Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audio Problem

2007-08-30 Thread zanash
try looking at the speaker connection it could be that the 3.5mm mini jack has a poor contact I've had this on no end of 3.5mm sockets on walkmans a small ammount of vibration could be just enough to rattle the socket to create a break. Try cleaning the 3.5mm pin with deoxit or similar.

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] HDCD ripping

2007-08-30 Thread cjk32
Phil Leigh;223693 Wrote: Chris - this sounds great. Any suggestions as to how I could get HDCD to scan a drive (e.g. E:) and recurse all the subdirectories ? (not being a script monkey for the last 15 years or so I'm a bit rusty...) Many Thanks Phil I've had essentially zero experience of

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audio Problem

2007-08-30 Thread kphinney
brucegrr;223830 Wrote: The Rca jacks are outputs for a subwoofer What model Audioengine do you have? -- kphinney SB3 Rotel RCD-1070 CIAudio DVA-2 w/ VAC-1 PS JoLida 102B Omega Grand 6's PowerMac Zhaolu D2.5 with headphone amp mod. AKG K501

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB digital out level ?

2007-08-30 Thread krzys
I'm wondering if other members have the same problem. The digital out signal level from my SB is much much weaker than from any cd player I compared. The comparison is done at display at the entry of the DAC (Behringer DCX) Since the DCX needs to be feed with a strong signal it makes a problem

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Beating a dead horse: choosing SPDIF cables

2007-08-30 Thread Videodrome
I've had good results with DH Labs' 75 ohm cable (called D-75). You can order it many place pre-terminated, or in bulk from Parts Connexion and DIY. Be sure to order the corresponding 75 ohm connectors. It's a great cable for a great price and it's easy to terminate:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audio Problem

2007-08-30 Thread brucegrr
I have the A-5W speakers. I bought them in June -- brucegrr brucegrr's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3964 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=38015

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB digital out level ?

2007-08-30 Thread seanadams
I'm not sure if you're askking about the amplitude of the _s/pdif signal_, or the amplitude of the _audio information_ which is digitally encoded therein. Are you clear on the difference? What are the symptoms - is the audio quiet, or is there no audio at all? The electrical amplitude of the

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Beating a dead horse: choosing SPDIF cables

2007-08-30 Thread adamslim
My general policy on cables is to come up with a really good reason why well terminated decent cables won't do the job. When I can't, I buy http://www.bluejeanscable.com/store/digital-audio/index.htm They are cheap and work. Spending loads and trying to listen for the difference will only make

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB digital out level ?

2007-08-30 Thread Eric Seaberg
Also, double-check that you don't have your volume control doing ANYTHING to the digital output. The player settings have a page for this under AUDIO:DIGITAL OUTPUT LEVEL IS FIXED. Also take into consideration that there could be level differences with the files SlimServer is playing, i.e. did

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB digital out level ?

2007-08-30 Thread krzys
I'm honored to get the answer directly from you. I will try to be clear: the behringer DCX needs a strong i.e. not attenuated signal in order to keep its resolution (it is made for pro use in the first time but accepts SPDIF to). The digital signal from the SB is much weaker than the signal

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB digital out level ?

2007-08-30 Thread krzys
Eric Seaberg;223893 Wrote: Also, double-check that you don't have your volume control doing ANYTHING to the digital output. The player settings have a page for this under AUDIO:DIGITAL OUTPUT LEVEL IS FIXED. Also take into consideration that there could be level differences with the

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Amp shutdown when power cycling Transporter

2007-08-30 Thread Heimiko
When I power cycle my TP (again, cause of the input bug, nasty little one) there's a power spike through my speakers (not really pleasant), this could be causing your power amp to go into this protective mode. -- Heimiko Transporter - XLR - Electrocompaniet ECI-3 - Dynaudio Audience 122 + BK

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Beating a dead horse: choosing SPDIF cables

2007-08-30 Thread 325xi
mvalera;223740 Wrote: Maybe I'm asking a dumb question... but how can you pick up radio frequeny - electromagnetic interference on an optical cable using light to transmit the data? I don't know - perhaps you just can't. :) But the original Q was about coax SPDIF, not Toslink. -- 325xi

