[AsburyPark] Re: Werner Wrecking Asbury Radio

2006-10-30 Thread justifiedright
Well thank you Sharon. I know our backgrounds have some similarities, and I'm glad we can relate in that way. Asbury seems to be a smaller New Orleans from the way you describe it. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "2fine4u" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Tommy: > I have to give credit, where

[AsburyPark] Re: Werner Wrecking Asbury Radio

2006-10-30 Thread 2fine4u
Tommy: I have to give credit, where credit is due. I, myself, am not a native of this town or this county, for that matter. Nothing beats fact or your own personal memory. I have heard and read exactly what you have posted here. I never thought I'd see it in print, especially in this someti

[AsburyPark] Re: Werner Wrecking Asbury Radio

2006-10-28 Thread Jim
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "apoojo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > -> > Listen Freddy I was told differant from the City.In e-mails & In > person by people running the City to people in charge of employees of > the City. > > i am curious as to who told you via emails, and in person, the

[AsburyPark] Re: Werner Wrecking Asbury Radio

2006-10-28 Thread apoojo
-> > Listen Freddy I was told differant from the City.In e-mails & In person by people running the City to people in charge of employees of the City. i am curious as to who told you via emails, and in person, the wrong information, would'nt it make sense if the person who gave you the wrong in

[AsburyPark] Re: Werner Wrecking Asbury Radio

2006-10-28 Thread Jim
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Jim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Fred" wrote: > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Jim" wrote: > > > > > > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "oakdorf" wrote: > > > > > > > > Didn't someone post that

[AsburyPark] Re: Werner Wrecking Asbury Radio

2006-10-28 Thread Jim
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Fred" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Jim" wrote: > > > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "oakdorf" wrote: > > > > Didn't someone post that it's the Librarys problem and they have > their owm people who take care

[AsburyPark] Re: Werner Wrecking Asbury Radio

2006-10-27 Thread Fred
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Jim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "oakdorf" wrote: Didn't someone post that it's the Librarys problem and they have their owm people who take care of the grounds. Stop crying. Go to the Library and tell them. O

[AsburyPark] Re: Werner Wrecking Asbury Radio

2006-10-27 Thread Jim
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "oakdorf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > One of best ways to learn about AP hitory is to: > > 1. speak to the people who have lived here forever. > 2. speak to the newbies > 3. Go sit in the Library and start pulling microfilms out and begin > reading the vario

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Werner Wrecking Asbury Radio

2006-10-27 Thread MarioAPNJ
; from Tommy?     http://www.snopes.com/politics/bush/piehigher.asp     Cordiali saluti, Original Message Subj: [AsburyPark] Re: Werner Wrecking Asbury Radio Date: 10/27/2006 11:15:47 A.M. Eastern Standard Time From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[AsburyPark] Re: Werner Wrecking Asbury Radio

2006-10-27 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Is that the best you got Dan? > > Good job ignoring everything I wrote. > An historian has to put his personal preferences aside and tell it > like it was, evev if it hurts him. Bradley was racist and elitist.

[AsburyPark] Re: Werner Wrecking Asbury Radio

2006-10-27 Thread Hinge
Here's an idea...instead of fighting with each other, why not come together. Sounds like you're both on the side of preserving Asbury's history. Make love, not war. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Is that the best you got Dan? > > Good job ignor

[AsburyPark] Re: Werner Wrecking Asbury Radio

2006-10-27 Thread justifiedright
Is that the best you got Dan? Good job ignoring everything I wrote. If Werner writes a history book that says Bradley's design and planning of Asbury Park did not include segregation, then he would be distorting history and you know it. I have as much reason as anyone to want Bradley to have b

[AsburyPark] Re: Werner Wrecking Asbury Radio

2006-10-27 Thread Hinge
I'd like to get a transcript of last nights broadcast and check the facts that Tommy is posting here. I wonder how accurate they are? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'll give just one example out of many from last night. I could > write a sho

[AsburyPark] Re: Werner Wrecking Asbury Radio

2006-10-27 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > He has an agenda. He is willing to disort history (by saying Bradly > was not responsible for segregation when he clearly was) just so his > agenda does not get derailed. You are not serious are you? If I wer

[AsburyPark] Re: Werner Wrecking Asbury Radio

2006-10-27 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > I am a subscriber, so if anyone wants a particular article or articles, > email me privately, and I will cut and paste it back to you. Thanks Mario. I am too, so just for fun I am going to upload the second one to the fi

[AsburyPark] Re: Werner Wrecking Asbury Radio

2006-10-27 Thread wernerapnj
Hey Oak, Have you been following me around? Your process is exactly what I've been doing for 25+ years. I'll Add: -Join historical and preservation organizations. -Attend training offered by the State of NJ. -Keep up to date in the current best practices in the field. -Go to national preservatio

[AsburyPark] Re: Werner Wrecking Asbury Radio

2006-10-27 Thread justifiedright
I'll give just one example out of many from last night. I could write a short book about the things he was wrong about. Let me tell you up front what to watch out for with Werner - even when he has facts right, it's his analysis of those facts and conclusions he draws from them that are wild.

