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From: Mark Newton
Wear under Europen conditions is OK but the concern is wear rates
under Australian conditions with little grass on the runway.
As well as allowing very high launch rates, a retrieve winch would
probably overcome this.
Hi Harry.
In addition to what Anthony and Mike have said, differences of a few
glidepoints (significant) can result from very tiny height differences
(hard to measure accurately). Do some sums beforehand to get a feel for
what you will be looking for.
I have found that measuring absolute glide angles
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From: Mike Borgelt
At 09:33 AM 7/05/2007, you wrote:
In addition to what Anthony and Mike have said, differences of a few
glidepoints (significant) can result from very tiny height
differences
(hard to measure accurately). Do some sums beforehand to
Well, earlier on Mark N mentioned it and spelt out what it meant and
David L anguished over why it wasn't more commonly used at Joey Glide.
But yes, it is a local thing.
Regards
SWK
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75:1!!
I want one.
Cathy, have you still got that room for one more horse?
Regards
SWK
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From: JR
SAGA is buying a horse-drawn Zepplin, 75:1 LD, but dont tell
anyone, or they will all want one.
regards JR
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From: Mark Newton
Who's joking.
Adelaide Soaring Club have a voice undercarriage warning in at least
some of their single seaters.
(Maggie the ex office lady it is)
Regards
SWK
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From: JR
RIGHT,
There was a hundred and fifty of us living in a Grunau, in
the middle of the airfield, we had to get up in the morning,
half an hour before we went to bed, clean the Grunau , and
then go and work on the winch,unpaid, and when we got home
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From: Ben Jones
What Redmond said is true,
Well, no. But what Ben goes on to say is mostly right. Both motors and
normal fluoros are inductive (due to the current limiting choke in
fluoros). IE fluoros cant be used to correct motor power factor (they
only
http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel/Duxford/Aviat4.htm
There's one at the military museum in Koblenz if anyone is interested.
:-)
Regards
SWK
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Sent:
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From: Mark Newton
Having just spent several tens of thousands of dollars at
work on power factor correction and harmonic filtering in a
large UPS system, I reckon the recent announcements about
phasing out incandescent bulbs are hilarious.
The
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From:Christopher Mc Donnell
Mark said:
The price of electricity must necessarily go up as CFLs
become commonplace.
Same with the price of beer in a pub since RBT, and watch it
skyrocket after smoking is banned in pubs.
Yours in decadence (oops-
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From: Anthony Smith
Having worked through our power bill with Justine recently,
approx two thirds of our power bill over last summer was
simply for the fridge running 24/7.
And the next biggest chunk would be the airconditioner (or maybe hot
water
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From: Derek Ruddock
What club can afford to scrap its existng gliders and replace
them with twin jet self launchers?
Seriously...
What clubs can afford to keep 30-40 year old Pawnees serviceable and
fuelled?
At least for a medium to long term future.
(and
And I should have added...
/high pitched voice/
Oh look.
He's fallen in da wter
/end high pitched voice/
SWK
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From: Texler, Michael
Sent: Friday, 2 March 2007 5:30 PM
There was a special about lightning on the ABC last night,
did anyone watch it?
Yes, I did, it was most interesting (I had seen the airliner hit by
lightning footage on the internet before). Moreso as
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From:Graeme Cant
You might like to read the article by Bob Grimstead (a power
pilot, I know, but smarter on spins than most glider pilots
in Australia, I suspect) in Australian Aviation of April 2006
called In a Spin. It relates his experiences spinning
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From:Graeme Cant
The US Air Force explored the 'unspinnable' K21's spinning
behaviour extensively (at their Test Pilots' School IIRC) and
this ended with two experienced test pilot's deaths.
Graham,
can you give a reference to this statement.
Jonoh, Jarek (and others).
