[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter, Inside Out

2006-11-02 Thread Craig
> > IMHO the TP is significantly more enjoyable musically, it' gets harder > everyday to stop listening, I think Sean has really hit on something. > I doubt you would be unhappy with a TP purchase. Most people here bought a TP unheard. How many have you heard of being returned under the 30 day

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter, Inside Out

2006-11-02 Thread opaqueice
WSLam;151834 Wrote: > If you just dream of models after models, then I guess you will be glad > to get into the String theory camp. On the contrary. String theory is unique and has no known alternative, despite around 90 years of effort on the part of many rather competent people. Of course

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter, Inside Out

2006-11-02 Thread tomjtx
Jenks;151825 Wrote: > Compared with what Tom - I hear you like it, but do you mind if I ask > what your reference is? I want to consider the Transporter, but if its > at the level of say a SB3/Benchmark I would pass. SB3+Bolder Elpac> LavryDAC10 SB3+Bolderelpac>SFD2MK2 (still love those tubes

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter, Inside Out

2006-11-02 Thread Jenks
I understand the point. What any individual is most comfortable with - facts/theory/ambiguity/chaos will depend on what brain type they are I guess. But there are times when it seems to me it is useful to treat something as a fact and sometimes when it is not. For example we might treat the fol

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter, Inside Out

2006-11-02 Thread WSLam
Jenks;151851 Wrote: > I understand the point. What any individual is most comfortable with - > facts/theory/ambiguity/chaos will depend on what brain type they are I > guess. But there are times when it seems to me it is useful to treat > something as a fact and sometimes when it is not. For e

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter, Inside Out

2006-11-02 Thread WSLam
Jenks;151833 Wrote: > Yes there simply are no facts. All we have is models of the world that > we choose to use, to uncomplicate things, as you say - but as soon as > we stop challenging our models we stop learning anything new. People > don't like that kind of ambiguity, but if you embrace it

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter, Inside Out

2006-11-02 Thread Jenks
Yes there simply are no facts. All we have is models of the world that we choose to use, to uncomplicate things, as you say - but as soon as we stop challenging our models we stop learning anything new. People don't like that kind of ambiguity, but if you embrace it you are closer to the univers

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter, Inside Out

2006-11-02 Thread WSLam
Jenks;151830 Wrote: > Sorry WSlam, our posts crossed - I was of course referring to your > earlier post. Thanks for the clarification - exactly what I wanted to > know. Seems like I will probably be placing that order when I get paid > for my Genelecs. Congrat! I dont think you will regret! =)

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter, Inside Out

2006-11-02 Thread Jenks
Sorry WSlam, our posts crossed - I was of course referring to your earlier post. Thanks for the clarification - exactly what I wanted to know. Seems like I will probably be placing that order when I get paid for my Genelecs. -- Jenks

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter, Inside Out

2006-11-02 Thread WSLam
Jenks;151828 Wrote: > WSlam - easy to agree with you on that one. Being a scientist I bristle > unnecessarily at any self-professed scientist stating their knowledge > as uncontrovertible facts - idiotic given the very nature of science. > I should stop doing that. I do all my system selection

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter, Inside Out

2006-11-02 Thread WSLam
Jenks;151825 Wrote: > Compared with what Tom - I hear you like it, but do you mind if I ask > what your reference is? I want to consider the Transporter, but if its > at the level of say a SB3/Benchmark I would pass. IMO, SB3 + Benchmark is not even close. My references *were* Linn CD12, Linn

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter, Inside Out

2006-11-02 Thread Jenks
WSlam - easy to agree with you on that one. Being a scientist I bristle unnecessarily at any self-professed scientist stating their knowledge as uncontrovertible facts - idiotic given the very nature of science. I should stop doing that. I do all my system selection by listening for at least a w

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter, Inside Out

2006-11-02 Thread Jenks
Compared with what Tom - I hear you like it, but do you mind if I ask what your reference is? I want to consider the Transporter, but if its at the level of say a SB3/Benchmark I would pass. -- Jenks Jenks's Profile: http

