Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] One Word Escapes Me...

2017-03-01 Thread Becky Mendonca
Intiada= stepdaughter On Mar 1, 2017 10:39 PM, "Sue Q" wrote: > http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/GRA- > SC-SANTACRUZ-B-1736-1749/GRA-SC-SANTACRUZ-B-1736-1749_item1/P352.html > > The record is the bottom one for Mateus and on the 8th line down it says > the godparents are Manu

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: One Word Escapes Me...

2017-03-01 Thread Sue Q
Thank you, Cheri. A new word for my list! On Wednesday, March 1, 2017 at 9:39:26 PM UTC-8, Sue Q wrote: > > > http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/GRA-SC-SANTACRUZ-B-1736-1749/GRA-SC-SANTACRUZ-B-1736-1749_item1/P352.html > > The record is the bottom one for Mateus and on the 8th li

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] One Word Escapes Me...

2017-03-01 Thread Cheri Mello
Intiada is a step-daughter. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 9:39 PM, Sue Q wrote: > http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/GRA- > SC-SANTACRUZ-B-1736-1749

[AZORES-Genealogy] One Word Escapes Me...

2017-03-01 Thread Sue Q
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/GRA-SC-SANTACRUZ-B-1736-1749/GRA-SC-SANTACRUZ-B-1736-1749_item1/P352.html The record is the bottom one for Mateus and on the 8th line down it says the godparents are Manuel de Bettencourt and his intiada... or infiada? I can't figure out that

[AZORES-Genealogy] Manuel da Costa and Anna de Sousa

2017-03-01 Thread Louie Avila
Am I reading correctly that the parents of both the bride and the groom are from Pico? and ... the bride and groom were baptized on Pico, Sao Matheus? Link: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-RIBEIRASECA-C-1723-1740/SJR-CH-RIBEIRASECA-C-1723-1740_item1/P23.html Bott

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] trans obit

2017-03-01 Thread Margaret Vicente
Cheri, The original book disappeared and in 1868 by the order of the Bishop the obits were re-entered on this one. This information is on page 1, left hand side, blue section headed "Abertura" http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-CEDROS-O-1833-1845/FAL-HT-CEDROS-O-1833-184

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: More Villages Online Now - Azorean Gravestone Project

2017-03-01 Thread Marilyn Thompson
I asked the date of the map because I was told that the area that my great grandparents came from had fallen into the ocean. They were from Salto Verde. I see Faja do Salto Verde on the Northern coastline. It is just west of the second longitude line from the lower end of the island. I know when w

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: azores currencies

2017-03-01 Thread linda
Hi Gordon, Those are really interesting questions. I might be able to help a bit with the question regarding the currency, but others will have to answer your questions on religious practice. Currency: The Real was the monetary unit in use until about 1910 and the end of the Portuguese monar

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Is "GUIAR" a last name or did priest abbreviate

2017-03-01 Thread Maria Lima
Thank you for explaining the name was the early form. Now I know how to enter it. I'm happy now🙂🙂 Maria Elena > On Mar 1, 2017, at 6:08 PM, Margaret Vicente > wrote: > > It is the early form of writing a surname with de, da, do. > > An example is (da Ruda, d'aRuda, de Arruda) > > In the

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Is "GUIAR" a last name or did priest abbreviate

2017-03-01 Thread Margaret Vicente
It is the early form of writing a surname with de, da, do. An example is (da Ruda, d'aRuda, de Arruda) In the case here we have ( da Guiar, d'aGuiar, de Aguiar) The surname is "de Aguiar" Cheers On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 5:13 PM Ângela Loura wrote: > Imagine an apostrophe there, Maria d'aguiar >

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] more help

2017-03-01 Thread Elizabeth Migliori
Ya she's a headache!!I'm trying to find a Rosa Maria actually. MAYBE! I have an Antonio marring a Maria Rosa and she dies in 1836 so I was looking for a Rosa Maria after that marrying Antonio because one of their sons baptism doc says mother is Rosa Maria. But you know how that goes. UHG

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Is "GUIAR" a last name or did priest abbreviate

2017-03-01 Thread Ângela Loura
Imagine an apostrophe there, Maria d'aguiar - Mensagem Original - De: "Maria Lima" Enviado: ‎01/‎03/‎2017 21:43 Para: "AZORES" Assunto: [AZORES-Genealogy] Is "GUIAR" a last name or did priest abbreviate LEFT PAGE BOTTOM RECORD Is the bride's mother named Maria Da Aguiar? Did the prie