I never meant that it wouldn't spin, just that the German club who owned the
speciment that I flew preferred that us aussies didn't spin their aircraft
(which I subsequently found out was due to a fatal accident the week before we
arrived). Cathy and I spun their
Very common from what I can gather. Over the years both Cathy Conway and
myself have posted similar stories on this discussion group. GA is still
trying to teach high key/low key, which is a less practical way than a
GFA normal circuit (I think anyway).
Regards
SWK
Yes, Polish.
The previously communist government of East Germany ran gliding (and
other) clubs in a different way to how we westerners expect them to be
run. Their gliders were mostly from other eastern bloc countries (ie
usually from the SZD stable).
At reunification all the gliders (and Wilga
http://toohardtodo.blogspot.com/2004/07/257-klix-official-practice-day_2
5.html
A very upright seating position from memory, but was pretty comfortable.
The Germans were a bit worried about spinning (for other reasons). I
didn't spin it but did some mushy stall things. Not much different to
any
In my younger days, one of the ex Port Augusta pilots thought of writing
a book like this.
He was going to call it ...
Whinging on the Wind
probably dates the joke too...
:-(
SWK
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From: Reg Moore
Forwarded a CASA proposal of rule making that some of you may
not be aware of. How will gliders over 600kg AUW be treated?
Probably like gliders below 600kg.
Note a quick read only.
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From: Christopher Mc Donnell
Gee! I hate it when these sort of links are given.
Here at home I can only get 28.8 kbps dial up.
Not the senders fault, the fault is Ziggy's or Sol's.
Hope Simon Hackett Cathy Conway of Agile Communications
hurry up with the
] with the 16m tips is probably only shown without the
tips installed.
Regards
SWK
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From: ANDREW WRIGHT
Sent: Monday, 22 January 2007 1:58 PM
To: Kittel, Stephen W (ETSA)
Subject: Polar
Hello Stephen
Could you help me please. Could you please post
Well, they probably both did have indication of a threat ahead (though
at 200kts only for about 10 seconds).
BUT as Luke indicated, he was thinking about the other two (known)
aircraft he was with (and I probably would have been too).
The oncoming pilot, we won't know what they were
From: Stuart FERGUSON
Robert Hart wrote
Now - there is a separate issue involving independent operators
and the requirement for a second signature which makes it technically
impossible for such a person
From: Stuart FERGUSON
Stephen,
No - I did not miss the point,
Independant operator can only exercise their rating (by definition) if
there is no club operation, hence there most likely won't be
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From: Mike Cleaver
The aviation industry standard, worldwide, is that any
control circuit that is broken must be independently checked
by someone who did not re-connect it before the aircraft is
returned to service.
Ta for responding Mike.
While we all
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From:John Giddy
Simon Hackett wrote:
I imagine that may, in effect, be an interesting list of
old, perhaps
damaged or disused, gliders to be considered if anyone was
trying to
find an old example of one to put back into the air.
Simon
One
A content free answer received tonight from a nameless individual at
DTEI
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Sent: Tuesday, 28 November 2006 6:20 PM
To: Kittel, Stephen W (ETSA)
Subject: RE: Private hangars
ENVIROMISSION PUT OUT
MELBOURNE, Oct 27 - Solar tower proponent
EnviroMission Limited
sought a trading halt on its shares on
Wednesday to address any
confusion between its project and the Solar
Systems announcement. It
said a marked change in the daily price and
volume of EnviroMission's
Forwarded for interest.
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From: Robert Moore
Two South Australian Glider Pilots are assisting a German
team to try and break a German Altitude record in the Andes
Prof Jorg Hacker and Rudie Gasseimier from ARA Parafield and
former ASC members are in the Andes
Todd,
there are a number of techniques which work, so
do whatever is best for you. In fact as people gain more experience they tend to
"do stuff" without thinking about it too much and probably amalgamate different
internal rules for different weather conditions.
There was a technique
Wasn't GXA Riley's prototype motor Blanik Conversion?
