edwardthern wrote:
> I post here so that FINALLY there can be good content here, you should
> thank me
Promises, promises.
So when are you going to make a 180 degree turn in what you are doing
and start posting content that is worth the dynamite to blow it to
?
I am willing to wait the necessa
bernt wrote:
> Does the beer taste better if it come from a beer fridge than from a
> standard fridge?
That depends. If you can reach inside the fridge without leaving your
listening chair then hell yes it sounds better. You need to be wary of
introducing noise into your system. A battery-powere
Now I have switched the switch.
And Wow! Normaly I need at least 3 beers to enjoy this type of
recordings.
http://dr.loudness-war.info/album/view/118682
Now I started to enjoy it after only two beers, no wait, was it
after...lets see I had 5 now, or six? The two drinks before dinner and
the
arnyk wrote:
> Then why are you wasting everybody's time including your own posting
> here?
>
>
>
> I'd be willing to bet that very few audiophiles think that technical
> ignorance and belief in placebo effects are what makes the audio hobby
> what it is, yet those are all you have offered us
edwardthern wrote:
> Yes of course, my heart is faulty
Same ailment that affects your ears?
kidstypike
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Pi/piCorePlayer/HiFiBerry
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edwardthern wrote:
> Actually there is nothing worthwhile coming from this Forum.
>
Then why are you wasting everybody's time including your own posting
here?
>
> Why even join an audio forum if you DON"T believe in any of the elements
> that make the hobby what it is?
>
I'd be willing
drmatt wrote:
> So, arnyk vs edwardthern. I'm beginning to wonder if they are long lost
> twins...?
>
I was thinking about you and edwardthern being two aliases for the same
troll. After all, neither of you are making any pretense about posting
under your legal names.
The greatest points of co
edwardthern wrote:
> Yes of course, my heart is faulty
If I were you, I'd be far more concerned about my non-existent
credibility around here.
Something about all of the gross technical errors (list on request) and
also the many false claims.
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sfraser wrote:
> I don't hear differences in ethernet cables on my system, that's why i
> asked you. I am trying to isolate the conditions under which you hear
> these differences. I can't recall, but I do believe there are
> differences in how they spec'd the grounding requirements in the variou
edwardthern wrote:
> Sorry I don't have several switches.
>
> I take it you've already done this. What did you hear?
I don't hear differences in ethernet cables on my system, that's why i
asked you. I am trying to isolate the conditions under which you hear
these differences. I can't recall
sfraser wrote:
> What about in series?
>
> Try connecting several ethernet switch's in series, (not in a loop
> however!) with the SB directly connected to switch one and the LMS
> server connected to switch 3. Swap out the cable connecting the LMS and
> switch 3 with your best sounding cable a
So, arnyk vs edwardtherm. I'm beginning to wonder if they are long lost
twins...?
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What about in series?
Try connecting several ethernet switch's in series, (not in a loop
however!) with the SB directly connected to switch one and the LMS
server connected to switch 3. Swap out the cable connecting the LMS and
switch 3 with your best sounding cable and let me know.
2 CHAN. S
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Hi Ed, I did not run away , I was on a conference call with customers,
imagine..discussing Ethernet Satellites funny enough. Anyway you
never answered my earlier question regarding if you feel you could hear
the difference between 2 music file"s that had been transferred from
host to hos
sfraser wrote:
> Hi Ed, I did not run away , I was on a conference call with customers,
> imagine..discussing Ethernet Satellites funny enough. Anyway you
> never answered my earlier question regarding if you feel you could hear
> the difference between 2 music file"s that had been trans
Wombat wrote:
> I troll this forum for 10 years now and wonder how other members after
> your first posts still thought there is anything worthwile coming from
> you.
Actually there is nothing worthwhile coming from this Forum.
Why even join an audio forum if you DON"T believe in any of the ele
edwardthern wrote:
> You're a troll, go back into your mother's basement.
I troll this forum for 10 years now and wonder how other members after
your first posts still thought there is anything worthwile coming from
you.
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Mnyb wrote:
> The topc was not i2s transfer methods but ethernet networking .
>
> Yes i do own this gear . Meridian is quite objektive in their designs ,
> they have gone wrong with MQA and hirez.
