Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Dilemma

2018-05-09 Thread Golden Earring
artee wrote: > Like the curate's egg - good in parts. They were the diametric opposite > of the Shure V15 III in terms of trackability, and I don't think that > the turntable/arm suited it much at all. Having said that, the midrange > was sublime. Tracking fell aprt on either side of the midrange

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Dilemma

2018-05-08 Thread dhallag
My NAD phono preamp has both, so it was just a case of switching from one to the other to see which one sounded best. LMS 7.9.1 on QNAP 219P+ 3 wired Touch End Points Jolida Tube DAC III Marantz 2270 to Boston Acoustics Slimlines Marantz 7010 to B&W CM10 S2 -

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Dilemma

2018-05-08 Thread artee
Golden Earring wrote: > Hi artee! > > DID you like it?? > > Dave :cool: Like the curate's egg - good in parts. They were the diametric opposite of the Shure V15 III in terms of trackability, and I don't think that the turntable/arm suited it much at all. Having said that, the midrange was sub

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Dilemma

2018-05-05 Thread Golden Earring
artee wrote: > I used to like the Shure V15 Mk III a lot - terrific tracking and a > (relatively) neutral sound. I used it in a Philips GA212. A good friend > at the time had the Linn Sondek & (I think) Liinn arm and Linn > cartridge. He was often pissed off because he paid roughly twice as much

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Dilemma

2018-05-05 Thread Golden Earring
Mnyb wrote: > I think thats the actual ritual about spining those discs, I’m little > sadened that i sold all my vinyls 20 years ago :-/ > > It sometimes think about. create a retro hifi system of some kind, just > for pure nostalgia . Hi Mnyb! I am already pursuing this very course: I have t

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Dilemma

2018-05-03 Thread artee
Golden Earring wrote: > > As I think I've mentioned (somewhere!) before, I had one of these > beasties, with an SME 3009 Mk2 (?) arm & a Shure V15 Mk III cartridge > before I got the LP12/Ittok combo... > I used to like the Shure V15 Mk III a lot - terrific tracking and a (relatively) neutral

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Dilemma

2018-04-25 Thread Golden Earring
Hi Bill & Clive! As I think I've mentioned (somewhere!) before, I had one of these beasties, with an SME 3009 Mk2 (?) arm & a Shure V15 Mk III cartridge before I got the LP12/Ittok combo: this originally had a cheap & cheerful MM cartridge fitted (I can't even remember what it was now, other than

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Dilemma

2018-04-25 Thread cliveb
One big problem with the Transcriptors turntable was its lack of support for the LP. When it was designed LPs were a decent thickness, but after the oil crises of the early 70s they got a lot thinner and couldn't support their own weight without flexing. All in all, an interesting piece of art, bu

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Dilemma

2018-04-24 Thread ftlight
Great stories, Dave! I still have my Transcriptors deck with the SME arm and Shure cartridge (all vintage mid-1970s), but the turntable needs a new belt and the damping fluid has gone away, so I haven't used it in quite a while. On top of the dustcover I keep the Museum of Modern Art book that

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Dilemma

2018-04-23 Thread Golden Earring
Golden Earring wrote: > Hi Clive! > > Just for nostalgia's sake (I -am- 63 now, so please indulge me... ), > I've decided to create a 3-way system: analogue, CD & only 10 years > out-of-date Transporter-based digital music streamer. > > Dave :cool: I realise that it's a bit self-indulgent to

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Dilemma

2018-04-22 Thread Golden Earring
cliveb wrote: > Even fresh out of the bag brand-new LPs can have mold release agent that > is worth removing. And apart from the Keith Monks (which is thousands to > buy), vacuum cleaners can be had for a few hundred. They are the only > *really* effective way to clean LPs. Agreed. I put my new

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Dilemma

2018-04-22 Thread Golden Earring
cliveb wrote: > I've never heard a Koetsu, for the very practical reason that I didn't > want to in case it made me need to afford to buy one. But IIRC, Koetsu > cartridges share a lot of design features with the Supex ones, and I do > remember them being a little more refined and less "in your f

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Dilemma

2018-04-22 Thread Pascal Hibon
Apesbrain wrote: > Just chiming in to say that I use a Benz ACE (0.8 mV; first gen model) > and like it very much. I've owned many cartridges including an > Audio-Technica AT-14Sa. If I needed a new cartridge, I'm sure I could > live happily with one of the current A-T line such as the VM-740ML

