discussion wrote: > On 5/14/20 1:06 AM, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote: >> >> On 5/14/2020 12:00 AM, Reuben Staley wrote: >>> On 5/13/20 5:54 PM, nch wrote: Well that's an easy fix. We just need to commit/make-up more Agoran crimes. >>>

Re: DIS: Proto: Sets

2020-05-14 Thread nch via agora-discussion
On Thursday, May 14, 2020 2:08:23 AM CDT Reuben Staley via agora-discussion wrote: > On 5/13/20 2:48 PM, nch via agora-discussion wrote: > > Extremely proto proposal based on the economic arguments I made elsewhere. > > > > Introduce 4 new assets and a corresponding Card for each asset: > > *

Re: DIS: Proto: Sets

2020-05-14 Thread nch via agora-discussion
On Thursday, May 14, 2020 1:54:23 AM CDT Reuben Staley via agora-discussion wrote: > On 5/13/20 3:36 PM, nch via agora-discussion wrote: > > A couple amendments to this proto idea: > > > > Where X = 5 Cards, the player gets 2X. This makes that 5th one especially > > valuable to the set seeker. >

Re: DIS: Proto: Sets

2020-05-14 Thread Reuben Staley via agora-discussion
On 5/14/20 1:06 AM, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote: On 5/14/2020 12:00 AM, Reuben Staley wrote: On 5/13/20 5:54 PM, nch wrote: Well that's an easy fix. We just need to commit/make-up more Agoran crimes. This was something I was going to point out when I got to my computer, but

Re: DIS: Proto: Sets

2020-05-14 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
On 5/14/2020 12:00 AM, Reuben Staley wrote: > On 5/13/20 5:54 PM, nch wrote: >> On Wednesday, May 13, 2020 6:42:08 PM CDT you wrote: >>> For blog-b-gones, I'd think we'd want 1, maybe 2 a week? I mean, we only >>> blot people like once a month anyway...? >>> >>> -Aris >> >> Well that's an easy

Re: DIS: Proto: Sets

2020-05-14 Thread Reuben Staley via agora-discussion
On 5/13/20 2:48 PM, nch via agora-discussion wrote: Extremely proto proposal based on the economic arguments I made elsewhere. Introduce 4 new assets and a corresponding Card for each asset: * Pending Tickets * Extra Votes * Blot-B-Gone * Victory Points Every player starts with 1 Card of each

Re: DIS: Proto: Sets

2020-05-14 Thread Rebecca via agora-discussion
I mean people commit crimes all the time, it's just that nobody points fingers. I, for example, have blatantly and recklessly broken a pledge of mine recently. On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 4:56 PM Reuben Staley via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On 5/13/20 5:54 PM, nch

Re: DIS: Proto: Sets

2020-05-14 Thread Reuben Staley via agora-discussion
On 5/13/20 5:54 PM, nch via agora-discussion wrote: On Wednesday, May 13, 2020 6:42:08 PM CDT you wrote: For blog-b-gones, I'd think we'd want 1, maybe 2 a week? I mean, we only blot people like once a month anyway...? -Aris Well that's an easy fix. We just need to commit/make-up more Agoran

Re: DIS: Proto: Sets

2020-05-14 Thread Reuben Staley via agora-discussion
On 5/13/20 3:36 PM, nch via agora-discussion wrote: A couple amendments to this proto idea: Where X = 5 Cards, the player gets 2X. This makes that 5th one especially valuable to the set seeker. I think the scale needs to be even more different. For 1 card redeemed, you get 1 asset per card.