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter, Inside Out

2006-11-01 Thread tomjtx
WSLam;151758 Wrote: > This thread will quickly turn seriously metaphysical if we continue on > this path on 'reality'. =) > > It's just a music player. you like it, you buy it. you don't like it, > don't buy it. no one is in the business to write glowing reports just > so we could convert the sk

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter, Inside Out

2006-11-01 Thread WSLam
This thread will quickly turn seriously metaphysical if we continue on this path on 'reality'. =) It's just a music player. you like it, you buy it. you don't like it, don't buy it. no one is in the business to write glowing reports just so we could convert the skeptics. who cares?! it's a 2k mac

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter, Inside Out

2006-11-01 Thread Jenks
I don't think you get my point. Any scientific truth is only true within a model of reality, not in reality itself - the very essence of what science is about - that theories can only be disproven, never proven. -- Jenks

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter, Inside Out

2006-11-01 Thread P Floding
Jenks;151728 Wrote: > Whether designing, building, modifying or just buying, we all need > models that help us decide what to do. You can say 'just listen', but > how do you listen to everything, or worse still as a designer, build > everything. I can see in Sean's posts what some of his models

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter, Inside Out

2006-11-01 Thread Jenks
Whether designing, building, modifying or just buying, we all need models that help us decide what to do. You can say 'just listen', but how do you listen to everything, or worse still as a designer, build everything. I can see in Sean's posts what some of his models are, and they are different

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter, Inside Out

2006-10-26 Thread dwc
I'm jumping in here late, but for those of you guys who are discussing opamp swapouts and the benefits of different opamps, I recommend a visit over to Xin's place: http://www.fixup.net Xin makes (arguably) the highest quality micro-amps around, and his design affords the ability to swap out opa

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter, Inside Out

2006-10-21 Thread Mark Lanctot
WSLam;139975 Wrote: > =) > > Enjoy. > > One advice for all the people waiting for their Transporters. Get some > sleep NOW. Since the Transporter arrives, I have not slept before 4am > every night. It's draining...but so exciting! Y'know - I see what you mean! With me it's the case of liking

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter, Inside Out

2006-09-30 Thread jhm731
seanadams;141256 Wrote: > Yes, although I doubt you'll find any standalone DAC today that sounds > much better. I wonder how many DAC designers would capacitor couple the AK4396's outputs to a bunch of $0.60 5534 Op Amps and make the same claim. -- jhm731

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter, Inside Out

2006-09-30 Thread WSLam
seanadams;141256 Wrote: > Yes, although I doubt you'll find any standalone DAC today that sounds > much better. It could be considered a "future proofing" feature though. Quite the statement, and yet I have to agree, espcially at the price range, or a few times exceeding the price range of the T

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter, Inside Out

2006-09-29 Thread seanadams
sbjaerum;141254 Wrote: > Thanks, but what connection/component scenario will most likely use > Transporter's word clock input? > Is the intended application of the word clock input to use Transporter > with an overly expensive external dac with word clock output that might > be better than Transp

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter, Inside Out

2006-09-29 Thread sbjaerum
seanadams;141123 Wrote: > This is the best explanation I've found: > > http://www.tnt-audio.com/clinica/diginterf1_e.html Thanks, but what connection/component scenario will most likely use Transporter's word clock input? Is the intended application of the word clock input to use Transporter wi

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter, Inside Out

2006-09-29 Thread Wayne
SoftwireEngineer;141030 Wrote: > Hi Wayne, > Do you also pass the digital out thru the Big Ben ? > Also, have you used the SB3 with the Big Ben without master clock input > ? Any comparisons ? (I am tempted by the Big Ben just as jitter > reduction device and no mods to SB3). Hi SoftwireEngineer

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter, Inside Out

2006-09-29 Thread seanadams
sbjaerum;141101 Wrote: > What is the main application of word clock input? > Connection to an external dac with word clock output, or connection to > a digital equalizer for room acoustics correction (about which I have > no knowledge)? This is the best explanation I've found: http://www.tnt-au