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] more help

2017-03-01 Thread 'Pat Paquette' via Azores Genealogy
Liz-I believe this Maria Rosa may be my second great grandmother. 4 years ago when I joined this group EH Silveira sent me 2 attachments. One was an 11 page register report for Francisco Pereira Dutra Escobar and the second is a 60 page Ahnentafel report for myself. If you want a copy email me

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translate Obit

2017-03-01 Thread Elizabeth Migliori
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-CEDROS-B-1823-1830/FAL-HT-CEDROS-B-1823-1830_item1/P86.html so could this be his baptism? top left. What does it say in the left column about the year 1841? On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 1:18 PM, Cheri Mello wrote: > Yes, 62 or so. > In the

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Is "GUIAR" a last name or did priest abbreviate

2017-03-01 Thread Cheri Mello
I didn't think Aguiar used the de da do prefix. But that's my guess. He used it and meant to write d'Aguiar. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[AZORES-Genealogy] Is "GUIAR" a last name or did priest abbreviate

2017-03-01 Thread Maria Lima
LEFT PAGE BOTTOM RECORD Is the bride's mother named Maria Da Aguiar? Did the priest abbreviate d Aguiar?? I'm not sure how to enter it in the program. Help? Thanks! http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-GINETES-C-1646-1713/SMG-PD-GINETES-C-1646-1713_item1/P16.html

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] more help

2017-03-01 Thread Cheri Mello
4th line: Antonio Silveira v.o (abbreviation for viuvo, widower) of Maria Rosa, marrying with (com) Maria Rosa, the legitimate daughter of Antonio Silveira and Maria Rosa. No ages, as that's usually in the 3rd time period of 1860s onward. But it mentions that they met their Lenten obligations. Ch

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] more help

2017-03-01 Thread Rosemarie Capodicci
Boy, I don't blame you on this one! Antonio da Silveira widower of Maria Rosa to (com) Maria Rosa daughter of Antonio Silveira and Maria Rosa. I don't think there is any impediment to the marriage but I may be wrong. Rosemarie rcap...@gmail.com Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] trans obit

2017-03-01 Thread Cheri Mello
Yes, she died 22 Nov 1836. I don't know why the date at the end of those records. I don't work the Cedros, Faial records. I wonder if the priest has rewritten the death book from the original and he's dating the entries? There's a few with each date and it's chronological as I looked a couple of i

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: More Villages Online Now - Azorean Gravestone Project

2017-03-01 Thread 'Jeremy G. B-C' via Azores Genealogy
Mary the one I uploaded is less then half the quality of the big ones I have scanned... That one was shrunk for space. I just sent you an email with the good scan of SJ. I have had these a while, but just got permission to use them like this because copyright has not been renewed., Jeremy

[AZORES-Genealogy] more help

2017-03-01 Thread Elizabeth Migliori
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-CEDROS-C-1829-1847/FAL-HT-CEDROS-C-1829-1847_item1/P61.html Ok I just plain don't get this one. Antonio Silveira and Maria Rosa and Maria Rosa is the legitimate daughter of Antonio Silveira and Maria Rosa??? there is some scribble after

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translate Obit

2017-03-01 Thread Cheri Mello
Yes, 62 or so. In the left column, under the name of Antonio, it says "solteiro" although it looks almost like "falteiro." Single man, not married. Also in the document, it says he doesn't have children. Or he had them, he never owned up to it publicly. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researchin

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translate Obit

2017-03-01 Thread Elizabeth Migliori
Ok so double s is 60 so 62 so he was born 1827? Does it say who he was married to or if he was. I only see parents names On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 12:03 PM, Cheri Mello wrote: > The double "s" looks like our handwritten "fs". The handwriting looks > like: sefsenta. You can see how the "t" is cro

[AZORES-Genealogy] trans obit

2017-03-01 Thread Elizabeth Migliori
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-CEDROS-O-1833-1845/FAL-HT-CEDROS-O-1833-1845_item1/P23.html Maria Rosa Middle right sidewhat or why does it say Dec 4, 1868 at the end of her notice? Is her death Nov 22, 1836? and she was 50 yrs old thx Liz -- You received this

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] ST. Francis dress at burials

2017-03-01 Thread 'John Raposo' via Azores Genealogy
Your ancestors were members of the Franciscan Third Order, known today as Lay Franciscans. They still exist today, even in the US, and many still opt to take the brown robe to the grave. There are other lay orders whose members wear their distinctive habbits to the grave. John Miranda Raposo

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Monte de Baixo, in Candelária?

