[AsburyPark] Re: Who the heck is Henry C. Winsor?

2007-06-13 Thread wernerapnj
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Thanks Werner. I knew you knew that. I just liked the quote. = The possibilities of the city are very great, and the next twenty[five years will show a wonderful change in

[AsburyPark] Tenbroeck fountain and the Asbury Historical Society

2007-06-13 Thread Hinge
As another day goes by i'm wondering why I even care that the fountain has been vandalized. A phone call to the PD about it resulted in them sounding like they don't even care. Emails to Jim Keady etc were not returned. Nobody even had a comment on here about it. The Asbury Historical Society

[AsburyPark] Public perception about AP

2007-06-13 Thread Hinge
Last night I was reading the many comments posted on the APP website relating to the article about MM. The overall feeling I get, besides the fact that people out there are still afraid of AP, is that public opinion is that AP is making a huge mistake by putting it's desire to redevelop over

[AsburyPark] Re: Tenbroeck fountain and the Asbury Historical Society

2007-06-13 Thread oakdorf
I'll donate some Hostas in the fall. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join

[AsburyPark] Re: Tenbroeck fountain and the Asbury Historical Society

2007-06-13 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As another day goes by i'm wondering why I even care that the fountain has been vandalized. A phone call to the PD about it resulted in them sounding like they don't even care. Emails to Jim Keady etc were not returned. Nobody

[AsburyPark] Re: Eliminate Springwood Ave ....

2007-06-13 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't want to wipe out history, but how about considering just eliminateing springwood ave and creating a village with affordable housing and small shops for the west side. Take the general concept of Pier Village -

[AsburyPark] Madison Marquette Answers to Your Questions

2007-06-13 Thread justifiedright
From Randy Bergmann's Blog: Answers to Madison Marquette questions, Part 1 The Asbury Park Press editorial board had a two-hour meeting Monday with the redevelopment partners of the Asbury Park oceanfront - Gary Mottola of Madison Marquette, Hugh Lamle of M.D. Sass and Larry Fishman of

[AsburyPark] Re: Eliminate Springwood Ave ....

2007-06-13 Thread oakdorf
Dave, I heard Rite-Aid bought out Eckerd in the NE. Do they keep both on Main or close the RA in AP? I know the AP buidling and property is owned by an investor. The property is leased, not corp owned. The only way they will keep both is for competition. If I had my choice of

[AsburyPark] Re: Madison Marquette Answers to Your Questions

2007-06-13 Thread oakdorf
Thanks T Not much more other then wait and see. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to:

[AsburyPark] Re: Tenbroeck fountain and the Asbury Historical Society

2007-06-13 Thread Hinge
Perhaps there was something about this in the news, but if there was it must be hidden pretty well because I certainly didn't see it. Maybe you are talking about the vandalism of the new sprinkler system. And what you are saying about creating an environment where something like this will not be

Re: [AsburyPark] Madison Marquette Answers to Your Questions

2007-06-13 Thread charlie
I don't like the idea of not having a carousel inside the carousel building. Maybe they will change their minds later on, although im doubtfull. I'm glad he didn't like the current Ocean ave. layout either. He also said major changes to the plan would take place, soon? Like what? I

[AsburyPark] Re: Madison Marquette Answers to Your Questions

2007-06-13 Thread oakdorf
I find myself having to pull the car over to stay in the lane! Get an alignment or put air in your tires. ON the Carosouel the BEST PR they could ever do would be to put the horses back in the Casino. That's worth a ton in positive PR and in exchange for changes in the plan (where they get

[AsburyPark] Re: Madison Marquette Answers to Your Questions

2007-06-13 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, charlie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't like the idea of not having a carousel inside the carousel building. There is not much thought that needs to go into what you should put in a building specifically designed for a carousel. While he MAY think that there

Re: [AsburyPark] Madison Marquette Answers to Your Questions

2007-06-13 Thread charlie
I wonder if anyone asked about the Lake ave. close off? It wasn't posted, but this was only part one? - Choose the right car based on your needs. Check out Yahoo! Autos new Car Finder tool.