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter, Inside Out

2006-09-29 Thread Craig
I've got to agree with Sean, have you any idea how long a cable needs to be to develop it's characteristic impedence or how long it would need to be to generate an out of phase relfection at 44.1khz? Craig -- Craig Craig'

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter, Inside Out

2006-09-29 Thread sbjaerum
seanadams;141094 Wrote: > That is correct. Word clock in should absolutely not be used to drive > the internal DAC. That is not what it's for. What is the main application of word clock input? Connection to an external dac with word clock output, or connection to a digital equalizer for room aco

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter, Inside Out

2006-09-29 Thread WSLam
Jetlag;141033 Wrote: > Since I have never heard a snail, could you please describe what it > sounds like? Or perhaps what it's mating call sounds like? ;-) haha! rest assured, i was not turned on. -- WSLam WSLam 'Transporter' (http://www.slimdevices.com/) + 'SB3' (http://www.slimdevices.co

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter, Inside Out

2006-09-29 Thread seanadams
bludragon;141092 Wrote: > That sounds right to me - going off Sean's earlier description. I feel > like mentioning that using the transporter analogue out, with a word > clock in, will probably sound worse than without the word clock in, as > now, jitter along the word clock in path will affect

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter, Inside Out

2006-09-29 Thread bludragon
WSLam;140886 Wrote: > Ok this is what I just tried, all with Transporter set to Word Clock in > Mode. > > 1) Transorter Analog Out -> Sounds NORMAL > 2) Transorter Analog Out, I physically disconnect the clock cable -> > Sounds like a snail > 3) Transporter Digital Out, Turn off DCC2 SE Master C

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter, Inside Out

2006-09-29 Thread Jetlag
WSLam;140886 Wrote: > Sounds like a snail Since I have never heard a snail, could you please describe what it sounds like? Or perhaps what it's mating call sounds like? ;-) -- Jetlag Jetlag's Profile: http://forums.slim

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter, Inside Out

2006-09-29 Thread SoftwireEngineer
Wayne;140989 Wrote: > Sorry for the late reply. > I followed John Swenson's advice on thread "SB3 I2S direct out mod etc" > under this main Audiophiles thread. > > Wayne Hi Wayne, Do you also pass the digital out thru the Big Ben ? Also, have you used the SB3 with the Big Ben without master cloc

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter, Inside Out

2006-09-29 Thread Wayne
SoftwireEngineer;140746 Wrote: > How do you input master clock into the SB3 ? Sorry for the late reply. I followed John Swenson's advice on thread "SB3 I2S direct out mod etc" under this main Audiophiles thread. Wayne -- Wayne -

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter, Inside Out

2006-09-28 Thread WSLam
jhm731;140905 Wrote: > "Ego?" > > I don't own a five figure DAC or speakers. > > Why don't you contact Mr.Meitner at EMM Labs and ask him if he thinks > clock cables make a difference or if he would tell people they could > use a coat hanger for the connection. ;-) I don't want to turn this th

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter, Inside Out

2006-09-28 Thread WSLam
jhm731;140905 Wrote: > "Ego?" > > I don't own a five figure DAC or speakers. > > Why don't you contact Mr.Meitner at EMM Labs and ask him if he thinks > clock cables make a difference or if he would tell people they could > use a coat hanger for the connection. ;-) Money does not translate to

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter, Inside Out

2006-09-28 Thread jhm731
WSLam;140875 Wrote: > You are way too nice. > Some people listen with their ego. you just can't help those. "Ego?" I don't own a five figure DAC or speakers. Why don't you contact Mr.Meitner at EMM Labs and ask him if he thinks clock cables make a difference or if he would tell people they cou

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter, Inside Out

2006-09-28 Thread WSLam
seanadams;140778 Wrote: > WS: I think you need to make sure the word sync is really working. > > If you connect the _analog_ outputs on Transporter and then set it to > word clock in mode, then try to play a track, what do you get? It > should be playing back very slowly, like maybe 1/2 speed, s

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter, Inside Out

2006-09-28 Thread WSLam
seanadams;140785 Wrote: > You don't need to "trust" anyone. Just read about how clock syncing > works and you will understand! Once you have confined the clock > integrity issue to the DAC, the only issue then becomes getting the > data to it. > > I'm sure there are those who will claim that c

