Re: ADV: Re: [arslist] Script Generation

2012-01-12 Thread Guillaume Rheault
well... even programmers need to eat (sometimes). I don't think the $99 would feed everybody at Kinetic! (not even the $1 menu all day everyday) From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] on behalf of patrick zandi [remedy...@gmail

Re: INC/PBI/CHG Next ID question

2012-01-12 Thread Gmail
You will need to delete records from the B and H tables as well. Moe. From: Daniel Pritchard [mailto:daniel.b.pritch...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 10:28 AM Subject: Re: INC/PBI/CHG Next ID question ** Thanks, I needed something like that so that I can show management.

Re: Script Generation

2012-01-12 Thread Guillaume Rheault
Shawn , I need to chive in because I think everybody that has replied to the threads is missing the point, except you. You got it. When you state that BMC seems to be going away from AR System as a development platform, I think you are almost right: I do not think that BMC has ever really inten

Re: Script Generation

2012-01-12 Thread Jose Huerta
Yes you can, but it is not Remedy. Remedy can "Integrate" with external code. And also this is only available on the server. So to validate a phone number you must call a service filter. That's is an unnecessary overhead. This validation can be performed at the presentation layer while the user inp

Re: How to add new column in SHR:OverviewConsole in the Admin Tool.

2012-01-12 Thread Ramey, Anne
Yes, I did. Anne Ramey   *** E-mail correspondence to and from this address may be subject to the North Carolina Public Records Law and may be disclosed to third parties only by an authorized State Official. -Original Message- From: Action Request System

Re: Script Generation

2012-01-12 Thread Jason Miller
Maybe not as elegant as a filter plugin but we use a Run Process to call a script (.vbs, bat, whatever) when we need to make functions (phone number format/validation is one). Jason On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 1:24 PM, LJ LongWing wrote: > ** > > On the ‘function’ note…it’s actually relatively easy

Re: License Review form in server groups -Current Users how to read

2012-01-12 Thread LJ LongWing
Mauricio, When we moved to Server Groups early last year I ended up writing a small java app.could easily be written in Perl, or any other API language that you like..but it is quite simple.it logs into both servers, getting a list of the connected users. It then bounces the two list against each

Overlay and Applications

2012-01-12 Thread John Baker
Guillaume, Happy to compare with HP Service Manager: the product uses a script based approach whilst also providing users with a UI. Locking/reserving objects isn't source control: it's visual source safe, circa 1995. VSS has since died. I made a very simple, obvious suggestion: storing the sche

Re: Overlay and Applications

2012-01-12 Thread LJ LongWing
I did a fair amount of KML during my stint at MCI/Worldcom/EDS (none of which exist anymore)wouldn't wish it on anyonedon't even list it on my resume :) -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Guillaume Rhe

Re: Script Generation

2012-01-12 Thread LJ LongWing
On the ‘function’ note…it’s actually relatively easy to program that…with a filter plugin…yes it steps out of Remedy, but Remedy supports it J From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Jose Huerta Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2012 1:55 PM To

Re: How to add new column in SHR:OverviewConsole in the Admin Tool.

2012-01-12 Thread gok's
did you restarted the server ? Ramey, Anne-2 wrote: > > I've done this for 100150 (Status Reason) and still don't see the > values. I don't see anything in the plugin logs to indicate an issue. > Any ideas? Either on what might be wrong or where I might look? > > Anne Ramey >

Re: Overlay and Applications

2012-01-12 Thread Jose Huerta
It doesn't work like that. First, version control is independent for each element at the server. You don't rollback to a date, you rollback some workflow or some forms to a previous state, remaining the rest untouched. Second, two people working separately on the same object is not desirable. In

Re: Overlay and Applications

2012-01-12 Thread Jose Huerta
Believe me, I don't want to make publicity of my blog, is jut for not rewriting it again: http://theremedyforit.com/2011/12/version-control-in-bmc-ars/ Regards, Jose Huerta http://theremedyforit.com/ On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 21:31, LJ LongWing wrote: > John, > Starting with 7.5 (I think it w

Re: Overlay and Applications

2012-01-12 Thread Guillaume Rheault
John, It seems to me you are not familiar with the latest features of ARS or Mid-tier. To many features and enhancements have been introduced since ARS and mid-tier 6.3. It looks like you are not familiar with DevStudio either, since you refer to the admin tool. The platform is being improved.