[AsburyPark] Re: Madison Marquette Answers to Your Questions

2007-06-13 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I find myself having to pull the car over to stay in the lane! Get an alignment or put air in your tires. ON the Carosouel the BEST PR they could ever do would be to put the horses back in the Casino. That's worth a

[AsburyPark] Re: Madison Marquette Answers to Your Questions

2007-06-13 Thread oakdorf
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The thought of a 20 story hotel sounds ridiculous to me. None of the redevelopment plans include anything that would actually Parking, retail, hotel and condos on top = $ Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on

[AsburyPark] Re: Public perception about AP

2007-06-13 Thread Hinge
I think part of the problem is that we here in AP have our own perception of living in the city. For me, it's not bad at all. I love living in AP. And as a resident, i'm quite happy to be hopeful about the future and proud to be part of the community. The same is simply not true for people from

[AsburyPark] Re: Madison Marquette Answers to Your Questions

2007-06-13 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, charlie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wonder if anyone asked about the Lake ave. close off? It wasn't posted, but this was only part one? Why are you fixated on that? I was the one that said MM wanted it reopened. That's what I was told, if it's changed or

[AsburyPark] Re: Madison Marquette Answers to Your Questions

2007-06-13 Thread Hinge
Yeah, but who is going to stay in this 20 story hotel? And is there really ever going to be enough demand for that many more hotel rooms? Retail doesn't create that kind of demand. And observation tower won't create that kind of demand. And what about the Berkley Carteret. It's already here. Does

[AsburyPark] Re: Madison Marquette Answers to Your Questions

2007-06-13 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, but who is going to stay in this 20 story hotel? And is there really ever going to be enough demand for that many more hotel rooms? Retail doesn't create that kind of demand. And observation tower won't create that kind

[AsburyPark] Re: Madison Marquette Answers to Your Questions

2007-06-13 Thread Hinge
Actually, I think that it's more important to look at how AP is viewed by the masses who don't live in the city. Those are the people we are trying to attract... --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge hinge98@ wrote:

[AsburyPark] Garden of Joy

2007-06-13 Thread bailyquinn
Hey All, I wanted to mention that Pat Betty, an Ocean Grove resident, has been working on getting a Community Garden going and involving the children of Asbury Park. She is working with the Hope Academy Charter School (and soon with the Westside Community Center) on her project, called

[AsburyPark] Re: Garden of Joy

2007-06-13 Thread Hinge
Great Idea! I really look forward to seeing this in action! Jack --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, bailyquinn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey All, I wanted to mention that Pat Betty, an Ocean Grove resident, has been working on getting a Community Garden going and involving the children

[AsburyPark] Re: Garden of Joy

2007-06-13 Thread justifiedright
Virago = good word! Amy if I can not go is there an address to send a donation? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, bailyquinn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey All, I wanted to mention that Pat Betty, an Ocean Grove resident, has been working on getting a Community Garden going and

[AsburyPark] Re: Garden of Joy

2007-06-13 Thread wernerapnj
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Virago = good word! == Actually: Virago = a domineering, violent or bad tempered woman Werner Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to:

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Public perception about AP

2007-06-13 Thread MarioAPNJ
In a message dated 6/13/2007 1:57:55 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: make Madison do some more PR PR can make great dents in perceptions. Two years ago, I remember enjoying the new influx of strollers to the bw; but wondered why those structures which still looked

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Eliminate Springwood Ave ....