> They are not in the voodoo anf magic as other brands, They ste mostoy
> rigth and maybe 5 times t
I see armyk/sfraser ran away.
How childish to post under two different monikers.
And to get BUSTEDLMAO¡!!!
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edwardthern wrote:
> Seeing that you don't believe in audiophile I2s transfer methods why
> would you buy a product that uses it?
>
> If you even own the great in your signature Which I doubt
The topc was not i2s transfer methods but ethernet networking .
Yes i do own this gear . Meridian
Wombat wrote:
> Shit, you got me! I am not a Wombat.
You're a troll, go back into your mother's basement.
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edwardthern wrote:
> Are you another one of sfraser/arnyk's fake persona?
>
Shit, you got me! I am not a Wombat.
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Wombat wrote:
> edwardthern, better check your blood sugar, Troll-adiposity in sight
> from feeding!
Are you another one of sfraser/arnyk's fake persona?
Sounding more and more like this place is a small den of trolls. Deaf
trolls
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from feeding!
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arnyk wrote:
> Wrong again. You made the claim that you were perfectly aware of the
> ability of my audio gear to discern certain things. But, it is now
> obvious that you have no idea what it is.
>
> Edward, that makes you either delusional or a liar. Which is it?
You grabbed my text from a po
arnyk wrote:
> Absolutely false.
>
> Sorry, many but now you are just stacking up more evidence that you are
> making this up as you go along.
>
> We can add to your list of faults that your rendition of the history of
> audio is just as error-filled as your comments about current
> technology.
edwardthern wrote:
> So you take a sentence I posted to someone else sfraser and try to make
> it seem like I posted it to you. Such a childish trick, are you
> insane?
>
> Or are you posting as two people!!
> Busted!¡
Wrong again. You made the claim that you were perfectly aware o
edwardthern wrote:
> Wrong don't be a sheep all your life.
>
> Tubes first application was for amplifying power. It was years later
> that radio picked it up
Absolutely false.
Sorry, many but now you are just stacking up more evidence that you are
making this up as you go along.
We can add to
arnyk wrote:
> If you can't immediately provide an accurate list of the gear in my
> audio system, you are then a proven liar.
So you take a sentence I posted to someone else sfraser and try to make
it seem like I posted it to you. Such a childish trick, are you
insane?
Or are you posting
arnyk wrote:
> Another example of your abject ignorance. The answer is as others have
> already correctly posted. Tubes were first applied as amplifiers in
> radios, which was the audio of the day.
Wrong don't be a sheep all your life.
Tubes first application was for amplifying power. It was ye
edwardthern wrote:
> You'd never hear a difference with your gear.
>
If you can't immediately provide an accurate list of the gear in my
audio system, you are then a proven liar.
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arnyk wrote:
> The more knowlegable one is, the more they can explain.
>
> One of the things that can explain a lot of perceptions, is an
> understanding of sensory illusions and perceptual bias.
>
>
>
> Absolutely - Ever hear of the Placebo Effect? Apparently not. I guess
> it was never par
edwardthern wrote:
> Were vacuum tubes initially designed for audio?
>
> Hm
Another example of your abject ignorance. The answer is as others have
already correctly posted. Tubes were first applied as amplifiers in
radios, which was the audio of the day.
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edwardthern wrote:
> I feel that my senses are able to pick up on a lot of things that I
> can't explain. How about you?
>
The more knowlegable one is, the more they can explain.
One of the things that can explain a lot of perceptions, is an
understanding of sensory illusions and perceptual bi
edwardthern wrote:
> You guys are getting deeper and deeper into the land of nonsense.
>
> You don't feel the slight bit embarrassed?
Only because we are still paying attention to your posts.
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I really hope all of you guys are atheist.
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'Mark' (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_V_Shaney), is that you?
"To try to judge the real from the false will always be hard. In this
fast-growing art of 'high fidelity' the quackery will bear a solid gilt
edge that will fool many people" - Paul W Klipsch, 1953
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sfraser wrote:
> Question: Do you feel if music content (files) are transferred from one
> storage location to another, over an Ethernet network and played back at
> a later date that there would be a difference in sound depending on the
> Ethernet cable used in the Ethernet network during the in
Question: Do you feel if music content (files) are transferred from one
storage location to another, over an Ethernet network and played back at
a later date that there would be a difference in sound depending on the
Ethernet cable used in the Ethernet network during the initial transfer?
