Re: [AsburyPark] What Do We Do After All of Our Low Income Work Force is Thrown Out of Asbury ?

2006-07-23 Thread Chris
Don't fool yourself too much here. What you're saying is true of NJ in general re: flight and how hard it is to just get by. However, my memories of Asbury Park are those where one couldn't park one's car for four hours without the window being smashed in by a crackhead. I had my own car window

Re: [AsburyPark] Liquor License For Sale

2006-07-23 Thread Allan Peterson
interesting. didn't the HoJo license sell to fishman for only 250,000wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Interesting use of the internet, Asbury Park for sale !Check out ebay item number 280008381021Werner How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messenger’s low PC-to-Phone call rates.

Re: [AsburyPark] Liquor License For Sale

2006-07-23 Thread traderdube
This is Leaonard trying to recoup his losses after becoming yet another American victim of the legal Rico scheme called Eminent Domain. I sure hope he gets his money, he earned it, deserves it, and, quite possibly needs it. Allan Peterson wrote: interesting. didn't the HoJo license sell to

[AsburyPark] Behind The Eight Ball

2006-07-23 Thread traderdube
The Asbury Yahoo group has finally, after 24 or so months, woken and become what it set out to be, a place where anyone can come and express their opinions about AP and kick the can to see what's happening inside it. That is a very good thing. This homeless, save the poor people discussion has

Re: [AsburyPark] What Do We Do After All of Our Low Income Work Force is Thrown Out of Asbury ?

2006-07-23 Thread Lighty
Title: Re: [AsburyPark] What Do We Do After All of Our Low Income Work Force is Thrown Out of Asbury ? If you never saw Asbury in it's 'prime', go take a drive through Camden or Trenton, they are both in their public housing, subsidized program glory still. Better yet, leave your windows

[AsburyPark] Re: What Do We Do After All of Our Low Income Work Force is Thrown Out of Asbury

2006-07-23 Thread Steve
Chris, It's probably a Total waste of time to try and convince a Conservative Republican of anything, because part of conservatism is that someone who is will NOT change their mind no matter HOW much evidence you give them! The only thing that I can tell you is that I've been in Asbury Park

[AsburyPark] Re: What Do We Do After All of Our Low Income Work Force is Thrown Out of Asbury

2006-07-23 Thread Steve
You're right, Lighty! The Republicans can't win anything on FAIR Ground in NJ, so they resort to CHEAP Shots! No, Whitman, Kean or any other Governor of ANY Party hasn't lived in Trenton for decades, if ever! It's actually the SAME with Chris, as a Matter of Fact! He's calling shots about

[AsburyPark] Re: AsburySteve vs. Stand Up for Asbury

2006-07-23 Thread Steve
Mario, I'm not interested in "Red States", but the City of Asbury Park! If you're a Right Wing Tunnel Vision Person NOT willing to Change, or admit you even MIGHT be wrong, then YES, asking you to be Reasonable WOULD turn you Off! I'm mostly concerned with People being Humane, which is

[AsburyPark] Re: AsburySteve vs. Stand Up for Asbury

2006-07-23 Thread Steve
Hi Kevin, What you wrote certainly was benign and true, but, could you enlighten me as to what connection it has with me caring about the Poor People and Homeless in Asbury Park being degraded and punished? Thanks, Steve --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am

[AsburyPark] Re: Stand Up For Asbury, Meeting!

2006-07-23 Thread Steve
Hi Tom, Thanks for replying! I'll begin with your Stalin and Hitler references. They were both Powerful men who got drunk with Power, and at least Hitler was tremendously unbalanced. But my analogy was to point out that the same method is being used by Asbury Partners here in the City to

[AsburyPark] Re: A Liberal's Liberal On Rent Control

2006-07-23 Thread Steve
Mario, First off, San Francisco is NO comparison to Asbury Park! It's been a beautiful City for years! I've been there several times, and I lived 1 hour south of San Fran for 2 years! But ANY Urban City needs some form of Rent Control, because people who work in cities should have an option

[AsburyPark] Re: A Liberal's Liberal On Rent Control

2006-07-23 Thread Steve
Mario, By the way, you helped to PROVE that Rent Control's successful with that Article from the NY Times! San Francisco is one of about 30 Major US Cities which have flourished while HAVING Rent Control for decades, while Detroit is one example of a City that does NOT have it, and is NOT

[AsburyPark] Re: Family Values!

