[AsburyPark] Re: Inertia...

2007-03-23 Thread wernerapnj
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, jerseyjohn99 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... Then we can spend the next 6 years arguing about how YOU are going to save the city, and how YOU will bring badly needed receivables, err ratables, to the city, and how all of us will become filthy rich because of

[AsburyPark] Re: The Golddigger - R.I.P.

2007-03-23 Thread wernerapnj
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: tick tock goes the pony clock poof == Albion Hotel - RIP Bradley Motel - RIP Hetrick Motel - RIP Deal Lake Motel - RIP Orbit Motel - RIP Palace amusements - RIP

[AsburyPark] RE: Tick Tock Goes the Pony Clock

2007-03-23 Thread rook782
I don't feel that Raspberry Partners will ever be able to destroy The Pony. If they tried, it would probably cause civil unrest. Even though we know of other venues in Asbury Park that are just as or are more important to Springstein early years, the legend of The Pony will rock on.

[AsburyPark] Re: Werner, could you suggest manufacturers of all wood double hung windows

2007-03-23 Thread wernerapnj
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, rook782 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Werner, I have a friend who has a two hundred year old house. ...can you recommend manufacturers and I'll research from there. Thank you for your time, I always appreciate your take on things.

[AsburyPark] Re: Level the Pavillions, Start Over, Build Fewer and Open Up the Views from O

2007-03-23 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, charlie leonard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the hojo renovation is moving pretty fast. they started hanging drywall today. no idea whats going on though. they appeared to have put up a wall blocking off the boardwalk entrance. yet they installed new doors

[AsburyPark] Re: Inertia...

2007-03-23 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On a related note - At last Wednesdays Council Meeting the City budget was a topic of discussion since they are again bonding for over $1M. Asbury Partners was hammered for lack of performance. Specifically - the

[AsburyPark] Re: Inertia...

2007-03-23 Thread wernerapnj
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hammered by the city? Nice. I brought this up nearly 3 months ago and it was disputed by the city but they said they would check into it. I have been after Terry repeatedly for the information which is still shortly

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Stand Up For Asbury!

2007-03-23 Thread Allan Peterson
I disagree I was left with the shelter was housing a person who was wanted for murder and the police believed that the shelter needed to screen the people. After hearing this, I can not understand why some support the mission for Asbury. - Original Message From: Kerri Martin

[AsburyPark] Re: Inertia...

2007-03-23 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsavgny@ wrote: Hammered by the city? Nice. I brought this up nearly 3 months ago and it was disputed by the city but they said they would check into it. I have been

[AsburyPark] NJ School Districts: Tools for Discussing and Comparing

2007-03-23 Thread MarioAPNJ
A tool for citizens to use now to guide discussions about school spending during the local school budget development process. The huge range of district spending, from as much as $33, 805 per student; Abbot districts; anticipated new school funding formula, et al: _Wide Range of

[AsburyPark] Re: Inertia...

2007-03-23 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, jerseyjohn99 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Buy hold More like set up a line of credit while you still have equity on paper appraisers who don't notice the for sale signs. As Menendez said today, We have tsunami of foreclosures on the horizon. I

[AsburyPark] Fighting Blight in Face of Foreclosures

2007-03-23 Thread MarioAPNJ
March 23, 2007 _Foreclosures Force Suburbs to Fight Blight - New York Times_ (http://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/23/us/23vacant.html?pagewanted=all) Highlights from the above link: In a sign of the spreading mortgage foreclosures, cities, are spending millions of dollars to maintain vacant

[AsburyPark] Re: Inertia...

2007-03-23 Thread oakdorf
JJ, your're the best. But in Amboy's world, they didn't take the hit from Dwek, a clever trust was set up to handle non-performing loans. Think enron. But we had this discussion a couple years back when you killed me for saying that these 2 banks (valley and Amboy) were both making very

[AsburyPark] Re: Level the Pavillions, Start Over, Build Fewer and Open Up the Views from O

2007-03-23 Thread Hinge
I sincerely hope that the work being done on HoJo's is more then the typical quick fix patch job that the boardwalk has become known for. Last week after that storm, I noticed that lot's of water had leaked into the building. I don't want to be negative, but I can't imagine that everything

[AsburyPark] Re: Inertia...