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter, Inside Out

2006-09-28 Thread WSLam
atkinsonrr;140861 Wrote: > WSlam, I am wondering if it would be possible to see pics of the innards > of the DCC2SE? I would love to hear some of the more technically-savvy > folks here do a compare and contrast between the DCC2SE and > Transporter, and speculate on what gives the DCC its superi

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter, Inside Out

2006-09-28 Thread atkinsonrr
WSlam, I am wondering if it would be possible to see pics of the innards of the DCC2SE? I would love to hear some of the more technically-savvy folks here do a compare and contrast between the DCC2SE and Transporter, and speculate on what gives the DCC its superior clarity, spatial cues, air, etc

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter, Inside Out

2006-09-28 Thread jhm731
jbm0;140768 Wrote: > From http://www.cerioustechnologies.com/Cables/dig_cables.html: > > Cerious Technologies pulled out all the stops with a ground up > design that breaks the barriers of the digital medium. > > Little techno-double-entendre there, huh? > > Here all week. Tip your waitress.

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter, Inside Out

2006-09-28 Thread seanadams
You don't need to "trust" anyone. Just read about how clock syncing works and you will understand! Once you have confined the clock integrity issue to the DAC, the only issue then becomes getting the data to it. I'm sure there are those who will claim that clock sync cable quality is critical,

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter, Inside Out

2006-09-28 Thread jhm731
WSLam;140769 Wrote: > No offense, but I think I will trust Sean. No offense, but I think I will trust my friend, who has been running a high end clock sync'd digital system for years. -- jhm731 jhm731's Profile: http://f

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter, Inside Out

2006-09-28 Thread seanadams
WS: I think you need to make sure the word sync is really working. If you connect the _analog_ outputs on Transporter and then set it to word clock in mode, then try to play a track, what do you get? It should be playing back very slowly, like maybe 1/2 speed, since it has no valid clock input.

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter, Inside Out

2006-09-28 Thread WSLam
You are absolutely right. I meant to say B>A>C. -- WSLam WSLam 'Transporter' (http://www.slimdevices.com/) + 'SB3' (http://www.slimdevices.com/) -> 'EMM Labs DCC2 SE' (www.emmlabs.com/html/audio/dcc2/dcc2.html) -> 'Acoustic Reality eAR1001' (http://www.acoustic-reality.com) -> 'Magico Mini' (h

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter, Inside Out

2006-09-28 Thread jbm0
WSLam;140756 Wrote: > Did nothing by A/B/C listening between A) unclocked Trans+DCC2SE, B) > clocked Trans+DCC2SE and C)Trans Analog Out. > > You are absolutely right. I think what shocked me initially turns out > to be a level of fidelity I have not experienced before. Things are SO > clear it'

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter, Inside Out

2006-09-28 Thread WSLam
jhm731;140765 Wrote: > I know a DCC2 owner who feels digital clock cables make > a difference. He now uses BNC digital cables from: > www.cerioustechnologies.com[/url]. No offense, but I think I will trust Sean. -- WSLam WSLam 'Transporter' (http://www.slimdevices.com/) + 'SB3' (http://www.s

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter, Inside Out

2006-09-28 Thread jbm0
jhm731;140765 Wrote: > I know a DCC2 owner who feels digital clock cables make > a difference. He now uses BNC digital cables from: > www.cerioustechnologies.com[/url]. >From http://www.cerioustechnologies.com/Cables/dig_cables.html: Cerious Technologies pulled out all the stops with a ground u

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter, Inside Out

2006-09-28 Thread jhm731
shokunin;140664 Wrote: > Ideally you would want 75 ohm cables and not 50ohm. I'm using a > non-signature DCC2 with Stealth XLR cable and Stealth BNC cable for the > word clock. I've not received my transporter yet, but it has shipped. > If you are using 50ohm cables, you may be getting reflect