SWK
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From:Adam Woolley
G'day All,
No doubt you've come across this link already, but here it is
if you havn't viewed it already..
http://www.lexsimshauser.com.au/Sportavia/Sportavia.htm
Sure wouldn't
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From: Christopher Mc Donnell
Lego ! Just shows what babies you all are.
I had a Meccano set with real nuts and bolts, levers axles
etc. and a metho powered little steam engine to drive the
things I built.
Imagine the fun lawyers would have with a little
Yes. K=Kunstflug=Aerobatic
Also you will find Grob Twin II Acros have a K in their serial number of
the form 3nnn-Knnn. EG, the first sequence of Twin IIs are consecutively
numbered 3501 to 3876 and Acros have the K001 etc added as a subset of
this bunch. (whew)
SWK
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Better than the rubber ducky (and more expensive). Microair
make a ground plane free antenna for their radios. If you could get it into the
rudder this would be best.
If you want quick though, you can lay it along the fuselage
(by the wheel box or behind in the tail boom, clear of controls
As per Mark N's email. Probably Steve Were is the owner.
Could still be worth chasing up though. More than once I (and others)
have offered to buy and been told, no, we will never sell only to hear
of the sale to someone else not so long after. I think it can often
happen that the first offer
them. Those that
haven't been transferred yet, (if they still exist) are maybe not so
valued by their owner. I would start a search with them first, then go
onto the known transferred ones. A quick check on GOK shows that it
hasn't been transferred yet.
Regards
SWK
Kittel, Stephen W (ETSA) wrote
Have heard of peopleleaving Port Augusta GC bound
forPort Pirie with a tow rope, used earlier in the day, still attached.
Don't know if the tow rope actually madethe
distancethough.
SWK
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Christopher Mc
to ring around.
Looking for a new tyre for a Jantar. It's 350x135, same
size as Blaniks etc.
Who sells 'em?
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10$ a launch for winch?
That's a bit expensive isn't it?
Regards
SWK
:-)
In the interests of promoting a reduction in the cost of
Juniors participating in competition flying, I am sure I could convince a
local club to host an event for Juniors using winch launching at $10 per
And the first two items foundare Darling Downs
Tug Manual and Borders GC (UK) which appear nearly word for word! Who knicked
whose? :-)
But seriously, when looking for this info, the only
real place to go is the Flight Manual/POH. However, as Michael has found out,
the info in the
Except for the Pawnee...
Regards
SWK
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of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.Subject: RE:
[Aus-soaring] Pawnee Speeds
Michael,
Opened and printed out quite OK here.
Thanks for the copies Ken.
Interesting representation from PAGC. Names of old members, some no
longer with us.
I note that the PAGC arrow was scratched from the 7th nats programme.
This could have been due to it being damaged in an outlanding accident.
If
Rotter!
And say hello to Hartmut for me!
Regards
SWK
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Sent: Tuesday, 11 April 2006 5:25 AM
To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.
Subject: [Aus-soaring] Winter
I don't know, but the photo _could_ be QZ. When it left PAGC it had a
red stripe and boomerang motif on the fuse (as well as comp number =
49).
It is now in the nice blue/yellow/red scheme that Cathy Co chose. I
remember seeing it at Waikerie in 1985(?, 20 yearly?) where the fuselage
was being
I think there were 2 Kingfishers at Port Augusta Gliding Club in about
the early 60's.
One club aircraft and one private owned. The club one also went into
private hands when PAGC bought an Arrow. One of them was badly damaged
(and rebuilt) by a blow over (thermal). GLB was one of these two.
I
John beat me to it.
It is conceivable that it could be both a factory serial number _and_
kit. Schneiders did sell gliders in various stages of completion. I
believe the PAGC Arrow (or Boomerang?) was received in red dope with no
instruments (and flown in same condition for a while!)
Also the
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From: Texler, Michael
What surprises most people is that the
stronger drive to make us breathe is the accumulation of
carbon dioxide in our blood (as a by product of metabolism,
the combustion of foodstuffs in our cells). Just think of
that feeling you get
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From: Texler, Michael
As Michael notes, lack of oxygen, in itself is not detectable by our
bodies.
