> -Very- few people can tell the difference between a properly encoded Mp3
> and a FLAC. You'll need a golden system AND golden ears.
I have to disagree. Being in my mid-forties, I certainly don't have
golden ears (if I ever did) and my system is reasonable but by no means
high end. I can tell the
I have to disagree on the VBR vs CBR. I find VBR easier to spot than
CBR rips. And yes FLAC outperforms CBR. I guess at some higher
bitrate it might be increasingly difficult to tell, but 320 is not high
enough.
As Pat says, test for yourself. I've been listening to music for 25
years and an
On Fri, 2005-09-30 at 17:23 -0500, Mitch Harding wrote:
> Is that even true between FLAC and, say, 360 CBR LAME mp3?
It depends. How good are your ears? how good is your system?
VBR is nearly always better than CBR.
But why take my word for it? Form your own opinion.
All the Flac software is fre
Is that even true between FLAC and, say, 360 CBR LAME mp3?On 9/30/05, Mark_H <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:street_samurai Wrote:>> -Very- few people can tell the difference between a properly encoded
> Mp3 and a FLAC. You'll need a golden system AND golden ears. As Sean> pointed out, this can heavily
street_samurai Wrote:
>
> -Very- few people can tell the difference between a properly encoded
> Mp3 and a FLAC. You'll need a golden system AND golden ears. As Sean
> pointed out, this can heavily depend on the source material. MP3
> presets are optimized to be a general as possible but some ty
I completely agree with what both Pat and Sean wrote.
So I have very little to add except that MP3-encoders can make a hugh
difference in the quality of your Mp3. Obviously settings within those
encoders can make a big difference as well.
If you are going the Mp3 route, I'd seriously consider e
pfarrell Wrote:
> Now, since I'm old, most of my favorite rock is what younger folks
> probably scoff at.
> --
> Pat
Yeah. When I was a kid, my parents would say "what is that noise?" when
I played the beatles or the stones.
Now my kid plays this rap stuff, and I go to say "what is that noise?
> but The Nitty Gritty Dirt Band's seque from Uncle
> Charlie and His Dog Teddy into Mr Bogangles is also classic
Thanks Pat, I haven't listened to 'Uncle Charlie' for ages. "Sing 'The
Old Rugged Cross' now, chord with this ..."
--
Fifer
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On Tue, 2005-09-20 at 10:51 -0700, cliveb wrote:
> > It's irrelevant for most rock albums, which have the standard 2-second
> > gap between tracks.
> Ahem. There are literally thousands of rock albums where tracks segue;
> some very famous ones being: Dark Side of the Moon, Abbey Road, Hounds
> of
Fifer Wrote:
> Rock, jazz, spoken word, live albums of any genre, electronica and many
> other types of recording require gapless playback to be heard as the
> artist intended. It certainly isn't just limited to classical. That's
> why I use FLAC, OGG Vorbis and a Rio Karma as my portable player.
> It's irrelevant for most rock albums, which have the standard 2-second
> gap between tracks.
Rock, jazz, spoken word, live albums of any genre, electronica and many
other types of recording require gapless playback to be heard as the
artist intended. It certainly isn't just limited to classical.
Dave2 Wrote:
> Most players don't give you "gapless" playback from mp3 -- at least they
> didn't six months ago, when I was deciding which way to go.
Just to make this perfectly clear, the SB2 does not play MP3 gapless
(unless a firmware update has changed things since I tested it).
Dave2 Wrote:
Most players don't give you "gapless" playback from mp3 -- at least they
didn't six months ago, when I was deciding which way to go.
This is a big problem for those many classical albums where one track
is supposed to move into the next without any audible pause or "gap."
(See, for example, ht
On Tue, 2005-09-20 at 03:20 -0700, Fifer wrote:
> > Be warned, headphones have all sorts of non-linearities.
> >
> I'd argue that in general, pound for pound, decent headphones will
> provide more linearity and fidelity than speakers. (Obviously I mean
> pound sterling, although the same might be
I would argue that the biggest benefit of FLAC is not that it sounds
better than mp3. In fact for most people with most equipment in most
environments flac will not sound better than decently encoded mp3s.
However I rip ALL my music to FLAC. Because I do not want to EVER rip
my music twice. Yo
Dave D wrote:
As I mentioned above, I think the Advents are kaputt. The _specs_ on
the TX-860 are better than any low-midrange home theater receivers I've
been considering recently from Denon and HK. Have not looked at
2-channel amps. I really have a hard time justifying spending money on
sepa
Thank you all for the replies while I was sleeping :) Couple of
comments:
Pat Wrote:
> I've seen several credible reports that iPods and the like combined with
> high efficiency headphones is causing (enabling?) folks to seriously
> damage their hearing. And it is usually permanent. Take care o
Fifer wrote:
I very quickly noticed that the life and sound-stage had been sucked
from my music.
That describes the problem perfectly. When you lose detail (which is
what happens in mp3 encoding) it isn't always immediately obvious,
especially on lower grade equipment but you often get a sens
> Be warned, headphones have all sorts of non-linearities.
>
I'd argue that in general, pound for pound, decent headphones will
provide more linearity and fidelity than speakers. (Obviously I mean
pound sterling, although the same might be true for pound weight if
your neck muscles are strong eno
Dave D wrote:
>
-- Anything else?
Dave,
Don't overlook the fact that your equipment might not be good enough to
show the difference.
I tried a few external DACs with my SB1 and, when I first tried, I
couldn't hear any difference between the SB1 internal DAC, an Arcam
Delta, and Art DI/O,
YEMV but as far as I can tell, recordings with more distortion/noise
reveal MP3's artifacts most readily. This is assuming of course that
you know the CD *very* well, otherwise you can't tell what's from the
source vs the compression. I heard this for myself before I knew much
about how MP3 works,
Don't forget that FLAC also is a very good backup of your cd.
--
bernt
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On Mon, 2005-09-19 at 20:17 -0700, Dave D wrote:
> I'm listening through my Labtec :) headphones,
Be warned, headphones have all sorts of non-linearities.
> since they sound better
> than my old Advent speakers (might get new speakers later this year).
Large Advents? I had four of them. Still
Thanks Pat.
I'm listening through my Labtec :) headphones, since they sound better
than my old Advent speakers (might get new speakers later this year).
Maybe that makes a difference. The amplifier is an Onkyo TX-860, which
was pretty good when I bought it in 1989. Probably far out-performs th
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