2 CHA
You realize the increased BW and reduced crosstalk of the different CAT
cables can in no way be directly utilized by the music ? It simply
allows for a higher signalling rate which increases the error free
frames per second . The music is simply payload within the IP packet
that is contained withi
sfraser wrote:
> You realize the increased BW and reduced crosstalk of the different CAT
> cables can in no way be directly utilized by the music ? It simply
> allows for a higher signalling rate which increases the error free
> frames per second . The music is simply payload within the IP packet
edwardthern wrote:
> Were vacuum tubes initially designed for audio?
Not that it is in any way relevant, but actually yes. First as detectors
(diodes) in radio receivers, and then as amplifiers (triodes) in radio
receivers and telephone systems.
'Okamura, Sōgo (1994). History of Electron Tubes
Mnyb wrote:
> I have personally brougth several AQ cables for recycling instead of
> selling them second hand after my fling with audiophilia ended.
>
> Sugest we bash thier doors down, they are a fraud .
>
> Byw the topic here is do different ethernet cables thats up to spec
> makes a differen
edwardthern wrote:
> As always you guys like to go off on tangents that make no difference to
> the real subject.
>
> Subject = Ethernet cables can affect sound quality
>
> I suggest you all go beat down the doors of Audioquest, WireWorld and
> every consumer who has purchased their products an
Julf wrote:
> Yes, because I2S is intended to connect IC's inside a single device
> (usually on the same circuit board). It was never intended as a solution
> for connecting boxes (and thus needing a cable).
Were vacuum tubes initially designed for audio?
Hm
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I just realized... You people are handicapped.
Some people have handicaps that prevent them from seeing, walking, or
climbing stairs You people have handicaps that prevent you from
hearing.
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edwardthern wrote:
> So your claim is manufacturers are wrong for using Ethernet and HDMI
> cables to transmit I2S?
Yes, because I2S is intended to connect IC's inside a single device
(usually on the same circuit board). It was never intended as a solution
for connecting boxes (and thus needing
edwardthern wrote:
> You don't feel the slight bit embarrassed?
We do, for forgetting one of the most crucial rules on the internet -
"don't feed the troll".
"To try to judge the real from the false will always be hard. In this
fast-growing art of 'high fidelity' the quackery will bear a soli
You guys are getting deeper and deeper into the land of nonsense.
You don't feel the slight bit embarrassed?
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Julf wrote:
> "... when used in the wrong place (as I2S connection)". Well played! You
> must be rolling on the floor with laughter.
So your claim is manufacturers are wrong for using Ethernet and HDMI
cables to transmit I2S?
You figure you have a better idea and know more than they do, okay t
edwardthern wrote:
> Subject = Ethernet cables can affect sound quality
"... when used in the wrong place (as I2S connection)". Well played! You
must be rolling on the floor with laughter.
"To try to judge the real from the false will always be hard. In this
fast-growing art of 'high fidelity
As always you guys like to go off on tangents that make no difference to
the real subject.
Subject = Ethernet cables can affect sound quality
I suggest you all go beat down the doors of Audioquest, WireWorld and
every consumer who has purchased their products and have noticed an
improvement.
Ei
edwardthern wrote:
> Same cable
do you understand the idea, completely different aplication for the same
cable ?
It does npt matter if it is the same cable . The task at hand is diffent
.
The ethernet/internet interface is very very robust , a hardware
interface suchnas i2s is fndamentaly diff
edwardthern wrote:
> I see a pattern.
>
Since it is both solipsistic and ego centric, I have no doubt about
that.
A bunch of angry people with avg gear and poor hearing
[/quote wrote:
>
>
> It would be reasonable at this time to provide reliable evidence that
> you are not also afflicted wi
edwardthern wrote:
> If you "Know This" then why can't you connect the dots?