2007-06-13 Thread MarioAPNJ
In a message dated 6/13/2007 2:18:20 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Do they keep both on Main or close the RA in AP? Tear that ugly sucker down! How'd that box architecture ever get past zoning board? Mario Sunset Avenue _Click here: AsburyParkGLH :

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Tenbroeck fountain and the Asbury Historical Society

2007-06-13 Thread MarioAPNJ
In a message dated 6/13/2007 2:46:40 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: start sentencing people to public service details like cleaning up areas and scrubbing off graffiti. 5 stars for that one!

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Madison Marquette Answers to Your Questions

2007-06-13 Thread MarioAPNJ
In a message dated 6/13/2007 2:56:13 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ON the Carosouel the BEST PR they could ever do would be to put the horses back in the Casino. Ties for 5 Stars!

[AsburyPark] Re: Garden of Joy

2007-06-13 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj wernerapnj@ wrote: Actually: Virago = a domineering, violent or bad tempered woman Werner I knew that. Like I said - good word! Sort of like the spanking

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Madison Marquette Answers to Your Questions

2007-06-13 Thread charlie
Why are you fixated on that? I was the one that said MM wanted it reopened. That's what I was told, if it's changed or misinformation than so be it. Fixated on it? Hmm, all right. Whatever information you were told, you were heart set on it being true.

[AsburyPark] Re: Madison Marquette Answers to Your Questions

2007-06-13 Thread wernerapnj
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, charlie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm starting to not understand some of the comments on this board. No matter what is said, its picked apart?? Arn't hotels part of the future that some on this list want? The whole tourist, people, visiting on

[AsburyPark] Re: Madison Marquette Answers to Your Questions

2007-06-13 Thread wernerapnj
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is not much thought that needs to go into what you should put in a building specifically designed for a carousel. While he MAY think that there are more profitable uses for the space, he should think how many people

[AsburyPark] Re: Madison Marquette Answers to Your Questions

2007-06-13 Thread oakdorf
the horses back in the casino is also the CHEAPEST PR one could ask for. Freehold Mall has the 2 story one right i the food court. How many have made the haul there just to spin around, then blow some more $ in the food court? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to:

[AsburyPark] Hershey Park's :Boardwalk

2007-06-13 Thread oakdorf
For 2007, Hershey Park launches BOARDWALK entertainment zone, a tribute to the East Coast Boardwalks. novel concept. Among the cornfields, those that would drive out to the shore bring more attractions inland. Maybe someday AP will have a Godiva shop at the ESP. It's operations close by (with

[AsburyPark] Re: Madison Marquette Answers to Your Questions

2007-06-13 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, charlie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why are you fixated on that? I was the one that said MM wanted it reopened. That's what I was told, if it's changed or misinformation than so be it. Fixated on it? Hmm, all right. Whatever information you were

[AsburyPark] Re: Madison Marquette Answers to Your Questions

2007-06-13 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What's your point about the Heating Plant? Werner I used the correct lexicon (not power plant). Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your

[AsburyPark] Re: Madison Marquette Answers to Your Questions

2007-06-13 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the horses back in the casino is also the CHEAPEST PR one could ask for. Freehold Mall has the 2 story one right i the food court. How many have made the haul there just to spin around, then blow some more $ in the food

[AsburyPark] Re: Madison Marquette Answers to Your Questions

2007-06-13 Thread wernerapnj
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj wernerapnj@ wrote: What's your point about the Heating Plant? Werner I used the correct lexicon (not power plant).

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Madison Marquette Answers to Your Questions

2007-06-13 Thread charlie
Charlie you are not considering the Big Picture. For a Hotel to function there must attractions that would require overnight stays. The current plan is a RESIDENTIAL USE based plan not a destination tourism plan. It would not be prudent to construct a Hotel with no market for its use. We already

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Madison Marquette Answers to Your Questions

2007-06-13 Thread charlie
the horses back in the casino is also the CHEAPEST PR one could ask for. From other posts, you know i'd like seeing the carousel back in the building. It would be good marketing, but what is it marketing? I don't think thats the image they want to attrack to that buildnig, or area

