Re: what should we do if the forum, Whent down with out any warning?

Re: what should we do if the forum, Whent down with out any warning? A community is easy.  A community with the contingent of people that are left here who misapply free speech whenever they get moderated because they can't handle rules isn't going to happen, because anyone lef

Re: what should we do if the forum, Whent down with out any warning?

Re: what should we do if the forum, Whent down with out any warning? All I know is that if the forum went down without warning, things would not be the same for AudioGames. Because I think, as many times implied, if the forum goes down, so does the AudioGame database.I agree with those

Re: what should we do if the forum, Whent down with out any warning?

Re: what should we do if the forum, Whent down with out any warning? @33, wxWidgets? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/611869/#p611869 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo

Re: what should we do if the forum, Whent down with out any warning?

Re: what should we do if the forum, Whent down with out any warning? Yeah, to be honest a lot of that is why I haven't seriously taken this on--you need a lot of bandwidth to deal with this community.  I'd consider running the server but only if a lot of stuff changed to

Re: what should we do if the forum, Whent down with out any warning?

Re: what should we do if the forum, Whent down with out any warning? Did a bit of thinking, research, and soul-searching over the last day or so, and have decided to walk back my offer to help build a next generation of this community.Put as diplomatically as possible, the kind of

Re: what should we do if the forum, Whent down with out any warning?

Re: what should we do if the forum, Whent down with out any warning? Discourse isn't niche at all. Its used by a ton of projects, and people really need to get off the PunBB bandwagon anyway. If you want modern functionality, you have to go with modern tools. You don't like the

Re: what should we do if the forum, Whent down with out any warning?

Re: what should we do if the forum, Whent down with out any warning? Discourse isn't niche at all. Its used by a ton of projects, and people really need to get off the PunBB bandwagon anyway. If you want modern functionality, you have to go with modern tools. You don't like the

Re: what should we do if the forum, Whent down with out any warning?

Re: what should we do if the forum, Whent down with out any warning? Edit:I tried to correct some errors earlier but edge wasn't letting me do so for some reason, eitherways, If we want a decent forum that keeps the look and feel of this one, just with more goodies, and eyecand

Re: what should we do if the forum, Whent down with out any warning?

Re: what should we do if the forum, Whent down with out any warning? Edit:I tried to correct some errors earlier but edge wasn't letting me do so for some reason, eitherways, If we want a decent forum that keeps the look and feel of this one, just with more goodies, and eyecand

Re: what should we do if the forum, Whent down with out any warning?

Re: what should we do if the forum, Whent down with out any warning? If we swant something simple and keeps the forum layout, while having access to lots of 3rd party plugs  ins, i think flux would be an OK choice. Its easy to set up, and has the same look and feel lof jthis, just slightly

Re: what should we do if the forum, Whent down with out any warning?

Re: what should we do if the forum, Whent down with out any warning? I still suggest keeping a backup copy for someone to put back on the air.the problem is not necessarily that, but how to maintain something that would be very difficult to pay?you see?in this case, I think we can migrate

Re: what should we do if the forum, Whent down with out any warning?

Re: what should we do if the forum, Whent down with out any warning? @61The sorts of third-party software Nolan, I, and a couple others are discussing aren't niche."I decided to run my own forum" is a thing that still happens.  Almost every programming language I can thin

Re: what should we do if the forum, Whent down with out any warning?

Re: what should we do if the forum, Whent down with out any warning? A few thoughts:If this forum goes down, I think we need to start fresh. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're probably thinking I'm crazy, because there is a large db of audiogames, but for some time I have been thinking i

Re: what should we do if the forum, Whent down with out any warning?

Re: what should we do if the forum, Whent down with out any warning? You only need to know a couple of simple things to use both Reddit and Discord effectively, and IMO the annoyances are worth the benefits.  If you want to get more advanced, the workarounds increase in complexity.If

Re: what should we do if the forum, Whent down with out any warning?

Re: what should we do if the forum, Whent down with out any warning? You only need to know a couple of simple things to use both Reddit and Discord effectively, and IMO the annoyances are worth the benefits.  If you want to get more advanced, the workarounds increase in complexity.If

Re: what should we do if the forum, Whent down with out any warning?

