Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Felicissima or Felicisima

2016-12-18 Thread Margaret Vicente
Still double S FeliSSima. You're welcome.! On Sun, Dec 18, 2016 at 1:13 AM, Cheri Mello wrote: > What is the modern spelling of Felicissima? Is it with a double S > (Felicissima) or a single S (Felicisima)? > Thanks! > Cheri Mello > Listowner, Azores-Gen > Researching:

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Can you tell me what this means

2016-12-18 Thread Margaret Vicente
Louie et al I think I can help. It's in short form. rs/Fredonda He dies in rs=Ribeira seca Fredonda = Faja Redonda On Sun, Dec 18, 2016 at 3:37 AM, LouieLouieOhOh wrote: > Thanks Cheri ... > > I'll look for his death record ... there is a ship named Fredonia ... >

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Anna Cabral

2016-12-17 Thread Margaret Vicente
FreGuesia is a civil parish On Sat, Dec 17, 2016 at 1:56 PM Cheri Mello wrote: > The 4th letter is a G, not a Q: F-R-E-G-U-E-S-I-A. > > We use it like the word village, but it doesn't translate properly, so we > don't translate it. > > Cheri Mello > Listowner, Azores-Gen >

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] A challenge if you want it.

2016-12-16 Thread Margaret Vicente
Louie, the index reads year 1733 page 42v It took a little poking around because the CCA page is not broken down by year, but it was found. Here you go: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-PV-FONTINHAS-C-1720-1774/TER-PV-FONTINHAS-C-1720-1774_item1/P81.html On Fri, Dec

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] conflicting baptismal records

2016-12-15 Thread Margaret Vicente
Monica, did you get the parents marriage record? This will give you the answer. Indeed you may have the wrong document. If you attach the link or provide place and date someone may be able to help with the answer On Thu, Dec 15, 2016 at 12:44 PM Cheri Mello wrote: > Monica

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Azores female literacy in 1900?

2016-12-13 Thread Margaret Vicente
Thank you, Linda. It is information like this that is important to fairly substantiate the progress or lack of it in any culture. If thus represented in one or two islands, it can also be used as the yardstick for the rest of the islands. Well done! On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 12:54 PM linda

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] where and when did he die

2016-12-12 Thread Margaret Vicente
Hi, The Hospital was located in the parish of Sao Jose, Ponta Delgada. That is where you will find it in the CCA website, however, there are no records before 1845. On Mon, Dec 12, 2016 at 12:42 PM, pjm47 wrote: > After successfully going back 3 generations in Santa Cruz

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] An ancestor in question

2016-12-11 Thread Margaret Vicente
I think you have the right, yes, instead of marriage status you may choose another, such as other or friend in the options. One possibility is that he may have left the island. I would check the obituaries also. You never know what you'll find. Perhaps he married someone else or, younger than

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] An ancestor in question

2016-12-10 Thread Margaret Vicente
Louie, At birth his father was declared, incognito. At marriage the priest declares he is the NATURAL son of Jose de Sousa Borba. You're lucky, he was mentioned. The parents did not get married. Please note that Antonio is using the maternal family surname, this also indicates his father did

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] translate please

2016-12-10 Thread Margaret Vicente
Cher, Liz the date at the of the left pg is the date the notary (lawyer) set in his home to take the father's deposition who out of his own conscience was assuming Manuel as his son with all the legal rights of any son. There are no hints of age. I've seen this happen some times 12 - 20 years

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Did I find the right passport?

2016-12-09 Thread Margaret Vicente
Yes, and yes, it was. Some times up to 4 and 5 Marias If you look at the 17 year old Maria, record # 52 year 1890, on the top right page, 6th line down, it reads"secunda de nome", second of the name. This confirms she is the 2nd Maria of this family thus far. Elaine, You mentioned Maria's

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Did I find the right passport?