>
> Cable lengths did not increase, companies etc. still use the same cable
> lengths they used before. However the standard changed to support
> "Current" cable lengths with better performance. The "Goalposts" did not
edwardthern wrote:
> Do you usually go though out your day being wrong so much?
>
> 1) High band width is not the ONLY reason but it is a major benefit.
> 2) Just because something was improved for reason "A" does not mean
> effects can not be seen elsewhere.
>
> Next!!!
Since you haven't pro
bernt writes:
> One player is on WiFi. Do I need a High End Air cleaner, which one?
The first sensible post in this thread!
Thanks for bringing sense into this.
>
> http://www.plentyair.com/
>
>
>
> SB Touch to Yamaha A-S501, Boston Acoustics A26.
> SB 3 to Audio Pro T3.
> SB BOOM
> SB Rad
arnyk wrote:
> You're making the logical mistake that just because a change was made,
> your hobby horse unfounded assertions are validated.
>
> The actual reasons for the upgrade are widely publicized and well-known
> and not what you say, Edward.
>
> http://www.cablinginstall.com/articles/201
edwardthern wrote:
> If you "Know This" then why can't you connect the dots?
>
> Cable lengths did not increase, companies etc. still use the same cable
> lengths they used before. However the standard changed to support
> "Current" cable lengths with better performance. The "Goalposts" did not
drmatt wrote:
> You know very well that the standard was improved in order to support
> longer cable lengths at gigabit speed and to accommodate incoming
> standards such as 10 gigabit. The goalposts moved, in other words. You
> know this, you are choosing to bait now.
If you "Know This" then wh
edwardthern wrote:
> But, but, but.lol
>
> No buts, loose free or not the cable and standard was IMPROVED.
> IMPROVED. therefore loose free or not, packet delivery is IMPROVED.
>
> by you thinking there is no need to improve the standard when either way
> no changes in packets can be ve
One player is on WiFi. Do I need a High End Air cleaner, which one?
http://www.plentyair.com/
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SB 3 to Audio Pro T3.
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edwardthern wrote:
> No buts, loose free or not the cable and standard was IMPROVED.
> IMPROVED. therefore loose free or not, packet delivery is IMPROVED.
>
> by you thinking there is no need to improve the standard when either way
> no changes in packets can be verified. Well obviously the
drmatt wrote:
> Can't say I've noticed this .. ;)
That does not surprise me...LOL
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drmatt wrote:
> But CAT5 provides lossfree packet delivery when used within
> specification (i.e. short enough lengths). Lossless, without requiring
> retransmit.
But, but, but.lol
No buts, loose free or not the cable and standard was IMPROVED.
IMPROVED. therefore loose free or not, pac
edwardthern wrote:
> Because spdif cables DO sound differentLOL
Can't say I've noticed this .. ;)
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drmatt wrote:
> Correct, good point. This is therefore similar to saying that SPDIF
> cables sound different. More open to debate than Ethernet, but still, a
> push.
Because spdif cables DO sound differentLOL
You people are so funny
edwardthern wrote:
> For example cat5 vs cat6 there were improvement in bandwidth, overall
> loss, and better signal to noise ratio per the STANDARD. so clearly they
> measure different
But CAT5 provides lossfree packet delivery when used within
specification (i.e. short enough lengths). Lossles
Mnyb wrote:
> Note I2S he said .
>
> Has nothing to do with the topic of ethernet comunication.
>
Correct, good point. This is therefore similar to saying that SPDIF
cables sound different. More open to debate than Ethernet, but still, a
push.
edwardthern wrote:
> I use a audioquest Ethernet cable for i2s makes all the difference in
> the world over standard cable. Reaches much deeper into the music, more
> of everything. Of course you need quality gear and the ability to hear
> well to appreciate these things.
Hmm, I've used powerlin
I see a pattern.
A bunch of angry people with avg gear and poor hearing hating on people
with better gear and good hearing. You can't hear it so you want to see
it via measurements. Fact is, you can't even hear it when measurements
are different.
For example cat5 vs cat6 there were improvement i
edwardthern wrote:
> I use a audioquest Ethernet cable for i2s makes all the difference in
> the world over standard cable. Reaches much deeper into the music, more
> of everything. Of course you need quality gear and the ability to hear
> well to appreciate these things.
