[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Logitech

2006-10-23 Thread 325xi
I have serious doubts about Transporter fate. Logitech is mass market company. Yes, it sells expensive keyboards, but they are expensive mass-market keyboards. Logitech sells nothing for truly hi end narrow enthusiast market. I hope Transporter line won't be dropped because it's not profitable

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Logitech

2006-10-23 Thread Keith
It could have been much worse, it could have been sony or bose and then what? Anyway can they produce a SB that my partner can use? Just that she still uses an old CD player/radio if I'm not arround. Shame she doesn't have the same problem with the volume controls. -- Keith

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Logitech

2006-10-23 Thread jonheal
325xi;148977 Wrote: I have serious doubts about Transporter fate. Logitech is mass market company. Yes, it sells expensive keyboards, but they are expensive mass-market keyboards. Logitech sells nothing for truly hi end narrow enthusiast market. I hope Transporter line won't be dropped

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Logitech

2006-10-23 Thread Mark Lanctot
ob_kook;148939 Wrote: My SB2 is currently identical to the new SB3's coming out except for the case design and the color of the display, but if they changed how the software/firmware updates are controlled, that could change. That would be tricky because the units are *so* identical that the

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Logitech

2006-10-23 Thread ncpl
Where does all the they'll be dropping the Transporter come from? If you consider the investment made bringing the Transporter to market over the last months/year, and then consider that discussions/negociations with Logitech will have been occuring at the same time, do you not think it would

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Logitech

2006-10-23 Thread Mitch Harding
You don't consider a $500 remote control to be high end enthusiast? You consider that mass market?I think the parallels between Harmony and SD are what should guide most of our thought here. Namely:1) Harmony remotes are still considered to be very good, despite the Logitech name 2) The $500

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Logitech

2006-10-22 Thread snarlydwarf
You know, Logitech makes keyboards and mice, something they have done for a million years... A quick look shows that they not only make the $15 keyboards that most of us probably use, they also make $200 keyboards and seem to have no problem selling high end typing gear. And while everyone and

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Logitech

2006-10-22 Thread Mitch Harding
Agreed on all points.On 10/22/06, snarlydwarf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:You know, Logitech makes keyboards and mice, something they have done for a million years...A quick look shows that they not only make the $15 keyboards that mostof us probably use, they also make $200 keyboards and seem to

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Logitech

2006-10-22 Thread Skunk
Added distribution channels will increase FLAC awareness, and hopefully impact the number of third party devices that are FLAC friendly. Maybe with disks getting large enough to affordably support the format, more people will be able to hear the difference compared to lossy :-) Also, SB3's and

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Logitech

2006-10-22 Thread NewBuyer
Logitech is a very good company and I think the partnership will be great for SD and their entire customer community. Better resource availability, great product integration and development incentive, not to mention happier SD employees from the nice raises they have (hopefully) all received! SD

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Logitech

2006-10-22 Thread ob_kook
radish;148331 Wrote: All this for no obvious upside...I just can't imagine why they'd even want to do any of this. So I'm not really worried about that. What I am worried about (in the longterm, I trust Sean co as long as they're around) is lack of worthwhile new models, and lack of

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Logitech

2006-10-20 Thread Kyle
Clearly, it was the earnings. I'm sure the analysts have no idea whether $20 million for Slim Devices is a good price or a bad price (and in fact, in most cases acquiring companies see their stock drop on such announcements). I did see mention that LOGI is known for making favorable

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Logitech

2006-10-20 Thread highdudgeon
I'm just surprised that SD sold out so soon. Okay, twenty million is a lot and I'm sure that Sean Company are popping bottles of champagne. Still, the Transporter is very new to market and the company is bound to revolve over the year. In terms of branding, they might have trouble with the

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Logitech

2006-10-20 Thread adamslim
highdudgeon;148139 Wrote: I'm just surprised that SD sold out so soon. Okay, twenty million is a lot and I'm sure that Sean Company are popping bottles of champagne. Still, the Transporter is very new to market and the company is bound to revolve over the year. In terms of branding, they

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Logitech

2006-10-20 Thread Deaf Cat
adamslim;148192 Wrote: The Squeezebox is always gone to be the one that makes money - it's actually somewhat perverse that SD have gone from mass-market to upmarket. One would normally expect a high-end 'proof of concept' first, followed by a mass-market product (often better than the

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Logitech

2006-10-20 Thread slimpy
Excellent post Adam! You've put into words what I feel since this deal was anounced. -s. -- slimpy slimpy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1524 View this thread:

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Logitech

2006-10-20 Thread amthar
My concern is how friendly will Logitech be to the enthusiast scene? Will they continue to put out the SlimServer for free? Will they try and squish the SoftSqueeze? These are my concerns, as this is what lead me to being a fan of SD. -- amthar

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Logitech

2006-10-20 Thread radish
amthar;148233 Wrote: Will they continue to put out the SlimServer for free? Will they try and squish the SoftSqueeze? They have no control over Slimserver, it's open source and they don't own it. Softsqueeze is also GPL, although the primary (only?) dev works for SD (now Logitech). But if

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Logitech

2006-10-20 Thread jeffluckett
radish;148237 Wrote: They have no control over Slimserver, it's open source and they don't own it. Softsqueeze is also GPL, although the primary (only?) dev works for SD (now Logitech). But if for some reason they did stop development of it inhouse, there's nothing stopping someone else

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Logitech

2006-10-20 Thread radish
Sure, I was thinking about this at lunch time. They could indeed change the slimproto implementation to lock out slimserver, but the firmware upgrade can't be forced so those of us with existing units can just stick with the existing firmware. Look at the Sony PSP - many people are running old

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Logitech

2006-10-20 Thread jeffluckett
radish;148331 Wrote: Sure, I was thinking about this at lunch time. They could indeed change the slimproto implementation to lock out slimserver, but the firmware upgrade can't be forced so those of us with existing units can just stick with the existing firmware. Look at the Sony PSP - many

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Logitech

2006-10-20 Thread Patrick Dixon
adamslim;148192 Wrote: I don't want to do SD down, but theirs is a new market, and there are several players who will enter it when it becomes more mainstream. They are probably making OK profits now, but they could easily collapse in the future to a large entrant with serious resources.

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Logitech

2006-10-20 Thread radish
Isn't Logitech Swiss? I don't think being successful is limited to the US :) Although why there aren't more internationally successful tech companies from the UK is a very valid question. Since the Amstrad and Sinclair days it's all gone a little cold. Rio were UK based, and did awesome stuff

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Logitech

2006-10-20 Thread CardinalFang
radish;148357 Wrote: Although why there aren't more internationally successful tech companies from the UK is a very valid question. Since the Amstrad and Sinclair days it's all gone a little cold. Rio were UK based, and did awesome stuff until they went bust recently. There are lot of