[AsburyPark] Re: Tax Increase

2006-07-20 Thread oakdorf
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That is why I like the idea of a flat sales tax versus property tax. This way everyone (homeowners, renters, business people, visitors, etc) that use our resources (highways, sanitation, education, etc.) will pay their fair

[AsburyPark] Another shooting

2006-07-20 Thread Allan Peterson
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[AsburyPark] Re: Another shooting

2006-07-20 Thread Hinge
ASBURY PARK — A man was killed in a shooting Wednesday night, said City Manager Terence Reidy. The man and a woman, whose identities were not available late Wednesday night, were shot on Main Street between 9 and 10 p.m. Assistant City Manager James Famularo said the shootings took place in

[AsburyPark] Re: Traffic Ticket prices have been increased in NJ

2006-07-20 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I believe I work for an area larger that Monmouth County, but do not quote me. New York State does not require the original certificates for the odometer, just a photocopy. For RADAR or LASER, New York State requires just the

[AsburyPark] Re: Traffic Ticket prices have been increased in NJ

2006-07-20 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would like to ask where you get your information from. Are you a traffic court lawyer? Often, regular lawyers feel all of the rules of regular court apply to traffic court and they are wrong. Traffic court is an

[AsburyPark] Re: Another shooting

2006-07-20 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You are right. Anyone know details? It is one thing if gang or drug dealers are killing eachother. That does not worry me as much since I am neither. If it was a robbery gone bad or people in the wrong place at

[AsburyPark] Re: Another shooting

2006-07-20 Thread oakdorf
whoever posted: It is one thing if gang or drug dealers are killing eachother. That does not worry me as much since I am neither. If it was a robbery gone bad or people in the wrong place at the wrong time, that would make me uneasy What logic. You belong on the council. A gun is a gun. So

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Another shooting

2006-07-20 Thread Lighty
Title: Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Another shooting So gangs and drugs are ok - ok in your new town? As long as theyre taking care of the real bad stuff... Like bikes on the boardwalk Gotta say I found it a little amusing at the pride people had at the Council meeting last night saluting some

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Traffic Ticket prices have been increased - Why is it

2006-07-20 Thread Lighty
Title: Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Traffic Ticket prices have been increased - Why is it Why is it that enforcement appears to be strictest not where danger lurks but rather where fish in the barrel are known to congregate; why is it that DWI checks rarely, if ever, catch police officers known to

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Another shooting

2006-07-20 Thread Allan Peterson
Did all vote yes or did some vote no. If so can you namedfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED]ups.com, Allan Peterson nnjallans1@... wrote: You are right. Anyone know details? It is one thing if gang or drug dealers are killing eachother. That does not worry me as much

[AsburyPark] Re: Another shooting

2006-07-20 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did all vote yes or did some vote no. If so can you name Keady voted no. The Gang of Four (Loffredo, Bruno, Sanders and Johnson) voted yes. Bruno appeared to be on the fence, but was only teasing us.

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Another shooting

2006-07-20 Thread Lighty
Title: Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Another shooting --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com mailto:AsburyPark%40yahoogroups.com , Allan Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did all vote yes or did some vote no. If so can you name Keady voted no. The Gang of Four (Loffredo, Bruno, Sanders and Johnson)

[AsburyPark] Faith Based Outreach services in the USA

2006-07-20 Thread jerseykev
07.20.2006Church Wins Right to Continue, Expand Ministries Upper Lake, CA—A church in Northern California recently overcame heated opposition from local residents to obtain a use permit to continue its outreaches to the community.North Shore Christian Fellowship, located near scenic

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Another shooting

2006-07-20 Thread Allan Peterson
surprised at johnsondfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED]ups.com, Allan Peterson nnjallans1@... wrote: Did all vote yes or did some vote no. If so can you name Keady voted no. The Gang of Four (Loffredo, Bruno, Sanders and Johnson) voted yes. Bruno appeared to be on

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Another shooting

2006-07-20 Thread Allan Peterson
It said in the paper that this was due to an error in the wording. Anyone know infor on this?Lighty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com mailto:AsburyPark%40yahoogroups.com , Allan Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did all vote yes or did some vote no. If so can you

[AsburyPark] Re: Another shooting

2006-07-20 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: surprised at johnson He constantly surprises me. I am at the moment investigating the validity of the city's claim regarding a riparian grant on the Triangle. Preliminary analysis shows that there is none and that it

[AsburyPark] Family Values!

