For the record I will attest that using my DEQ does not destroy my
stereo spatial image.
-Dan
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Now I know that this might sound like a silly question, and for non-hifi
nuts and computer experts it probably is, but this is addressed to
people like me - very fussy about my music and not totally convinced
that computers don't involve witchcraft...
If storage space were not an issue, would
Clive,
I also have a turntable so, alas, no pre amp is not an option for me.
I had been thinking of going active with an eVo6 or a 6 pack of 41Hz
amps, as the Naim gear is getting quite pricey.
cheers
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I was using cheapo optical in, plus Stereovox HDVX coaxial in and nice
quality (but not audiofool) XLR cables out made from Van
Damme/Neutrik bits.
It is possible that the characteristic colorations of the 'briks are
making it hard to notice the differences. In which case you shouldn't
worry
hifisteve wrote:
If someone invented a 'lossless' way of making food 'smaller' for
storage by removing the water, would you rather eat an apparantly
perfectly reconstituted or untouched version? I mean water is just
water right? If you put it back where it came from is as good as
before
Hi,
Sounds like a reasonable question to me and it all comes down to
belief. If you believe the result of compressing and uncompressing is
the same as the original then there's no problem choosing the
compressed version.
Now looking at your questions:
1) Why do I believe lossless compressions
Andrew,
I use identical cheapy din-rca leads and a reasonable diy bnc-rca coax.
I tried the dac1 at a mate's house where we compared the xlr and rca
outputs into a Belcanto/BW system. XLR was marginally better.
I always thought that colouration meant that the sound gets changed in
a certain
It's easy enough to test the lossless theory using a hash algorithm.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hash_function
Just as a text file doesn't change after being zipped and unzipped,
neither will music bits change with lossless compression and
decompression.
Losssless compression is essentially
I don't understand why this is still such an issue. (I suppose it's
because new people always join the forum.) The FLAC code does not
produce errors. Now, if you rip a WAV file with some errors, then of
course, the FLAC file will also have errors. Obviously! So will the WAV
file. If you're
hifisteve Wrote:
Other than the obvious compatability issues, any views on whether
there's any other advantages/disadvantages of using Apple lossless
rather than FLAC?
Not really from an audio standpoint, they're about the same size and
are both lossless. One of them is open source and the
Is there anyone here who refuses to deal with ZIP archives on the theory
that what you get out might not be what you put in? Do you -believe-
that your spreadsheets lose accuracy after they've been ZIPped? :-)
To test a beta release of FLAC, I once used it to encode 3,000 WAV
files, then
Spades all the way. Best contact. Leaving copper exposed to air for
exrended periods invites problems.
Enjoy the new amp; what kind did you get btw?
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dem Wrote:
Is there anyone here who refuses to deal with ZIP archives on the theory
that what you get out might not be what you put in? Do you -believe-
that your spreadsheets lose accuracy after they've been ZIPped? :-)
I'm not sure the zip file analogy is valid here. If all of the sixes
...the only test that matters is: sit down, preferably with a glass of
Peter Michael Les Pavots (I recommend the 2001), play music, close your
eyes, and trust your instinct. If the sound and music vow you, why keep
second-guessing whether something's wrong.
I always compare the the original CD
Original setup.
SB (toslink) Krell DSP Staightwaire Rhapsody Rogue Audio
Tempest(AllTube) Integrated. AQ Midnight Hales Signature 2.
New And Improved
SB (analogue) Staightwaire Rhapsody Rogue Audio Tempest(AllTube)
Integrated. AQ Midnight Hales Signature 2.
Setup 2 blows the original away. It
It's a Parasound A23 I bought on Audiogon. It should be arriving next
week. I'll have to post some pics of my new system when everything is
finally together:
SB3 (w/Elpac PSU)-Tributaries coax-NOS DAC (made by Derek Shek)-MIT
Terminator 2 IC's-Endler Attenuators-Parasound A23-anti-cables-DIY
Kyle Wrote:
I'm not sure the zip file analogy is valid here. If all of the sixes in
your spreadsheet had one pixel out of place, chances are slim that
anyone would notice. However, critical audio listening might indeed
pick up such a minor discrepancy. That said, I believe that FLAC
To play Devil's advocate for a moment (and I've been converting all my
CDs to FLAC, so I'm not anti-FLAC)
Here's a review of the McIntosh MS300 music server. The MS300 would
certainly seem potentially to outperform the Squeezebox in all possible
parameters, especially our home-brew
Cleve Wrote:
Yet on page two, the reviewer claims he can definitely hear a difference
between FLAC and the original CD.
Setting aside for a moment my belief that non-blind comparisons like
this guy did are invalid...
FLAC's job is to make WAV files smaller. It doesn't rip the WAV files
from
Kyle Wrote:
I'm not sure the zip file analogy is valid here. If all of the sixes in
your spreadsheet had one pixel out of place, chances are slim that
anyone would notice. However, critical audio listening might indeed
pick up such a minor discrepancy. That said, I believe that FLAC
Cleve Wrote:
The MS300 would certainly seem potentially to outperform the Squeezebox
in all possible parameters, especially our home-brew ripping/encoding on
our PCs with EAC, Flac, Itunes, or whatever After all, the SB3 is
$300 - and I'm using an old Gateway Athlon 650 as my
hifisteve Wrote:
All I wanted to know is whether all 'audiophiles' are convinced that
lossless compression truely has no impact on sound quality.
