Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] FUD, intellectual honesty, digital facts, and the TAS articles...

2012-02-11 Thread Phil Leigh
TheOctavist;690004 Wrote: mr phil... here are two of my earliest recordings, as an apprentice rec/balance engineer in germany.the haydn.. http://www.theresia-aranowski.de/hoerbeispiele.html just blumlein. akg 426. dav(drsigned by ex decca engineer mick hinton) mic preamps

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] FUD, intellectual honesty, digital facts, and the TAS articles...

2012-02-11 Thread Phil Leigh
ralphpnj;690007 Wrote: First I'm honored that one of my many endless rants helped to inspire this thread. Second perhaps we should get going over in the music section on the best covers of Bob Dylan songs. The new Chimes of Freedom collection gets a high vote just on volume alone. I'm

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Beatles, Pink Floyd Engineer Alan Parsons Rips Audiophiles

2012-02-11 Thread firedog
Let's see: 1) audiophiles over pay for equipment (often based on looks) and forget that a proper acoustic environment is probably more important to getting good sound. IMO, that's about as true as something can be. How many audiophiles will spend thousands upgrading hardware, yet won't buy a

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] FUD, intellectual honesty, digital facts, and the TAS articles...

2012-02-11 Thread Mnyb
Phil Leigh;690081 Wrote: This didn't quite come out as I intended... I didn't mean the musical elements such as melody, orchestration etc... I meant the sound/timbre of the performance. Anyone can appreciate both aspects... But making judgements Bout the accuracy of the sound reproduction

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] FUD, intellectual honesty, digital facts, and the TAS articles...

2012-02-11 Thread Mnyb
TheOctavist;690004 Wrote: mr phil... here are two of my earliest recordings, as an apprentice rec/balance engineer in germany.the haydn.. http://www.theresia-aranowski.de/hoerbeispiele.html just blumlein. akg 426. dav(drsigned by ex decca engineer mick hinton) mic preamps

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Beatles, Pink Floyd Engineer Alan Parsons Rips Audiophiles

2012-02-11 Thread Mnyb
Interesting article . I'm partly as surprised as him about why multichannel music has not gone anywhere . If you remove the voodoo overhead on the hifi and replace it with stuff that makes a sq difference but contains no voodoo, you can have good multichannel and save some . A guess it is the

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] FUD, intellectual honesty, digital facts, and the TAS articles...

2012-02-11 Thread cunobelinus
On 10 Feb 2012, at 22:42, TheOctavist wrote: mr phil... here are two of my earliest recordings, as an apprentice rec/balance engineer in germany.the haydn.. http://www.theresia-aranowski.de/hoerbeispiele.html just blumlein. akg 426. dav(drsigned by ex decca engineer mick

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Beatles, Pink Floyd Engineer Alan Parsons Rips Audiophiles

2012-02-11 Thread TheOctavist
I agree with him. -- TheOctavist VortexboxSBT(stock(TT failed dbt)Forssell MDAC-2Klein and Hummell 0300D Sota Sapphire/Lyra KleosBespoke Valve Phono StageMastersound Due VentiLink Audio K100 TheOctavist's Profile:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Designing by listening= failure.

2012-02-11 Thread TheOctavist
Mnyb;690070 Wrote: Then add all kind of euphonics as software filters that could be turned on or off or mixed . And also variable output impedance of the power amp and adaptable current limits that could be applied in some arbitrary impedance points to emulate inability to drive complex

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] FUD, intellectual honesty, digital facts, and the TAS articles...

2012-02-11 Thread TheOctavist
ah, i meant the two haydn excerpts. :) the others on her page werent recorded by me.! I do have this recording in 24/88.2. If I can get permission from them, ill gladly send out a DVDA or two.. or a DATA disc with the files to do with what you want. -- TheOctavist VortexboxSBT(stock(TT

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] FUD, intellectual honesty, digital facts, and the TAS articles...