Note I2S he said .
Has
edwardthern wrote:
> I don't care what you think, myself and lots of other people love good
> gear and can appreciate differences in sound of quality cables.
>
> If it pisses you off that you can't hear don't blame us...
Not pissed off, just wondering, as you seem to tick a lot of boxes:
"In I
Julf wrote:
> This is a perfect example of the kind of posting that makes me wonder
> about your motives for posting. They are so calculatingly stereotypical
> that it almost seems like their only reason is to try to provoke a
> reaction.
I don't care what you think, myself and lots of other peo
edwardthern wrote:
> I use a audioquest Ethernet cable for i2s makes all the difference in
> the world over standard cable. Reaches much deeper into the music, more
> of everything. Of course you need quality gear and the ability to hear
> well to appreciate these things.
This is a perfect examp
Archimago wrote:
> Oh my. Wireworld Cat8 ethernet cables for sound quality now!?
> http://www.audiostream.com/content/wireworld-starlight-cat8-ethernet-cable
>
> Interesting comment/question by "Solarophile" about TCP error
> correction. He should have a look at this:
> http://archimago.blogspot
drmatt wrote:
> Always worth having gigabit.. not least for auto-uplink sensing and the
> end of crossover cables!
Not a unique feature of gigabit, 100BT switches with that feature have
been common for decades.
However the speed is a unique feature, and it is nice when you are
moving large coll
Always worth having gigabit.. not least for auto-uplink sensing and the
end of crossover cables!
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Tonight I'm going to replace the switch my Touch is connected to. I'm
confident that the SQ will improve big time. Maybe a better power supply
will improve SQ even more.
This is the one I have now.
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New one.:p
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Apesbrain wrote:
> Wow, $70 a foot! I recently paid $150 for 1000 feet of quality CAT6.
I'll bet that CAT6 will make a lot of noise! ;-)
2 Duets - 1 for upstairs and 1 for downstairs
Rock Solid with LMS 7.9 on WHS 2011
^ Digital audio has been a windfall for fringe vendors. Data goes in and
music comes out. It's magic, right? All that esoteric stuff like chips,
filters, power supplies, oh my! Best to trust the designer with the
highest pedigree and the most overpriced gear.
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The description of the audiostream test setup components reads like the
setup of a particle accelerator in Cern but more complex. It never was
so obvious how the business works as lately.
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sfraser wrote:
> As A Nokia Network Engineer (formerly
> Alcatel-Lucent/Alcatel/Newbridge/Bell Advanced Communications) currently
> in the IP/Optical Networks Division, This guy's document on switches is
> an embarrassment.
I have to agree. BTW, I still can't believe it is "Nokia Bell Labs"
now.
Julf wrote:
> Well, they are at least brave enough to attempt an explanation (albeit
> presenting it as a fact rather than a theory) - noise from cheap SMPS's
> (that good old scapegoat) powering the switches (and affecting the
> receiving streamers).
As A Nokia Network Engineer (formerly
Alcate
arnyk wrote:
> All that is needed is a detailed examination of the audio output of the
> DAC to see if there is noise that is above the threshold of hearing and
> traceable to the power supply. Been there, done that and come up dry.
>
> I have a goodly number of SMPS and analog wall warts with
Julf wrote:
> Well, they are at least brave enough to attempt an explanation (albeit
> presenting it as a fact rather than a theory) - noise from cheap SMPS's
> (that good old scapegoat) powering the switches (and affecting the
> receiving streamers).
All that is needed is a detailed examination
arnyk wrote:
> Key quote:
>
> "...even though there are audible differences between LAN cables, all
> LAN cables are already bitperfect."
>
> IOW, even though the data is perfect, I can still hear differences.
>
> Two words: Sighted Evaluation.
Well, they are at least brave enough to attempt
bernt wrote:
> Don't forget the switch.
>
> http://www.klinktbeter.be/index.php/specials/highend-switch
Key quote:
"...even though there are audible differences between LAN cables, all
LAN cables are already bitperfect."
IOW, even though the data is perfect, I can still hear differences.
T
Don't forget the switch.
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