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter, Inside Out

2006-09-28 Thread WSLam
SoftwireEngineer;140740 Wrote: > Your description seems to fit in with my experience in reducing jitter. > Either when using a better digital cable (a glass toslink) or when I > added a modded Elpac to my SB3. > Again, I feel the jitter spectrum of the SB3 (and based on your 'too > dry' descripti

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter, Inside Out

2006-09-28 Thread SoftwireEngineer
Wayne;140669 Wrote: > Hi WSLam, > > I use Big Ben for master clock input to SB3. For Big Ben, I need to > select internal clock as well as the clock frequenct for the output > clock reference. Same logic may imply on the DCC2. > > Good luck and please share more detail on what you feel wrong

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter, Inside Out

2006-09-28 Thread SoftwireEngineer
WSLam;140704 Wrote: > Ok, done more listening. Let me describe what I am hearing. > > Using DCC2 SE in Master Clock mode, BNC out to Transporter Word Clock > In. Changed settings in Player Settings... > > It sounds different. I was at first a little confused to the sound, but > after more liste

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter, Inside Out

2006-09-28 Thread WSLam
Ok, done more listening. Let me describe what I am hearing. Using DCC2 SE in Master Clock mode, BNC out to Transporter Word Clock In. Changed settings in Player Settings... It sounds different. I was at first a little confused to the sound, but after more listening, and comparing it with and wit

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter, Inside Out

2006-09-28 Thread WSLam
Thanks Wayne. I had a Big Ben too, that I used briefly with my SB3 and TacT. so yes I am sort of aware... but I am not familiar with the DCC2 SE Master Clock mode... need to explore more. Wayne;140669 Wrote: > Hi WSLam, > > I use Big Ben for master clock input to SB3. For Big Ben, I need to >

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter, Inside Out

2006-09-28 Thread seanadams
WSLam;140660 Wrote: > > That's all the changes I need to make right? It sounds different, but I > am not sure if I like what I am hearing... maybe I just need to get used > to it, or maybe I did something wrong with the settings? If it is not in sync it should be obvious - you'll hear occasiona

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter, Inside Out

2006-09-28 Thread Wayne
WSLam;140666 Wrote: > According to Sean, a coat hanger would do for the clock cable. Hi WSLam, I use Big Ben for master clock input to SB3. For Big Ben, I need to select internal clock as well as the clock frequenct for the output clock reference. Same logic may imply on the DCC2. Good luck

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter, Inside Out

2006-09-28 Thread shokunin
WSLam;140525 Wrote: > Bought a 2m 50ohm BNC Cable for US2.5. > > I think this is as cheap as they get... =) Ideally you would want 75 ohm cables and not 50ohm. I'm using a non-signature DCC2 with Stealth XLR cable and Stealth BNC cable for the word clock. I've not received my transporter yet

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter, Inside Out

2006-09-28 Thread WSLam
shokunin;140664 Wrote: > Ideally you would want 75 ohm cables and not 50ohm. I'm using a > non-signature DCC2 with Stealth XLR cable and Stealth BNC cable for the > word clock. I've not received my transporter yet, but hopefully soon. According to Sean, a coat hanger would do for the clock cab

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter, Inside Out

2006-09-28 Thread WSLam
Ok, so hooked up the BNC cable on the Transporter to the Word Clock Out from my DCC2 SE. Turned off Slave mode on DCC2 SE, and went to Player Settings: DIGITAL OUTPUT ENCODING -> AES/EBU (using XLR) CLOCK SOURCE -> Word Clock Input That's all the changes I need to make right? It sounds different

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter, Inside Out

2006-09-28 Thread WSLam
seanadams;140295 Wrote: > Yes, a coat hanger will work too. :) Bought a 2m 50ohm BNC Cable for US2.5. I think this is as cheap as they get... =) -- WSLam WSLam 'Transporter' (http://www.slimdevices.com/) + 'SB3' (http://www.slimdevices.com/) -> 'EMM Labs DCC2 SE' (www.emmlabs.com/html/audi