2007-03-23 Thread oakdorf
How about automatic valuations? That's what happened in monmouth county and elsewhere. Using a comp sale WITHOUT taking reality into account is the problem. That and the banks all hungry. All the banks jsut sell off the loans - except the commerical stuff up to $x. The local lenders,

[AsburyPark] Re: Fighting Blight in Face of Foreclosures

2007-03-23 Thread oakdorf
And in one high profile case in Monmouth County, one can say some officials had no clue as to the real state of the real estate market and the fact that not everyone wants to pay high prices. Soemthing called reality check. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to:

Re: [AsburyPark] NJ School Districts: Tools for Discussing and Comparing

2007-03-23 Thread MarioAPNJ
The most surprising figure to me was the Percent Funded Locally. For Asbury Park, it's 7%, the fourth lowest in the state among similar districts (K-8). Original Message Subj: [AsburyPark] NJ School Districts: Tools for Discussing and Comparing Date: 3/23/2007

[AsburyPark] Re: NJ School Districts: Tools for Discussing and Comparing

2007-03-23 Thread oakdorf
The most surprising figure to me was the Percent Funded Locally. For Asbury Park, it's 7%, the fourth lowest in the state among similar districts (K-8). WHY? Why is that surprising. I've been screaming about that for years on this board alone. ASBURY taxpayers DO NOT, HAVE NOT

[AsburyPark] Re: NJ School Districts: Tools for Discussing and Comparing

2007-03-23 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: WHY? Why is that surprising. I've been screaming about that for years on this board alone. ASBURY taxpayers DO NOT, HAVE NOT financially supported the schools. And the new condo owners, if there ever are any

[AsburyPark] Wesley Grove.

2007-03-23 Thread oakdorf
Hey - it's been around 2 weeks. Any Co's issued? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to:

[AsburyPark] Correcting Mr. Vail's comments

2007-03-23 Thread James Keady
Ladies and Gentlemen: I am writing to correct for the record statements recently posted by Mr. Paul Vail regarding the March 20, 2007 Zoning Board Meeting. Mr. Vail wrote: Sadly, Councilman Keady once again was present at this zoning board hearing against the advice of the city attorney.

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: The Golddigger - R.I.P.

2007-03-23 Thread charlie leonard
tick tock goes the pony clock poof ha!! no way. even asbury parnters are not that stupid. thats one thing good they have going for them, and they are aware of it im sure. - Need Mail bonding? Go to the Yahoo! Mail QA for great tips from Yahoo!

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: NJ School Districts: Tools for Discussing and Comparing

2007-03-23 Thread wait_foru
So the question is who is spending the other 93% of taxes and what is to show for it? oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The most surprising figure to me was the Percent Funded Locally. For Asbury Park, it's 7%, the fourth lowest in the state among similar districts (K-8). WHY?

[AsburyPark] Re: The Golddigger - R.I.P.

2007-03-23 Thread Hinge
I hope you are right. Personally, i'm worried. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, charlie leonard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: tick tock goes the pony clock poof ha!! no way. even asbury parnters are not that stupid. thats one thing good they have going for them, and they are

[AsburyPark] Re: The Golddigger - R.I.P.

2007-03-23 Thread oakdorf
yea, it brings cash in. Build a nex box and decorate it. Have good music and hang the sign up. People will come. There was always talk about franchising the name - aka Hard Rock Cafe. The hamburgers at an original Mcdonalds taste the same as those going through a drive through. And I gave up

[AsburyPark] Re: NJ School Districts: Tools for Discussing and Comparing

2007-03-23 Thread oakdorf
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wait_foru [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So the question is who is spending the other 93% of taxes and what is to show for it? Your school district is spending 100%. So for example, you get: $100 million to spend. - City landowners (those that are non-exempt)

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: The Golddigger - R.I.P.

2007-03-23 Thread Gary Wien
On Mar 23, 2007, at 3:04 PM, oakdorf wrote: yea, it brings cash in. Build a nex box and decorate it. Have good music and hang the sign up. People will come. They've had design plans for the new Pony in the casino for years haven't they? Personally, I wish they would just build a

[AsburyPark] Re: The Golddigger - R.I.P.

2007-03-23 Thread Hinge
Too bad that AP developers aren't hipper. Asbury already has a strong musical legacy. If the example of Austin TX was looked at, and what a huge event SXSW has become, AP could adopt that and really capitalize on the potential of music tourism. Just ask Scott at The Saint. He just got back from

[AsburyPark] Re: The Golddigger - R.I.P.

2007-03-23 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Too bad that AP developers aren't hipper. Too bad they aren't developers. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual

[AsburyPark] Re: The Golddigger - R.I.P.

2007-03-23 Thread Hinge
Touche --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge hinge98@ wrote: Too bad that AP developers aren't hipper. Too bad they aren't developers. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to:

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: NJ School Districts: Tools for Discussing and Comparing

2007-03-23 Thread wait_foru
I am not sure if i follow you correctlyWhere are you getting the jump from 2K to 5K??? IF my tax bill was $5000. $350(7%) goes to the schoolso that leave about $4600 left over for like you said city, state etc.my question is how much goes to the city and what is being done

[AsburyPark] Re: Level the Pavillions, Start Over, Build Fewer and Open Up the Views from O

2007-03-23 Thread asburyparkpedaler
...or a permit? The only one posted is for demolition --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, charlie leonard oceanchuck@ wrote: the hojo renovation is moving pretty fast. they started hanging drywall today. no idea

[AsburyPark] Re: Wesley Grove.

