darrell;685386 Wrote:
> I am reminded by the references in this thread to the (alleged)
> Almighty, of someone I worked with many years ago, who thought that the
> beauty of Microsoft Windows was proof of the existence of God. And that
> was Windows 98!
Talking about low expextations :) One thin
pandasharka;685326 Wrote:
> Well done - this is a discussion forum. Made up of hundreds of threads
> where people swap information, experience, hints tips and advice etc.
>
> This thread like the rest discusses a specific topic - you've clearly
> been having trouble for weeks understanding that
My experience with lossy files is that they sound better with:
a better DAC;
a tube buffer or some type of tube amplification. The tube sound makes
the lossy files sound a little more like the "real thing".
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Vortexbox
In the uk we call such a device "BBC FM" :-)
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You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it
ain't what you'd call minimal...
Touch(wired/W7)+Teddy Pardo PSU - Audiolense 3.3/2.0+INGUZ DRC - MF M1
DAC - Linn 5103 - full Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's,
ESPEK/TRIK
No lossy compression works by throwing away information it is lost
forever :-/
Try tomfind hogher bitrate station :)
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Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x
MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP
No, there is no magic box. Garbage in, Garbage out.
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rgro;685340 Wrote:
> But, ralphpnj, aren't you just circling back to the same old argument,
> here?
> And, while I agree with you (and mcr, for that matter) in principle,
> who's the arbiter of what's "better sound"?
>
> < snip > ;)
a very positive worldview thankyou for that, I agre with th
pippin;684865 Wrote:
>
>
> So it's part of the everyday experience that the audible experience is
> biased and modified by the situation. W
yep!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYTlN6wjcvQ
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Vortexbox>SBT(TT 3.0)>>Forssell MDAC-2>>>Klein and Hummell 0300D
Sota Sapphire/Lyra K
[image: http://woozers.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/facepalm_4.jpg]
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Vortexbox>SBT(TT 3.0)>>Forssell MDAC-2>>>Klein and Hummell 0300D
Sota Sapphire/Lyra Kleos>>Bespoke Valve Phono Stage>>Mastersound Due
Venti>>Link Audio K100
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magiccarpetride;685370 Wrote:
> (i.e. getting the source, the amplification, speakers, interconnects
> and cables)
NO.
the only things that can possibly matter here(and we are talking within
the limits of human hearing)
the room acoustics
the source(ie the MUSIC being played)
the loudspea
Paul is a digital audio expert and DSP mastermind. I often ask him for
advice/information.
His Bio is here. http://www.proaudiodsp.com/
Paul Frindle - Product Design
Paul Frindle has 35 years' experience in the pro audio and music
industries. He has worked as a studio engineer in Oxford and Pa
Phil Leigh;685211 Wrote:
> Apologies - it wasn't a criticism, just an observation!
> Phil
not a problem Sir! Glad to see you around here again! Breath of fresh
air(IMO!)
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Vortexbox>SBT(TT 3.0)>>Forssell MDAC-2>>>Klein and Hummell 0300D
Sota Sapphire/Lyra Kleos>>Bespoke Valve P
magiccarpetride;685328 Wrote:
> Klaus just called and told me how much he appreciates the hand job
> you're giving him. Keep up the good handiwork;)
Sigh...you're sinking to a new low of classless immaturity. Too wrapped
up in mental masturbation I guess.
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evdplancke;685390 Wrote:
> Now listening to factory SBT while writing and still enjoying music
> soundstage, details, tonal balance and so on.
> This will hopefully put an end for me to the nightmare of the endless
> (and sleepless) tweaking quest of the holy graal of the perfect sound
> and fin
Effects of priorities might be interesting to test as you go on at 20k.
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Joel
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Side by side testing:
A- SBooster BOTW - SBT - TT3.0 - default prio buffer 20k - modified
Draka Ethernet
B- factory SBT - factory PSU - low cost Ethernet cable
both synced, connected to D-Link ethernet switch, digital out to V-DAC
2, LMS 7.7.0 with FLAC decoding on server.
Very instructive to swit
The thing is, what you're talking about is completely psychosomatic.
The tipping point is only in your head. The reason it's called the
"law of diminishing marginal returns" is because that's how the world
works. There is no tipping point. There is no breakthrough. It's all
in your head.