2006-07-20 Thread carlchesna
RE: I do not believe Jesus Christ (never read a hateful word out of his mouth in the New Testament), Gandhi and Martin Luther King (both of whom have relatives speaking out today for gay rights), Thomas Jefferson(the big pusher of Separation between Church and State), and American Indians

[AsburyPark] Re: Traffic Ticket prices have been increased - Why is it

2006-07-20 Thread Tom Wolfe
why is it that DWI checks rarely, if ever, catch police officers known to become impaired at the same bars as other citizens I have to disagree with this statement. I know a few police officers that have been arrested for DWI. Actually, I know more police officers than Joe Citizen

[AsburyPark] Re: Traffic Ticket prices have been increased - Why is it

2006-07-20 Thread Tom Wolfe
That is one of my favorite tickets. Yet, when you give one out, often you get the dont you have a crime to stop reply. tom Posted by: Lighty [EMAIL PROTECTED] lightgrw Thu Jul20,2006 9:38am (PST) Why is it that enforcement appears to be strictest not where danger lurks but

[AsburyPark] validity of the city's claim regarding a riparian grant

2006-07-20 Thread oakdorf
Dan, That problem may have impacted the original plan to build on the Marine Grill site. I just don't remember the details. I was a still a dumb kid then working on getting married. So you mean to say that in effect, The triangle comes with a beach (privatized) as well? Did any of the

[AsburyPark] Re: validity of the city's claim regarding a riparian grant

2006-07-20 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dan, That problem may have impacted the original plan to build on the Marine Grill site. I just don't remember the details. I was a still a dumb kid then working on getting married. So you mean to say that in effect,

[AsburyPark] Re: validity of the city's claim regarding a riparian grant

2006-07-20 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did any of the appraisals note that in their report of the triangle. Are you kidding? They didn't even include the street vacation areas which the sales agreement clearly defines as enlarging the premises. In the end, they

[AsburyPark] Re: validity of the city's claim regarding a riparian grant

2006-07-20 Thread wernerapnj
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is going to be consequences to lying to the public if that is what occurred. HA, HAHA, HAHAHA, AAA, ROTFL, LOL No consequences yet to the many lies and misrepresentations handed to the public regarding the

[AsburyPark] Re: validity of the city's claim regarding a riparian grant

2006-07-20 Thread oakdorf
-somewhere there was a once some proposals to develop the marine grill site. At some point in time, the DEP and or the city denied the proposal. I'll think about it. Maybe it wound up in the shredder. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Yahoo! Groups

[AsburyPark] Re: validity of the city's claim regarding a riparian grant

2006-07-20 Thread oakdorf
from Peter lucia's amzing ap site: http://homepage.mac.com/peterlucia/noweverthen/asbury/ap2fold/ap2.31.html the old triangle and marine grill. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Yahoo! Groups gets a make over. See the new email design.

[AsburyPark] Re: validity of the city's claim regarding a riparian grant

2006-07-20 Thread oakdorf
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[AsburyPark] Re: validity of the city's claim regarding a riparian grant

2006-07-20 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsavgny@ wrote: There is going to be consequences to lying to the public if that is what occurred. HA, HAHA, HAHAHA, AAA, ROTFL, LOL No consequences yet to the

[AsburyPark] Re: validity of the city's claim regarding a riparian grant

2006-07-20 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -somewhere there was a once some proposals to develop the marine grill site. At some point in time, the DEP and or the city denied the proposal. I'll think about it. Maybe it wound up in the shredder. I have it, it is in

[AsburyPark] Re: validity of the city's claim regarding a riparian grant

2006-07-20 Thread oakdorf
the 2002 agreement and the master plan don't even agree over the marine grill site. Besides, in any other town, as it should be here - this is WETLANDS. Take the example from Shark River and other little piece of water - 300' from the water THEN start your setbacks.

[AsburyPark] Re: validity of the city's claim regarding a riparian grant

2006-07-20 Thread oakdorf
-got to back even further to the mid 70's when the first deal to sell the boardwalk was hatched to a guy from Red bank named robert Oberst or something close. I don't have docs, but perhaps werner could help pin down the time frame - 76-78 around there. Yahoo!

[AsburyPark] Re: More dumping in/on Asbury Park...

2006-07-20 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone know if it is really true that AP houses the only meth clinic in Monmouth County ? Based upon my research, yes. Here they are Main Phone 732-988-8877 JSAS HealthCare, Inc.

[AsburyPark] Re: validity of the city's claim regarding a riparian grant

2006-07-20 Thread wernerapnj
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -somewhere there was a once some proposals to develop the marine grill site. At some point in time, the DEP and or the city denied the proposal. I'll think about it. Maybe it wound up in the shredder. The project was

[AsburyPark] Re: validity of the city's claim regarding a riparian grant

2006-07-20 Thread wernerapnj
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: from Peter lucia's amzing ap site: http://homepage.mac.com/peterlucia/noweverthen/asbury/ap2fold/ap2.31.html the old triangle and marine grill. The Triangle is clearly visible in the second image. What most people do not