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Werner Wrecking Asbury Radio

2006-10-27 Thread MarioAPNJ
=====Original Message==== Subj: [AsburyPark] Re: Werner Wrecking Asbury Radio Date: 10/27/2006 8:44:16 A.M. Eastern Standard Time From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent on:    One of best ways to learn about AP h

[AsburyPark] Re: Werner Wrecking Asbury Radio

2006-10-27 Thread Hinge
Absolutely. For the record, I wasn't talking about you, but about the detractors who started this thread. It was no surprise who was on the negative side of things. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "oakdorf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > ps. > > I give Werner credit for all his efforts. Migh

[AsburyPark] Re: Werner Wrecking Asbury Radio

2006-10-27 Thread oakdorf
ps. I give Werner credit for all his efforts. Might not agree with all of them, but at least there is some voice instead of all yes (wo)men. dd Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Indivi

[AsburyPark] Re: Werner Wrecking Asbury Radio

2006-10-27 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "wernerapnj" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Regarding "people like you" - just what kind of characterization is that? I certainly don't > "stand by" I participate in every public process in this City that I can. Don't you get the shorthand Werner - native born

[AsburyPark] Re: Werner Wrecking Asbury Radio

2006-10-27 Thread Hinge
I just don't get it. As far as I can tell, Werner has only one agenda...preserving the architectural and historic legacy of AP. What's wrong with that? Unfortunately, it seems that the future of AP is written in stone, but that doesn't mean that people can't still try and preserve what little is le

[AsburyPark] Re: Werner Wrecking Asbury Radio

2006-10-27 Thread oakdorf
One of best ways to learn about AP hitory is to: 1. speak to the people who have lived here forever. 2. speak to the newbies 3. Go sit in the Library and start pulling microfilms out and begin reading the various publications from late 1800's. 4. then piece it all together. (Create the history)

[AsburyPark] Re: Werner Wrecking Asbury Radio

2006-10-27 Thread wernerapnj
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Fred" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > When it comes to Asbury I forgot more than you could ever know and > I'm sure Tommy and few others feel the same. > We can't re-live the past we must move on into the future and if > they do plan that I saw we will be a pl

[AsburyPark] Re: Werner Wrecking Asbury Radio

2006-10-26 Thread Fred
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "wernerapnj" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > And You ??? When it comes to Asbury I forgot more than you could ever know and I'm sure Tommy and few others feel the same. We can't re-live the past we must move on into the future and if they do plan that I saw

[AsburyPark] Re: Werner Wrecking Asbury Radio

2006-10-26 Thread wernerapnj
Fred, You exactly right - You don't know me. You are exactly wrong - I did not come here in the aerly 80's. You are partially right - I am very up to date on planning issues. Socio-economics is part of planning. My background is in engineering, preservation, urban planning, and best of all, how

[AsburyPark] Re: Werner Wrecking Asbury Radio

2006-10-26 Thread wernerapnj
You can 'beliebe' what you like. The formative years of Asbury Parks' southwest quadrent are rooted in the time period called 'reconstructuion' after the civil war. Many families of southern heritage migrated to the north seeking freedom and jobs. Asbury park was a newly developing community th

[AsburyPark] Re: Werner Wrecking Asbury Radio

2006-10-26 Thread wernerapnj
I'm sitting here reading Tommy's comments about Maureen's show. His criticism lacks any substance, I just can't bear to read. I'd have answered earlier but only got to the PC now. Good grief. The thought that some poor researcher might find his postings 100 years from now and use it as an hist

[AsburyPark] Re: Werner Wrecking Asbury Radio

2006-10-26 Thread Fred
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > It is sad and should be against the law who the hell is is. He moves here in the early 80's and he's an expert on planning and crime. What degrees does he have?? It's almost sad. > > --- In AsburyPark@ya

[AsburyPark] Re: Werner Wrecking Asbury Radio

2006-10-26 Thread Fred
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > It is sad and should be against the law who the hell is is. He moves here in the early 80's and he's an expert on planning and crime. What degrees does he have?? It's almost sad. > > --- In AsburyPark@ya

[AsburyPark] Re: Werner Wrecking Asbury Radio

2006-10-26 Thread justifiedright
It's almost sad. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Fred" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" > wrote: > > > > > > > > I had to get off myself, I was getting sick. I don't no where to > begin. I know families that lived in the southwest and

[AsburyPark] Re: Werner Wrecking Asbury Radio

2006-10-26 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'm sitting here listening to Werner on Marueen's show. His "history" > is so inaccurate I can't bear to listen. > > I'd call in but I'd get cut off before I could finish. > > Good grief. The thought that some

[AsburyPark] Re: Werner Wrecking Asbury Radio

2006-10-26 Thread Fred
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I had to get off myself, I was getting sick. I don't no where to begin. I know families that lived in the southwest and they didn't migrate from the south. How can anyone beliebe this guy. What is his de