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Plank;685383 Wrote:
> Forgive me for a newbie question. I am addicted to internet radio (Live
> 365 etc.) but the sound quality (low bit rates) is not always the
> greatest. I have a Squeezebox touch connected to an old Yamaha
> receiver. Is there any box or something that I can add to make
>
I am reminded by the references in this thread to the (alleged)
Almighty, of someone I worked with many years ago, who thought that the
beauty of Microsoft Windows was proof of the existence of God. And that
was Windows 98!
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magiccarpetride;684838 Wrote:
>
> The question is: is that ability to hear and discern various
> instruments an illusion? Is it something that our brains get tricked
> into fabricating in our head (similar to how they get tricked into
> fabricating the spatial positioning of the instruments)
Sh
Forgive me for a newbie question. I am addicted to internet radio (Live
365 etc.) but the sound quality (low bit rates) is not always the
greatest. I have a Squeezebox touch connected to an old Yamaha
receiver. Is there any box or something that I can add to make
internet radio sound better? K
Ron Olsen;685381 Wrote:
> http://www.totallyfreecursors.com/details.cfm/id/1876/Bang_Head.htm
>
> It's a cousin of facepalm:
> http://i0.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/000/554/facepalm.jpg
Excellent! The images are appropriate for both mcr and for those of us
unfortunate to read what mc
ralphpnj;685375 Wrote:
> WTF does banghead mean?
http://www.totallyfreecursors.com/details.cfm/id/1876/Bang_Head.htm
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magiccarpetride;684820 Wrote:
> I'm not selling anything. Also, I'm not impressed with your credentials,
> as I happen to have a PhD in scientific research. I could probably teach
> you a thing or two about the proper way to approach any area of
> scientific research. I say 'probably' because tea
Sorry to butt in...
I'm just going along reading the posts, taking what interests me and
leaving the rest.
I don't understand what everybody seems so uptight about and I can only
guess what half the implied accusations/insinuations are really driving
at.
I agree that some people(including mysel
magiccarpetride;685376 Wrote:
> Fcuking awesome!
And true as well!
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Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels -> Snatch -> The Transporter ->
Transporter 2 (oops) -> Touch
'Last.fm' (http://www.last.fm/user/jazzfann/)
ralphpnj;685372 Wrote:
> Like MCR's song says:
>
> "I like to dream, yes, yes
> Right between the sound machine
> On a cloud of sound I drift in the night
> Any place it goes is right
> Goes far, flies near
> To the stars away from here
>
> Well, you don't know what
> We can find
> Why don't yo
ghostrider;685374 Wrote:
> :banghead:
WTF does banghead mean?
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Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels -> Snatch -> The Transporter ->
Transporter 2 (oops) -> Touch
'Last.fm' (http://www.last.fm/user/jazzfann/)
:banghead:
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a
Like MCR's song says:
"I like to dream, yes, yes
Right between the sound machine
On a cloud of sound I drift in the night
Any place it goes is right
Goes far, flies near
To the stars away from here
Well, you don't know what
We can find
Why don't you come with me little girl
On a magic carpet rid
magiccarpetride;685370 Wrote:
> We're all familiar with the theory of reaching a point of diminishing
> returns. According to this theory, time, effort and money spent on
> improving something may initially yield obvious, detectable and
> palpable results, however there comes a point where invest
We're all familiar with the theory of reaching a point of diminishing
returns. According to this theory, time, effort and money spent on
improving something may initially yield obvious, detectable and
palpable results, however there comes a point where investing more
time, effort and money stops m
ralphpnj;685360 Wrote:
> Off topic:
>
> RG, do you also scan any of the cover art and booklets that come with
> CD before you send it off to the basement? If so then I suggest that
> you have look at muso (http://klarita.net/muso.html). It is the first
> SB player that I've found that supports d
magiccarpetride;685361 Wrote:
> How many drops of snake oil should I put in there?
H2O2 is the active ingredient in many expensive products.
"Just 'nuf to keep swishin' around and that don't turn all to foam
right away.."
You can't use too much unless the foam makes you swallow.
It is a pecul
pski;685357 Wrote:
> If you want to whiten your teeth, just use brown bottle hydrogen
> peroxide for a minute and a half each morning. Don't swallow. If you
> aren't happy with a cold water rinse, use a dash of mouthwash.