Not quite. Our body does have low oxygen level sensors, but
these are a second line defence.
OK. As I was writing it, I new it was a generalisation and you
Michael,
Is it the cables inside the fuselage or the bowden cables at the rear?
I have used compression/crimp fittings on the single strand steel wire
in the fuselage in the past.
Regards
SWK
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Whoa, steady down Chris.
I don't have a TTH. I'm a cusp boomer/gen Xer and
usually wear an Arafat
(Although I saw some TTHs at Aussie Disposals not 5
days agoand was sorely tempted!)
Other stuff is true, but.
SWK
From: Christopher Mc
Donnell
Me too.
We wear beards.
Thanks for that Mike.
There seem to be some who really have difficulty letting go of the idea
of mandatory calls.
SWK
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From: Mike Cleaver
In order of both priority and sequencing of workload:
1. AVIATE
2. NAVIGATE
3. COMMUNICATE
...
Without laying my hands on the manual it's a bit difficult
to say if up on both ailerons is correct, it could be to reduce tip stalling.
However, I suspect this is not the case, BUT some (especially older) gliders do
mix the aileron and elevator.
Is the "up" on the ailerons constant
Geoffs description is very similar to the SA situation.
With the exception you don't get the choice to keep it!
As for the maintenance/fire issues, it is true that the
utility in SA has a sufficiently good idea where it's assets are to deal with
these issues, but for SWERs (Which was the
Guys, the SWER lines which we are talking about are not consumers mains.
They are high voltage distribution lines. 13kv in most states and 19kV
in SA. They are generally not owned by the land owner.
http://www.ruralpower.org/swer_003_what_is.htm
They were a technically limited but cheap way of
Some years ago (before my time) had a Macchi steal some of
our wire. Took it back to base in the instant slot in its wing which almost
reached the spar.
Don't know if he bragged about snagging the wire, but it'd
be a good bar story (after calming down)
Regards
SWK
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[EMAIL
And Also
Don't forget all of these power lines were built in the pre computer
days (let alone pre GPS) so location data may exist only on paper. Or
(since the general downsizing of the industry over the last 15 years)
it may have been lost and no meaningful location data of any kind may
exist in
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Wayne, Good Idea! Each
jurisdiction would (ahem - should)
80/20 rule. While it's nice to have a
complete record of what's out there, capturing the data for the capital city
usually covers 95%+ of all needs. Large country towns are a bonus. Remote
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PenroseSent: Wednesday, 22 March 2006 3:25 PMTo:
Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.Subject: Re:
[Aus-soaring] SWER
...Just got the replies
by Scott and Derek, sorry,
Yes, Genesis is a flying wing, but I had a vague idea they might have
been available as kits (as well as factory produced). But I didn't think
any came into Australia.
At least a couple of the American Spirit/Falcons (not sure which) were
impported into Australia. None of them finished as far as
If you don't want to make a number of them (fibre glass) go with
aluminium. Far easier than one off moulding.
Unless you were thinking about cutting a panel from a preformed sheet of
fibreglass (haven't seen such a thing, but doubtless out there
somewhere).
The existing aluminium panel may not
a Borgelt
B8000 or something.
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Stephen W (ETSA)
Sent: Wednesday, 1 March 2006 10:42 PM
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Australia.
Subject: RE: [Aus-soaring] Aluminium
From Anthony...
I did consider making a ply panel and finishing it in clear to show the
grain. May of looked nice for a wooden aircraft.
Certainly does, when done well. I have seen a number of vintage gliders
done with this and will one day do the Hutter.
I have also seen vintage powered
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Sent: Friday, 24 February 2006 10:44 AM
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Subject: RE: Airspace WAS: [Aus-soaring] RE: Near misses
From: Kittel, Stephen W (ETSA) [EMAIL PROTECTED
While I have no real arguments against the rest of Graham's post, this
is a statement that I have seen before on other mailing lists and it
simply aint so.