2012-02-11 Thread Mnyb
TheOctavist;690108 Wrote: ah, i meant the two haydn excerpts. :) the others on her page werent recorded by me.! I do have this recording in 24/88.2. If I can get permission from them, ill gladly send out a DVDA or two.. or a DATA disc with the files to do with what you want. You

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Theoretical benefits to hi-res if only max 20kHz signal?

2012-02-11 Thread TheOctavist
adamdea;689865 Wrote: Hi TR, did you get any further reply from your pals? My it has gone quiet all of a sudden on this forum. Not yet..but I will soon! if not, ill phone em. :) btw, Adam, if you have any specific in depth questions...let me know, ill send em up the chain...and for that

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] FUD, intellectual honesty, digital facts, and the TAS articles...

2012-02-11 Thread Phil Leigh
cunobelinus;690103 Wrote: On 10 Feb 2012, at 22:42, TheOctavist wrote: mr phil... here are two of my earliest recordings, as an apprentice rec/balance engineer in germany.the haydn.. http://www.theresia-aranowski.de/hoerbeispiele.html just blumlein. akg 426.

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] FUD, intellectual honesty, digital facts, and the TAS articles...

2012-02-11 Thread TheOctavist
Mnyb;690110 Wrote: You could convince miss aronowski to publish on bandcamp :) it's not only for indie pop, the right venue for a small scale sale or downloadable demo . You can set price yourself. Ah but they didn't charge for this, it was for entertainment only, well specifically to

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Finished with Pandora?

2012-02-11 Thread TheOctavist
garym;689872 Wrote: I should note that I still use the free pandora. And I would have switched to MOG (or spotify or rhapsody, etc.) even if Pandora high bit rate streaming worked on SB. Pandora is great for random mixes. But I often want to play specific albums. i dont get too bugged

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] FUD, intellectual honesty, digital facts, and the TAS articles...

2012-02-11 Thread ralphpnj
TheOctavist;690113 Wrote: Ah but they didn't charge for this, it was for entertainment only, well specifically to debut a new orchestra. i emailed her, if she and Frank(Frank is the Orchestra master and Her husband) say it is cool, ill digitally send the high res files. :) Just don't

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] FUD, intellectual honesty, digital facts, and the TAS articles...

2012-02-11 Thread TheOctavist
ralphpnj;690119 Wrote: Just don't send the files using a files locker service, oh wait you gentlemen are mostly located in Europe and not in the USA like me. Oh well, I guess I'll just have to do my patriotic duty and report the whole lot of you file sharing criminals to the Homeland

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] FUD, intellectual honesty, digital facts, and the TAS articles...

2012-02-11 Thread ralphpnj
TheOctavist;690120 Wrote: I am American, buddy...so the NSA knows already! ! and more than that, a damn southern country boy from North Cackalack...where I live right now! ;) I lived in Germany for 6 years tho.. Keep on posting about wanting to file share on public forums and you'll

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Theoretical benefits to hi-res if only max 20kHz signal?

2012-02-11 Thread finnbrodersen
my old ears stop at about 12-13kHz -- finnbrodersen Some version of SBServer running on a HP EX490 home server SBReceiver -- NAD C162+C272 -- DALI IKON 6 (let's call it MidFi) finnbrodersen's Profile:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Designing by listening= failure.

2012-02-11 Thread TheOctavist
eeyep'An Interview with Andrew Jones of Pioneer/TAD' (http://www.positive-feedback.com/Issue30/andrew_jones.htm) Positive Feedback What about audiophile type parts? Any advantage? Wire, caps, etc. Andrew Jones We have high quality parts certainly, mostly manufactured by ourselves or to our

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Designing by listening= failure.

2012-02-11 Thread Mnyb
Trying to find one of my old favs in the genre , but searching for anti-riaa gets to many hits . There once was an idiotic device that reduced the output of a CD player and applied anti-riaa filter so that you could use your phono preamp with your CD to get better sound :) God old mr Walker

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] FUD, intellectual honesty, digital facts, and the TAS articles...

