Re: [android-developers] Re: Advertising opt out

2012-10-31 Thread Francisco Marzoa
That's what others has said before, the problem is that they have not support that claim with ANY proof. You didn't neither, so... Best regards, On 10/31/2012 12:30 AM, Daniel wrote: Admob and others use the CTR when determining what bids to give your app, or to give any at all. If you have a

[android-developers] Re: Advertising opt out

2012-10-30 Thread Daniel
Admob and others use the CTR when determining what bids to give your app, or to give any at all. If you have a small CTR, all of your users will see less ads, and ads with lower bids. As a result, users who are likely to, or do click on ads, will see fewer ads, and those they do see and click

[android-developers] Re: Advertising opt out

2012-09-24 Thread Jethro Borsje
Is it documentend somewhere what determines the income per click? That way we can be sure about the best approach. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To

[android-developers] Re: Advertising opt out

2012-09-24 Thread Nathan
On Sunday, September 23, 2012 5:08:15 AM UTC-7, John Coryat wrote: I don't deny that. But who cares about CPM? If you have the same amount of C's and less M, the R has not increased, in all likelihood. Well, I for one care about eCPM. OK, but your previous comments said that it made a

[android-developers] Re: Advertising opt out

2012-09-23 Thread John Coryat
I don't deny that. But who cares about CPM? If you have the same amount of C's and less M, the R has not increased, in all likelihood. Well, I for one care about eCPM. Ours is currently $2.43. If you have a better eCPM then perhaps you are right and I am wrong. On the other hand, there

Re: [android-developers] Re: Advertising opt out

2012-09-23 Thread Francisco Marzoa
You could have -or simply claim to have, since there is no way for us to check it- an eCPM of $200 and you will be still wrong: the problem has nothing to see with your eCPM, the problem is that you are clearly miss understanding the meaning and calculation of such metrics. On the other hand

[android-developers] Re: Advertising opt out

2012-09-19 Thread b0b
On Monday, 17 September 2012 18:18:13 UTC+2, John Coryat wrote: Many developers force users to purchase something in order to remove advertisements from their apps. While this may seem to be a good revenue model, it tends to annoy and anger users. It has some other serious consequences

[android-developers] Re: Advertising opt out

2012-09-19 Thread John Coryat
Increasing CTR increases CPM. If you want to deny that, you're also denying yourself potential revenue. There's no simple math here as Rudolf explained. But forget the revenue. What is the point of an app anyway? It's providing a useful bit of software that improves the usability of the device

[android-developers] Re: Advertising opt out

2012-09-19 Thread Nathan
On Wednesday, September 19, 2012 4:45:26 AM UTC-7, John Coryat wrote: Increasing CTR increases CPM. If you want to deny that, you're also denying yourself potential revenue. There's no simple math here as Rudolf explained. I don't deny that. But who cares about CPM? If you have the same

[android-developers] Re: Advertising opt out

2012-09-17 Thread William Ferguson
Curious. I'm about to introduce the ability to make an in app purchase to remove all the ads. I get very few comments on the fact the app contains ads, perhaps because it's always had them and I;ve been very up front in the market description about how it's funded. I get about the same number

Re: [android-developers] Re: Advertising opt out

2012-09-17 Thread Francisco Marzoa
I agree. Also my ratio of 'I don't like ads' complains is about one on ten thousands or so... nothing to be worried about. Most -and I mean MOST- of users seems to find reasonable to have ads on free app. On Sep 18, 2012 2:49 AM, William Ferguson william.ferguson...@gmail.com wrote: Curious.

Re: [android-developers] Re: Advertising opt out

2012-09-17 Thread John Coryat
We've found from our statistics that 97.5% of users don't opt out even when it is free to do so. Those that hate ads are vocal about their dislike so they are the ones who give one star negative reviews. If nothing else, getting them to remain quiet has a lot of value, more so than the paltry