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Beating a dead horse: choosing SPDIF cables

2007-08-30 Thread 325xi
Pat Farrell;223749 Wrote: ... But if the DAC is properly isolating the Digital from the Analog side, you should have a problem. The 172Kb/s on off stream doesn't modulate into anything audible by humans. Hmm... We're talking digital signal, right? Can EMI/RF smear the edges and thus

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Beating a dead horse: choosing SPDIF cables

2007-08-30 Thread 325xi
adamslim;223890 Wrote: My general policy on cables is to come up with a really good reason why well terminated decent cables won't do the job. That's discussed to death in lamp cord threads - not all cables are manufactured to specification, and not all wire manufacturers offer consistent

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB digital out level ?

2007-08-30 Thread seanadams
krzys;223905 Wrote: The digital signal from the SB is much weaker than the signal from a cd player and I mean full volume no repalygain etc. No it's not. It's EXACTLY the level of whatever file you're playing. Not only is the level the same, but every single bit of data is numerically

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Beating a dead horse: choosing SPDIF cables

2007-08-30 Thread Pat Farrell
325xi wrote: Pat Farrell;223749 Wrote: ... But if the DAC is properly isolating the Digital from the Analog side, you should have a problem. The 172Kb/s on off stream doesn't modulate into anything audible by humans. Hmm... We're talking digital signal, right? Can EMI/RF smear the edges

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB digital out level ?

2007-08-30 Thread krzys
Sean, I understand you very clearly, the theoretical point is there. As I said max level, no replaygain and no processing. But when I feed my system from the PC sound card or from cd player used as transport playing the same file, the level is higher than from the SB. Is it possible that my SB

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Beating a dead horse: choosing SPDIF cables

2007-08-30 Thread 325xi
Pat Farrell;223925 Wrote: If jitter is a problem with your target DAC. Pat Farrell;223925 Wrote: Because things like Benchmarks and Larvys are not going to notice, but they cost a grand. First, with Lavry people reported here that sound varies with different sources. We all also know

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audio Problem

2007-08-30 Thread kphinney
brucegrr;223880 Wrote: I have the A-5W speakers. I bought them in June Okay - the 1st input is in the rear while the 2nd is on the top. Do they both exhibit the same problem? -- kphinney SB3 Rotel RCD-1070 CIAudio DVA-2 w/ VAC-1 PS JoLida 102B Omega Grand 6's PowerMac Zhaolu D2.5 with

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB digital out level ?

2007-08-30 Thread opaqueice
krzys;223930 Wrote: Sean, I understand you very clearly, the theoretical point is there. As I said max level, no replaygain and no processing. But when I feed my system from the PC sound card or from cd player used as transport playing the same file, the level is higher than from the SB.

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Lossless Downloads

2007-08-30 Thread 325xi
Just placed another order at cdbaby.com - they got some nice solo piano pieces, and send them an email if they're planning to offer lossless downloads. They replied enthusiastically that they just started to offer non DRM-ed downloads... which of course happened to be MP3. I wrote back

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Lossless Downloads

2007-08-30 Thread truckfighters
right on ! -- truckfighters | Transporter | REDGUM RGASil OCC Silver Interconnects | REDGUM RGi120ENR AMP | REDGUM LS Cable | BW Nautilus 802 D | Live musicians at the end of my room! truckfighters's Profile:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audio Problem

2007-08-30 Thread brucegrr
Kphinney, Yes both inputs do the same thing -- brucegrr brucegrr's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3964 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=38015

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB digital out level ?

2007-08-30 Thread seanadams
krzys;223930 Wrote: Sean, I understand you very clearly, the theoretical point is there. As I said max level, no replaygain and no processing. But when I feed my system from the PC sound card or from cd player used as transport playing the same file, the level is higher than from the SB.

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB digital out level ?

2007-08-30 Thread Phil Leigh
Chris - I've got to agree with Mr O et al... These files you are trying...are they FLAC? How were they ripped? It is almost impossible that a fault on the SB could cause reduced output for the reasons that Mr O. explained. So if you are sure there is no digital volume reduction active on

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audio Problem

2007-08-30 Thread Phil Leigh
Sounds like you have an intermittent connection or faulty socket on the speaker that keeps cutting out. (so its not the SB or the cables) -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... ...SB3+TACT+Altmann+MF DACXV3/Linn

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB digital out level ?