2012-02-11 Thread cunobelinus
On 11 Feb 2012, at 12:22, TheOctavist wrote: ah, i meant the two haydn excerpts. :) the others on her page werent recorded by me.! I do have this recording in 24/88.2. If I can get permission from them, ill gladly send out a DVDA or two.. or a DATA disc with the files to do with

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2012-02-11 Thread Munroe
I have no idea where this thread is going. From the average joe perspective, I perhaps mistakenly assumed after stumbling onto a post about the TT3.0 tweaks, the SBT may give me an option to bypass the need for an expensive DAC like Benchmark etc. Assumption compounded by the audiophile

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] FUD, intellectual honesty, digital facts, and the TAS articles...

2012-02-11 Thread Archimago
Phil Leigh;690076 Wrote: most photo mags call this out as nonsense... It's the manufacturers who know the mass market is driven by impressive numbers...pixels sell cameras! The pros are clamouring for dynamic range... The nice thing about optical stuff is that it is quite easy to measure

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] FUD, intellectual honesty, digital facts, and the TAS articles...

2012-02-11 Thread Phil Leigh
Archimago;690161 Wrote: Yup, I think the pixel wars is waning and serious photogs and forums all know this... Octavist: Hope you get the permission! I haven't seen the new TAS article yet, but check out this question from Audio Asylum:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] FUD, intellectual honesty, digital facts, and the TAS articles...

2012-02-11 Thread mlsstl
Mnyb;690110 Wrote: You could convince miss aronowski to publish on bandcamp :) it's not only for indie pop, the right venue for a small scale sale or downloadable demo . You can set price yourself. Second the motion on bandcamp.com. Great site. The artist can give away their music for free

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2012-02-11 Thread mlsstl
Munroe;690155 Wrote: Apparently, no one purchasing the Touch uses the unit self contained, so many conversations turn to arguing results in conjunction with this DAC or that DAC... Not true. There are a few of us that use the analog outs of the Touch and are very pleased. I sold my Lavry

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2012-02-11 Thread Soulkeeper
Same here. No outboard DAC. I also tend to tweak my stuff, to save money and to get better sound, and for the sheer joy of it. But I still haven't seen a TT mod that makes me crave trying it out. ;) There are probably plenty TT mods that affect the sound, and some of them perhaps for the

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2012-02-11 Thread Mnyb
Also if you are using a hometheater processor or a modern AV receiver or digital speakers . Or have a dac for your other digital sources. Then the analog outs is just redundant . I have one Touch for digital only use in my hifi/ht and one using analog to a pair of powered speakers in my kitchen.

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Designing by listening= failure.

2012-02-11 Thread Soulkeeper
Mnyb;690070 Wrote: Then add all kind of euphonics as software filters that could be turned on or off or mixed . Or hardware. If there had been a reasonably priced hardware unit on the market in 1999, that could color the sound to make my CD player sound more like my turntable, I would

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2012-02-11 Thread aubuti
Munroe;690155 Wrote: Apparently, no one purchasing the Touch uses the unit self contained, so many conversations turn to arguing results in conjunction with this DAC or that DAC, which is hard to filter through any information of value regarding the analog outs (which would be of some value

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2012-02-11 Thread Munroe
Soulkeeper;690179 Wrote: Same here. No outboard DAC. I also tend to tweak my stuff, to save money and to get better sound, and for the sheer joy of it. But I still haven't seen a TT mod that makes me crave trying it out. ;) There are probably plenty TT mods that affect the sound on the

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Hey folks, please help me with getting Inguz/DRC/ setup on my SBT!!

2012-02-11 Thread TheOctavist
I have audiolense now.. I also have downloaded DRC. trid to use DRC, but I cant run impulse prep?? the .exe file, once clicked just flashes a DOS screen for a second, and nothing.. tried using the impulse prep .msi, but it said my LMS wasnt up to date and couldnt install(im using the latest!)

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2012-02-11 Thread guidof
Munroe;690155 Wrote: Not judging, just saying people have different priorities. ;) Exactly. Sometimes the same person has different priorities in different parts of the same house. See my sig. One system with, one system without external DAC. Both with TT3.0. Each system delivers very

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What Amp and Speakers Are You Using?