2007-03-23 Thread asburyparkpedaler
Went by yesterday, looks no different on the townhouse side. I saw a guy sweeping up little piles of dust in the gutter!!! Wonder what they'll say if you call back and inquire. Let me guess, closings in two weeks. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey -

[AsburyPark] Re: The Golddigger - R.I.P.

2007-03-23 Thread asburyparkpedaler
I ask you this. Have you ever dealt with them? Have you ever spoken directly with ANYONE who has? Anyone on that long list of disgruntled former associates? Nothing they do should surprise anyone. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, charlie leonard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: tick tock goes the

[AsburyPark] Re: NJ School Districts: Tools for Discussing and Comparing

2007-03-23 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wait_foru [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am not sure if i follow you correctlyWhere are you getting the jump from 2K to 5K??? IF my tax bill was $5000. $350(7%) goes to the schoolso that leave about $4600 left over for like you said city, state

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: NJ School Districts: Tools for Discussing and Comparing

2007-03-23 Thread MarioAPNJ
Dan, Re: your comment: I don't think that's how it works. It is not like there is $1 divided amoong the schools, the city and the county. The school tax is independent. If the state funding of the schools is less the total tax goes up. The city's share is independent and not affected by

[AsburyPark] Re: Correcting Mr. Vail's comments

2007-03-23 Thread Kevin Brown
Jim - don't worry about man, you are counted among the sheep, they are goats. The Sheep and the Goats 31When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, he will sit on his throne in heavenly glory. 32All the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate the

[AsburyPark] Re: NJ School Districts: Tools for Discussing and Comparing

2007-03-23 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm trying to understand all this myself now. I found the breakdown for AP's taxes here: County, School, Municipal, each in turn broken down further. _http://tax.co.monmouth.nj.us/pdf/Tr06.pdf_

[AsburyPark] Stand Up For Asbury Is Solely a Gay agenda

2007-03-23 Thread jerseykev
Let me be the one to say it out loud. The only real reason there is a conflict over This Mission in Asbury Park is because the spiritual leaders of this organization have gone on the record that homosexuality is a sex addiction. So, now let me go on the record. In the light of having 50

[AsburyPark] Re: Stand Up For Asbury Is Solely a Gay agenda

2007-03-23 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Let me be the one to say it out loud. The only real reason there is a conflict over This Mission in Asbury Park is because the spiritual leaders of this organization have gone on the record that homosexuality is a sex

[AsburyPark] APP Story - Public Salaries

2007-03-23 Thread dfsavgny
They should include all municipal salaries as well. Read the comments to this story. Coming Sunday/Monday: Police, paid firefighters, Rutgers salaries to be posted Launch of new databases on www.app.com/DataUniverse Posted by the Asbury Park Press on 03/23/07 PRESS STAFF REPORT Post Comment

[AsburyPark] Re: Stand Up For Asbury Is Solely a Gay agenda

2007-03-23 Thread mima4k
You are entitled to your opinion, but it is nothing but blarney. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Let me be the one to say it out loud. The only real reason there is a conflict over This Mission in Asbury Park is because the spiritual leaders of this

Re: [AsburyPark] Stand Up For Asbury Is Solely a Gay agenda

2007-03-23 Thread MarioAPNJ
In reference to jerseykev's comment: God Bless America This country has been blessed... with forefathers wise enough to establish a Democratic Republic, complete with safeguards to ward off theocrats like those in Iran, Iraq and Saudi Arabia who claim to know God's will,

[AsburyPark] Re: Stand Up For Asbury Is Solely a Gay agenda

2007-03-23 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This country has been blessed... with forefathers wise enough to establish a Democratic Republic, complete with safeguards to ward off theocrats like those in Iran, Iraq and Saudi Arabia who claim to know God's will,

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Stand Up For Asbury Is Solely a Gay agenda

2007-03-23 Thread MarioAPNJ
Dan Re your comment: You forgot Rome and other European capitals through nearly two millenia. Although I am sure our founding fathers were well versed when it came to papists. Didn't forget. Was trying to stay contemporary for the AD crowd. Add pre WWII Japan to your list.

[AsburyPark] Re: Stand Up For Asbury Is Solely a Gay agenda

2007-03-23 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Didn't forget. Was trying to stay contemporary for the AD crowd. Add pre WWII Japan to your list. Point taken. I am no agnostic or aetheist, I just like my religion and government like my scotch - neat. Yahoo! Groups

[AsburyPark] Re: Inertia...

2007-03-23 Thread jerseyjohn99
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On a related note - At last Wednesdays Council Meeting the City budget was a topic of discussion since they are again bonding for over $1M. Asbury Partners was hammered for lack of performance. Specifically - the

[AsburyPark] Re: Inertia...

2007-03-23 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, jerseyjohn99 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: By the way, how much did the city wind up getting from the Triangle property? (As mentioned before, I haven't really been following) Well JJ, the answer is - nothing as of yet. Despite my battle for over two years