Re: what should we do if the forum, Whent down with out any warning? You only need to know a couple of simple things to use both Reddit and Discord effectively.  If you want to get more advanced, the workarounds increase in complexity.If that's too much for you, or the very conce

Re: what should we do if the forum, Whent down with out any warning?

Re: what should we do if the forum, Whent down with out any warning? @42: Except that Discord has weird focus issues where as you're pressing h to navigate through messages it randomly jumps you back and forth and such. Also Reddit is not realtime as Camlorn said. But I'm done wi

Re: what should we do if the forum, Whent down with out any warning?

Re: what should we do if the forum, Whent down with out any warning? @42: Except that Discord has weird focus issues where as you're pressing h to navigate through messages it randomly jumps you back and forth and such. Also Reddit is not realtime as Camlorn said. But I'm done wi

Re: what should we do if the forum, Whent down with out any warning?

Re: what should we do if the forum, Whent down with out any warning? $42: Except that DIscord has weird focus issues where as you're pressing h to navigate through messages it randomly jumps you back and forth and such. Also Reddit is not realtime as Camlorn said. But I'm done wi

Re: what should we do if the forum, Whent down with out any warning?

Re: what should we do if the forum, Whent down with out any warning? @Jayjay, Lukas meant navigating the messages with arrow key in focus mode, it works, but it doesn't reads the messages. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/611267/#p611267 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing

Re: what should we do if the forum, Whent down with out any warning?

Re: what should we do if the forum, Whent down with out any warning? @56 Ah, gotcha, must have missed that one. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/611257/#p611257 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com

Re: what should we do if the forum, Whent down with out any warning?

Re: what should we do if the forum, Whent down with out any warning? Shrug, I don't really have any interest in arguing about Discord anymore.  But you've got a number of people who definitely know their stuff here saying it's a problem.  I'm sure there's some p

Re: what should we do if the forum, Whent down with out any warning?

Re: what should we do if the forum, Whent down with out any warning? No, I was talking about the idea of writing a custom platform ourselves, which someone else proposed earlier in this thread. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/611248/#p611248 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing

Re: what should we do if the forum, Whent down with out any warning?

Re: what should we do if the forum, Whent down with out any warning? @Lucas and Camlorn, I've honestly never experienced any of the problems you mentioned with discord, on both the site and desktop client. Never had to use object nav or any of that rubbish. The only problem is some

Re: what should we do if the forum, Whent down with out any warning?

Re: what should we do if the forum, Whent down with out any warning? @53 I'm confused. Are you calling something like Doscourse a custom platform that no one uses? Or are you claiming that individual forums, mailing lists, etc. as used by just about every project I rely on for my wor

Re: what should we do if the forum, Whent down with out any warning?

Re: what should we do if the forum, Whent down with out any warning? I'm opposed to using a custom platform no one else uses, because it further isolates our community from the rest of the web. hEre at least we get the occasional sighted developer showing up, often because someone

Re: what should we do if the forum, Whent down with out any warning?

Re: what should we do if the forum, Whent down with out any warning? I don't have time to help run it, but I could probably throw a few bucks a month at it if you started something. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/611230/#p611230 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audio

Re: what should we do if the forum, Whent down with out any warning?

Re: what should we do if the forum, Whent down with out any warning? A few thoughts:1. Definitely agree that we still need a long-form, slower platform like a forum. Chat would be nice for some things as well. Managing them under the same umbrella may or may not be a good thing--I'

Re: what should we do if the forum, Whent down with out any warning?

Re: what should we do if the forum, Whent down with out any warning? isn't there another forum like audio games, it was talked about in the general section a couple years ago. I don't know if the thing ever got off the ground, I really had no interest in going to another site fo

Re: what should we do if the forum, Whent down with out any warning?

Re: what should we do if the forum, Whent down with out any warning? Anyone knows what happened to the audiogames.net Twitter account? As far as I remember, that wasn't really in control  of the webmasters, or at least not exclusively. It could be an excellent announcements platfor

Re: what should we do if the forum, Whent down with out any warning?

Re: what should we do if the forum, Whent down with out any warning? IMO the smartest thing to do would be to have a subreddit with at least one but no more than two accompanying chat platforms and possibly a microblogging platform as well.  I mean hell Reddit is even doing group chats now

Re: what should we do if the forum, Whent down with out any warning?