2007-08-30 Thread Grahame
krzys, As an outside observer, I would agree with the previous posters. Essentially for a fixed system, the same input should yield the same output, but you are implying this is not the case. So, logically, if what you are saying is true - the output is not the same. Then, 1) Is the input

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audio Problem

2007-08-30 Thread brucegrr
I went to Monoprice and ordered some new cables just to be safe. I tend to keep cables and I throw them in a big tub. It is possible I got two bad cables. So I will change the mouth and it I still have the problem I will call Audio Engine Thank you for all the help -- brucegrr

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Beating a dead horse: choosing SPDIF cables

2007-08-30 Thread ErikM
True 75 ohm cable, with very high quality Mil Spec wire, sounds great. Why not try it and some others cables?? Best way to know what sounds the best is to listen. Although I realize that isn't always the prefered method around here. http://www.fatwyre.com 325xi;223726 Wrote: Why to pay $150?

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Beating a dead horse: choosing SPDIF cables

2007-08-30 Thread 325xi
With all my due respect, this is a marketing BS. When I asked why I asked for technical reasons. As for listening to digital cables, it's like letting a blind man into a maze, and trying to make rational decisions based on his movements. -- 325xi

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Beating a dead horse: choosing SPDIF cables

2007-08-30 Thread adamslim
325xi;223922 Wrote: That's discussed to death in lamp cord threads - not all cables are manufactured to specification, and not all wire manufacturers offer consistent quality from batch to batch. I didn't suggest lamp cord - the Blue Jeans cables are good quality wire, the correct

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Beating a dead horse: choosing SPDIF cables

2007-08-30 Thread 325xi
adamslim;223992 Wrote: I didn't suggest lamp cord My apologies if I was unclear - I by no means called Blue Jeans a lamp cord. I'm not sure they are perfect for analog conections (it's just I'm not convinced that cable geometry doesn't matter at all, and what they offer is very straight

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Threads Deteriorating into Debates

2007-08-30 Thread Phil Leigh
Well, the problem is we are asking for peoples opinions... There is no truth - so what exactly do we expect? :o) -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... ...SB3+TACT+Altmann+MF DACXV3/Linn tri-amped Aktiv 5.1 system

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Threads Deteriorating into Debates

2007-08-30 Thread opaqueice
Yeah, I think there's something intrinsic in online fora that leads to that. I guess it's the anonymity coupled with the lack of communication that comes with pure text - in a real conversation there are a million non-verbal cues that tell you when you've gone too far, or that indicate irony or

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Threads Deteriorating into Debates

2007-08-30 Thread Videodrome
I am, admittedly, pretty new around here. So if you like, you can take what I'm about to say with a grain of salt ... What is it about audiophiles and/or some of the folks on this forum that seem to turn every thread into a debate or a tangential rant where people invariably pit their audio

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB digital out level ?

2007-08-30 Thread SuperQ
krzys;223868 Wrote: I'm wondering if other members have the same problem. The digital out signal level from my SB is much much weaker than from any cd player I compared. The comparison is done at display at the entry of the DAC (Behringer DCX) Since the DCX needs to be feed with a strong

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Blind Test: SB3 with linear PS vs CDP

2007-08-30 Thread andy74
hi all, Sorry for off-topic, but how @[EMAIL PROTECTED] do you tell a linear psu from switching psu by the looks of it. Both types could say regulated, right. what exactly in this url is indicating that it is linear.

