[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Baptism Record Translation Help-Francisco

2014-04-22 Thread Aaron Pereira
Hello, I do not speak portuguese, but have been trying to learn...my only experience is reading the parish and other historical documents, and using a portuguese language program. For Rita Inacia, I think the recorder is correcting himself and stating she is from Divino Espirito Santo.

[AZORES-Genealogy] GRACIOSA Researchers update

2014-04-22 Thread Eliseu Pacheco da Silva
Hi, Here is an updated list of the Graciosa researchers. This is NOT a new group. The advantage of this kind of lists is that you only write one email and you get sure that everybody researching GRACIOSA will get it in his/hers mail box! I have included Cheri's personal email and the azores

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Baptism Record Translation Help-Francisco

2014-04-22 Thread mnk
Godparents were Manoel Jose Correa and his sister Anna Felicia children of Manoel Jose Correa and Maria Felicia. Then it mentions the witnesses. MNK -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Baptism Record Translation Help-Francisco

2014-04-22 Thread Cheri Mello
Diane G, That record is hard. The priest keeps naming so many churches. I don't see a Divino Espirito Santo on Pico. And Sao Mateus on Pico is in Madalena, but I can't make out Madalena in his writing. I think the maternal grandparents are Antonio Carreiro. He's born in October (8bro). More

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with Baptism Translation

2014-04-22 Thread Syndi T
Thank you Hermano! That helps tremendously. I appreciate your help. Syndi -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: GRACIOSA Researchers update

2014-04-22 Thread BOBCAMSCPW
Thank you Eliseu for all your hard work on this matter. I do not know where abouts everyone else is researching, but I am looking for Grandmother Family with the last name of Reis, or dos Reis which is her father side and her mother's last name was Espinola da Veiga. My Grandmother Rosa

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Baptism Record Translation Help-Francisco

2014-04-22 Thread luiznoia .
The words after Apostolo Sao Matheus are- digo dal do Espiritu Santo Santo, The writer seems to be correcting himself, digo ( I mean the of Divino Espirtu Santo) not Apostolo Sao Matheus Eric Edgar On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 7:02 AM, mnk kamis...@comcast.net wrote: Godparents were Manoel Jose

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Baptism Record Translation Help-Francisco

2014-04-22 Thread mances
Francisco, filho de Francisco Gonçalves, natural desta freguesia da Feteira, e de sua mulher Rita Ignacia, natural da Paroquial do Apóstolo São Mateus do Pico, e fregueses da sobredita freguesia da Feteira, Paroquial do Apóstolo São Mateus, digo, Paroquial do Divino Espírito Santo, neto pela

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Baptism Record Translation Help-Francisco

2014-04-22 Thread Dano
Diane, with difficult records I sometimes find it easier to copy out the narrative in Portuguese, then translate it to English. Also, sometimes enlarging the document helps to make out some of the more difficult words. Anyway, This is what I came up with: *Francisco, son of Francisco

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Baptism Record Translation Help-Francisco

2014-04-22 Thread Diane George
Thanks to all who helped. I think I have most of it now and will start looking for the parents and grandparents. Diane George From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dano Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2014 10:04 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject:

[AZORES-Genealogy] Bizarre...but is it true?

2014-04-22 Thread Liliana Harris
I had thought I would travel to the Azores this summer and do a little research in the cemeteries. Now I read (again, I will admit, fiction) that the people dig up (all?) the bodies after a certain number of years. Can this possibly be true, especially in a Catholic culture? Why? Where would

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Baptism Record Translation Help-Francisco

2014-04-22 Thread Manuel Martins
Antonio Homem and Josefa dos Ramos. Notice the H after the Antonio abbreviation. The R for Ramos was hard but that's the only word that make sense. On 4/22/2014 1:04 PM, Dano wrote: Diane, with difficult records I sometimes find it easier to copy out the narrative in Portuguese, then

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Bizarre...but is it true?