Re: what should we do if the forum, Whent down with out any warning? IMO the smartest thing to do would be to have a subreddit with at least one accompanying chat platform and possibly a microblogging platform as well.  I mean hell Reddit is even doing group chats now, but not putting all

Re: what should we do if the forum, Whent down with out any warning?

Re: what should we do if the forum, Whent down with out any warning? @Camlorn Sometimes, I'm a bit confused by your posts. You say that for you, Discords accessibility is not good yet, which is fine of course, but when a few of us say we really like Discords accessibility, the

Re: what should we do if the forum, Whent down with out any warning?

Re: what should we do if the forum, Whent down with out any warning? although, Camlorn has a point, If we keeped using one centralized forum we will keep returning to the same point of what's right now, Probably there's not someone that is willing to keep a site/forum opened for

Re: what should we do if the forum, Whent down with out any warning?

Re: what should we do if the forum, Whent down with out any warning? man, i would use redit with no problems. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/611141/#p611141 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi

Re: what should we do if the forum, Whent down with out any warning?

Re: what should we do if the forum, Whent down with out any warning? @ 24finally someone who said what I think.imagine if the forum goes down, imagine the new users that are starting in the gamer world, imagine them disoriented without knowing what to do.there, they will stay in groups of

Re: what should we do if the forum, Whent down with out any warning?

Re: what should we do if the forum, Whent down with out any warning? There's a reason I don't use social media. They all use awful web interfaces that are very clunky. Everything is moving to Electron or is on the web. No one wants to make native GUI applications anymore beca

Re: what should we do if the forum, Whent down with out any warning?

Re: what should we do if the forum, Whent down with out any warning? There's a reason I don't use social media. They all use awful web interfaces that are very clunky. Everything is moving to Electron or is on the web. No one wants to make native GUI applications anymore beca

Re: what should we do if the forum, Whent down with out any warning?

Re: what should we do if the forum, Whent down with out any warning? There's a reason I don't use social media. They all use awful web interfaces that are very clunky. Everything is moving to Electron or is on the web. No one wants to make native GUI applications anymore beca

Re: what should we do if the forum, Whent down with out any warning?

Re: what should we do if the forum, Whent down with out any warning? You'll sscream and kick about how you can't arrow through Discord messages, and have to press h to move through them. But you'll happily navigate past all the shit that you have to get past on Reddit's

Re: what should we do if the forum, Whent down with out any warning?

Re: what should we do if the forum, Whent down with out any warning? @39weren't you the one who was recommending against electron a couple months back? i mean yeah, vs code actually could have gotten better since the last time I used it, around 2018 but still. Skype and discord still

Re: what should we do if the forum, Whent down with out any warning?

Re: what should we do if the forum, Whent down with out any warning? Hi.@lucous, yeah it does. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/611089/#p611089 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman

Re: what should we do if the forum, Whent down with out any warning?

Re: what should we do if the forum, Whent down with out any warning? @34Nothing is wrong with Electron, and VSCode works great.  Using Aria, it is possible to make web apps that function like desktop apps entirely, enough so that you'd be hard pressed to notice it's a web s

Re: what should we do if the forum, Whent down with out any warning?

Re: what should we do if the forum, Whent down with out any warning? New Reddit actually has some things specifically for accessibility I think. I like it for a couple reasons. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/611083/#p611083 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames

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Re: what should we do if the forum, Whent down with out any warning? Hi.@GrannyCheeseWheel, not for me it isn't.I get it, the page and comments and all that load at once but I prefer the old way. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/611078/#p611078 -- Audiogames-reflector ma

Re: what should we do if the forum, Whent down with out any warning?

Re: what should we do if the forum, Whent down with out any warning? New reddit is far superior. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/611077/#p611077 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman

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Re: what should we do if the forum, Whent down with out any warning? Hi.@aaron77, I guess I'm just used to the old version I can use the new one but find it even more clunky but that's probably just because i'm not used to it. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/

Re: what should we do if the forum, Whent down with out any warning?