2016-12-09 Thread Margaret Vicente
Sorry, bottom left, record # 11 On Fri, Dec 9, 2016 at 1:00 PM, Margaret Vicente <margaretvice...@gmail.com> wrote: > Thanks, Cheri. > > Based on this record, I think the passports record information is wrong > and this is Elaine's family. And to prove this, here's the 20

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Did I find the right passport?

2016-12-09 Thread Margaret Vicente
Thanks, Cheri. Based on this record, I think the passports record information is wrong and this is Elaine's family. And to prove this, here's the 20 year old Maria's birth record in R. Quente:

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Did I find the right passport?

2016-12-09 Thread Margaret Vicente
Elaine, it is too coincidental if all names and ages match your family?? One thing is for certain, this group is from Ponta Delgada. There could be no mistake because it was all based on providing proof of birth and filing an application to obtain a passport. You mentioned going back to check

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Did I find the right passport?

2016-12-09 Thread Margaret Vicente
Hi Elaine, This record is for Francisca Rosa de Melo, as you noted, passport # 675 travelling with her children (named below) who are all natives of Sao Roque, Ponta Delgada. If your Maria de Lima is from Ribeira Quente, these are not your family. The two (2) sisters you see, one is named Maria

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Azores passport process

2016-12-08 Thread Margaret Vicente
Hi, this is actually an application for his passport. The document states he was a (exposto) foundling raised by you can find his birth record on line I don't have access to my desktop today. I can have another try tomorrow if no one else in the list has not assisted by then. On Thu, Dec 8,

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help confirming names in baptism text

2016-12-04 Thread Margaret Vicente
Sorry, missed looking at line 11, the Godfather is Antonio de Azevedo Machado. On Sun, Dec 4, 2016 at 7:10 PM, Cheri Mello wrote: > Line 11: Yes, there is a 2nd abbreviation after Azevedo. Alvarado > > Cheri Mello > Listowner, Azores-Gen > Researching: São Miguel

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help confirming names in baptism text

2016-12-04 Thread Margaret Vicente
Victor, all correct. One small note d'Azevedo gave way to current times (de Azevedo) On Sun, Dec 4, 2016 at 2:27 PM, Victor Soares wrote: > Hello, > I'm entering the time period where baptism records include abbreviations. > Since I'm not practiced in identifying these,

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] How do I figure out which Jose Soares deFigueiredo this is?

2016-12-02 Thread Margaret Vicente
Custodio is his brother's first name. And it says he is 60 years old +/- On Fri, Dec 2, 2016 at 10:13 PM, aportugee via Azores Genealogy < azores@googlegroups.com> wrote: > Rosemarie, Margaret & Cheri; Thank you for your help on this one. > > > > Margaret, Feteiras makes sense as that is where

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] How do I figure out which Jose Soares de Figueiredo this is?

2016-12-02 Thread Margaret Vicente
It also says, he was living in Feteiras, Santa Barbara. His Brother is named, 8th line from the top, and he is Custodio Jose de Figueiredo. On Fri, Dec 2, 2016 at 9:07 PM, aportugee via Azores Genealogy < azores@googlegroups.com> wrote: >

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Daughter of dirty parents whose names are ignored

2016-11-30 Thread Margaret Vicente
Cheri the word is Cujo not sujo. Cujo=qual (whose) parents we don't know their names On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 11:55 AM Cheri Mello wrote: > Jeremy asked me about this record for Anna Silveira, #28, bottom right > (7th line from the bottom): > >

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Margin note - 1853 Baptism in Ribeira Quente, Sao Miguel

2016-11-30 Thread Margaret Vicente
.@gmail.com> wrote: > > Wait. I think the month is March or maybe May. I'm not seeing the "h" or > any tall letter at the end for Junho. Could the year be 1942 or 1946? If it > was 1966, she would be 113 years old! > > Cheri Mello > Listowner, Azores-Gen &

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Margin note - 1853 Baptism in Ribeira Quente, Sao Miguel

2016-11-29 Thread Margaret Vicente
Here's my try: O individuo a que se refere este registro faleceu houje na Ribeira Quente. Vinte centavos mais os cincoenta centavos por este assento. Povoacao, aos vinte e tres de Junho de mil nove centos e sessenta e seis. The individual referred herewith passed away today in Ribeira Quente.