2012-02-11 Thread akremer
Jadis DPL2 - Jadis JA 30 -- akremer akremer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=54226 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21643

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Hey folks, please help me with getting Inguz/DRC/ setup on my SBT!!

2012-02-11 Thread totoro
TheOctavist;690198 Wrote: I have audiolense now.. I also have downloaded DRC. trid to use DRC, but I cant run impulse prep?? the .exe file, once clicked just flashes a DOS screen for a second, and nothing.. tried using the impulse prep .msi, but it said my LMS wasnt up to date and

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Beatles, Pink Floyd Engineer Alan Parsons Rips Audiophiles

2012-02-11 Thread totoro
Mnyb;690092 Wrote: Interesting article . I'm partly as surprised as him about why multichannel music has not gone anywhere . If you remove the voodoo overhead on the hifi and replace it with stuff that makes a sq difference but contains no voodoo, you can have good multichannel and

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Beatles, Pink Floyd Engineer Alan Parsons Rips Audiophiles

2012-02-11 Thread Mnyb
totoro;690204 Wrote: For me, the limiting factor ha been the cost of 5 good, well matched speakers combined with a lack of space and a dearth of multichannel recordings. If more music were available in 5.1, I would probably switch to it, Yep a downward spiral no content no sale and then

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] google enters the multi room streaming market..

2012-02-11 Thread TheOctavist
http://www.whathifi.com/news/google-plans-affordable-multiroom-music-system http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203824904577213430617644196.html?mod=WSJEUROPE_hpp_sections_tech step it up, Logitech! -- TheOctavist VortexboxSBT(stock(TT failed dbt)Forssell MDAC-2Klein and Hummell

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Hey folks, please help me with getting Inguz/DRC/ setup on my SBT!!

2012-02-11 Thread TheOctavist
totoro;690202 Wrote: You might want to try running it from the command line, and seeing what it prints to the screen. im not a command line type guy... can you tell me how to do that? -- TheOctavist VortexboxSBT(stock(TT failed dbt)Forssell MDAC-2Klein and Hummell 0300D Sota

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Hey folks, please help me with getting Inguz/DRC/ setup on my SBT!!

2012-02-11 Thread Phil Leigh
If you now have Audiolense, have you been able to do your room measurements and create the convolver (Inguz in this case) input file? It's been over a year since I last had to play with this stuff so I'm a bit rusty on the whole process. It will take me a while to get back up to speed. Hopefully

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] google enters the multi room streaming market..

2012-02-11 Thread Jeff Flowerday
Already posted elsewhere. http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=93538 -- Jeff Flowerday Jeff Flowerday's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15883 View this thread:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Hey folks, please help me with getting Inguz/DRC/ setup on my SBT!!

2012-02-11 Thread evdplancke
Tried inguz tonight with drc. Managed to get a room correction filter using normal.drc profile. Had to change mplowerwindow to 32768 in normal.drc since default value 44100 was to high... don't know the impact. Learned two things: - first my measured room frequency response is all but flat -

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Crackling only through server?

2012-02-11 Thread mashley
Extended listening most of the day today - LMS through laptop (wirelessly) no crackling whatsoever, have been pushing my speakers pretty hard this evening, everything is fine. The only time I'm hearing this crackling is through the desktop. I'd like to try and fix/troubleshoot it but I don't know

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Designing by listening= failure.

2012-02-11 Thread mashley
Actually some engineers design their audio equipment to produce great specs on paper and they don't even bother to listen to their designs because the figures tell them what they believe to be correct. Certain people at Audio Note find this highly amusing especially considering those engineers

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Designing by listening= failure.

2012-02-11 Thread konut
Mnyb;690070 Wrote: Their amps get rave reviews everywhere :( such is the state engineering in high end audio . You are assuming the same people that design the DACs are also the same people that design the amps. That would be an incorrect assumption. -- konut