Re: what should we do if the forum, Whent down with out any warning? at33I see your point. I've also noticed that the majority seem to prefer web apps over native, I mean look at discord, skype, and i know that this isn't a chat app but, VS code, what are the common things about

Re: what should we do if the forum, Whent down with out any warning?

Re: what should we do if the forum, Whent down with out any warning? @31In particular none of that is the real problem.  It seems like it's the real problem, but the real problem is that naming a modern GUI library that's accessible by default and cross platform is basically impo

Re: what should we do if the forum, Whent down with out any warning?

Re: what should we do if the forum, Whent down with out any warning? discord is my personal favorite when it comes to instant messaging.  Most of my sighted friends use it so it's really easy to stay in touch.Reddit... I see the appeal of it but its hard for me to open it and keep up

Re: what should we do if the forum, Whent down with out any warning?

Re: what should we do if the forum, Whent down with out any warning? at camlornI mean what do you expect when the majority of your user base is sighted and only stay for the fancy user interface with their unlabeled icon buttons and menus. Also take into account that unless you have a

Re: what should we do if the forum, Whent down with out any warning?

Re: what should we do if the forum, Whent down with out any warning? Hi.To get through old reddit easier, find the post with the dashes, for example: after_applying_to_32_companies… Then press tab, you'll now be able to read every single post on that page, the only issue is when you g

Re: what should we do if the forum, Whent down with out any warning?

Re: what should we do if the forum, Whent down with out any warning? yeah but the thing is.  Name a chat platform that's got really truly great accessibility and you kind of can't.  There's some with okay accessibility but somehow those are the ones that are selling y

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Re: what should we do if the forum, Whent down with out any warning? at 26 and 27until there is a relatively accessible web client i honestly wouldn't recommend reddit. Sure, there is old reddit but that interface is clunky IMHO. I mean, you have to get through a lot of links and the

Re: what should we do if the forum, Whent down with out any warning?

Re: what should we do if the forum, Whent down with out any warning? at 25 and 26until there is a relatively accessible web client i honestly wouldn't recommend reddit. Sure, there is old reddit but that interface is clunky IMHO. I mean, you have to get through a lot of links and the

Re: what should we do if the forum, Whent down with out any warning?

Re: what should we do if the forum, Whent down with out any warning? Hi.Everyone knows my answer by now but I'd use reddit.It's got its issues but that's all to do with the subs you join and whether you look at the front page or not. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/

Re: what should we do if the forum, Whent down with out any warning?

Re: what should we do if the forum, Whent down with out any warning? @24: Completely agreed. I think Reddit is the best solution if the forum goes down. It's even a little bit cleaner in my opinion, considering the threaded nature of posts. If one branch gets derailed into memi

Re: what should we do if the forum, Whent down with out any warning?

Re: what should we do if the forum, Whent down with out any warning? prepare for the when, not the if.  It's going to happen eventually. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/611024/#p611024 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com

Re: what should we do if the forum, Whent down with out any warning?

Re: what should we do if the forum, Whent down with out any warning? Discord is *not* a replacement for a forum. It's an instant messaging platform. The conversations there are pretty ephemeral, where as a topic on a forum can go on for several pages.Just look at the recent topics wit

Re: what should we do if the forum, Whent down with out any warning?

Re: what should we do if the forum, Whent down with out any warning? I'm on 20 something discord servers and it's fine. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/611018/#p611018 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://

Re: what should we do if the forum, Whent down with out any warning?

Re: what should we do if the forum, Whent down with out any warning? Not as of a month or so ago.  What we mean by arrow through messages is you hit arrow and you just get the next/previous message read.  Unless there's been sudden patches to Discord recently then you've eve

Re: what should we do if the forum, Whent down with out any warning?

Re: what should we do if the forum, Whent down with out any warning? @19: You can, but actually you can't because they didn't do it right yet. It just says message actions. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/611014/#p611014 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list

Re: what should we do if the forum, Whent down with out any warning?

Re: what should we do if the forum, Whent down with out any warning? There is that. Because headings aren't enough if someone writes a barrage of messages in the same timeframe. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/611012/#p611012 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audio

Re: what should we do if the forum, Whent down with out any warning?