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter, Inside Out

2006-09-28 Thread WSLam
ajmitchell;140506 Wrote: > I agree, WSLam has take some great pics here in a modern setting. I > particularly like > http://photos.lam.ws/gallery/1930618/2/97851478/Large > as this shows the actual unit working with the real displays. The > problem you would have with the pre-production is that y

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter, Inside Out

2006-09-28 Thread ajmitchell
I agree, WSLam has take some great pics here in a modern setting. I particularly like http://photos.lam.ws/gallery/1930618/2/97851478/Large as this shows the actual unit working with the real displays. The problem you would have with the pre-production is that you would not have the displays runni

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter, Inside Out

2006-09-27 Thread jhm731
WSLam- Wonderful pictures. Thanks. Interesting that there's no RFI/EMI shielding around that cute little SMPS. Good spot for some ERS material. Don't see any filtering on the IEC input either. -- jhm731 jhm731's Profile

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter, Inside Out

2006-09-27 Thread seanadams
Ben Diss;140399 Wrote: > Sean- Not fer nutin' but you should think about licensing WSLam's > photos for your marketing. I think he just put me over the edge > towards getting one as I sit here and drool over his audio porn pics. > Seriously, it's good work. > > -Ben I'm with you there - I've

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter, Inside Out

2006-09-27 Thread WSLam
Ben Diss;140399 Wrote: > Sean- Not fer nutin' but you should think about licensing WSLam's > photos for your marketing. I think he just put me over the edge > towards getting one as I sit here and drool over his audio porn pics. > Seriously, it's good work. > > -Ben Thank you Ben! The Transp

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter, Inside Out

2006-09-27 Thread Ben Diss
Sean- Not fer nutin' but you should think about licensing WSLam's photos for your marketing. I think he just put me over the edge towards getting one as I sit here and drool over his audio porn pics. Seriously, it's good work. -Ben -- Ben Diss ---

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter, Inside Out

2006-09-27 Thread tomsi42
seanadams;140295 Wrote: > Yes, a coat hanger will work too. :) Won't work here in Norway - we have plastic coathangers here ;) -- tomsi42 SB3, Rotel RC-1070/RB-1070, dynaBel Exact, Kimber Kable 4TC and Timbre. tomsi42'

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter, Inside Out

2006-09-27 Thread WSLam
seanadams;140295 Wrote: > Yes, a coat hanger will work too. :) haha got it! =) Will try using my body as a conductor first =) -- WSLam WSLam 'Transporter' (http://www.slimdevices.com/) + 'SB3' (http://www.slimdevices.com/) -> 'EMM Labs DCC2 SE' (www.emmlabs.com/html/audio/dcc2/dcc2.html) ->

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter, Inside Out

2006-09-27 Thread seanadams
WSLam;140289 Wrote: > Thanks again. I have a 75ohm cable lying around already with one BNC > connector on one end. All I would need to do is to change the other > connector. Will that do too? Yes, a coat hanger will work too. :) -- seanadams ---

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter, Inside Out

2006-09-27 Thread WSLam
seanadams;140283 Wrote: > For the sync cable, correct. It is only a 44.1khz square wave. Thanks again. I have a 75ohm cable lying around already with one BNC connector on one end. All I would need to do is to change the other connector. Will that do too? -- WSLam WSLam 'Transporter' (http://

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter, Inside Out

2006-09-27 Thread seanadams
WSLam;140282 Wrote: > Thanks, so not even 75ohm spec? Any normal phono cable will do? If so, I > will DIY it. For the sync cable, correct. It is only a 44.1khz square wave. -- seanadams seanadams's Profile: http://forums

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter, Inside Out

2006-09-27 Thread WSLam
seanadams;140278 Wrote: > Any cable will do for the clock sync. The whole principle of clock > slaving is that it confines the effective clock path to the circuits > inside the DAC. Thus it truly makes absolutely no difference what kind > of cables you use as long as the data makes it across.

