Yeah, I'm still using Blue Jeans Canare balanced interconnects and their
optical digital interconnect from my Squeezebox3 to the Benchmark DAC1.
The Krell KAV400 must obviously be run balanced.
You could probably buy cables at 20 times the cost and have an
improvement, but I'm not willing to try
Usually channels separation and S/N ratio are highest with Balanced XLR.
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Going from single-ended to balanced on a Krell KAV 400 is not a subtle
change and it's about much more than noise rejection
If you're running balanced on go to single ended, the system suddenly
strike you as cold and sterile, going back to balanced brings back the
natural balance.
I don't
haraldo;280015 Wrote:
[...]
I don't know what it is, but this amplifier must be run balanced in
order to get the full benefit of the product. [...]
I don't know what this is and why it is like this, but this is very
audible and certainly not about a placebo effect.
-H :-D
I'm
You should indeed be very fine! running balanced from the transporter to
the KAV-400xi
You should get the balanced interconnect ASAP
Yes I did A/B test between running balanced with the canare XLR and a
top of the line Kimber Select rca Silver cable. The benchmark DAC1 has
both balanced and
haraldo;280015 Wrote:
I don't know what this is and why it is like this, but this is very
audible and certainly not about a placebo effect.
Haraldo,
Did you match levels exactly when you did the comparison? (As I
understand it the balanced output is louder.)
Darren
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darrenyeats;280096 Wrote:
Haraldo,
Did you match levels exactly when you did the comparison? (As I
understand it the balanced output is louder.)
Darren
Well not like John Atkinson does, but I listened at similar SPL's and
the difference is imminent.
It's correct that the balanced output
haraldo;261906 Wrote:
[...]
Changing from those very expensive cables to ordinary (very cheap)
balanced canare cables from Blue Jeans cables was such an improvement
that it just beats me what's going on It was just impossible not to
hear the improvement
Probably, the KAV400xi
The issue of running unbalanced or balanced is very dependent on the
rig...
I was running unbalanced to my Krell KAV400xi with high-end Kimber
Select silver cables.
Changing from those very expensive cables to ordinary (very cheap)
balanced canare cables from Blue Jeans cables was such an
Interesting. I don't know what actually helped: new power cables, new
interconnect or moving from RCA to XLR. The brightness has almost gone.
The sibilants are still quite noticeable, but the sound has improved a
lot.
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alekz;257335 Wrote:
Currently I switched from RCA to XLR. XLR in my fully balanced system
sounds SLIGHTLY better (greater sense of ease). But I'm not sure if the
cable is fully broken in yet, I bought it used a couple of days ago, so
I expect more in a week or so ;-)
Some results after 4
egd;257440 Wrote:
What saddle and bridle are you using?
MIT Oracle 3.1 and 3.2 (the new one).
The power cables are MIT Oracle Z-Cord III, Magnum AC1 and Synergistic
Research Master Coupler (this one needs to be replaced)
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I chose Pathos Leben purely on my listening. I auditioned other
integrateds, both solid state tube, including Musical Fidelity A5,
VTI IT-85, Creeks, etc etc... but the Pathos the Leben were my
favorites in the end. Pathos definitely has a great build quality,
although the Leben's is no
bigfool1956;257209 Wrote:
One thing the TP isn't is bright. It is clear and extended in the
treble, but bright? No.
I wasn't talking about TP, but more about the Leben's sound
characteristics.
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One thing the TP isn't is bright. It is clear and extended in the
treble, but bright? No.
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David Ayers
Music is what counts, hifi just helps us enjoy it more
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I find the XLR to sound quite a bit better than RCA. I wouldn't want to
go back to RCA with my balanced amp. When I single blind AB'd the 2,
the balanced won out every time
I do use the RCA outs on The TP to feed my tube headphone amp which is
not balanced (DarkVoice337 AKG701) and it does
Keep in mind that a direct comparison of a balanced vs unbalanced
connection is difficult. A true balanced connection will be louder than
an unbalanced one which complicates matching gain in the comparison. It
is difficult for a home user to precisely match volume levels when
switching back and
bigfool1956;257209 Wrote:
One thing the TP isn't is bright. It is clear and extended in the
treble, but bright? No.
I would call it disturbingly bright and sibilant with recessed
middle. At least in my system (PassLabs x1-x250, Martin Logan
Ascent). It's WAY brighter than Meridian's 5xx, Linn
mlsstl;257299 Wrote:
Keep in mind that a direct comparison of a balanced vs unbalanced
connection is difficult. A true balanced connection will be louder than
an unbalanced one which complicates matching gain in the comparison. It
is difficult for a home user to precisely match volume levels
Just to amplify on what Sean said above, the improvements some people
are hearing might have more to do with the input stage of their
amps/preamps, or something else in their system (such as ground loops),
than with the TP itself. Hence it's a bit risky to extrapolate those
experiences to any
opaqueice;257316 Wrote:
Just to amplify on what Sean said above, the improvements some people
are hearing might have more to do with the input stage of their
amps/preamps, or something else in their system (such as ground loops),
than with the TP itself. Hence it's a bit risky to
alekz wrote:
bigfool1956;257209 Wrote:
One thing the TP isn't is bright. It is clear and extended in the
treble, but bright? No.
I would call it disturbingly bright and sibilant with recessed
middle. At least in my system (PassLabs x1-x250, Martin Logan
Ascent). It's WAY brighter than
alekz;257335 Wrote:
But I'm not sure if the cable is fully broken in yet, I bought it used a
couple of days ago, so I expect more in a week or so ;-)
What saddle and bridle are you using?
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Thecus N5200PRO Transporter ATC SCA2 ATC SCM100SLAT
Hi, guys. Thanks for all your input in the other thread re: using CD
player as DAC. You've successfully convinced me to go w/ the
Transporter instead of a $3000+ CD player; I'm a converter.
My question is about the sound quality of Transporter when connected
via balanced XLR vs. unbalanced RCA.
selfdivider;257061 Wrote:
Hi, guys. Thanks for all your input in the other thread re: using CD
player as DAC. You've successfully convinced me to go w/ the
Transporter instead of a $3000+ CD player; I'm a converter.
My question is about the sound quality of Transporter when connected
via
While I greatly look up to Sean and bow to his greater knowledge,
nevertheless I have to disagree with that last statement.
My system has short cable lengths and the environment is not
electrically very noisy.
Still, with all types of gear so far, I have always noticed an
improvement when using
I have the same question, but is the Transporter a true balanced
configuration?
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riffer;257079 Wrote:
I have the same question, but is the Transporter a true balanced
configuration?
Yes, output stage is really fully balanced. There have been several
posts about the opamp layout I think.
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SuperQ
I had the Transporter connected with RCA cables to my Pathos for the
fist 2 months until I decided to give its Balanced capability a try.
Its difficult to differentiate between what the cable construction
itself and the XLR configuration did to the overall musical rendering,
but all I can tell
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