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Threads Deteriorating into Debates

2007-08-30 Thread Grahame
I don't think that this behavior is unique to the more intelligent, better looking folks (;)) that post here see Argument and Debate on Usenet http://www.csd.uwo.ca/~magi/personal/humour/Computer_Audience/Argument%20and%20Debate%20on%20USENET.html Flame wars on Wikipedia

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Blind Test: SB3 with linear PS vs CDP

2007-08-30 Thread crooner
You can tell by weight. The crappy switching types are very lightweight. No power transformer. A linear PS will have an internal iron core power transformer and those are quite heavy, specially if they are rated at 2 amps or more. I favor medical/industrial open frame linear power supplies to

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Blind Test: SB3 with linear PS vs CDP

2007-08-30 Thread ezkcdude
I think it's funny (sad?) that people spend countless hours debating the topic of DBT related to digital sources, when the differences, whatever they may be, pale in comparison to simply getting better speakers (and maybe even amplifiers). Take the $1000 you're going to spend on a fancy DAC or CD

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Threads Deteriorating into Debates

2007-08-30 Thread ezkcdude
Phil Leigh;224035 Wrote: Well, the problem is we are asking for peoples opinions... There is no truth - so what exactly do we expect? :o) Maybe it would help if more people understood the difference between *objective* and *subjective* measurement. Is that asking too much from this group?

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Threads Deteriorating into Debates

2007-08-30 Thread shyster
The problem is as old as Usenet but is particularly bad here because people who come from the computer side and people who come from the audio side can have radically different assumptions about electronics. People who think that bits is bits will never agree with people who think that it makes a

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Threads Deteriorating into Debates

2007-08-30 Thread tomjtx
Quote, (Full disclosure: I prop my speaker cables on styrofoam. Does it make a difference? I dunno.) I prop my cables on hot naked women. Does it make a difference? Damn right it does. Don't know if it sounds better. And there is NO WAY I 'm doing a blind test on that one :-) -- tomjtx

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Blind Test: SB3 with linear PS vs CDP

2007-08-30 Thread crooner
That's true. I get better sound from my modded SB2 and DAC than some systems I see with a Transporter and sub par speakers and amplification! -- crooner Customized dual chassis Super Squeezebox EAD DSP-7000 Series III DAC with HDCD and mods. VPI Scout with Benz Micro Glider M2 Audio Research

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Threads Deteriorating into Debates

2007-08-30 Thread mlsstl
I prop my cables on hot naked women. Does it make a difference? Damn right it does. Blondes or brunettes? I find the brunettes darker sounding... -- mlsstl mlsstl's Profile:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Threads Deteriorating into Debates

2007-08-30 Thread tomjtx
mlsstl;224055 Wrote: I prop my cables on hot naked women. Does it make a difference? Damn right it does. Blondes or brunettes? I find the brunettes darker sounding... Blonde on one side, brunette on the other, but that's because my amp is balanced -- tomjtx

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB digital out level ?

2007-08-30 Thread Robin Bowes
SuperQ wrote: krzys;223868 Wrote: I'm wondering if other members have the same problem. The digital out signal level from my SB is much much weaker than from any cd player I compared. The comparison is done at display at the entry of the DAC (Behringer DCX) Since the DCX needs to be feed

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Empirical Audio Pace-Car Reclocker

2007-08-30 Thread DCtoDaylight
I was refering to: eiret;223781 Wrote: They clame that the Benchmark DAC1 USB dont have any jitter at all which we both seem to agree is impossible. I didn't check if the Benchmark web site actually states this, or if this is a misquote, but my point still stands, ALL dac's have jitter of

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Amp shutdown when power cycling Transporter

2007-08-30 Thread seanadams
I'm not sure if there is an easy solution here, but here's a question: do you have Transporter's volume turned way down during normal listening with this setup? If so that is a bad idea for a lot of reasons - you should be using some fixed analog attenuation to bring the level down to to your

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB digital out level ?

2007-08-30 Thread Eric Seaberg
I've got a Transporter as well as 2-SB3s running into digital inputs and their levels are all comparable to any CD digital output. The big difference for me is how I rip the CD. I use a program called 'iVolume' that changes the volume of ripped tracks, keeping them consistent from album-to-album

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Empirical Audio Pace-Car Reclocker

2007-08-30 Thread eiret
DCtoDaylight;224074 Wrote: I was refering to: which we both seem to agree is impossible. I didn't check if the Benchmark web site actually states this, or if this is a misquote, but my point still stands, ALL dac's have jitter of differing degrees. Cheers, Dave Sorry it is a MISQUOTE.