Phil Leigh;623392 Wrote:
I get the analogy... I'd like more info from JS on how he measured and
what he measured.
In particular, what PSU was being used and did he measure jitter
changing on the s/pdif (I can see how the buffer-driven processing
activity can impact the analogue outs).
I
Just received sbooster, made only one listening session through speakers
(analog out from touch). First impression very positive, to my ears the
sound is warmer, cant tell about any detail loss at the moment. I don't
trust in A/B blind test, i will make some more listening of well know
flac24
I have no idea what has happened, but now I do get the Inguz sweep etc
menus appearing on the Touch under Extras! (this is with XP sp3 and SBS
7.6)
I haven't changed anything...
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Phil Leigh
You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it
ain't what you'd call minimal...
JezA;623429 Wrote:
adamdea - I think the Linn measurements are in response to Stereophile's
measurements, so it's probably worth reading those as well to get the
context. I think John Atkinsons measurements show a jitter component at
200Hz, and Linn's response addresses this.
Thanks, will
Phil Leigh;623630 Wrote:
I have no idea what has happened, but now I do get the Inguz sweep etc
menus appearing on the Touch under Extras! (this is with XP sp3 and SBS
7.6)
I haven't changed anything...
Sounds like whjat happened to me on Friday but reversed.
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johann
JohnSwenson;623622 Wrote:
I can't measure jitter on the S/PDIF, the signal is too complex for my
test equipment. I can only measure jitter on something simple like a
clock. Unfortunately the jitter of the Touch is just below the jitter
threshold of my test gear so I can't give direct
adamdea;623635 Wrote:
So what you have established is that the longer buffer causes a
different sort of power supply noise than the shorter buffer and that
a. this may cause more(/different pattern of?) jitter in the touch
clock, which
b. may cause more (ditto) jitter at the S/PDIF out,
Just bringing this slightly back on topic :-)
Has anyone had the cahnce to compare a Touch digital output with the
digital out from a Patrick Dixon SB+? Currently feeding my SB+ into a
Naim DAC with fantastic results but obviously wonder about the Touch
and 24/96
Cheers
Andrew
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Hi everybody,
I have been playing around with various power supplies for my SBT in
recent weeks, and thought I'd share my experiences here.
(My setup is a pretty revealing one, bordering on the analytical, but
still musical enough: SBT fed via Ethernet from a WLAN bridge. All
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johann;623634 Wrote:
Sounds like whjat happened to me on Friday but reversed.
yeah - strange... ghosts in the machine...
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Phil Leigh
You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it
ain't what you'd call minimal...
Touch(wired/XP) - Audiolense 3.3/2.0+INGUZ DRC - MF M1
I went to a local high end gear store just for this purpose several
years back. We listened to a mid-range analog front end and a probably
little better than midrange digital setup through Krell monoblocks and
Apogee speakers - yep, been a while ago, digital has probably improved
more since then
brjoon1021;623698 Wrote:
Knowing recordings in a stable controlled environment is key. Double
blind studies are total BS because a sh*tty MP3 of low quality
reproduces enough information to sound like a CD when you are listening
to popular music (especially) over a system you are unfamiliar
I was advocating just that.
However, nobody has presented any data done just that way. At least
when I was embroiled in an argument with the MP3-is-just-as-the-CD
advocate nothing like that was referenced by him. The studies he
referred me to were clinical settings where the environment and the
brjoon1021;623711 Wrote:
Even if the analog digital question could not be adequately addressed,
this familiar recording over a familiar system would put to death the
Mp3 sounds just like the CD camp's arguments I would bet.
That's the point of science. We can test such things without relying
adamdea;623635 Wrote:
So what you have established is that the longer buffer causes a
different sort of power supply noise than the shorter buffer and that
a. this may cause more(/different pattern of?) jitter in the touch
clock, which
b. may cause more (ditto) jitter at the S/PDIF out,
The biggest factor in how a particular sound is perceived, is governed
by the experience of irritation or annoyance. Less irritation is
why tubes and vinyl are so popular. Our music enjoyment mood is
ruined by irritating aspects of the sound. I would be willing to bet
that a flat 20hz to 20khz
I like this site. I kind of shows how a brick wall looks, vs. a less
linear approach. The ring characteristics associated with filters are
also fascinating.
http://src.infinitewave.ca/
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earwaxer9
System: modified Winsome Labs Mouse, modified Maggie MMG's, Transporter,
HSU sub 12, MSB DAC
vpnogueira;622740 Wrote:
Dear Walt Shields,
I have an EMM Labs DCC2 SE, and after reading your posts, I would very
much appreciate your comments about the sound of the DCC2 feeding the
clock to the Transporter. If you prefer other alternatives (not
Transporter) to feed the DAC, feel
Double blind studies are total BS because a sh*tty MP3 of low quality
reproduces enough information to sound like a CD when you are listening
to popular music (especially) over a system you are unfamiliar with and
music you are unfamiliar with. I argued over and over with a guy who is
a big
Eh it has been proven before that you can record a vinyl with a digital
rig and then nobody can tell the difference, it sounds just like the
vinyl ( - acoustical feedback ? so it can be slightly better ) so it is
an sound effect inherent in the format one may prefer that or not, but
it is not
Hi guys.
A guy at DIY-Audio is reporting after a 7.5.4. update poorer
performance of the device.
Before 7.5.4. he was able to run buffersize 4000, now he's up to 4700.
Anybody over here made similar experiences?
Cheers
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