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Graciosa, birth in Guadalupe 26.3.1747

2016-11-29 Thread Margaret Vicente
Eliseu, Right page, 2nd record: Manuel Vieira e Beatriz do Rosario On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 7:10 AM, Eliseu Pacheco da Silva < eliseuman...@gmail.com> wrote: > I need help reading the father’s and mother’s name: > > > > - http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/GRA- >

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Interesting marriage - buried above the sea?

2016-11-25 Thread Margaret Vicente
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, > Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada > > On Fri, Nov 25, 2016 at 5:46 PM, Margaret Vicente < > margaretvice...@gmail.com> wrote: > > 1. sepultado no alto mar, na altura de Cabo Verde vindo do Ri

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Interesting marriage - buried above the sea?

2016-11-25 Thread Margaret Vicente
1. sepultado no alto mar, na altura de Cabo Verde vindo do Rio de Janeiro, como justificado com testemunhas oculares. Translation: Buried at high Sea, at Cape Verde's level coming from Rio de Janeiro, as justifified by witnesses who saw it. The priest is correct. It is almost a

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] marriage record in agua de pau

2016-11-25 Thread Margaret Vicente
Amy, this couple are my relatives. Groom: Caetano de Medeiros son of Francisco de Oliveira and Maria de Medeiros Bride: Margarida de Medeiros daughter of Miguel de Rezendes (Resendes), deaceased, and Maria de Oliveira. Both Baptised in the parish of N Senhora dos Anjos Marriage date:

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Hawaii Migration: Was their opposition in Portugal to contract laborers?

2016-11-18 Thread Margaret Vicente
Hi, not disagreeing with what is said and so noted but there may be different factors at play. One of eh I was s the pressure the Gov was put under by the the Landowners of the islands who were faced with an exodus of their best hands. Many of whom had connections to the mainland who would try all

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Horta Archive web site

2016-11-17 Thread Margaret Vicente
Thank you, Cheri! On Thu, Nov 17, 2016 at 1:38 PM, Cheri Mello wrote: > The Horta Archive web site has its own page (no flag to English though). > It's also trying to be portal to other genealogical things too (CCA, > CITCEM, emigration to Brazil, some unpublished

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH MARRIAGE TRANSLATION

2016-11-17 Thread Margaret Vicente
Carmen, Isabel is from Ponta Garça. Go find her there. You're welcome. Margaret On Thu, Nov 17, 2016 at 3:37 PM, 'carmen furtado' via Azores Genealogy < azores@googlegroups.com> wrote: > http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG- >

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] What is the significance of the side note.

2016-11-14 Thread Margaret Vicente
George, it also means "inheritance" where certification is required. Check of parents or grandparents obit dates. Margaret On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 12:54 PM, George Sousa wrote: > Florinda and Antonio were married on February 4th 1875 and as far as I > know they did not

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH MARRIAGE TRANSLATION

2016-11-09 Thread Margaret Vicente
e month on it > > > http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1786-1795/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1786-1795_item1/P83.html > > maria > > does it have may on it? > > thank you > > carmen > > > > > > > ----

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH MARRIAGE TRANSLATION

2016-11-09 Thread Margaret Vicente
Nothing else listed, and she was born 04-May-1790 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1786-1795/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1786-1795_item1/P86.html On Wed, Nov 9, 2016 at 8:53 AM, 'carmen furtado' via Azores Genealogy < azores@googlegroups.com> wrote: >

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Jose de Souza Mancebo's father's name

2016-11-07 Thread Margaret Vicente
uessing the name of the father but now I'm more > confident, thanks to you and the other wonderful people on this list. > > Thank you all > > Maria Elena > > On Nov 7, 2016, at 12:18 PM, Margaret Vicente <margaretvice...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > Hi Maria, > >

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Jose de Souza Mancebo's father's name

2016-11-07 Thread Margaret Vicente
Maria, sorry, the nickname is NOT tramapinhoit is Tramocinho. On Mon, Nov 7, 2016 at 11:07 AM, Maria Lima wrote: > Thanks Cheri and Rosemarie, > > I just SAW IT! . The mother's last name is SOUZA! But what I'm stumped on > is the whole name of Jose's father.

