I, and at least 3 of my customers, have been running an SB (SB+)
directly into a power amp for over a year now. The power amp has 6dB
less gain than nominal. No problems to report.
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adamslim;170443 Wrote:
Yes, that's called piracy. The clue's in the name ;)
Adam
hahaha, nice one Adam ;-D
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Havoc;170034 Wrote:
www.magnatune.com
I can recommened Ian Parkinsons slimserver plugin 'Magnatune for
SlimServer' (http://magnaslim.sourceforge.net/).
...allows you to play Magnatune previews through your Squeezebox.
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Mark Lanctot;170440 Wrote:
99.5% of consumers would ask what is lossless, why's it bigger and why
do I need it?
Rest assured the companies will tell the consumers why they need it...
once they all have been brought into the fold. There will be
opportunities to buy premium or upgraded music
USAudio;170734 Wrote:
Hi Giga,
I tried the same thing for awhile, plugging the SB3 directly into an
amp (PS Audio Trio A-100). At the listening levels I was listening at
the sound was very good but not as good as I felt it could be due to
the loss of resolution using the SB3's built-in
TCM;170797 Wrote:
I can recommened Ian Parkinsons slimserver plugin 'Magnatune for
SlimServer' (http://magnaslim.sourceforge.net/).
Thanks for the tip - both the site and the plugin are great. It's
really refreshing to see music downloads handled right.
--
opaqueice
DeWayne;170833 Wrote:
I'm a little confused. Are you saying to reduce the Pre Amp volume of
the SB so that the volume on the integrated amp (reciever) can be used
at it's upper limit?
Do the opposite of what you were planning and you should be fine.
I.e. reduce the integrated's volume so
I notice someone on the head fi forums who has had good results driving
a pair of rewired HD650s direct from the XLR output of the Lavry DA10:
http://www.head-fi.org/forums/showthread.php?t=212589
Would this work as well with the transporter XLR outputs (i.e. would
the transporter supply enough
I think the problem would be that you cannot attenuate the XLR output,
so you get no volume control even if you could connect the phones
direct to the transporter.
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DeWayne;170833 Wrote:
I'm a little confused. Are you saying to reduce the Pre Amp volume of
the SB so that the volume on the integrated amp (reciever) can be used
at it's upper limit? ...
Hi DeWayne,
Skunk nailed it. Set the volume of the SB at it's upper limit so it
plays at it's full
I understand why a digital fiber cable can sound poor. Bad connection,
reflections, badly polished ends etc etc.
But I do not get why coax should sound that different from each other.
Why should I pay £100 on a cable? I don't understand (apart from bad
connections) why there should be any
mikeruss;170944 Wrote:
I understand why a digital fiber cable can sound poor. Bad connection,
reflections, badly polished ends etc etc.
But I do not get why coax should sound that different from each other.
Why should I pay £100 on a cable? I don't understand (apart from bad
connections)
Hi guys
Does no one have anything to say on this at all ?
If you have any thoughts, please drop me a reply.
Paul.
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A perfect digital signal consists of two voltage levels and infinitely
sharp, perfectly evenly spaced transitions between them. In S/PDIF
digital audio signals the DAC reconstructs a clock from those
transitions. If the signal was ideal the DAC clock would be perfectly
regular. Instead,
Cheers guys - interesting. You may have saved me some cash.
Must admit I have messed around with my fair share of speaker and
interconnect cable over the years and there are differences - agreed
minor. But the digital side, as you say can make very little
difference?
So - would you say fibre
Thank You, That is how I have been doing it but after I read the
previous posts I thought you were suggesting the opposite. I will keep
things the same.
Thanks again,
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mikeruss;170954 Wrote:
Cheers guys - interesting. You may have saved me some cash.
Must admit I have messed around with my fair share of speaker and
interconnect cable over the years and there are differences - agreed
minor. But the digital side, as you say can make very little
magnanimous;170925 Wrote:
I think the problem would be that you cannot attenuate the XLR output,
so you get no volume control even if you could connect the phones
direct to the transporter.
Not quite. AFAIK the volume control works on all outputs including the
balanced - what you miss is the
Here is my set up and thoughts.
All my equipment is in my theater room.
Mac Mini S/PDIF-toslink (glass)out to Transporter digital in.
Mac Mini video out is connected via DVI/HDMI to TV allowing the TV to
act a my monitor.
Transporter is running balanced (XLR) out to pre-amp.
So I'm thinking,
yooper;170970 Wrote:
Here is my set up and thoughts.
All my equipment is in my theater room.
Mac Mini S/PDIF-toslink (glass)out to Transporter digital in.