Overlay and Applications

2012-01-12 Thread John Baker
So, three developers are working on something. Developer A decides that he needs to re-run the application as per date X. If that means developers B and C see the same change, it's not useful version control, particularly if there are no diffs. Indeed, do developers B and C, who may have also bee

Re: Script Generation

2012-01-12 Thread Jose Huerta
Remedy has one great advantage, it is very easy to create new easy applications. It is as easy as creating them in MS Access. Also if you follow a few rules, you don't need to care about concurrency, security, and a lot of best practice that a Java or .Net developer must consider. As I published i

Re: License Review form in server groups -Current Users how to read

2012-01-12 Thread patchsk
Your interpretation is correct. License review screen shows users connected to that specific server even if it is part of a servergroup. So basically you add users across all servers, that gives you the count of total users connected to your arsystem. However there is a possibility that some use

Re: License Review form in server groups -Current Users how to read

2012-01-12 Thread Easter, David
If you are referring to the defect in the License Usage Report when running in server groups, that has been corrected. Please see the following technical bulletin: 10-Nov-2011 Describes an issue in the BMC IT Service Management Suite which prevents the license usage report from di

Re: Overlay and Applications

2012-01-12 Thread LJ LongWing
John, Starting with 7.5 (I think it was), Remedy included a Version Control capability that the system can automatically make a backup def of all code as it's modified. So it keeps versions of specific code and suchthe problem is this. The export of this information is in Def format. I canno

Re: License Review form in server groups -Current Users how to read

2012-01-12 Thread Andrew C Goodall
You can't very easily - there is a bug in BMCs license tracking across an AR server group environment - and at least I can't be bothered to spend the time with support to try and get them to fix it. Bascially, the way I do it is to capture snapshot of active users during busiest part of online

License Review form in server groups -Current Users how to read

2012-01-12 Thread Mauricio M.
Hello people, One question about License Review option (Manage User License form), if you attempt to read the current server/application user count, if you have two or more arservers sharing the user load in a server group through a load balancer, how would you read and understand the user count?

Re: Overlay and Applications

2012-01-12 Thread Easter, David
> please tell me how I revert a form to its state at any point in time since AR > System was installed What's New: BMC Remedy Action Request System 7.5.00: http://documents.bmc.com/supportu/documents/84/15/98415/98415.pdf The AR System server provides the following version control functions: [

Re: How to add new column in SHR:OverviewConsole in the Admin Tool.

2012-01-12 Thread Ramey, Anne
I've done this for 100150 (Status Reason) and still don't see the values. I don't see anything in the plugin logs to indicate an issue. Any ideas? Either on what might be wrong or where I might look? Anne Ramey *** E-mail correspondence to and from this add

Re: AR Report Out Of Memory issue | hotfix ready

2012-01-12 Thread Matt Laurenceau
Thanks for this feedback, didn't know what other specifics were needed. Ravi will be able to weigh in in a couple of hours, during his shift. Or someone else may share in between. Cheers, Matt Laurenceau Senior Community Ambassador, BMC Communities matthieu_laurenc...@bmc.com Follow me @Matt_L

Overlay and Applications

2012-01-12 Thread John Baker
Guillaume I do take onboard your points but I have to disagree: AR System provides no version control. If you believe it does, please tell me how I revert a form to its state at any point in time since AR System was installed, and no, taking hourly backups of my database isn't a useful step for