2017-03-01 Thread Kathy Cardoza
Thank you, Mary! That’s a big help.Very interesting database! Now to just find it on a map, lol. Kathy ~~~ Visit the Azores GenWeb Project: http://www.rootsweb.com/~azrwgw/index.html Climb my Family Tree: http://www

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translate Obit

2017-03-01 Thread Cheri Mello
The double "s" looks like our handwritten "fs". The handwriting looks like: sefsenta. You can see how the "t" is crossed at the end of the word. I've given you the clues, now I'm going to let you take a guess. Cheri Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, P

[AZORES-Genealogy] Translate Obit

2017-03-01 Thread Elizabeth Migliori
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-CEDROS-O-1885-1897/FAL-HT-CEDROS-O-1885-1897_item1/P56.html Antonio # 7 left side can someone tell me how old he is. I can't tell if that's Sessenta or Setenta thx Liz -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Goo

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] First Identified DNA Match

2017-03-01 Thread Cheri Mello
The Parental Matching is a tool to help you split your match list into paternal and maternal matches. If that's not of use to you, then no need to identify who is who or to link them. Hopefully most people will get into doing the Parental Matching so FTDNA can use the statistics to improve the ran

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Azores Visit (Graciosa -- da Silva) -- UPDATE

2017-03-01 Thread Cheri Mello
In Ponta Delgada, the main city on Sao Miguel, I've seen street signs with both the old and new names. Don't know about smaller freguesias and smaller islands. Cheri Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Ac

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Azores Visit (Graciosa -- da Silva) -- UPDATE

2017-03-01 Thread Donald Vasconcelos
Ken, My cousin is currently in Terceira, and he is going over to Graciosa next week. I will ask him to pick up a street map of the island for you. He knows Graciosa very well since he has been going there since he was 8. He is now in his 40's. My e-mail is dfvasc...@gmail.com Don Vasconcelos Se

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Monte de Baixo, in Candelária?

2017-03-01 Thread Mary Bordi
Well, there is a location in the postal code list by that name: http://m.prt.postcodelist.com/region/Candel-ria_4v.html (I'm having fun with the postal code list today!) Mary On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 7:35 AM Kathy Cardoza wrote: > My 2nd great grandfather, Joao de Andrade de Macedo, according t

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] First Identified DNA Match

2017-03-01 Thread M. Stringer
Hi Cheri, That was fast. Thanks. That puts my ‘lowish’ numbers in a reasonable framework. OK. Forgot that the numbers go down in a pattern per the generations. Given the similar (and changing) names I see (or think I see) some potential for interfamily relationships. I have a direct-lin

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Azores Visit (Graciosa -- da Silva) -- UPDATE

2017-03-01 Thread Mary Bordi
This isn't a map but it's a list of streets and postal codes for Graciosa. Not sure if all streets are there. It has been interesting for me to browse my Sao Jorge communities so it might be interesting for you to look at Graciosa. http://m.prt.postcodelist.com/region/Santa-Cruz-da-Graciosa_3.htm

[AZORES-Genealogy] azores currencies

2017-03-01 Thread Gordon Soares
In many of the documents of burials for my ancestors I see the following: “she was buried in the church of Lajes and it will be paid 8 VINTENS for the grave”. Likewise. “He didn’t make a will and there will be 200 reis paid for the grave.” Also, In her will she determined she wanted 30

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: More Villages Online Now - Azorean Gravestone Project

2017-03-01 Thread Mary Bordi
Wow, beautifully detailed map! I have been looking for one like that of Sao Jorge. I saw one on display when I visited 10 years ago but was unable to buy one at the time. Mary On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 9:46 PM 'Jeremy G. B-C' via Azores Genealogy < azores@googlegroups.com> wrote: > CEMETERY MAP F

[AZORES-Genealogy] ST. Francis dress at burials

2017-03-01 Thread Gordon Soares
Does anyone know the significance of the deceased being buried in the habit of St. Francis? I have several documents of my ancestors being buried with the sacraments and requesting that they be buried in the “habit of St. Francis” and then being carried to the grave with the priests and followed

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Azores Visit (Graciosa -- da Silva) -- UPDATE

2017-03-01 Thread E. Sharp
Don't be surprised if the street name is changed or is no longer there. "E" Sent from my iphone >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: More Villages Online Now - Azorean Gravestone Project

2017-03-01 Thread 'Jeremy G. B-C' via Azores Genealogy
This map is from the early 1980's. Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 8:27 AM, Cheri Mello wrote: After 1954 or so. Faial had that eruption that made it the shape it is today. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, R

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Azores Visit (Graciosa -- da Silva) -- UPDATE

