[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: SB3 Analog output vs digital via Arcam AVR250

2006-01-02 Thread ilancas
The AVR250 is significantly better than the 200 (I'm told), so I'll buy a digital coax connector and try it. By the way, it's always seemed odd to me that the quality of a DIGITAL connector can possibly have any bearing on sound quality. Analog yes, but digital? -- ilancas

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: SB1 digital out compared to SB2 and SB3

2006-01-02 Thread Robin Bowes
Andrew L.Weekes said the following on 02/01/2006 00:16: Interesting. What is the equations that describe this? If it is too long to post, got an URL? SNR (DBC)=#8211;20 LOG10(2#960;.FIN.TJITTER), WHERE FIN IS THE ANALOG-INPUT FREQUENCY, TJITTER IS THE TOTAL SYSTEM JITTER IN SECONDS.

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: SB3 Analog output vs digital via Arcam AVR250

2006-01-02 Thread ceejay
ilancas Wrote: By the way, it's always seemed odd to me that the quality of a DIGITAL connector can possibly have any bearing on sound quality. Analog yes, but digital? Careful, big can of worms here ! Just have a search on this forum for discussions on jitter... Ceejay -- ceejay

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Solving the jitter problem . . . .

2006-01-02 Thread Malcolm Wotton
I've been curious about jitter for a while, and had a few thoughts, but I don't know if they make sense. First some observations: 1) jitter is not an issue in the digital connection over ethernet sending FLAC/WAV data to the SB (here I mean that if it occurs and causes errors these are detected

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Solving the jitter problem . . . .

2006-01-02 Thread Skunk
mwphoto Wrote: would the audiophiles agree that jitter would no longer be an issue? Or are there other effects at work? The results prob wouldn't be spectacular or anything. Since your're getting a DAC, just get the benchmark that reclocks instead of modifying anything. In a recent post

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: need a dac+dvd+fm combo

2006-01-02 Thread Skunk
sgraphics Wrote: Can't go higher in price, can go lower in price :) Higher than what? The receiver? You never mentioned needing amplification too! Maybe that's what you meant by radio... All I wanted to say is you don't need the radio. Internet radio is fun, and the SB streams it

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Solving the jitter problem . . . .

2006-01-02 Thread ezkcdude
Skunk Wrote: Sometimes you just have to leave well-enough alone :) Benchmark has some great reading linked from their site. Regarding the Benchmark, I just read a review by Peter Aczel of The Audio Critic (which for $12 gives you a lifetime subscription to the webzine). This guy performs

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Songs out of order (grrrr!)

2006-01-02 Thread highdudgeon
Alas, I use an iMac G5. No lights going off and on. Bummer. Why? Because when you're rescanning the entire library, at least on my machine, the server turns off. To get web access, you have to turn the server on. However, turn it on too soon...and it seems to mess up the process. There

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Songs out of order (grrrr!)

2006-01-02 Thread radish
highdudgeon Wrote: Alas, I use an iMac G5. No lights going off and on. Bummer. Why? OK, I'm sure there's some piece of software which will indicate disk usage. Because when you're rescanning the entire library, at least on my machine, the server turns off. To get web access, you have

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Why does the SB sound better than the original CD?

2006-01-02 Thread Mark Lanctot
Skunk Wrote: If the DVD player has exceptional jitter performance, the sound would probably be indistinguishable from HDUSBDAC- unless you consider things like external connections and power supplies... In your case its probably because your DVD player sucks :) :-) It's definitely not

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Bookshelf speaker recommendations?

2006-01-02 Thread Mark Lanctot
Kyle Wrote: I've hooked up the m22i's and love the high end, but they seem a little weak on the lower midrange and midbass. The midrange drivers are smaller than I expected. They sound much better coupled with my Boston Acoustics CR8's than when I disconnect the CR-8's and listen to the

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Best mod?

2006-01-02 Thread prz
Just put my SB3 on a linear power supply here in Switzerland. It's a 2.0Amp 2ppm supply and subjectively listening (too lazy to compare objectively to the original supply, had it going for 2-3 weeks though) to it, I would say, it's a clear improvement albeit not breath-taking. The top is more

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: External DAC?

2006-01-02 Thread prz
SB3 - Tact 2.0 - Odyssey MonoBlocks - Axioms 80 highly recommended, throwing out my CD transport out now except for some HDCD listening (which does not sound significantly better than normal CDs unfortunately). SB3 with linear supply is more musical. I use also a good NAD tuner for radio, that

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Solving the jitter problem . . . .

2006-01-02 Thread ezkcdude
mauidan Wrote: Even if the circuit were a lot less perfect, that would still be the case. News Flash- the DAC-1's circuit is not perfect. If I needed a DAC, for the same money, I'd rather have a Lavry Black. Aren't you being kind of a wordsmith? I think less perfect is supposed to be taken

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Best mod?