Re: How to link a Case ID on a report to open the report

2012-01-12 Thread Andrew C Goodall
This is for an ITSM incident. Here is an example we use in an SSRS report navigation: = "http:///arsys/forms//HPD%3AHelp+Desk/Best+Practice+V iew/?qual='100161'=%22" & Fields!Incident_Number.Value & "%22" You can use the same approach and just change syntax to what you need. Regar

Re: Overlay and Applications

2012-01-12 Thread Guillaume Rheault
John, I don't agree in regressing the ARS platform into a 3 GL or 3.5 GL. Posts have been submitted in the past where the consensus is that ARS is at least 4 GL, bordering on 5 GL. The freedom is there for programmers to create applications in any language they like: Python, Java, .net, etc. De

How to link a Case ID on a report to open the report

2012-01-12 Thread Oyefeso, Bola
Hello everyone, Does anyone know how to create a link to the Case ID on the report so that when the user runs the report on the web, it will open the case. Is there a way to do it? Bola Oyefeso ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or

Re: SLM INstallation information

2012-01-12 Thread Easter, David
Compatibility matrices can be found here: http://www.bmc.com/support/reg/remedy-compatibility-tables.html SLM documentation can be found here: http://webapps.bmc.com/support/faces/az/prodversion.jsp?prodverseqid=189035&ic=0 Your first issue will be that SLM 7.6.04 is not supported on AR System

Re: AR Report Out Of Memory issue | hotfix ready

2012-01-12 Thread patchsk
Who can provide a few more details about the hotfix. May be a defect number etc?. I just created a ticket with the information in your blog and BMC Customer support has no clue about the hotfix I was referring to. ___ UN

LDAP CONFIG - Questions

2012-01-12 Thread Bajwa, Ibrar
Hi All, I had a few questions for LDAP config on 7.6.04. - Out of the box, BMC has one adapter for config and may only be used for 1 target? - If LDAP is already configured for 1 tenancy, effort wise: is it a lot of work to replicate the same LDAP config for a second tenanc

Re: Script Generation

2012-01-12 Thread Pierson, Shawn
LJ, I agree that you can do this to an extent within Remedy (although I don't agree with plugins for most things because it takes code outside of Remedy just like using stored procedures.) When I was consulting, I remember one application using some stored procedures within the database, some

Re: Script Generation

2012-01-12 Thread John Sundberg
John, It would not take that much effort (to make a converter). In fact -- I have already written much of it (3 years ago during a summer vacation in Connecticut). (OK -- I looked at the code -- *** it is over 4 years ago) I called my system (Rubedy) -- as I was taking arxml files and generating

OT: Script Generation

2012-01-12 Thread Jason Miller
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Re: OOTB Objects upgraded as Unmodified Objects on ARS 7.6.04

2012-01-12 Thread LJ LongWing
Yes, you certainly CAN use that plugin.I certainly do J From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Tadeu Augusto Dutra Pinto Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2012 10:03 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: OOTB Objects upgraded as Unmodified Obj

Re: ADV: Re: [arslist] Script Generation

2012-01-12 Thread patrick zandi
I agree john: how about running a $99.00 special.. download and install and use unlimited for 1 year... and then ask for a support key On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 11:37 AM, John Sundberg < john.sundb...@kineticdata.com> wrote: > ** > (WARNING: I suggest Kinetic Request at the end) > > And shareable.

