Re: [Aus-soaring] World Class Glider

2005-04-06 Thread Mike Borgelt
At 02:14 PM 6/04/05 +0930, you wrote: >Thank you for the information Mike Sir. >"But what do the little people do" says me pulling my forelock if I had one. > >Chris mc Donnell As I said, the "club" class is a suitable world class. These LS1/Cirrus/Libelle/LS3/Mosquito/Mini Nimbus/PIk20 etc glider

Re: [Aus-soaring] world class glider

2005-04-06 Thread Mike Borgelt
At 03:54 PM 6/04/05 +0930, you wrote: > Ron said:"GOOD gliding with your own aeroplane is EASILY >affordable." And I and others do Ron! I said: "to >participate in the sport at a meaningful level." A world class or >classes has to be better than the dogs dinner we hav

Re: [Aus-soaring] World Class Glider

2005-04-06 Thread Emilis Prelgauskas
On Wed, 06 Apr 2005 12:14:50 +1000, Robert Hart wrote: >I think the concept of a world class glider was probably good, the >execution, as is visible in the form of the PW 5, was terrible. And a sequence of externalities got in the way of the planned rollout - glasnost Swidnik production issues S

Re: [Aus-soaring] World Class Glider

2005-04-06 Thread Christopher Mc Donnell
I did say: "a well chosen World Class Glider". Thanks for your thoughts Mike. It further confirms my views as to the movement of the sport across the economic spectrum. I'm lucky though as I am able to participate in it's last affordable days. The kids on low incomes and at todays rates???

RE: [Aus-soaring] Kooka Trim

2005-04-06 Thread Roger Druce
Of course he flies compentently. He was trained by George Lee in a decent two-seater, Nimbus 4DM. Fancy regressing to a Kookaburra. Oh, the shame of it! Roger Druce -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Patching Sent: Wednesday, 6 April 2005 4

RE: [Aus-soaring] World Class Glider

2005-04-06 Thread Anthony Smith
>From Rob Hart -Original Message- If a reasonable performance single seat glider, backed by a worldwide comp system, was available at a good price, then I think the idea would work. The design should also include a one man rig trailer and (if possible) provision for self launching (as I to

Re: [Aus-soaring] World Class Glider

2005-04-06 Thread Mike Borgelt
At 05:00 PM 6/04/05 +0930, you wrote: >On Wed, 06 Apr 2005 12:14:50 +1000, Robert Hart wrote: >>I think the concept of a world class glider was probably good, the >>execution, as is visible in the form of the PW 5, was terrible. > >And a sequence of externalities got in the way of the planned roll

Re: [Aus-soaring] World Class Glider

2005-04-06 Thread Mike Borgelt
At 05:25 PM 6/04/05 +0930, you wrote: >I did say: "a well chosen World Class Glider". >Thanks for your thoughts Mike. >It further confirms my views as to the movement of the sport across the >economic spectrum. >I'm lucky though as I am able to participate in it's last affordable days. >The kids o

Re: [Aus-soaring] Kooka Trim

2005-04-06 Thread Rob & Colleen Moore
For those of us who were young many years ago the story of a young female glider pilot flying in a Kookaburra (Short) wing for the first time and the instructor moved the trim lever only to receive a slap in the face from the maiden who thought he was getting fresh. No names no pack drill. At 0

Re: [Aus-soaring] Kooka Trim

2005-04-06 Thread John O'Neill
Ian,    Is that EP2 the Higgins one or the Ed Pascoe one. John    ---Original Message---   From: Patching Date: 04/06/05 16:27:26 To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Kooka Trim   Your right Chris. (of course) Caleb belongs to that yo

[Aus-soaring] Kooka Trim

2005-04-06 Thread Christopher Mc Donnell
Good to see there is some sense of humour out there.   Chris mc Donnell ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring

[Aus-soaring] World Class Glider

2005-04-06 Thread Christopher Mc Donnell
Oh well ! Back to the pigs.   Chris Mc Donnell ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring

Re: [Aus-soaring] Kooka Trim

2005-04-06 Thread Patching
Careful Roger, Last time you bought into a discussion with him he stitched you right up, or should I say added fuel to the fire. The only advantage of flying in a Nimbus 4 (if we follow Rob's line) is that the movements aren't quite so jerky! One could go longer but with most males, time isn't t

Re: [Aus-soaring] Kooka Trim

2005-04-06 Thread John O'Neill
Ian,  Or the reflex rope.   John    ---Original Message---   From: Patching Date: 04/06/05 21:39:32 To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Kooka Trim   I will. Forgot about that.   - Original Message - From: John O'Neill To:

Re: [Aus-soaring] Kooka Trim

2005-04-06 Thread John O'Neill
Ian,   Should ask AH if he still has the Wankle for it.  John    ---Original Message---   From: Patching Date: 04/06/05 21:21:55 To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Kooka Trim   John, The Higgins one. VH-IZZ. A little rocket. Cheers

Re: [Aus-soaring] Kooka Trim

2005-04-06 Thread Patching
I will. Forgot about that.   - Original Message - From: John O'Neill To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 9:34 PM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Kooka Trim Ian,   Should ask A

Re: [Aus-soaring] Kooka Trim

2005-04-06 Thread Patching
John, The Higgins one. VH-IZZ. A little rocket. Cheers Ian P. - Original Message - From: John O'Neill To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 7:55 PM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Kooka Trim

Ozzie Libelles Re: [Aus-soaring] World Class Glider

2005-04-06 Thread Peter Stephenson
What has happened Cath Conway and her Libelle-philia? Have not seen an email from her for some time. PeterS The solution to this is to take an existing design (proven and popular) eg H201 Std Libelle and make that the aircraft for a single design comp across the world. With the original design ef

RE: [Aus-soaring] World Class Glider

2005-04-06 Thread Mike Borgelt
At 06:52 PM 6/04/05 +0930, you wrote: > >There are a number of problems with Rob's suggestion: Any _new_ std class >glider design costs about the same amount to produce from scratch regardless >of performance. Manufacturers try to get the most bang for buck by really >working the last few percent

RE: Ozzie Libelles Re: [Aus-soaring] World Class Glider

2005-04-06 Thread Kittel, Stephen W \(ETSA\)
Title: RE: Ozzie Libelles Re: [Aus-soaring] World Class Glider Think she was/is actually a Boomerang-o-phile. SWK > -Original Message- > From: Peter Stephenson > > > What has happened Cath Conway and her Libelle-philia? Have > not seen an email from her for some time. >

Re: RE: [Aus-soaring] Kooka Trim

2005-04-06 Thread Caleb White
Now Roger, Don't be like that, the Kooka still has better performance than say a Janus CT in two respects: 1. The glide performance is still better than a CT with the motor out, locked and not turning. 2. The climb performance is still better than a CT WITH the motor out, locked and turning a

[Aus-soaring] Inattentional Blindness

2005-04-06 Thread Mark Newton
The Visual Cognition Lab at the Beckman Institute at University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign (UIUC) studies human response to visible stimuli. In my opinion, some of their work has direct applicability to gliding look-out skills. Here's an example: Visit http://viscog.beckman.uiuc.edu/grafs/demos/

RE: [Aus-soaring] Inattentional Blindness

2005-04-06 Thread Brett Kettle
Beautiful, Mark! & scary. I'd love to see the training package that you develop out of this. Hopefully you will figure a way to get it out to interested clubs. Cheers Brett Kettle -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Newton Sent: Thurs