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter, Inside Out

2006-09-27 Thread seanadams
WSLam;140276 Wrote: > > I need to get a clock cable soon to try out the clock function... any > coax cable with BNC connectors will do? Any cable will do for the clock sync. The whole principle of clock slaving is that it confines the effective clock path to the circuits inside the DAC. Thus

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter, Inside Out

2006-09-27 Thread WSLam
I think most of us here agree the top notch support SD provides. They just fixed a WMA Lossless bug that has been bugging me for ages! Very glad... And porn... well, the clothes is back on and it is once again singing. =) I need to get a clock cable soon to try out the clock function... any coax

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter, Inside Out

2006-09-27 Thread m1abrams
Sorry for the OT post. But how many other companies in any industry have a CEO who will gladly answer techinical questions about their product in an open forum? And will even take critiques on the design. I currently do not have the funds for a Transporter but when I do you can sure bet I will

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter, Inside Out

2006-09-26 Thread WSLam
Chaka;140048 Wrote: > Hi Sean- No, I can't claim it would be but historically many find > discrete stages sound better than opamps, but its a long debated thing > that I amn sure you are fully aware of. Nice unit you got there btw, > congrats!!! Hope to hear one some day. Maybe Sean's engineerin

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter, Inside Out

2006-09-26 Thread Walleyefisher
Sean - Looks like a clean design...very nice. Congrats I can't wait til mine shows up. Will there be an hardware upgrade path for the Transporter? Looks like there is plenty of room for a daughter board or three. LOL -- Walleyefisher --

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter, Inside Out

2006-09-26 Thread seanadams
// 1. Is each output phase/channel produced by a single 5534 recieving both phases of that channel from the dac. The other output phase is produced by the same but with the output phases of the dac chip reversed for input into the other opamp? No, it is separate (one amp per phase per channel) fr

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter, Inside Out

2006-09-26 Thread occam
Sean, Thanks for the reply. Given your choice of dac and ouput chips - 1. Is each output phase/channel produced by a single 5534 recieving both phases of that channel from the dac. The other output phase is produced by the same but with the output phases of the dac chip reversed for input into t

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter, Inside Out

2006-09-26 Thread Pat Farrell
Chaka wrote: Ha ha, I like the sarcasm. I am far and away not an expert on circuit design and don't know enough about opamp vs. discrete, I was just pointing out an observation so I can't add to the argument. Well, part of it is true. Many Audiophiles and so-called Recording Engineers swear t

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter, Inside Out

2006-09-26 Thread Chaka
Ha ha, I like the sarcasm. I am far and away not an expert on circuit design and don't know enough about opamp vs. discrete, I was just pointing out an observation so I can't add to the argument. I have a DAC that totally kicks butt and it has an opamp analog stage. Just an observation is all. -

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter, Inside Out

2006-09-26 Thread Wombat
WSLam;140010 Wrote: > I am no DIY person. > Can you directly replace the OP? Are they perfect substitues? The OPA627 isn´t that critical. There are parts with utopic high bandwiths that would need a different layout. So it should work as direct replacement. Btw. i´d expect something different f

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter, Inside Out

2006-09-26 Thread Pat Farrell
Chaka;140042 Wrote: would have guessed it would have been a discrete component design given the price. No, to get into serious audiophile pricing, Sean and company would have to at least double it, maybe add a zero. seanadams wrote: how would that be better? I'm not Chaka, so I'm just but

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter, Inside Out

2006-09-26 Thread Chaka
Hi Sean- No, I can't claim it would be but historically many find discrete stages sound better than opamps, but its a long debated thing that I amn sure you are fully aware of. Nice unit you got there btw, congrats!!! Hope to hear one some day. -- Chaka -

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter, Inside Out

2006-09-26 Thread seanadams
occam;140041 Wrote: > Sean, > > Are you making use of the compensation pins on the 5534s, and if so > howso? > > TIA, > Paul No, they're open. -- seanadams seanadams's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter, Inside Out

2006-09-26 Thread Chaka
So, is the analog output an opamp based design? Hmmm, would have guessed it would have been a discrete component design given the price. NE5534's aren't really the pinnacle of opamps. But if it sounds good that is all that matters. -- Chaka --

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter, Inside Out

2006-09-26 Thread occam
Sean, Are you making use of the compensation pins on the 5534s, and if so howso? TIA, Paul -- occam occam's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=949 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/sho