Re: what should we do if the forum, Whent down with out any warning? Uh, you can? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/611004/#p611004 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo

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Re: what should we do if the forum, Whent down with out any warning? Until you can functionally arrow through messages, I will always say Discord is annoying. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/611002/#p611002 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin

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Re: what should we do if the forum, Whent down with out any warning? Fuck telegram. it's annoying as hell to use. I'd choose duscord and whatsapp any day. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/610998/#p610998 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@

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Re: what should we do if the forum, Whent down with out any warning? You don't need object nav for Discord at all. The last time I used Telegram... well before that it was good, but then it regressed in accessibility. Unigram's OK but it's an UWP app and those have inheren

Re: what should we do if the forum, Whent down with out any warning?

Re: what should we do if the forum, Whent down with out any warning? Yeah, never had to use object nav with discord. You navigate discord pretty much the same way you'd navigate this forum pretty much URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/610993/#p610993 -- Audiogames-refl

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Re: what should we do if the forum, Whent down with out any warning? @camlorn you're sure the last time you checked Discord out wasn't last year? Because by now, you can pretty much use tab across the interface, and I never needed to use object navigation in a web app where b

Re: what should we do if the forum, Whent down with out any warning?

Re: what should we do if the forum, Whent down with out any warning? Yeah, the telegram iOS app seems to work fine and Unigram can actually let you arrow through messages and things. Unless I'm seriously missing something, half of Discord doesn't even work with tab, and some thin

Re: what should we do if the forum, Whent down with out any warning?

Re: what should we do if the forum, Whent down with out any warning? I have not tried Telegram, but I would agree that Discord accessibility is still... not great. They seem to be working on it, but nobody has ever been able to tell me how it's actually good and not just alright.

Re: what should we do if the forum, Whent down with out any warning?

Re: what should we do if the forum, Whent down with out any warning? I'll have to give it a shot. how is it on the iPhone? assuming people use it on that URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/610982/#p610982 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabah

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Re: what should we do if the forum, Whent down with out any warning? Discord's accessibility is subjectively waaay better than Unigrams in many areas. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/610978/#p610978 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabah

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Re: what should we do if the forum, Whent down with out any warning? Unigram works well for telegram.  And yeah, I actually wonder why nobody has taken the reigns and backed up the archive somewhere. after all, that is more important then the topics and posts URL: https

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Re: what should we do if the forum, Whent down with out any warning? One thing though, even if we can't recover the forum topics, at least we can try something bold, radical and time consuming I thought of. We could just copy the database entries, upload them to a github, so if we h

Re: what should we do if the forum, Whent down with out any warning?

Re: what should we do if the forum, Whent down with out any warning? Discord accessibility is better than Telegram. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/610976/#p610976 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin

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Re: what should we do if the forum, Whent down with out any warning? If this went down, I have the people I want to keep in touch with, and if I need to, I am sure I can find someone if needed.  And the way this sight is taken care of, i'm amazed its still around. URL:

Re: what should we do if the forum, Whent down with out any warning?

Re: what should we do if the forum, Whent down with out any warning? IDK, if this forum goes down and the next generation of audiogamers googles audiogame they won't find anything aside from a bunch of decentralised twitters and telegrams, if at all. Even in the sighted community ther

Re: what should we do if the forum, Whent down with out any warning?

Re: what should we do if the forum, Whent down with out any warning? yes, I use things like skype, Whats app, Twitter, And a tun, But why this is because, It lists all blind audio games news, Development, Etc in one place.Edit: I didn't read your post carefully before but i did an

Re: what should we do if the forum, Whent down with out any warning?

Re: what should we do if the forum, Whent down with out any warning? Discords accessibility being meh? I've installed it for the first time a few weeks ago and was really impressed how well that works. I've not had the slightest accessibility issue so far.

Re: what should we do if the forum, Whent down with out any warning?

Re: what should we do if the forum, Whent down with out any warning? yes, I use things like skype, Whats app, Twitter, And a tun, But why this is because, It lists all blind audio games news, Development, Etc in one place. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/610969/#p610969

Re: what should we do if the forum, Whent down with out any warning?

Re: what should we do if the forum, Whent down with out any warning? The only reason this is a potential problem is because there's a lot of valuable content on the site, and because no one who develops audiogames ever learned how to promote their stuff.  There's Twitter, Disco

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