2014-04-22 Thread Cheri Mello
Liliana, Yes, the remains are dug up and put into a crypt (I think the correct word is ossuary). The grave is then reused. It has nothing to do with being Catholic. There is not enough room for all those bodies that have populated the islands since the 1400s. It's a necessity. The only way

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Bizarre...but is it true?

2014-04-22 Thread E Sharp
Liliana, Not sure about the Azores, but in other areas of Europe after a number of years this is true. My friends in Germany told me that if they wanted to continue to have their father remain where he was, they could either pay again or the area would be reused. Not sure what they did with the

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Bizarre...but is it true?

2014-04-22 Thread nancy jean baptiste
Liliana, I'd like to read some of the books you mentionnames? When I first looked in the cemetery in Candelaria for my ancestors there were many names I recognized but there weren't many old graves. They were however, very interesting with little wooden cribs built around them with

[AZORES-Genealogy] Bizarre...but is it true?

2014-04-22 Thread Herb
Yes it's true. I have lived and travelled to dozens of countries and this practice is common all over the world. There isn't enough room for all the bodies. My grandfather died in Terceira and was buried there in 1940, aged 40. When I lived in Terceira I went to the cemeteries to search for

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Bizarre...but is it true?

2014-04-22 Thread Liliana Harris
Thank you, Cheri. (It seems I've thanked you a lot since I started this quest.) The information is a letdown, but now I understand the reason for it. I had pictured myself prowling around old cemeteries, finding clues, and doing grave rubbings. I guess not. On Tuesday, April 22, 2014 5:59:18

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Bizarre...but is it true?

2014-04-22 Thread Liliana Harris
From all the responses, I can see I've lived a limited life--at least in terms of burial customs! Thank you for the history lesson--truly. I love learning new facts like this. You can be sure I'll contribute what you wrote at some dinner party soon...and impress everyone with my new-found

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Bizarre...but is it true?

2014-04-22 Thread Liliana Harris
Hello Nancy (or is it Nancy Jean?) Now I feel a bit foolish. It's not many books; it's just one. It's part fiction, set on the island of Pico, and part a lot of background information about the Azores. The title is Saudade, but it's written in English. The author is Miriam Winthrop. I think

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Bizarre...but is it true?

2014-04-22 Thread Liliana Harris
Hi E, This is so interesting. I guess it's just unfamiliar to Americans because we have such a new country, filled with so much open space. Liliana On Tuesday, April 22, 2014 6:05:24 PM UTC-7, E Sharp wrote: Liliana, Not sure about the Azores, but in other areas of Europe after a number of

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Bizarre...but is it true? (YEP!)

2014-04-22 Thread Shirl Sereque
My Protestant grandmother is buried in a cemetery in Boston (Mass.) and another lady is buried on top of her. The other lady's name is on the tombstone. - Shirl - From: Liliana Harris lilianah...@gmail.com To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 22,

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Bizarre...but is it true?

2014-04-22 Thread pico
Same happens in Hungary.I did a search for my great-great-grandfather there and found the cemetery, but no sign of his remains or headstone (if he ever had one) from the 1860s.But one way to look at it is also beneficial. I found in one Hungarian village someone with the same rather unique surname

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] religious items

2014-04-22 Thread Cheri Mello
I have my great-grandma's rosary beads. They are plastic and look like the ones you give children that are color coded so you know which decade you are in. They are well worn. I don't think there are any traditions about passing them down. I wound up with them because I wind up with everything

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Bizarre...but is it true?

2014-04-22 Thread Cheryl Barnhurst
I know in Switzerland the bones are put in the basement of a church. My friend got pictures through a broken window years ago. I can't remember how long the body stays in the grave before the bones are moved to the church. Apparently this happens a lot. Sherry Sent from my iPad On Apr 22,

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Bizarre...but is it true?

2014-04-22 Thread Mary Bordi
Six of my ancestors were buried inside the church (late 1700s early 1800s). Probably more...those are the obits that I have. I had visited that church when I traveled to the Azores. But at that time I did not know my people had been buried inside the church! I don't know if those had been dug up