Re: Script Generation

2012-01-12 Thread patrick zandi
not to hi-jack... the only issue I have found with start/shutdown is shutdown.. They installed the collector / slm side into apache, with no application interface to shut it down.. For Example: ./shutdown.sh in apache -- does not shut the apache collector off: it is still running... and hangs if yo

Re: Script Generation

2012-01-12 Thread patrick zandi
30 min startup times? huh? mine takes 5 or less.. on Solaris: Im installing on VM / oracle 11R2 Linux 64bit now.(will know about that one soon) >>Onbenefits - not least an end to the 30 minute start up times for ITSM 7.6.04. > > > -- Patrick Zandi ___

Re: OOTB Objects upgraded as Unmodified Objects on ARS 7.6.04

2012-01-12 Thread Tadeu Augusto Dutra Pinto
Hi LJ, First of all, the apps I was talking about is 100% COTS! I've been misunderstood all this time about OOTB J, and... in the last times I was getting scared about these new concepts related to Customization Types on ARS 7.6 architecture. Thanks a lot for your detailed reply. One m

Script Generation

2012-01-12 Thread John Baker
Gavin: I was surprised you admitted to not being a very good developer given your experience with XPath, which I would argue isn't on page 1, 2, 3 or 4 of the "How to script" guide. I return to my original argument: I don't think it's beyond the wit of the majority of people to fiddle with scr

Re: Overlay and Applications

2012-01-12 Thread LJ LongWing
Fred, How would you like to still create your app in exactly the same way you can today, but also be able to do all of the versioning and merging stuff that Axton just posted about? -Original Message- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Beha

Re: Script Generation

2012-01-12 Thread Coleman, Gavin
Ah. That makes a bit more sense now! I didn't understand what the point of the script was. Now I know that it's simply the way that Remedy would store the workflow defined by the user in Developer Studio I can totally see the benefits of it. As long as we kept the ease of use of Remedy and the d

Re: Overlay and Applications

2012-01-12 Thread Grooms, Frederick W
I have to disagree... The fact that everything is stored in the database is one of the biggest advantages to the Action Request System. I don't know why I would want to go from my 4GL system back to 3GL scripting. I have yet to find anything worthwhile that is impossible to implement in AR Sy

Re: Script Generation

2012-01-12 Thread Axton
Try upgrading a SharePoint site that is multi-TB in size with thousands of user generated applications with all that custom content/coding... It's a huge effort. Sadly, the backwards compatibility of those custom coded components is not always so straight forward. The merits of what John propose

Re: Script Generation

2012-01-12 Thread LJ LongWing
Remedy has this ability toocalled plugins. You can build filter plugins in Perl, Java, CI'm sure a few others that I'm not familiar with. With the API model, you can build entirely custom clients that do wondrous things. All if this is wonderful and great and allbut I think what John

Re: Script Generation

2012-01-12 Thread Pierson, Shawn
LJ, Having worked some with SharePoint, I've seen how it could be advantageous to build an ITSM suite completely on that platform rather than using AR System. There are even tools that can be used within Visio to make workflow. Granted, to do the really complex stuff you need to be a .NET dev

Re: OOTB Objects upgraded as Unmodified Objects on ARS 7.6.04

2012-01-12 Thread LJ LongWing
Tadeu, OOTB has always referred to what you get when you by the product..in this case, the 'product' from BMC would be 'ITSM', or one of its other offerings.if you are talking about code you wrote, that is not OOTB because you created it.you didn't purchase it from anyone.another name for OOTB is

Re: How to know the ITSM and Patch Level instaled?

2012-01-12 Thread VARGAS, JESUS EMILIO (JESUS EMILIO)
Great!!, Thanks. Regards. J. Emilio Vargas From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Tauf Chowdhury Sent: Jueves, 12 de Enero de 2012 09:16 a.m. To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: How to know the ITSM and Pa

Script Generation

2012-01-12 Thread LJ LongWing
John, I'm changing the topic as to not hijack the original thread. You bring up an interesting thought. I was involved with a discussion with MicroFocus (parent company of Borland, maker of SilkTest) regarding their test generation application...it's a simple point/click interface, but you can, i

Re: How to know the ITSM and Patch Level instaled?

