[AsburyPark] Re: Abbott $

2008-01-25 Thread oakdorf
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, FleurDeLis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: time! Our kids be damned! This is just my read! Ask for the books to be opened and reports be sent to the taxpayers! It comes down to results. No one complains about paying as long as there are results. The costs

[AsburyPark] Re: Abbott $

2008-01-25 Thread FleurDeLis
This is a late response, but if only 7% of property taxes go to education, what's all the b*tchin about? Not you personally, whine and moan about the school system, here, most of whom have NO kids, attending school here! So $504.00 of your 7200, for instance, goes to a system, that with Abbott

[AsburyPark] Re: Abbott $

2008-01-21 Thread fancypaaantz
It makes me angry. All that money they are spending, not to mention my property taxes are $7200 for a tiny house, and the scores are horrible... And if I have kids in the relatively near future, I cannot send them to school here. So I would either pay super high property taxes plus private

[AsburyPark] Re: Abbott $

2008-01-21 Thread rook782
I wonder if the kids are aware of how much a year is spent on each of them? It would be an interesting survey a teacher could conduct with his or her class. Maybe the school district should spend a day showing them how much that money would buy in the real word, compare it to other schools,

[AsburyPark] Re: Abbott $

2008-01-21 Thread fancypaaantz
Hoboken was pretty bad too, until recently. I wonder what happened in Hoboken to finally turn things around in the school. Anyone know? As Hoboken is another historic city that went through gentrification, although never quite had the crime rate/poverty that AP has/had. The gentrification of

[AsburyPark] Re: Abbott $

2008-01-21 Thread oakdorf
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, fancypaaantz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: e. Jees, with the money they are spending, they could almost hire a teacher for every 2 kids! they do. That is supposed to work. Smaller class sizes etc etc, The highschool will have 550 kids if I heard correctly.

[AsburyPark] Re: Abbott $

2008-01-21 Thread oakdorf
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, fancypaaantz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hoboken was pretty bad too, until recently. I wonder what happened in Hoboken to finally turn things around in the school. Anyone know? As Ho? Or did something else happen? Yea - look across the harbor. someone

[AsburyPark] Re: Abbott $

2008-01-21 Thread fancypaaantz
Yes, clearly it is the proximity to the city that is the draw, while here it is proximity to the ocean. The question that I was asking was... What finally made the school system turn around and start putting up some decent #s. According to this article, Hoboken is still in the Abbott Program

[AsburyPark] Re: Abbott $

2008-01-21 Thread fancypaaantz
7% of our property taxes go to the schools, the rest is state money... But think about is, my house is less than 1200 feet.. I only pay slightly less in property taxes than my parents do for a 4 bdrm, 4 bath house in Bergen County (on 2 acres). In that district, 90 something % of the kids are

[AsburyPark] Re: Abbott $

2008-01-21 Thread oakdorf
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, fancypaaantz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 7% of our property taxes go to the schools, the rest is state money... That's the problem with the system: 88% of the costs are born by the town (like bergen and the rest of the non-abbotts Ap used to be only 3%.

[AsburyPark] Re: Abbott $

2008-01-21 Thread fancypaaantz
AP has zero tax base (minimal) Then they should stop with all the abatements? And maybe re-assess so that we are all paying our fair share? Take this house, for eg. It is comp to mine, sort of, same neighborhood.. And they pay $3000 less than I do. I have seen big houses that pay less. (BTW- I

[AsburyPark] Re: Abbott $

2008-01-20 Thread Jennifer
More statistical wonking - state funding by school district is available online at NJ Dept. of Education's website. Here's the link for Asbury Park http://www.state.nj.us/cgi- bin/education/stateaid/07/stateaid_cb2.pl. The total was $58,127,605 for 2006-07 and on the site it breaks down the

[AsburyPark] Re: Abbott $

2008-01-20 Thread justifiedright
You got my point exactly right, Oak. The district was naturally diversified by natural geograpghy for almost 100 years. Then government intervened and segregated it by race and socio- economic class. I will credit Randy Bergmann of the AP Press for giving the issue some coverage in editorial,

[AsburyPark] Re: Abbott $

2008-01-20 Thread oakdorf
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jennifer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: More statistical wonking - state funding by school district is available online at NJ Dept. of Education's website. Here's the link for Asbury Park http://www.state.nj.us/cgi- I don't want to go off on the abbott

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Abbott $

2008-01-20 Thread MarioAPNJ
In a message dated 1/20/2008 12:54:25 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: More statistical wonking - state funding by school district is available online at I like wonking. Wonks say what they know, not simply what they think. Thanks Jennifer **Start

[AsburyPark] Re: Abbott $

2008-01-20 Thread FleurDeLis
The amount they're spending is sinful, because it isn't being funneled down to the kids! Does the Administrators present the expenses at Board Meetings? Who decides how tax dollars are being spent and for what? If the test scores aren't measuring up, who is called on the carpet, for doing a

[AsburyPark] Re: ABBOTT, KING NEPTUNE, DRUGS,JUVI's and PASSOVER

2007-04-04 Thread oakdorf
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Re: [AsburyPark] Re: ABBOTT, KING NEPTUNE, DRUGS,JUVI's and PASSOVER

2007-04-04 Thread wait_foru
I have friends in Neptune as wellit was bought through a fundraiser from Construction companies and JSUMCits too bad our BOE couldn;t get us our new schools up before the money ran out, we could have gotten a big Blue Bishop !!! LOL oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[AsburyPark] Re: ABBOTT, KING NEPTUNE, DRUGS,JUVI's and PASSOVER

2007-04-04 Thread oakdorf
it was bought through a fundraiser from Construction companies and JSUMCits too bad our BOE couldn;t get us our new schools up before the money ran out, we could have gotten a big Blue Bishop !!! LOL A fundraiser. Can I make my deduction? Paid for by the companies that did the work

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: ABBOTT, KING NEPTUNE, DRUGS,JUVI's and PASSOVER

2007-04-04 Thread wait_foru
I'm pretty good at holding wrenches...LOL oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: it was bought through a fundraiser from Construction companies and JSUMCits too bad our BOE couldn;t get us our new schools up before the money ran out, we could have gotten a big Blue Bishop !!! LOL