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From: Graeme Cant
Snip...
The East European system - in fact much of Western Europe too - is
that all
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From: Graeme Cant
But recently in SA, I came across a large, circular (about 40mm)
diameter metal shell plug with large pins on a glider trailer. It was
the same as the one that was fitted in Germany to the Club's new trailer
when it arrived in December. They
orm? ie number of
hours flownv number of accident/incidentss.
Anyone know this info?
David Lawley
Computer Manager
ElizabethPrimary
School
Elizabeth East Prinary
School
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K
1st guess:
Gearbox?
Maybe speedo cable connection.
2nd guess (actually a better one now I think of it)
The screws in the radio/cassette/cd player. They'll be american
gauge/thread ones (eg 8-24).
3rd guess
Your camera mount :-) that'll be 1/4 WW
Regards
SWK
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From: Christopher Mc Donnell
I did not find the process re Part 47 difficult at all.
I had to make some enquiries re some wobblies for people I was JP'ing
for and re some problems with one of my own gliders and I found the CASA
people very helpful.
From Rob Moore:
Possibly but you must realise that most pupils only have the goal of
solo and only a few if shown the delights you mention will decide to
stay.
From: Allan Armistead
I find the above quite an amazing statement. While I can understand that
someone in an air cadet or scouting type
Yes, it is possible to do it differently.
When I visited the Akafleig Braunschweig I found that their workshop and hangar
are in one corner (albeit out of the way) of the Braunschweig airport. The
Akafleig aerotow, and I think, winch off the aerodrome, but not off the
runways. The stuff that
Minimum syllabus from AUF Ops
Manual:
http://www.auf.asn.au/opsmanual/new3-04.html
Note this is a minimum.
AUF (and GA) schools vary a fair bit in consistency. If you are only exposed to
the GFA way of standardised training in Australia, seeing how the powered boys
do it can be a bit of
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From: Mike Borgelt
Just checked my father's logbook and in late 1957 the gliders
had VH registrations.
I think it did involve a transfer of control because until
1981 or so DCA and its sucessors handled type approvals,
I think I may not have been clear enough.
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From: Mike Borgelt
Do you have any material on the period when the then DCA took
control of glider airworthiness requirements from the GFA and
made gliders conform to a standard? 1956 or so I've heard.
Mike
From my reading of AG's from around that time and
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From:Mark Newton
Absolutely yes, it is.
Tug pilots need Commercial Pilots Licenses, and are hired on a
charter basis.
A slight correction to Marks post.
Tug pilots don't _need_ to be CPL in the US. However, unless they are
CPL they can't fly for hire and
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From:Coleman, Ben (RTCA)
At my club I believe a culture of private ownership impacts
the operation. We have two single seaters, a Junior and a
Jantar, both purchased new some 20 years ago. When a member
progresses to XC, the message is time to buy your own
The first manned glider flight that there is reasonable evidence for was
in 1853.
We don't actually know who the pilot was!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sir_George_Cayley
http://www.flyingmachines.org/cayl.html
I tender my resignation Sir George, I was hired to drive, not to fly!
Also, in his
Ha.
You're both optimistic. I think most of the bureaucrats probably haven't
flown at all!
:-)
SWK
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From: Allan Armistead
And most of THEM probably only know it's black stuff because
they saw it while looking out the window - that is if they
managed to snag a
Without wishing to put more fuel on the fire (I don't
know what basis Mark based his comments on) BUT SSA is not like GFA, US glider
pilots don't have to be members of SSA.
John
Roakes analysis (which I linked to in an earlier email) shows a decline of 31424
to 29390 from 1992 to 2003
recent
report (to 2004) with revised US numbers see http://www.fai.org/gliding/membership
Cheers,
Patrick
Barfield
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From: Peter CreswickSent:
Wednesday, 14 December 2005 12:45 PMTo: Discussion of issues
relating to Soaring in Australia.Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] World
gliding numbers
Juggled those numbers a bit in Excel, and
resorted into order of number of people in population per
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From: Leigh Bunting
?