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Jose de Souza Mancebo's father's name

2016-11-07 Thread Margaret Vicente
Hi Maria, Re your question Sousa (TRA). it stands for tramapinho. As far as I can determine this is an alcunha or nickname. "trama" is a quality of pine. You can check for yourself, marriage record link below, top left. The groom is Jose de Sousa da Silva son of Jose the Sousa tramapinho and

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Jose de Souza Mancebo's father's name

2016-11-07 Thread Margaret Vicente
Maria and Rosemarie, priest omission of the father's full name. However, the groom name is Jose de Sousa (Mancebo) is not a surname, it is a qualifier i.e. the young one. Following this clue the father's name should be Jose de Sousa, also. Maria will have to find his baptism record to confirm.

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] DO I SEARCH Faial da Terra FOR THIS ONE?

2016-11-06 Thread Margaret Vicente
Carmen, the groom on the left hand side is Jacinto Soares de Oliveira and he along with his bride are naturals of Vila Franca. One thing to note is that both of his parents are deceased which might indicate he may be older than you're allowing for in your search range. Margaret On Sun, Nov 6,

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with marriage please.

2016-11-05 Thread Margaret Vicente
The writing is clear...first it says that Afonso's parents reside in the parish of Monçao (Monsao). This place is in Viana do Castelo, Portugal. .starting where it reads...*sem embardo do dicto Afonso Roiz nao mostrar certidao de sua tr.a (terra) por vir della antes de idade de quatorze anos

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with the date of death please

2016-11-04 Thread Margaret Vicente
meant to sayexterior front door *area*. On Fri, Nov 4, 2016 at 11:06 PM, Cheri Mello wrote: > 2 May 1852. I had to read the next two records below to get the year. > ... and he was buried in the "airo?" of this church at on the 11th* day of > the same month and year. >

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with the date of death please

2016-11-04 Thread Margaret Vicente
Cheri, it is "adro" which is the exterior front door are, the "forecourt" or churchyard. On Fri, Nov 4, 2016 at 11:06 PM, Cheri Mello wrote: > 2 May 1852. I had to read the next two records below to get the year. > ... and he was buried in the "airo?" of this church at on

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH TRANSLATIONS

2016-11-03 Thread Margaret Vicente
Hi Carmen, According to these records, none of these children were adopted or "perfilhadas" because if they were it would be annotated on the record with the parents names or point to another book with that information. The word after Inacia (Ignacia) Maria is "Joaquina" the full name is Inacia

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] History of Faial, mid-1700s

2016-11-03 Thread Margaret Vicente
Here's the Azores chronology of Natural disasters but it is in Portuguese. https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cronologia_de_desastres_naturais_nos_A%C3%A7ores On Thu, Nov 3, 2016 at 1:39 AM, Cheri Mello wrote: > Repost for mufflevski at gmail.com > > Hello, I'm very interested

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] History of Faial, mid-1700s

2016-11-03 Thread Margaret Vicente
Sorry, to answer your question and according to the timeline here's what happened in Faial in the 1700 hundredes. Hope you can read it. It was an Epidemic in the places you mentioned - 1717 -1718 — Epidemia no Faial

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Information about relationships in this baptismal record

2016-10-31 Thread Margaret Vicente
They are children of Mateus Lobao but of different mothers. The godfather is son of D. Maria (deceased) the Godmother is daughter of his 2nd wife, Ana. On Mon, Oct 31, 2016 at 11:16 PM, wrote: > This baptismal record is for Manuel, the second entry on the right hand > page.