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Dilemma

2018-04-22 Thread Pascal Hibon
Mnyb wrote: > > When we have transducers , pickups microphones and speakers , some of > them are better by objective results but there is also an element of > taste involved Amen to that :-) 'Cambridge Audio 851D-S' (https://www.cambridgeaudio.com/products/851/851d) -> 'Focal MP1200' (http:/

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Dilemma

2018-04-19 Thread Mnyb
Yes the best MM transducers ( I owned som Grado’s to ) is probably the best trackers. Like,the Ortofon OM40 . And not to mention the matching with ones tone arm ? Any results is possible ? And fine tuning the impedance of the phono preamp , I’ve had an electrocompagniet mc pre with whole bunch o

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Dilemma

2018-04-19 Thread cliveb
Golden Earring wrote: > You reckon that low output MC cartridges *generally* sound better than > high output ones: would you carry that generalisation so far as to > include my original 1980s Koetsu Rosewood Signature, or would you need > to hear it first to make up your mind? Of course, it's -no

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Dilemma

2018-04-19 Thread Apesbrain
Just chiming in to say that I use a Benz ACE (0.8 mV; first gen model) and like it very much. I've owned many cartridges including an Audio-Technica AT-14Sa. If I needed a new cartridge, I'm sure I could live happily with one of the current A-T line such as the VM-740ML. My memory is of a nice

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Dilemma

2018-04-19 Thread Guy48065
Golden Earring wrote: > ... Does no-one offer a professional record cleaning service with a > fixed price per disc anymore? > > Absolutely. It's run out of the back of a buggywhip shop that I frequent. I can send along the address if interested. They don't have a phone (naturally). Squeez

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Dilemma

2018-04-18 Thread Golden Earring
cliveb wrote: > Been away in Australia for a few weeks so late to this thread. Thought > I'd offer my take on it. > > Vinyl LP technology is outdated, seriously flawed and quite frankly a > bit of a dog's dinner. > > And yet - it can sound bloody marvelous. Go figure. My personal opinion > is t

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Dilemma

2018-04-14 Thread Pascal Hibon
cliveb wrote: > > Vinyl LP technology is outdated, seriously flawed and quite frankly a > bit of a dog's dinner. I agree with that. Although I never ditched my vinyl collection I never listened to it. Until I recently discovered that it can sound a bit better than I was used to. cliveb wrote:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Dilemma

2018-04-14 Thread Pascal Hibon
arnyk wrote: > No you won't want to hear my opinions if you are at all a normal > audiophile. What exactly is a "normal audiophile"? How do you measure that? arnyk wrote: > > The solution to this problem is ... There is / was no problem. I was just amazed by the sound quality produced by th

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Dilemma

2018-04-12 Thread arnyk
Daverz wrote: > What name calling? I called your -post- obnoxious, because, if we are > being frank now, it was obnoxious. You saw a post about analog > equipment and your objectivist warrior mode kicked in (if it is in fact > ever turned off). LOL. You post all the above and have the chutzpah

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Dilemma

2018-04-11 Thread Daverz
arnyk wrote: > OK so a frank analysis of what is obvioius to many can cause pain in > hypersensitive places; I can handle that! > > The name-calling and deceptive redaction of the OP is noted, and really > says all that I need to say. > What name calling? I called your -post- obnoxious, becau

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Dilemma

2018-04-11 Thread drmatt
I don't think it's an indictment of human hearing that people like LP so much. More a reflection of the fact that the net result of all the inevitable distortions seems to flatter the audio in the first place, making it better fit the home audio playback environment at lower listening levels and m

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Dilemma

2018-04-11 Thread cliveb
Been away in Australia for a few weeks so late to this thread. Thought I'd offer my take on it. Vinyl LP technology is outdated, seriously flawed and quite frankly a bit of a dog's dinner. And yet - it can sound bloody marvelous. Go figure. My personal opinion is that it's because human hearing

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Dilemma

2018-04-11 Thread arnyk
Daverz wrote: > You know that Pascal can hear you, right? Do you not realize how > obnoxious this kind of cod psychoanalysis is? Especially as no claims > were made beyond "I enjoyed some records on my friends equipment." > OK so a frank analysis of what is obvioius to many can cause pain in