>
> H2O2 seems very effective on dental plaque as well.
>
> P
How many d
rgro;685354 Wrote:
> I still have one of them thar CD player thangs, but it hasn't seen a CD
> in many, many months. Any CD I buy (and I do still buy them) is
> immediately ripped onto the Vortexbox and then sent to the basement
> archive to live in darkness for the rest of its days.
Off topic:
magiccarpetride;685327 Wrote:
> Welcome to the real world. Manufacturers claim all kinds of outlandish
> things, and most of these things cannot ever be proven to work.
>
> I've tried whitening my teeth following the manufacturer's claims.
> Guess what -- didn't work for me. I once injured my lo
ralphpnj;685343 Wrote:
> Thank you MCR & RG for your very sensible responses. As much as I may
> regret saying it you are both right (I don't mean that I have anything
> against either you being right, rather that I just don't like the fact
> that the content of your statements is correct).
>
>
The very best way to improve the sound of ANY Squeezebox Touch is to use
better loudspeakers.
Just my $0.02
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Thank you MCR & RG for your very sensible responses. As much as I may
regret saying it you are both right (I don't mean that I have anything
against either you being right, rather that I just don't like the fact
that the content of your statements is correct).
Now let's have some fun and games:
ralphpnj;685309 Wrote:
> As I stated in my prior post I have no problem with the manufacturers
> doing this but this is not what they claim nor is it how they "eye
> candy" is marketed. They claim that their products are more than just
> "eye candy" and that their product sound better than lower
NoRoDa;684947 Wrote:
> Factory SBT vs my TT3.0 SBT in the same system, side by side.
> Shorter time between factory and TT3.0 than with tt -r and tt -i, tt
> -v, tt -k and all the restart in between.
>
> System:
> ML 383
> ML 390S
> Audio Physics Virgo 5
>
> Any difference?
Well, yes, there
pandasharka;685326 Wrote:
> Well done - this is a discussion forum. Made up of hundreds of threads
> where people swap information, experience, hints tips and advice etc.
>
> This thread like the rest discusses a specific topic - you've clearly
> been having trouble for weeks understanding that
ralphpnj;685305 Wrote:
> I beg to differ. If it was clearly stated by the manufacturers that all
> one was getting for one's money was a device which was sonically
> equivalent to a $300 SB Touch but which was flashy and nicely packaged
> then I would not have a problem. But this is not what thes
magiccarpetride;685290 Wrote:
> What part of the 'discussion forum' do you not understand? This is the
> forum for discussing audiophile-related stuff. Which is what we're
> doing here. You seem to have serious issues with this fact. Time to
> turn your back on all this and leave for greener past
ralphpnj;685297 Wrote:
> I know that, you know that and many other members of this forum know
> that but what I'm really asking is can it shown that "the flashy,
> nicely packaged, super-expensive stuff in that CES article" is just a
> blatant attempt by these manufacturers to rip off their custo
Ron Olsen;685306 Wrote:
> No. They are giving their customers what they want: expensive eye candy,
> pride of ownership, bragging rights. Their customers are not interested
> in low-cost equipment that works well.
As I stated in my prior post I have no problem with the manufacturers
doing this b
ralphpnj;685297 Wrote:
> I know that, you know that and many other members of this forum know
> that but what I'm really asking is can it shown that "the flashy,
> nicely packaged, super-expensive stuff in that CES article" is just a
> blatant attempt by these manufacturers to rip off their custo
magiccarpetride;685299 Wrote:
> I think the keyword is 'flashy, nicely packaged'. If that matters to me,
> why would that fact tie you up in a knot? What's it to you that I'm okay
> with spending 20 times more than you've spend on SBT? It's my business,
> nothing to see here people, move on.
I b
SBGK;685122 Wrote:
> why don't you give me back the 3 weeks of my life spent tweaking your
> *cock sucking priorities* and buffer sizes. only to find they were a
> waste of time.
>
> and yet again your suggestions were wrong.