2006-07-23 Thread Steve
Hi Tom, I tremendously appreciate your love of Peace! I love Peace , too! I visited the Friends of Peace Pilgrim in 1992, when they were still in Hemet, CA. In fact, if you do not have Peace Pilgrim's Book, you should call them at (530) 620-0333 and get a Book and Maybe some Videos about

[AsburyPark] Re: AsburySteve vs. Stand Up for Asbury

2006-07-23 Thread noblarneyzone
Hi Steve; If what I said publicly in the forum, was taken personally - you read into it too deeply. Kevin Brown --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Kevin, What you wrote certainly was benign and true, but, could you enlighten me as to what connection it

[AsburyPark] Re: Behind The Eight Ball

2006-07-23 Thread Steve
TraderDube, First of all, why is it that People on here are too cowardly to even sign what they write with at least a first name, so that one can feel like they're writing back to a Human Being? But Dube, since you don't know me, it's ridiculous to assume that " I can tell you that the

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: AsburySteve vs. Stand Up for Asbury

2006-07-23 Thread MarioAPNJ
AsburySteve, In reference to your comments: "If you're a Right Wing Tunnel Vision Person NOT willing to Change, or admit you even MIGHT be wrong, then YES, asking you to be Reasonable WOULD turn you Off!" Did you even bother to read my post "A Liberal's Liberal On Rent Control"

[AsburyPark] Re: Liquor License For Sale

2006-07-23 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Interesting use of the internet, Asbury Park for sale ! Check out ebay item number 280008381021 Werner That might be leonard of anybody's Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- See

[AsburyPark] Re: validity of the city's claim regarding a riparian grant

2006-07-23 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dan, It appears that you are making the same error that was was made by the Council and others when the Carabetta bankruptcy was settled. That is, using the wrong plan. The 1984 Plan is irrelevent as it was

[AsburyPark] Re: More dumping in/on Asbury Park...

2006-07-23 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here, here!!! This would be great since with the invention of cellpones and NexTels, lookout can quickly chirp their partners-in- crime to stop before a cop even gets in eyesight. PuertoRico has the sound of el coqui, Bermuda

[AsburyPark] Re: A Liberal's Liberal On Rent Control

2006-07-23 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Rent Control: from the most important liberal political columnist in America. (See below.) I have over 26 years experience in NYC real estate. Rent regulations has for years limited the amount of rental residential

[AsburyPark] Re: validity of the city's claim regarding a riparian grant

2006-07-23 Thread wernerapnj
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No to the 1991 plan, I can't find it. You said in your post the original plan. Since 1984 was superceded by 1987, and the latter by 1991, the original is 1984, or at least that is what one would reasonably assume by that

[AsburyPark] AffordableHousing for those displaced by gentrification

2006-07-23 Thread dfsavgny
NYT on topic. http://tinyurl.com/ochze There are solutions for mitigation. Johnson should stop his bickering and let Keady and affordable housing committee proceed. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- See what's inside the new Yahoo! Groups email.

[AsburyPark] Re: validity of the city's claim regarding a riparian grant

2006-07-23 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Right you are, I tend to think in present terms regarding the plan. The plan we have = current plan...The original plan = 1991 plan. I continue to believe the current plan was not arrived at legally. Werner Well

[AsburyPark] Re: Greetings from Asbury Park on NJN

2006-07-23 Thread Sharon Boone
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did anybody watch Greetings from Asbury Park on NJN last night? If so, i'm wondering what people thought about it. I thought it was great, seeing Asbury Park from a Black perspective and having frequented these places and

[AsburyPark] Flexibility in Eminent Domain and AffordableHousing

2006-07-23 Thread dfsavgny
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[AsburyPark] Re: Greetings from Asbury Park on NJN

2006-07-23 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Sharon Boone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge hinge98@ wrote: Did anybody watch Greetings from Asbury Park on NJN last night? If so, i'm wondering what people thought about it. I thought it was great, seeing Asbury

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: What Do We Do After All of Our Low Income Work Force is Thrown Out of Asbury

2006-07-23 Thread traderdube
your such an ass, rents aren't to high, customers are afraid to come to asbury because of the criminal element controlling the streets, many of whom are the homeless Steve wrote: Chris, It's probably a Total waste of time to try and convince a Conservative Republican of anything,