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter, Inside Out

2006-09-26 Thread Wombat
ezkcdude;140030 Wrote: > Is this technically true? Look at top page 4 of the data sheet. It says > the maximum supply voltage is 27.3 V. Does this mean +/- half of this > value (~13.6)? You´re right. +/-13.6. If the Transporter has higher voltage it wouldn´t fit. 15V is pretty common. -- Womb

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter, Inside Out

2006-09-26 Thread ezkcdude
seanadams;140015 Wrote: > Also note AD8610 can not run at +/-15V. Is this technically true? Look at top page 4 of the data sheet. It says the maximum supply voltage is 27.3 V. Does this mean +/- half of this value (~13.6)? -- ezkcdude DIY projects page: http://www.cellandtissue.com/diy.html

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter, Inside Out

2006-09-26 Thread Wombat
Yes. But OPA627 is anything but exotic. These NE55xx types are one of the best, solid OPs ever manufactured for sure. -- Wombat Wombat's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4113 View this thread: http:

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter, Inside Out

2006-09-26 Thread seanadams
Wombat;140006 Wrote: > OPA627/AD8610 for example. Those are higher bandwidth / higher slew-rate parts, for which you usually have to trade for higher noise levels NJRs 5534s are very good - I'm not saying there's nothing better in the world, but improving on it would not be as easy as rand

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter, Inside Out

2006-09-26 Thread WSLam
I am no DIY person. Can you directly replace the OP? Are they perfect substitues? -- WSLam WSLam 'Transporter' (http://www.slimdevices.com/) + 'SB3' (http://www.slimdevices.com/) -> 'EMM Labs DCC2 SE' (www.emmlabs.com/html/audio/dcc2/dcc2.html) -> 'Acoustic Reality eAR1001' (http://www.acousti

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter, Inside Out

2006-09-26 Thread Wombat
OPA627/AD8610 for example. -- Wombat Wombat's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4113 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=27927 __

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter, Inside Out

2006-09-26 Thread WSLam
Wombat;139998 Wrote: > Well, myself wouldn´t resist. Just a little soldering on the OPs :) What do you plan to do? Please share... -- WSLam WSLam 'Transporter' (http://www.slimdevices.com/) + 'SB3' (http://www.slimdevices.com/) -> 'EMM Labs DCC2 SE' (www.emmlabs.com/html/audio/dcc2/dcc2.html

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter, Inside Out

2006-09-26 Thread Wombat
WSLam;139994 Wrote: > Before I listened to it, I was full of ideas about modifying it. After I > listened to it, I have NO desire to 'experiment' with such a fine > design. Give it a good listen before you send it to someone who claims > that they could improve it... I rather spend the money to g

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter, Inside Out

2006-09-26 Thread WSLam
Wombat;139989 Wrote: > Great photos! This thing is pretty well build. NE5534 in the exit... At > least some space left for experimenting :) Before I listened to it, I was full of ideas about modifying it. After I listened to it, I have NO desire to 'experiment' with such a fine design. Give it a

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter, Inside Out

2006-09-26 Thread Wombat
Great photos! This thing is pretty well build. NE5534 in the exit... At least some space left for experimenting :) -- Wombat Wombat's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4113 View this thread: http://f

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter, Inside Out

2006-09-26 Thread tomsi42
WSLam;139980 Wrote: > Haha! =) > You know what, you are the second person who referred these pics as > 'porn' to me! And I won't be the last one! A friend of mine has ordered one, so I will be able to look and listen in a few weeks time... Enjoy. Tom -- tomsi42 SB3, Rotel RC-1070/RB-1070

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter, Inside Out

2006-09-26 Thread WSLam
It is worth the wait. I do not think you will be disappointed! -- WSLam WSLam 'Transporter' (http://www.slimdevices.com/) + 'SB3' (http://www.slimdevices.com/) | 'Unidisk 1.1' (http://www.knekt.com/spec_sound/product_display.cfm?ProductID=179&activeNavBar=products&activeSubNavBar=Source) -> '

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