That's an easy one. No, all of them are not convinced.
Any other questions?
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Jim
radish Wrote:
Which makes no sense, as spreadsheets don't store pixels they store
numbers. If a spreadsheet file got corrupted, even by a single bit, it
(a) almost certainly wouldn't even load into the application and (b)
would have numeric or formulaic errors. People would notice. It
JJZolx Wrote:
That's an easy one. No, all of them are not convinced.
Any other questions?
If 2+2=4 were an amplifier, then I'd upgrade it to 5 :)
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P Floding Wrote:
A trollig effort, or some kind of bad joke?
You don't have to look very hard in some of the other audiophile forums
to find a significant number of few people claiming that uncompressed
WAV files sound better than FLAC when played on the Sqeezebox.
Also, there are still claims
JJZolx Wrote:
You don't have to look very hard in some of the other audiophile forums
to find a significant number of people claiming that uncompressed WAV
files sound better than FLAC when played on the Sqeezebox.
Also, there are still claims that firmware prior to that released after
As far as the psychology is concerned, it may help not to use the word
compressed in thinking about, say, FLAC vs. WAV. Rather, they are
different representations of the same information. (Actually, as has
been pointed out, FLAC has _more_ information, considering the tags.)
Would you rather
FLAC is a compression format. Compression just denotes the fact that the
files are smaller in size, but says nothing about quality. What is more
important to distinguish is lossy vs. lossless. FLAC is lossless
compression, just like a zip file, as has been said too many times.
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ezkcdude Wrote:
FLAC is a compression format. Compression just denotes the fact that the
files are smaller in size, but says nothing about quality. What is more
important to distinguish is lossy vs. lossless. FLAC is lossless
compression, just like a zip file, as has been said too many
FLAC is smaller than WAV. Isn't that obvious? If you're going to be
really anal about it, then any digital format is a compression of the
orginal analog signal.
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I agree with what people are saying here about lossless formats being,
after all, lossless - but no one has addressed what seems to me to be
the crucial question raised by the OP.
Suppose the SB and/or the server isn't able to do bit-accurate FLAC
decompression in real time? For example, in any
opaqueice wrote:
Suppose the SB and/or the server isn't able to do bit-accurate FLAC
decompression in real time? For example, in any computer occasionally
there will be an error due to a bad hard drive read or a RAM glitch or
something. In normal asynchronous applications this gets caught by
opaqueice Wrote:
I agree with what people are saying here about lossless formats being,
after all, lossless - but no one has addressed what seems to me to be
the crucial question raised by the OP.
Suppose the SB and/or the server isn't able to do bit-accurate FLAC
decompression in real
larsth Wrote:
I looked at the German version of Olive
(http://www.hermstedt.de/english/hifidelio/hifidelio.html) before
deciding on SB. The showstopper for me regarding the Olive/Hifidelio is
that you do not have free access to the music/data on the device. If you
rip music on it, you
Hi, and thanks to everyone for all the very helpful suggestions.
I've decided to go with the modified Khartago amp, which uses a very
high quality potentiometer. I would prefer as few extra elements in my
sound system as possible, and attenuators plus digital volume is two
compared to one. Not
If you want to hear what happens when a portion of the Slimserver/SB
chain can't keep up, turn on your microwave. Wireless interference will
block the transmission of data to the SB. Luckily it has a big buffer so
unless the interference is very long term, no effect whatsoever will be
heard.
Kyle Wrote:
Shows how little I know about the way computers work.
An easy mistake to make if you are not involved in the field. Not
knowing everything there is to know about computers is fine, we're all
experts in our own fields. But seeing as SlimServer/Squeezebox is
basically just a computer
My Power One supply arrived today!
It's somewhat more compact than the Elpac, but seems very well made.
Nice thick glass epoxy board.
I'll check it out and report back!
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Lite Audio DAC60 tube DAC
Pioneer SX-1980
Vandersteen 2Ce Signature
Nothing wrong with that system ;)
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Here's a shot of both power supplies, side by side. As you can see my
older supply is significantly larger than the Power One. Much bigger
power transformer. The Power One is rated for 5 Volts single voltage.
The other has 12 volts as well. Perhaps this accounts for the larger
size...
Let us know how it sounds once you've built it up, Crooner.
Also lemme know if there's any transformer hum.
Thanks,
-Dan
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I sure will!
Looks like I have another weekend project :-)
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Lite Audio DAC60 tube DAC
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Here is what I'm running my brand new SB3 through:
Entech Number Cruncher DAC
Musical Fidelity A300 dual-mono integrated amp
Linn Keilidh speakers
Beeautiful!
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Here's the new power supply all wired and ready to go. I had to
rearrange the AC wires a little bit since the layout is different.
Now, it's all soldered, no removable lugs, which I guess is better :-)
It's reading 5.03 volts unloaded. Should I readjust it?
Here's the power supply hooked to the SB3 and reading exactly 5 volts
after adjustment. I am hoping the short cable run to the SB3 is not
producing any significant drop in voltage.
So far is running super cool compared to my other supply. I don't know
why that other one ran so hot, but I'm glad
Patrick. thanks for the offer but I live in Australia.
I saw some of your posts in pfm. The SB2+ looks very intersting. Are
there any in Perth?
I was just very surprised to see how similar my sources sound. Perhaps
the difference lies in soundstage and pratt etc. Another friend has a
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