>
> you wanted feedback , there you go, stick to what you are good at
praganj;685294 Wrote:
> The TT 3.0 thread was hijacked by SBGK :)
>
> I think we should discuss here about TT 3.0 and not about everything
> else. I suggested it few pages ago, nobody cares... ;)
Soundcheck inaugurated this thread with the following statement:
"Looking forward to your construc
ralphpnj;685297 Wrote:
> I know that, you know that and many other members of this forum know
> that but what I'm really asking is can it shown that "the flashy,
> nicely packaged, super-expensive stuff in that CES article" is just a
> blatant attempt by these manufacturers to rip off their custo
castalla;685296 Wrote:
> - quote
>
> T+As new Music Player ($4400 plus $350 for preamp module) can be used
> as a CD player or media player. Supporting 192/24 via all digital
> inputs, with five S/PDIF inputs in addition to its WLAN, LAN, and USB
> inputs, the UPnP-compliant Music Player even i
Archimago;685191 Wrote:
> Nice response MCP. I like how you eloquently described your position
> and I certainly respect anyone's decision around something as
> insignificant as cable preference (compared to all the major decisions
> we make in life).
>
> However, I do differ from your opinion
Ron Olsen;685295 Wrote:
> SqueezeBox player for music. WD TV, Boxee Box, or Apple TV 2 for video.
>
> No need to buy the flashy, nicely packaged, super-expensive stuff in
> that CES article.
I know that, you know that and many other members of this forum know
that but what I'm really asking is
- quote
T+As new Music Player ($4400 plus $350 for preamp module) can be used
as a CD player or media player. Supporting 192/24 via all digital
inputs, with five S/PDIF inputs in addition to its WLAN, LAN, and USB
inputs, the UPnP-compliant Music Player even includes a digital FM
tuner.
- unquo
The TT 3.0 thread was hijacked by SBGK :)
I think we should discuss here about TT 3.0 and not about everything
else. I suggested it few pages ago, nobody cares... ;)
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SqueezeBox player for music. WD TV, Boxee Box, or Apple TV 2 for video.
No need to buy the flashy, nicely-packaged, super-expensive stuff in
that CES article.
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One of the reasons that I decided to start this thread is to hopefully
be able to use the information posted in this thread as way to fight
back against the overpriced BS the continually spews from so many high
end audio manufacturers.
Check out the link below for what I think is going to be the
jfo;685192 Wrote:
> Spoken like a well practised troll. Of all the urges I might have, this
> is truly not one of them, so you can rest easy on the state of my life.
> At some point early on though, I did try to give you the benefit of the
> doubt.
Stop obsessing about me, you're weirding me out
pandasharka;685117 Wrote:
> Despite the fact this thread is at least 100 pages longer than it ought
> to be, SBGK you clearly don't read clearly or have trouble
> comprehending.
>
> May I refer you to the request made earlier today by Soundcheck?
>
> Have another read. If you need any assista
Nah keep thier length, my advice was a more general, " normal " speaker
cable delivered with some systems has to tiny cross section and are
often very long for no reason at all, and you speakers are also not one
of those with absurd impedance variantions.
ok for very long cables consider even lar
tank121;685250 Wrote:
> Should I be looking to cut down my Chord rumour cables then ?
>
> Originally I purchased sufficent amount for it to go into the new false
> wall but the layout changed ?
>
> I think I have 2x3m or even 4m and only probably need 2m at the very
> maximum.
>
> Will it real
Should I be looking to cut down my Chord rumour cables then ?
Originally I purchased sufficent amount for it to go into the new false
wall but the layout changed ?
I think I have 2x3m or even 4m and only probably need 2m at the very
maximum.
Will it really make a difference ?
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Squ
Mnyb;684935 Wrote:
> Then I have to buy pro products despite the ugly utilitarian design and
> rack handles and large backlit
> buttons etc .
> Hey that migth be much cheaper :)
Yes, If the SQ/$ rate is what's important, I'm pretty certain that pro
or even semi-pro gear is the way to go.
(Hey,
TheOctavist;685207 Wrote:
> no, acoustically treating the room will.
>
> Promise. :)
>
> www.gikacoustics.com
>
> www.realtraps.com
>
> http://www.johnlsayers.com/phpBB2/viewforum.php?f=3
Agreed. Assuming you have adequate amplification, the upgrade path
should be:
Room treatment and/or roo
TheOctavist;685110 Wrote:
> Adam was asking for books, I suggested some.
>
> practical experience= grand
>
> books/learning academically= grand
>
> combining book sense AND practical experience= superior. :)
Apologies - it wasn't a criticism, just an observation!
Phil
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