I spoke to Brent at Audio upgrades.
Turns out that:
a) you do need 2 oscillators;
b) my modded unit was wrongly installed using the old clock for
44.1/88.2 and the new clock (which was a 44.1 multiple not a 48
multiple) for 48/96;
c) this explains the fact that 48/96 did not work;
d) it means
On 09/09/10 17:15, adamdea wrote:
I have now got a transporter in my office while I await confirmation
from Logitech of how they are going to take it back. It is still in its
unopened box I am so far resisting the siren call to try it out.
Open it...open it... open it...
Go on, you
open open open open
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Thanks people.
Sorry i have left it in office, so return to your homes, baying mob.
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I wonder how you could sleep tonight...
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I am going to strap myself to the mast like Ulysses. Anyway I haven't
watched ep 1 of mad men 4 from last night. Also I guess I could try
making music using some strange silver discs I have found lying around.
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adamdea;57 Wrote:
I am going to strap myself to the mast like Ulysses. Anyway I haven't
watched ep 1 of mad men 4 from last night. Also I guess I could try
making music using some strange silver discs I have found lying around.
Looks like quit smoking is an easy task against. Good luck!
Thanks, but I had in mind something more slowly dawning rather than
immediate terror- sort of realising while lying on a deckchair on
holiday that you've forgotten to feed the crocodile and lock the back
door.
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Back to the original theme- I am returning my touch to Audio upgrades.
Brent (the owner) tells me that he does not think there is a missing
48kHz oscillator but I am going to send the Touch back to him to
investigate. I am still haunted by the possibility that i may have
messed up some setting
adamdea;574704 Wrote:
Back to the original theme- I am returning my touch to Audio upgrades.
Brent (the owner) tells me that he does not think there is a missing
48kHz oscillator but I am going to send the Touch back to him to
investigate. I am still haunted by the possibility that i may
Phil Leigh;574708 Wrote:
Well, the only setting that relates to this is the convert.conf file
(which would be replaced by a reinstall of SBS).
The fact that your Touch does not play either 48 or 96k files seems
fairly conclusive... both are native FLAC formats with no transcoding.
For
adamdea;574711 Wrote:
All very interesting. BTW Phil, I am sorry to have to admit that I
successfully cancelled the transporter order. I think this reflects
rather well on Logitech, and rather badly on me. It was a rash
decision.
If I were sure it would enable me to lose the 3 box MF DAC
Yes, 48 or 96 not working means there is a HIGH probability that the
24.576 clock is either not working or the mux that selects between the
two frequencies is not working.
There have been some SB3 modders that replace the 11.2896 crystal and
take out the 12.288 one, but they do tell you that
I checked the audioupgrades page and it looks like the mod replaces one
of the crystals (presumably the 22.5792) with a low jitter clock and
leaves the other one in place. That should still allow 48 and 96 to
work.
John S.
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JohnSwenson;574747 Wrote:
I checked the audioupgrades page and it looks like the mod replaces one
of the crystals (presumably the 22.5792) with a low jitter clock and
leaves the other one in place. That should still allow 48 and 96 to
work.
John S.
It's still a bizarre mod though - why
JohnSwenson;574747 Wrote:
I checked the audioupgrades page and it looks like the mod replaces one
of the crystals (presumably the 22.5792) with a low jitter clock and
leaves the other one in place. That should still allow 48 and 96 to
work.
John S.
I hope I am not misrepresenting things,
adamdea;574774 Wrote:
I hope I am not misrepresenting things, but
My conversation with Brent at audioupgrades left me with the distinct
impression that he did not believe there were 2 crystals but that both
48kHz and 44.1 KHz were derived from the same crystal.
That's not really
Phil Leigh;574781 Wrote:
That's not really possible...[/
Yes... Is there an emoticon which connotes pauses whilst terrifying
implications of previous procurement decision sinks in.
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earwaxer9;574371 Wrote:
Dont jump to conclusions! - first of all - try it over ethernet vs.
wireless. Second - replace the fuse with a HiFi tuning fuse ($30). 3rd
- try feeding it upsampled 24/96 cd's. 4th - make sure its burned in
(300 hrs.) Cheap things to try. Makes a big difference.
He
Yes phil, i think we have same. I feel like one of those dogs they used
to make smoke fags for medical experiments.
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adamdea;574395 Wrote:
Yes phil, i think we have same. I feel like one of those dogs they used
to make smoke fags for medical experiments.
{cough}
When does the TP arrive?
I checked out the Audio Upgrades website and it seems their clock
upgrades were originally designed for CD players -
Phil Leigh;574396 Wrote:
{cough}
When does the TP arrive?
I checked out the Audio Upgrades website and it seems their clock
upgrades were originally designed for CD players - which of course only
have one crystal/clock frequency (44.1k). The Touch (all SB's in fact)
need both a 44.1
Phil Leigh;574396 Wrote:
{cough}
When does the TP arrive?