2017-03-01 Thread Ken Waters
Hi Susan, Wow, I didn't know about that. Thank you so much for catching that. Does anybody on the list know where I can get a good map of Graciosa that would include street names? Google Maps only labels no more than 5-10% of the streets for the island. There must be a better map somewhere---s

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] First Identified DNA Match

2017-03-01 Thread Cheri Mello
If you are 3C1R on paper, yes, a 55 cM block does support that. X matches need to be 10 cM or more. Otherwise, it's too far back. You share 5.3 cMs with Pat on the X. So don't bother trying to figure that one out. You need get Pat's lineage into your tree and upload a new Gedcom to FTDNA. Link Pa

[AZORES-Genealogy] First Identified DNA Match

2017-03-01 Thread M. Stringer
Hi, Finally, an identified match – of course, with questions. My FTDNA tree is updated, X-Match chart printed/colored, other visual aids created and now exploring others’ trees. The match is to Pat Nostrome (I think part of the project)? Per FTDNA, the numbers are: 55 shared CM; 28 longest

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Azores Visit (Graciosa -- da Silva) -- UPDATE

2017-03-01 Thread Cheri Mello
The archives that holds the records for Graciosa is in Angra, on Terceira (they hold Terceira, Graciosa, and Sao Jorge islands). The dispensation for all 9 islands are in Angra (since Angra is the Diocese seat). I seem to remember all inter-island flights are SATA. After thinking about my experi

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: UPEC membership file question

2017-03-01 Thread Sami
Thanks to everyone who answered. I really appreciate your explanations and have a better understanding now of how the records work! On Tuesday, February 28, 2017 at 10:53:24 PM UTC-6, Sami wrote: > > I am trying to find some ancestors and since this particular one farmed > in Concord with her

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Monte de Baixo, in Candelária?

2017-03-01 Thread Kathy Cardoza
Oops! Candelaria, Pico. ~~~ Visit the Azores GenWeb Project: http://www.rootsweb.com/~azrwgw/index.html Climb my Family Tree: http://www.kathys-place.com/Kathy/index.php

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Monte de Baixo, in Candelária?

2017-03-01 Thread Cheri Mello
Where? On Sao Miguel? Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 7:35 AM, Kathy Cardoza wrote: > My 2nd great grandfather, Joao de Andrade de Macedo, according to his > obito, die

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: More Villages Online Now - Azorean Gravestone Project

2017-03-01 Thread Cheri Mello
After 1954 or so. Faial had that eruption that made it the shape it is today. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 7:33 AM, Marilyn Thompson wrote: > Jeremy > > Do you know

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Azores Visit (Graciosa -- da Silva) -- UPDATE

2017-03-01 Thread Marilyn Thompson
You may be able to look on Google Earth to find the street before you go. I remember Joao showing us his home on the island using it. Just a thought. I hope you have a great trip and find what you want to. Marilyn On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 8:48 AM, 'Susan Murphy' via Azores Genealogy < azores@googl

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Azores Visit (Graciosa -- da Silva) -- UPDATE

2017-03-01 Thread 'Susan Murphy' via Azores Genealogy
Hi Ken, I think you have made some great decisions and are making wonderful progress! Sorry to scare you off of SATA but I have a feeling that the flight that you take from Terceira to Graciosa might be with SATA? I really am no expert at all, but I want to reassure you, if it is, that those i

[AZORES-Genealogy] Monte de Baixo, in Candelária?

2017-03-01 Thread Kathy Cardoza
My 2nd great grandfather, Joao de Andrade de Macedo, according to his obito, died in Monte de Baixo, in Candelária, (as did his wife). I have searched maps and cannot find this. Is it a road, a neighborhood, or what? Anyone know? Kathy

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: More Villages Online Now - Azorean Gravestone Project

2017-03-01 Thread Marilyn Thompson
Jeremy Do you know the date this map was made? I am curious because it includes an area of Sao Jorge the was supposed to have fallen off into the ocean. Thanks Marilyn On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 10:43 PM, 'Jeremy G. B-C' via Azores Genealogy < azores@googlegroups.com> wrote: > CEMETERY MAP FINDER:

[AZORES-Genealogy] Azores Visit (Graciosa -- da Silva) -- UPDATE

2017-03-01 Thread Ken Waters
All, Thanks so much for the replies and suggestions. I combined all my comments and updates into one e-mail in order to avoid posting too many individual posts on the list. Given the comments I saw on SATA it sounds like using TAP as proposed may be a good choice. I think I'd like to pass on get