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Dilemma

2018-04-10 Thread Daverz
arnyk wrote: > No you won't want to hear my opinions if you are at all a normal > audiophile. > > What I get from the OP is a pile of audiophile nervosa wrapped up in a > post that follows the plot of jillions of other audiophile tall tales > I've heard over the decades. > > (1) Friend spends

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Dilemma

2018-04-10 Thread ralphpnj
arnyk wrote: > ...both of which are generally ignored by audiophiles because of their > apparent connections with logic and reason. Substitute "elected officials" for "audiophiles" and you have a perfect description of how the US (and any other) government works. Living Rm: Transporter-SimAud

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Dilemma

2018-04-10 Thread arnyk
Pascal Hibon wrote: > Last week I was at a friend’s house and while I was there he played a > few vinyl records. While we were chatting, I mentioned that would love > to compare an MC cart to my current MM cart, which is a Shure M97xE. I > like the Shure but my only complaint is that it lacks a b

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Dilemma

2018-04-09 Thread Daverz
Yes, it's true that replacement styli are often half the original cost of the cartridge. However, I don't think I've ever gotten 50% off on any trade-in deal, and you don't have to send the cartridge back for re-tipping. Hate to sound fickle, but I've already taken the 150 off. Fast, clean midr

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Dilemma

2018-04-08 Thread Pascal Hibon
Mnyb wrote: > Enjoy :) i actually never heard an AT cartridge , for some reason they > never where that common among my friends and the dealers i visited back > then. Thanks Mnyb. Even today, the AT's seem to be quite popular. During my vinyl days I have mostly used Shure carts and one Ortofon.

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Dilemma

2018-04-08 Thread Pascal Hibon
Daverz wrote: > I used an AT33PTG for years and loved it. Your post inspired me to > install an AT150MLX MM cart I've had lying around for years (I didn't > like it with my old phono pre). Without threaded holes it was a bitch > to install, but it sounds great. Those who can't do MCs and want

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Dilemma

2018-04-08 Thread Mnyb
Enjoy :) i actually never heard an AT cartridge , for some reason they never where that common among my friends and the dealers i visited back then. Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x Merid

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Dilemma

2018-04-07 Thread Daverz
Pascal Hibon wrote: > Well since I started this thread I thought I needed to post an update. > During my quest for a new cart I finally ended up with a shortlist of > carts. This shortlist was based upon several sources such as friends > opinions, reviews, reading various sources on the internet,

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Dilemma

2018-04-03 Thread Pascal Hibon
Well since I started this thread I thought I needed to post an update. During my quest for a new cart I finally ended up with a shortlist of carts. This shortlist was based upon several sources such as friends opinions, reviews, reading various sources on the internet, etc. The shortlist was compo

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Dilemma

2018-03-19 Thread Martin N
Hello, At 22:00 18/03/2018, you wrote: We have several treads on recording vinyl you do need a riaa stage or preamp or similar , not just the analog in on your computer. Yes, i forgot about that and have a creek obh8 going into my amplifier Maybe a better sound card if inputs on laptops r

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Dilemma

2018-03-18 Thread Grumpy Bob
It occurs to me that the OP might find answers to his cartridge query over at a forum like that at 'vinylengine' (https://www.vinylengine.com/turntable_forum/index.php). For my part, I enjoy playing vinyl - but out of convenience most of my listening is done from digital, CDs or vinyl ripped to m

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Dilemma

2018-03-18 Thread pablolie
Mnyb wrote: > I think thats the actual ritual about spining those discs, I’m little > sadened that i sold all my vinyls 20 years ago :-/ > > It sometimes think about. create a retro hifi system of some kind, just > for pure nostalgia . I don't miss vinyl one bit, even though I still have my al

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Dilemma

2018-03-18 Thread Mnyb
We have several treads on recording vinyl you do need a riaa stage or preamp or similar , not just the analog in on your computer. Maybe a better sound card if inputs on laptops reached new bottom levels . But any decent soundcards fidelity far exceeds vinyl . On topic it was some fun when I was

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Dilemma

2018-03-18 Thread Martin N
Hello, At 04:55 18/03/2018, you wrote: When I remeber my LP days it thought the low level MC cart sounded even better , bu then you need a separate MC amp before the MM input or a phone stage that handles MC directly , something that you select both gain and I put impedance . Cart also needs ma