[AsburyPark] Re: Garden of Joy

2007-06-13 Thread justifiedright
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sort of like the spanking Johnna gave you recently ;) Exactly like that! (Still can't sit) Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email

[AsburyPark] Re: Madison Marquette Answers to Your Questions

2007-06-13 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, charlie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's true. However, the new BCH owners must have some high hopes in mind. Why else would they buy a hotel in such an area, if there were no need for it? I don't think they'd be willing to put all that money into

[AsburyPark] The Keady Report - New Blog Posts

2007-06-13 Thread James Keady
Dear Friends of Asbury Park: There are two new posts at www.keadyreport.blogspot.com http://www.keadyreport.blogspot.com/ . 1. Should Asbury Park Use Video Cameras in High Crime Areas? 2. Springwood Avenue Redevelopment Plan - Plan Review I encourage you to visit and to

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Madison Marquette Answers to Your Questions

2007-06-13 Thread MarioAPNJ
In a message dated 6/13/2007 6:38:14 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: How do the hotels on highway 35 stay open? Just becasue a hotel is on the shore in AP, doesn't mean the people staying have to stay within the square mile of AP!! Good point. I'm

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Madison Marquette Answers to Your Questions

2007-06-13 Thread MarioAPNJ
In a message dated 6/13/2007 6:42:30 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It would be good marketing, but what is it marketing? Whatever it is it's what draws crowds year after year to Ocean Township's Italian Festival, even though they have the same ol' corny stuff

[AsburyPark] Public Video Surveillance: Is It An Effective Crime Prevention Tool?

2007-06-13 Thread MarioAPNJ
Based on info from California Research, I posted yes to the surveillance question on Councilman Keady's site. _Click here: Public Video Surveillance: Is It An Effective Crime Prevention Tool?_ (http://www.library.ca.gov/CRB/97/05/)

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Madison Marquette Answers to Your Questions

2007-06-13 Thread charlie
Right, thats along the lines of what i was saying. Hotels in general stay in business becasue people go places and sometimes need places to stay. Wouldnt you rather have them staying in AP then on highway 35? Although, i guess a hotel on 35 would most likely run cheaper then one

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Madison Marquette Answers to Your Questions

2007-06-13 Thread charlie
Whatever it is it's what draws crowds year after year to Ocean Township's Italian Festival, even though they have the same ol' corny stuff year after year. People don't seem to tire of it That's true. But you don't see people looking for a hotel in Ocean to be there for the fair do

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Madison Marquette Answers to Your Questions

2007-06-13 Thread MarioAPNJ
I'm agreeing with you. Point is that a carousel would be very appropriate again. IMO Casino location's better than between pavilions. Could be integrated with the proposed market. Just glad there seems to be excitement and energy again. In a message dated 6/13/2007 9:27:47

[AsburyPark] Hotels/motels and zeppoles

2007-06-13 Thread oakdorf
hotels/motels are also a place if someone may want to have their fling as well. A fling on Rt 35, or a fling on the Oceanfront? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email |

Re: [AsburyPark] Hotels/motels and zeppoles

2007-06-13 Thread MarioAPNJ
In a message dated 6/13/2007 10:39:56 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: hotels/motels are also a place if someone may want to have their fling as well. A fling on Rt 35, or a fling on the Oceanfront? Always preferred oceanfront here. But we need an all night

[AsburyPark] Why be Cynical about Faith-Based Groups?

2007-06-13 Thread Mario
Here's why. What happens when faith-based agencies aren't transparent about their finances or held accountable while still demanding to be tax-emempt. It's an old story. Click here: Federal Grant for a Medical Mission Goes Awry - New York Times

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Madison Marquette Answers to Your Questions

2007-06-13 Thread charlie
I'm agreeing with you. Point is that a carousel would be very appropriate again. IMO Casino location's better than between pavilions. Could be integrated with the proposed market. Just glad there seems to be excitement and energy again. I know what you're saying. The