thanks, be there around 11am
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gabrielle Obre gabrielleobre@
wrote:
that was snort worthy! funny
stop by my office and I'll fax it. someone's in by 9 am if I'm not.
leave either
---if you go back to 2007 buget excel spreadsheet, if it's accurate on
the city website, accumulated time was $1.6m 2007, now $4m?
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Awesome. But the budget as it looks now is pretty incomprehensible.
There must be a way to simplify it. Though maybe a first step is to
simply create a PDF of it. The city should have it in that form. I am
willing to put in some time to do data entry into a spreadsheet out of
which something
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gabrielle Obre
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
you throw as many insults as anyone.
No I don't. Ever. I take great pains not to personalize. I point
it out when others do.
making fun of the lights is a
perfect example. and I assume that is part of public
Nevermind. what are your thoughts on what I wrote about the budget?
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gabrielle Obre
gabrielleobre@ wrote:
you throw as many insults as anyone.
No I don't. Ever. I take great
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gabrielle Obre
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Nevermind. what are your thoughts on what I wrote about the budget?
Probable won't have much to say until we get a PDA of the budget.
It will lead to an interesting discussion about priorities instead of
platitudes.
Give me a break. You don't live in AP, and those ridiculous lights aren't
blaring into your
home at night when it's supposed to be dark. All of the homes that boarder the
boardwalk
area are lit up like daytime every single night, whether there is an event or
not. The lights
near the Casino
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
==
Typical Twisting issues to dilute the actual points.
The above statement is personalizing, because it is about me and a
motive you are concluding
Buy shades.
If you live near an airport you can't complain about the noise.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Give me a break. You don't live in AP, and those ridiculous lights
aren't blaring into your
home at night when it's supposed to be dark. All
I have a hard copy. Just got off the phone with someone at the finance
office. she was unaware if a PDF version exists and didn't seem too
interested in finding out. My scanner is not legal paper size. The
budget is 44 pages.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Go over to the UPS store near Clancy's Tavern and Fax it to me.
732-807-7294.
My system automatically turns it into a PDF. I'll then post it to
the Group.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gabrielle Obre
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have a hard copy. Just got off the phone with someone at
You are a hypocrite. Buy shades. What a jerk. And stop with your
personalizing crap.
When you say Buy shades it just shows what selfish, out of touch and
inconsiderate
person you really are.
Asbury Park isn't an airport. It's a seaside town thats more residential then
tourism
oriented. When
Look, it's another long winded attempt by you to justify another ludicrous
stance taken
by you.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer hinge98@ wrote:
You are a hypocrite. Buy shades. What a jerk. And stop
Posts like this one are a good example of why so many people have a love/hate
relationship with you. You are self-righteous, and feel the need to argue a
point, no
matter how wrong or ludicrous it is, right into the ground until you either
feel that the
people think you are right, or like in
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Look, it's another long winded attempt by you to justify another
ludicrous stance taken
by you.
More personalizing. Get back on topic Jack. AP is looking to be open
year round, so my airport analogy is fine.
Buy
No, your thinking is flawed. Ocean Grove residents need not have to deal with
our
overzealous lighting, and despite the hope that AP will be a year round
destination, it's
simply not the case, yet, and even when that happens, there is absolutely no
justfication
for blaring light at all hours
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You are a hypocrite. Buy shades. What a jerk. And stop with
your personalizing crap.
Jack you call me a jerk and say stop complaining about personalizing
in the same sentence.
Nice.
When you say Buy shades it just
that would cost me 30 bucks. does anyone have a fax machine? or can't
i just get this to you?
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Go over to the UPS store near Clancy's Tavern and Fax it to me.
732-807-7294.
My system automatically turns it into a
See if JK is down at City Hall. He can put it in the fax at the
City. Local call so it won't cost the City any money.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gabrielle Obre
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
that would cost me 30 bucks. does anyone have a fax machine? or
can't
i just get this to you?
No, you are moving on because you aren't going to win this one, at least not
with me.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Jack I'm moving on because you can't stop making conclusions about
me instead of the issue.
--- In
Just spoke with him, faxing would take forever, he is going to ask
Reidy to have a PDF created and posted on the city's website
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
See if JK is down at City Hall. He can put it in the fax at the
City. Local call so it
44 pages = forever?
How old is the City's fax machine?
Maybe the first budge item is to buy them a new one.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gabrielle Obre
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Just spoke with him, faxing would take forever, he is going to ask
Reidy to have a PDF created and posted
The budget should be in PDF on the site to begin with. I'll check
again on monday.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
44 pages = forever?
How old is the City's fax machine?
Maybe the first budge item is to buy them a new one.
--- In
Well if you find a free fax send it over and I'll have it up asap.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gabrielle Obre
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The budget should be in PDF on the site to begin with. I'll check
again on monday.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright
Besides the budget not being there as a PDF, the City website is incredibly out
of date, as
usual. The homepage still has news items from 4th of July. Hasn't anything
happened since
then?