Kittel, Stephen W (ETSA) wrote:
I think for the purposes of the radio procedures your
paddock becomes
an aerodrome when you begin to take off from (or land in) it!
So every ag-pilot in Australia will now be flying the
prescribed circuit
would
be defined as aerodromes
Yes. I think that if a paddock is _used as one_ it becomes one (issues
like ownership and trespass aside).
Regards
SWK
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From: Mark Newton
Geoff Kidd wrote:
3G had better be good or there will be some squealing from
Country folks.
The amusing thing about this take is that country folks think
Telstra actually cares about whether or not they're squealing.
Remember the banks?
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Snipped a lot of other stuff...
The 1974 World Comps at Waikerie created huge interest in
gliding in Australia at the time, the peak of the GFA
membership and clubs, large numbers of
Of all the comments made today (and I have heard
similar for the past few months now) John H's is closest to the
reality.
They are recommendations, it is up to pilot discretion
how far they go with them.
The
actual rules can be found here:
While we are in a legal mood tonight...
Gliders ridge soaring have an exemption (to fly low) from the CARs
through CAO 95.4:
http://casa.gov.au/download/orders/cao95/9504.pdf
4.4 Gliders, powered sailplanes and power-assisted sailplanes engaged in
ridge or hill soaring may fly at a height below
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From: mark king
(I started writing this last night but then Saw Mark Ns reply this
morning, so it is a bit of a hodge podge, sorry)
Mark (King) has made some interesting and far ranging points on gliding
and its future. I am only going to dip into a few of them (cos
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From: Wayne Carter
Snip of Waynes story...
I should probably not pursue a career in
electronics, as colored wires are common and might prove
expensive to get wrong. ...
Strangely enough, coming from an electrical background, I have met at
least two electricians
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From: Robert Hart
Has everyone here realised that the GFA decentralised comp is
now running online?
http://www2.onlinecontest.org/olcphp/olc-i.php?olc=olc-i
This is a tremendous improvement as it is now very easy to
upload flights, quickly see how you have
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From: Texler, Michael
Does anyone know if compact personal altimeters (barometers) exist.
I recall (possibly incorrectly) that you could buy a
wristwatch with one. Do they come with an altitude alarm?
There are a number of watches on the market with
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From: John Giddy
On Fri, 19 Aug 2005 10:40:33 +0800, Michael Texler wrote:
Does anyone know if compact personal altimeters (barometers) exist.
I recall (possibly incorrectly) that you could buy a wristwatch with
one. Do they come with an altitude alarm?
Given
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From: Texler, Michael
Does anyone know if compact personal altimeters (barometers) exist.
I recall (possibly incorrectly) that you could buy a
wristwatch with one. Do they come with an altitude alarm?
Given the recent airline crash in Greece, Payne Stewart's last
Previous Reply to Ian P.
It is sitting on trestles in
the AUGC workshop at Westbeach with most of its fabric off. There is a desire in
the club to repair it, and I will help if that happens, but I think there is a
bit of procrastination to do with an insurance claim. Anyway, I propose to
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From: Mike Cleaver
At 07:22 17/08/2005, Derek R wrote about telecommunications:
Bigger fleas have smaller fleas upon their backs to bite 'em
Not quite sure of the relevance...
Surely, that (in the cities) there are many smaller ISPs ready to put
the bite
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From: Mark Newton
Terry Neumann wrote:
Has something changed here, or is my memory all _that_ bad .?
I suspect you're just witnessing a manifestation of the fact
that no two of Harry's aircraft were alike.
Nah, Terry's memory is _that_ bad. :-)
While
Title: RE: [Aus-soaring] Safety and GFA
http://www.atsb.gov.au/aviation/occurs/
199700049
199805348
199900844
200400924
Use the search button (top right hand).
These are only fatals, there may be other glider non fatals.
There is a delay between accident occurrence and report
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