2012-01-12 Thread Tauf Chowdhury
It's SHR:Application Properties On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 10:13 AM, VARGAS, JESUS EMILIO (JESUS EMILIO) < jesus_emilio.var...@alcatel-lucent.com> wrote: > ** > > Hi All > > ** ** > > I’m cheking a new Remedy environment and i don’t remember the name form > where can I check the ITSM version and

How to know the ITSM and Patch Level instaled?

2012-01-12 Thread VARGAS, JESUS EMILIO (JESUS EMILIO)
Hi All I'm cheking a new Remedy environment and i don't remember the name form where can I check the ITSM version and patch level installed, Some one can share my the name form where can confirm the ITSM Version and patch level? Best Regards. Emilio Vargas _

Re: Overlay and Applications

2012-01-12 Thread John Sundberg
Disadvantage: Less ability to complain about ARS - which is sometimes fun. Other than that - I am stumped for a reason. (I would list the positives - but I have created large emails before on ARSList - and I run into the max email length problem -- I predict I would run into that again) -John

Re: Can RUG 12 survive this...

2012-01-12 Thread patrick zandi
The Stated reason: Labor Union took all their money: they did not learn the previous lesson, so they are going to do a chapter 11 and well.. I guess well see.. There were even people on the DOLE that were not even employees due to the labor union.. how nice.. Pay people who do not work Large Salari

Re: Can RUG 12 survive this...

2012-01-12 Thread arslist
Twinkies are their most valuable asset, Hostess that is not the twinkies lodged in chandeliers in hotel ballrooms across North America. So, I would think even if they go under, they will sell the rights to make twinkies, and of course they are easy enough to hoard. [they do have an expiry date

Re: OOTB Objects upgraded as Unmodified Objects on ARS 7.6.04

2012-01-12 Thread Tadeu Augusto Dutra Pinto
Hello, Thanks for reply... but I guess I have to be more clear... When I said "OOTB (Out-Of-The-Box)" I mean not BMC objects, but other forms and workflows created by ourselves. For example, forms named ABC:Customer, ABC:Whatever and so on... I always understood "OOTB" objects as fo

Re: CMDB 7.6.04 SP2 Error

2012-01-12 Thread BradRemedy
Hi Mark Thanks for that Just had a look and it does seem to be related. Dont suppose anyone has any idea on when SP3 is being released? The only other thing I can try is to use SP1 and see if the same error occurs. At the end of the day we would prefer not to have to wait months for SP3 as it wil

Re: CMDB 7.6.04 SP2 Error

2012-01-12 Thread Walters, Mark
There's a very similar looking defect that looks likely to be fixed in 7.6.04 SP3. I suggest you open an issue with BMC and reference defect SW00416229, support should be able to confirm whether it's the same problem. Mark I work for BMC, I don't speak for them From: Action Request System disc

Re: CMDB 7.6.04 SP2 Error

2012-01-12 Thread Tauf Chowdhury
OK so just to make sure... Did you completely flush the mid tier cache AFTER doing the Atrium install? Make sure to delete the files within the cache folder in the root mid tier directory. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 12, 2012, at 6:53 AM, BradRemedy wrote: ** Hi We have run into a wierd erro

CMDB 7.6.04 SP2 Error

2012-01-12 Thread BradRemedy
Hi We have run into a wierd error that we cannot find any reference to on the ARSList, Manuals or Support web. Hopefully someone here can offer some suggestions on what we can try next as we are quickly running out of ideas and have tried this upgrade a few times. Firstly some background info

Overlay and Applications

2012-01-12 Thread John Baker
Jose, I'm pleased you agree and don't. Let me tackle the don't: I'm not suggesting there shouldn't be a user interface/admin tool, and there is no reason why that can't remain. However, the current approach of trying to put workflow into a database isn't working because functionality that was

Re: Overlay and Applications

2012-01-12 Thread Coleman, Gavin
I’ve got to say that I strongly disagree with this. I can certainly follow John’s script, but following and doing are two entirely different things. I have had very little formal training in “traditional” programming languages – a basic level .NET C# course and an Open University course is about