Mac Mini video out is connected via DVI/HDMI to TV allowing the TV to
act a my monitor.
Transporter is running balanced (XLR) out
I'm getting a bit repetitive, but spdif vs toslink is system dependant
and both can sound good or bad - depends on system. There is so much
twaddle talked about toslink, nobody ever stops to ponder the fact that
the entire Internet is powered by fibre and bit errors would be pretty
obvious...
The upgraded DAC cards from Aberdeen/Mauimods make just as big
an improvement as the power supply upgrade.
IMO, the digital signal from the SB3 is lacking compared to a quality
transport. I'm told by Aberdeen/Mauimods that the Transporter is a big
improvement.
P Floding;170611 Wrote:
Yes, I
Phil Leigh;170974 Wrote:
I'm getting a bit repetitive, but spdif vs toslink is system dependant
and both can sound good or bad - depends on system. There is so much
twaddle talked about toslink, nobody ever stops to ponder the fact that
the entire Internet is powered by fibre and bit errors
Generally speaking, fibre optic digital audio interconnects (TOSlink)
are considered to have higher jitter than coaxial interconnects.
I have been very pleased with DH Labs D-75 Digital Cable, using Cardas
RCA connectors.
Custom made cables are available from Moon Audio
jhm731;170975 Wrote:
The upgraded DAC cards from Aberdeen/Mauimods make just as big
an improvement as the power supply upgrade.
IMO, the digital signal from the SB3 is lacking compared to a quality
transport. I'm told by Aberdeen/Mauimods that the Transporter is a big
improvement.
I did
I tried your suggestion of running parallel ground connectors from my
SB3's analogue RCAs to my TacT. It made no difference in sound
quality.
P Floding;170992 Wrote:
I did manage to get digital from the SB3 to sound a lot better than
stock by running parallel ground connectors from the SB3's
Hey P, in your tweakings have you ever tried soldering a 75 ohm resistor
to a male rca (signal to gnd.), as a load on the unused s/pdif? I've
never, but have seen it written about as a tweak, and figured if anyone
has tried it :)
--
Skunk
Just borrow something like a Chord Digi Signature Coax and compare it to
your el cheapo, depends on your system and ears of course, if you hear a
difference, you do, if you don't, you don't and saved quite a bit of
cash.
If you are interested in hearing if there is a difference try a
'decent'
I don't know what a ground loop is, but when I had humming in my
speakers, I was told to go down to Radio Shack and buy a ground loop
isolator. It was about $7 and took care of it. It's just an RCA type
cable with a little box in the middle of it.
Here's one from Amazon, although more expensive
jhm731;170998 Wrote:
I tried your suggestion of running parallel ground connectors from my
SB3's analogue RCAs to my TacT. It made no difference in sound quality.
ok, hard to know why. I might have a faulty digital input on the TacT,
a faulty output on the SB3, a different electromegnetic
BTW, parallel really means parallel! You need to tie the ground
interconnects to physically follow the digital interconnect.
What possible effect could this have on the ground path?
FYI- the shield/ground connection on the TacT's analog inputs
are isolated from the chassis ground by a
jhm731;171041 Wrote:
BTW, parallel really means parallel! You need to tie the ground
interconnects to physically follow the digital interconnect.
What possible effect could this have on the ground path?
FYI- the shield/ground connection on the TacT's analog inputs
are isolated from the
You can get a ground loop when two pieces of electronic equipment are
connected to each other but they have different paths to ground. Ground
should be zero volts but often isn't. If one ground path is a zero and
the other ground path is slightly different, you can have have an
audible buzz or
chiefersone;170965 Wrote:
I've been told I have some humming in speakers at another rceiver I'm
hooked up through inmy basement becuse of a GROUND LOOP. What the heck
is a ground loop AND how do I fix it
What kind of cable is connecting the receiver in the basement and how
long of a run
A ground loop is what happens when the nose and tail of a tailwheel
aircraft swap ends.
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Ben Diss
'SB3' (http://www.slimdevices.com/pi_squeezebox.html) - 'Lavry DA10'
(http://www.lavryengineering.com/productspage_da_10.html) - 'BAT
VK-31SE'
pgamble;170950 Wrote:
Hi guys
Does no one have anything to say on this at all ?
If you have any thoughts, please drop me a reply.
Paul.
Please be patient, someone with similar equipments will come to your
aid. For now, try these:
1/ Can you hardwire your SB3 using ethernet?
2/ Rip
USAudio;170734 Wrote:
I did a LOT of research on this forum and based on an informative post
by Sean Adams, decided to go with an integrated amp instead. Once I
tried the integrated version of the same amp, the sound became
outstanding.
Thanks for the suggestion.
So if I understand
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