Re: DIS: Proto: Sets

2020-05-13 Thread nch via agora-discussion
On Wednesday, May 13, 2020 6:42:08 PM CDT you wrote: > For blog-b-gones, I'd think we'd want 1, maybe 2 a week? I mean, we only > blot people like once a month anyway...? > > -Aris Well that's an easy fix. We just need to commit/make-up more Agoran crimes. -- nch

Re: DIS: Proto: Sets

2020-05-13 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 4:38 PM Aris Merchant < thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 4:36 PM nch via agora-discussion < > agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > >> On Wednesday, May 13, 2020 6:20:21 PM CDT Kerim Aydin via >> agora-discussion >> wrote: >> >

Re: DIS: Proto: Sets

2020-05-13 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 4:36 PM nch via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On Wednesday, May 13, 2020 6:20:21 PM CDT Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion > wrote: > > On 5/13/2020 3:52 PM, nch via agora-discussion wrote: > > > Also interested in suggestions for other ways to

Re: DIS: Proto: Sets

2020-05-13 Thread nch via agora-discussion
On Wednesday, May 13, 2020 6:20:21 PM CDT Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote: > On 5/13/2020 3:52 PM, nch via agora-discussion wrote: > > Also interested in suggestions for other ways to receive cards. There > > shouldn't be too many, because too many different ways will reduce > > incentive

Re: DIS: Proto: Sets

2020-05-13 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
On 5/13/2020 3:52 PM, nch via agora-discussion wrote: > Also interested in suggestions for other ways to receive cards. There > shouldn't be too many, because too many different ways will reduce incentive > to > trade. But making different cards obtainable in different flavorful ways >

Re: DIS: Proto: Sets

2020-05-13 Thread nch via agora-discussion
On Wednesday, May 13, 2020 4:40:39 PM CDT Jason Cobb via agora-discussion wrote: > On 5/13/20 5:36 PM, nch via agora-discussion wrote: > > A couple amendments to this proto idea: > > > > Where X = 5 Cards, the player gets 2X. This makes that 5th one especially > > valuable to the set seeker. > >

Re: DIS: Proto: Sets

2020-05-13 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
On 5/13/2020 2:36 PM, nch via agora-discussion wrote: > On Wednesday, May 13, 2020 3:48:49 PM CDT nch via agora-discussion wrote: >> Extremely proto proposal based on the economic arguments I made elsewhere. >> >> Introduce 4 new assets and a corresponding Card for each asset: >> * Pending

Re: DIS: Proto: Sets

2020-05-13 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 5/13/20 5:36 PM, nch via agora-discussion wrote: > A couple amendments to this proto idea: > > Where X = 5 Cards, the player gets 2X. This makes that 5th one especially > valuable to the set seeker. > > Diversify the way they are put into circulation. Victory Points should still > be

Re: DIS: Proto: Sets

2020-05-13 Thread nch via agora-discussion
On Wednesday, May 13, 2020 3:48:49 PM CDT nch via agora-discussion wrote: > Extremely proto proposal based on the economic arguments I made elsewhere. > > Introduce 4 new assets and a corresponding Card for each asset: > * Pending Tickets > * Extra Votes > * Blot-B-Gone > * Victory Points > >

Re: DIS: Proto: Sets

2020-05-13 Thread nch via agora-discussion
On Wednesday, May 13, 2020 4:05:54 PM CDT Reuben Staley via agora-discussion wrote: > On 5/13/20 2:59 PM, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote: > > > > I'm kind of confused by the difference between the "new assets" and the > > "cards" (which are themselves assets?) in this description? > > I

Re: DIS: Proto: Sets

2020-05-13 Thread Reuben Staley via agora-discussion
On 5/13/20 2:59 PM, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote: On 5/13/2020 1:48 PM, nch via agora-discussion wrote: Extremely proto proposal based on the economic arguments I made elsewhere. Introduce 4 new assets and a corresponding Card for each asset: * Pending Tickets * Extra Votes *

Re: DIS: Proto: Sets

2020-05-13 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
On 5/13/2020 1:48 PM, nch via agora-discussion wrote: > Extremely proto proposal based on the economic arguments I made elsewhere. > > Introduce 4 new assets and a corresponding Card for each asset: > * Pending Tickets > * Extra Votes > * Blot-B-Gone > * Victory Points > > Every player starts

DIS: Proto: Sets

2020-05-13 Thread nch via agora-discussion
Extremely proto proposal based on the economic arguments I made elsewhere. Introduce 4 new assets and a corresponding Card for each asset: * Pending Tickets * Extra Votes * Blot-B-Gone * Victory Points Every player starts with 1 Card of each type, also include them in Welcome Packages. Auction