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Dilemma

2018-03-18 Thread kidstypike
Ah . . but you had one, and so did I, but very sensibly *I* didn't use it. :confused: *Study/Server - LMS 7.9.1 -* Pi3/Pi screen/HiFiBerry DAC+/piCorePlayer 3.22/jivelite, 25K library on WDMyCloud, cache and playlists on a USB stick (formatted ntfs). *Lounge* - Pi 2/Max2Play > HiFiBerry DIGI+ >

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Dilemma

2018-03-18 Thread ralphpnj
kidstypike wrote: > You didn't mention this must have :( :) > > 24731 A "must have"?!? When I used one of these devices on my turntable it seemed as if i was listening through a dirty window. In addition the entire soundstage collapsed and the tonal balance was all wrong. Not to mention that

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Dilemma

2018-03-18 Thread kidstypike
ralphpnj wrote: > Do you mean the ritual of having to put all those LPs away after you > played them? Or having to clean the LPs before you play them? Of having > to listen a track you don't enjoy because you are too lazy to get up and > move the tonearm past the track? Or not being able to save

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Dilemma

2018-03-18 Thread Pascal Hibon
ralphpnj wrote: > Do you mean the ritual of having to put all those LPs away after you > played them? Or having to clean the LPs before you play them? Of having > to listen a track you don't enjoy because you are too lazy to get up and > move the tonearm past the track? Or not being able to save

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Dilemma

2018-03-18 Thread slartibartfast
Pascal Hibon wrote: > Sure but that is not an equal competition. CD has the advantage; it is > the better format. And when done right should sound better no matter > what cart one uses. > I'm just amazed how good that cart plays. It is very close to CD > quality. > > Playing vinyl once and a w

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Dilemma

2018-03-18 Thread ralphpnj
Pascal Hibon wrote: > Sure but that is not an equal competition. CD has the advantage; it is > the better format. And when done right should sound better no matter > what cart one uses. > I'm just amazed how good that cart plays. It is very close to CD > quality. > > Playing vinyl once and a w

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Dilemma

2018-03-18 Thread Pascal Hibon
ralphpnj wrote: > Why not compare the sound of an LP played using the Benz to the sound of > flac files (both standard resolution and high resolution - if available) > of the same recording streamed via your Touch. The flac files should be > sourced from either a CD rip or a digital download, in

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Dilemma

2018-03-18 Thread Pascal Hibon
Mnyb wrote: > I think thats the actual ritual about spining those discs, I’m little > sadened that i sold all my vinyls 20 years ago :-/ > > It sometimes think about. create a retro hifi system of some kind, just > for pure nostalgia . I never ditched my vinyl. I don't think I could. It is som

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Dilemma

2018-03-18 Thread ralphpnj
Why not compare the sound of an LP played using the Benz to the sound of flac files (both standard resolution and high resolution - if available) of the same recording streamed via your Touch. The flac files should be sourced from either a CD rip or a digital download, in other words not from a vi

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Dilemma

2018-03-18 Thread drmatt
Just have an old LP next to the deck, get it out the sleeve and drop the needle on it. While having the deck wired to start playing the flac files on your squeezebox in the background... -Transcoded from Matt's brain by Tapatalk- -- Hardware: 3x Touch, 1x Radio, 2x Receivers, 1 HP Microserver

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Dilemma

2018-03-18 Thread Mnyb
I think thats the actual ritual about spining those discs, I’m little sadened that i sold all my vinyls 20 years ago :-/ It sometimes think about. create a retro hifi system of some kind, just for pure nostalgia . Main hifi:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Dilemma

2018-03-18 Thread Pascal Hibon
Mnyb wrote: > When I remeber my LP days it thought the low level MC cart sounded even > better , bu then you need a separate MC amp before the MM input or a > phone stage that handles MC directly , something that you select both > gain and I put impedance . > Yes, I've read about that topic as

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Dilemma

2018-03-17 Thread Mnyb
When I remeber my LP days it thought the low level MC cart sounded even better , bu then you need a separate MC amp before the MM input or a phone stage that handles MC directly , something that you select both gain and I put impedance . Cart also needs matching to the tonearm I mostly used Ortofo

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Dilemma

2018-03-17 Thread Pascal Hibon
Last week I was at a friend’s house and while I was there he played a few vinyl records. While we were chatting, I mentioned that would love to compare an MC cart to my current MM cart, which is a Shure M97xE. I like the Shure but my only complaint is that it lacks a bit of resolution in the high