I checked out the Audio Upgrades website and it seems their clock
upgrades were originally designed for CD players - which of course only
have one crystal/clock frequency (44.1k). The Touch (all SB's in fact)
need both a 44.1
garym;574297 Wrote:
I very much like the transporter. It replaced my benchmark DAC I, and a
side benefit is I have one less S/PDIF connection to worry about (e.g.,
touch to benchmark DAC). SbS ethernet transporter XLR balanced
out to XLR balanced inputs of preamp.
How do you rate the
adamdea;574590 Wrote:
How do you rate the transporter as against the benchmark as a dac?
It's a challenge to rate and I hate to use terms like warmer, but
the best I can do is state that the transporter has a bit warmer
sound to me than the benchmark. I suppose the proof is in the pudding.
I
The problem I'm having is that I really like the sound ov my dac now
after a lot of tweaking. I am torn between a feeling that eliminating
spdif must be good (as naim always maintained) against a concern that
the dac might only be quite good. I am suspicious that if used as a
transport only, the
adamdea;574601 Wrote:
The problem I'm having is that I really like the sound ov my dac now
after a lot of tweaking. I am torn between a feeling that eliminating
spdif must be good (as naim always maintained) against a concern that
the dac might only be quite good. I am suspicious that if
garym;574603 Wrote:
Oh no. It is much better than the touch. I have 3 touches and have
compared. The touch is very, very nice and for $300 is a true bargain.
But the quality of the build and components of the Transporter are in a
different league all together.
And if you don't like your
What a great racket these audiophile modders have. Maybe an upgraded
power cord will fix the problem!
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Ian still not leaping to any conclusions; and it may be curable, anyway.
In a fit of madness I bought a transporter last night. I am now
experiencing a strong sense of buyer's remorse. If it isn't better than
the DAC I already have, it's not really a wise investment.
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adamdea;574291 Wrote:
Ian still not leaping to any conclusions; and it may be curable, anyway.
In a fit of madness I bought a transporter last night. I am now
experiencing a strong sense of buyer's remorse. If it isn't better than
the DAC I already have, it's not really a wise investment.
I
adamdea;574291 Wrote:
Am still not leaping to any conclusions; and it may be curable, anyway.
In a fit of madness I bought a transporter last night. I am now
experiencing a strong sense of buyer's remorse. If it isn't better than
the DAC I already have, it's not really a wise investment.
Yes the mods were by audiocom (and incidentally thanks for your advice
on that). I have also had a new clock put in the touch by audio
upgrades incidentally. It seems very odd that the lock is lost when I
try to play the files and that i have to reboot the touch to get it
back. The touch does not
adamdea;573972 Wrote:
Yes the mods were by audiocom (and incidentally thanks for your advice
on that). I have also had a new clock put in the touch by audio
upgrades incidentally. It seems very odd that the lock is lost when I
try to play the files and that i have to reboot the touch to get
Thanks again
I should perhaps clarify that he reboot restores the touch and enables
the DAC to get a lock: it doesn't fix it in the sense of allowing me to
play the 24/48 file
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I hope that is not the problem here, but I did begin to worry.
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Does it happen on an unmodified Touch? If not, I think you know what the
problem is.
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I only have one touch, I'm afraid. It would be useful to try another one
to compare
The diagnostic nightmare is that I am not sure when the problem set in
as it doesn't apply to 24/88 and I thought at first it was a glitch
with one file i had bought from HD tracks. .
Can you help with the
adamdea;574024 Wrote:
I only have one touch, I'm afraid. It would be useful to try another one
to compare
The diagnostic nightmare is that I am not sure when the problem set in
as it doesn't apply to 24/88 and I thought at first it was a glitch
with one file i had bought from HD tracks. .
Sorry my point was a bit more basic that: i wanted to put all the file
types options to back where they were at the beginning. I can't
remember what I might have changed.
Is there a way of doing that short of uninstalling squeezeserver and
reinstalling.
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Under Flac
I have Flac native
MP3 disabled
PCM disabled
Under WAV I have
FLACsox
MP3 lame
PCM native
Is this likely to cause a problem?
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OK finally
I can confirm that 24/48 crashes too. Does this suggest that the touch
clock can't cope with 48kHz multiples?
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adamdea;574113 Wrote:
OK finally
I can confirm that 24/48 crashes too. Does this suggest that the touch
clock can't cope with 48kHz multiples?
Yes. Sorry.
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You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it
ain't what you'd call minimal...
A while ago I tried changing settings to convert flac to PCM on the
server. Recently I noticed that 24/96 files weren't playing and crashed
something- the dac ( modded mf x dac v3) loses lock and won't regain it
without restoring the touch to factory settings.
The problem is specific to 24/96:
Can you describe your Touch setup in detail. Also can you try a 48K
file?
Who did the X-DAC mods? (Audiocom?)
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You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it
ain't what you'd call minimal...
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