2006-01-02 Thread Heuer
Agree on the short 5v cable - I used two core mains (pain to solder into the plug) and kept the length to 12. Worth the trouble though. -- Heuer Heuer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2543 View

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: External DAC?

2006-01-02 Thread Markhh2
w/ a Accoustic Zen MC2 digital cable. Sounds very nice. -- Markhh2 Markhh2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3042 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=15673

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] question to everyone...

2006-01-02 Thread d . f
double post. apologies. -- d.f d.f's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3153 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=19648 ___

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Why not more Squeeezbox reviews in hi-fi magazines?

2006-01-02 Thread sprev
Thanks for all the replies, but I'm afraid that I still don't understand why the SB doesn't have a higher profile in the hi-fi press or why in many cases it isn't reviewed at all. Here are a few potential reasons: The SB is too cheap. But this can't be because why then did John Atkinson choose

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Why not more Squeeezbox reviews in hi-fi magazines?

2006-01-02 Thread ezkcdude
sprev Wrote: Thanks for all the replies, but I'm afraid that I still don't understand why the SB doesn't have a higher profile in the hi-fi press or why in many cases it isn't reviewed at all. Here are a few potential reasons: The SB is too cheap. But this can't be because why then did

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: External DAC?

2006-01-02 Thread PhilNYC
Markhh2 Wrote: w/ a Accoustic Zen MC2 digital cable. Sounds very nice. It would sound even better with an Acoustic Zen Silver Byte digital cable. :-) The MC2 is a 110ohm cable designed for an AES/EBU digital interface, whereas the Silver Byte is 75ohms designed for use with SPDIF, which is

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Why not more Squeeezbox reviews in hi-fi magazines?

2006-01-02 Thread ezkcdude
P, no need to get so technical. Yes, I meant M$. I realize they didn't invent the idea behind DOS, but hey, they did trademark it, right? I don't think we have to worry about SD becoming $D, but I was trying to make a point! -- ezkcdude

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Why not more Squeeezbox reviews in hi-fi magazines?

2006-01-02 Thread Pat Farrell
On Mon, 2006-01-02 at 18:07 -0800, ezkcdude wrote: P, no need to get so technical. Yes, I meant M$. I realize they didn't invent the idea behind DOS, but hey, they did trademark it, right? Trademark DOS? No. Disk Operating System was a common term long before the IBM PC was invented. They

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Solving the jitter problem . . . .

2006-01-02 Thread Pat Farrell
On Mon, 2006-01-02 at 18:39 -0800, konut wrote: Edit #2: Looks like I should throw in the Apogee Mini-DAC, as well. It's $850 without the USB, which I assume most of us don't need, because we have the SqueezeBox, afterall. FYI, all three of these DAC's can be found at Mercenary Audio's online

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Why not more Squeeezbox reviews in hi-fi magazines?

2006-01-02 Thread Pat Farrell
On Mon, 2006-01-02 at 18:46 -0800, ezkcdude wrote: Now, you're just being a dork. Name calling makes your argument stronger? Who cares about the acronym? Microsoft popularized DOS and made it a commercial venture. MS-DOS wasn't such a bad thing. In fact, isn't it still being used in the

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Why not more Squeeezbox reviews in hi-fi magazines?

2006-01-02 Thread ezkcdude
Sorry, about the name-calling. That was out of line. As for the other stuff, I'm not sure how much easier they can make this stuff. There's a lot of technology to wrangle to make the SB work, right? I think we'll see this year whether Apple can do it themselves. The only reason I think Apple

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Solving the jitter problem . . . .

2006-01-02 Thread konut
ezkcdude Wrote: Which forums? I'd be interested to check those out, too! Those would be Rec. Audio Pro on the Google newsgroups, http://gearslutz.com/board/ , http://www.prosoundweb.com/ and http://www.bigbluelounge.com/ which used to be called OSXAudio.com. -- konut

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Solving the jitter problem . . . .

2006-01-02 Thread Pat Farrell
On Mon, 2006-01-02 at 20:42 -0800, konut wrote: ezkcdude Wrote: Which forums? I'd be interested to check those out, too! Those would be Rec. Audio Pro on the Google newsgroups, http://gearslutz.com/board/ , http://www.prosoundweb.com/ and http://www.bigbluelounge.com/ which used to be

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Why not more Squeeezbox reviews in hi-fi magazines?

2006-01-02 Thread tyler_durden
The complexity will work itself out eventually. I remember the early days of PCs when I had to juggle interrupts everytime I made a hardware change to the machine. That all got sorted out, and the difficulties in setting up networks will do the same. What won't sort itself out is the library

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Solving the jitter problem . . . .

2006-01-02 Thread Listener
mauidan Wrote: You have that rare gift of restating the obvious. Have you ever done any electronic work inside the box or do you just quote what others say? Nothing like stating the obvious to rile some people. The point was that high-end companies rely on silicon designed for larger