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gabrielle Obre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The budget should be in PDF
I live in AP and I don't agree. All the lights have scared away the
hookers that use to walk up and down the street. I think people can
now see what they are getting, and are running away fast. (AP
hookers are not the best lookers.) I've also noticed a decrease in
used condoms when walking my
I disagree. It's not the lights that scared the prostitutes away, it's our PD
and other task
forces that did it. But there are still prostitutes on Kingsley. Lately, I've
noticed that one of
the longtime ones recently returned, and she's be going up and down Kingsley
every
single night this
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I disagree. It's not the lights that scared the prostitutes away,
it's our PD and other task
well my daughter told me a kid she graduated with was spotted on the
streets hooking wig and all. 18 years old.
Hopefully
hey maybe that's the answer to ap budget woes. legal prostitution.
what with the economy tanking there are surely some game chicks. just
the other day while discussing the spitzer saga a very respectable
looking guy said to me hey we all pay for it. not in my immediate
realm, but who am i to bash
Yeah, I could see it. A red light district just like in Amsterdam. Why fly to
Holland, or
Hamburg, when you can come to AP for all your adult needs.
But seriously, the hooker probably has diminished big time, and at the moment,
it's looks
like there may be a maximum of three of them
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gabrielle Obre
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
hey maybe that's the answer to ap budget woes. legal prostitution.
what with the economy tanking there are surely some game chicks. just
the other day while discussing the spitzer saga a very respectable
looking guy
Wow, that's good. Ha!
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gabrielle Obre
gabrielleobre@ wrote:
hey maybe that's the answer to ap budget woes. legal prostitution.
what with the economy tanking there are surely some game
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
well the other day I was in AC on business and had to go to the casino
for a meeting. While waiting, I sat down at a $10 blackjack table. then
two old peole sat down on either side of me. They are married 63 years
and are 83
that was snort worthy! funny
tommy, no one offered up the fax machine. sorry, but im not dropping
30 bucks. if someone gives me 20 ill chip in 10 and do it tomorrow,
otherwise we can wait for the city.
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-- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, jwkeady [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Friends of Asbury Park:
along with a short list of names of citizens
that I feel should serve on this committee.
We must recruit the most qualified citizens to help the city reach
the goals and objectives I have
I think renters should qualify, they pay a lot of taxes directly and
indirectly through the landlord. And just because someone rents, it
does not mean they are not talented to contribute to the committee.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, apoojo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
curious,
The key word(s) here are ...who paid property taxes
or:
Your principal residence is subject to local property taxes, and
property taxes are paid on that residence through rent; and
Your principal residence is a full living unit with its own separate
kitchen and bathroom.
***Technically, you're NOT a taxpayer if you live in a tax exempt
property - fed housing, religious housing etc (there's more detail
but
thats a summary).
Interesting tidbit
The key word(s) here are ...who paid property taxes
Fed Housing, religous housing claim/get exempted
In a message dated 11/16/2007 7:50:41 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
***Technically, you're NOT a taxpayer if you live in a tax exempt
property - fed housing, religious housing etc (there's more detail but
thats a summary).
Interesting tidbit
No thoughts on this below?
To answer the question of what percentage of the budget is
discretionary spending and what percentage is mandated, is to also
answer the question of whether a budget committee is needed.
Lots of folks could end up on a committee that is a complete waste of
their
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, rook782 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think renters should qualify, they pay a lot of taxes directly and
indirectly through the landlord. And just because someone rents, it
does not mean they are not talented to contribute to the committee.
Renters ARE
Jim,
Does your ego permit you to feel any sense of shame when you attack
the council majority in this irresponsible fashion?
I was just wondering.
Paul Vail
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, jwkeady [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Friends of Asbury Park:
At the November 7th City Council
That comment ought to light up the board for a couple days.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Paul Vail [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Jim,
Does your ego permit you to feel any sense of shame when you
attack
the council majority in this irresponsible fashion?
I was just wondering.
Paul
As far as I'm concerned, Jim is the only council member that actively reaches
out to his
community, and one has to respect that considering the history of our cities
administration.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, rook782 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
That comment ought to light up the board
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Paul Vail vailpj@ wrote:
Jim,
Does your ego permit you to feel any sense of shame when you
attack
the council majority in this irresponsible fashion?
I was just wondering.
Paul Vail
Why is it irresponsible? Because he doesn't go along
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Why is it irresponsible? Because he doesn't go along wih the flow??
The guy might be right 100% of the time, but he at least makes you
think - like it or not?
What is good for the goose is good for the gander and I will
Evenhanded indeed. Thank you.
I could have stay'd here all the night
To hear good counsel: O, what learning is!-- Will Shakespeare
In a message dated 11/15/2007 5:51:43 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Curious:
How much of the current budget is discretionary spending, and how much
is mandated spending by County, State, Feds, BofE, etc?
Anyone know? I don't. Heard that generally in most towns its quite
small, but I couldn't tell you how small.
Googlization failed me on the issue.
I've said it before - we are all in the same boat. We better start
rowing together in the same direction.
To row a boat, you need the oars.
You need the money to buy the oars.
No money, no oars.
Then you either drift alone, waiting to be rescued, crash or jump and
swim for it.
Take your
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Roughly $15M out of $35M is just for salaries. Approximately $10M just
for fire and police. 10% cut gives $1.5M. That avoids layoffs. Pay it
1. Fire everyone. Legalize/document the undocumented. Hire them to be
firemen, work
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