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] New book in CCA: SMG-LG-AGUADEPAU-O-1822-1844

2016-10-28 Thread Margaret Vicente
Thank you Joao! On Fri, Oct 28, 2016 at 4:59 PM João Ventura wrote: > Hi everyone, > > This morning, the tombo.pt site detected a "new" death records book, it's > from the Água de Pau parish in São Miguel, covering the years 1822 to 1844. > > >

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: help finding marriage record rabo de peixe

2016-10-26 Thread Margaret Vicente
Amy, you have the correct obit record for it states her husband's full name. You will find as you continue searches that the obits' records give approximate ages. Watch for the words (more or less). On Wed, Oct 26, 2016 at 12:15 PM, Amy Francis wrote: > Also

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] help finding marriage record rabo de peixe

2016-10-25 Thread Margaret Vicente
Amy has it right on both accounts; Bicho and the Parish of Fenais, N. Sra. da Luz. On Tue, Oct 25, 2016 at 11:59 PM Cheri Mello wrote: > They are more likely to get married in the bride's parish. Hers clearly > says Rabo de Peixe. > > I'm confused on his. I can see Antonio

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with margin translation please (Magalhaes and Coelho surnames)

2016-10-25 Thread Margaret Vicente
Over the margin note is written "sem efeito" not valid. On Tue, Oct 25, 2016 at 8:50 PM aportugee via Azores Genealogy < azores@googlegroups.com> wrote: > Hello all; I’m very confused. I think the record is saying Jacintho born > 27 May 1904, son of Antonio Joaquim de Magalhaes who is a sailor

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] AM I FIGURING THIS ONE OUT RIGHT?

2016-10-24 Thread Margaret Vicente
d your GGP. On Mon, Oct 24, 2016 at 1:59 PM, Margaret Vicente <margaretvice...@gmail.com > wrote: > Carmen. > > It was helpful, in discerning a timeline, thank you. > > From this I can tell you the record you are looking at for Antonio given > to Umbelina is not your G. G

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] AM I FIGURING THIS ONE OUT RIGHT?

2016-10-24 Thread Margaret Vicente
875-1879_item1/P41.html > > thank you > > carmen > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 10/24/16, Margaret Vicente <margaretvice...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] AM I FIGURING THIS ONE OUT RIGHT? > To: azores@googlegroups.com &g

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] AM I FIGURING THIS ONE OUT RIGHT?

2016-10-24 Thread Margaret Vicente
Carmen, please post both links for the marriage of Antonio and for the baptism of your grandmother, his daughter so we may take a look. Thanks On Mon, Oct 24, 2016 at 10:48 AM 'carmen furtado' via Azores Genealogy < azores@googlegroups.com> wrote: > >

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Meaning of recolhida no reconhecimento"

2016-10-19 Thread Margaret Vicente
Hi, Maria Elena, not related to retirement. The obit reads: Mariana da Encarnacao, recolhida no Recolhimento da N. Senhora da Conceicao. The term "recolhida" was used to describe "Nun" or aspirant to be a Nun. Recolhimento means (Convent) of Nossa Senhora da Conceicao. On Wed, Oct 19,

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] 1749 Death Record in Calheta States Origin as Graciosa

2016-10-19 Thread Margaret Vicente
Margin Note: Aleixos Correia Cabral, foi tabeliao n'esta Vila. Era da Graciosa - 80 anos , was a Notary in this Vilage. Was from Graciosa - 80 years old He was a widower at time of death 08-Nov-1745 of his wife Ana (I can't get the right surname...looks like Mendonca?) On

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH DEATH TRANSLATION

2016-10-17 Thread Margaret Vicente
see his mother listed - wonder where i could find her name > > her father is António Boteilho > > her mother is Victoria de Medeiros - i have seen her listed as Quitéria de > Medeiros on another document > > carmen > > > > > > > > ---------

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] filha natural vs. filho adulterous

2016-10-17 Thread Margaret Vicente
They are all saying the same thing ie husband was away, not missing. The number of years gives the reader an insight at this lady's situation. Unfortunately this happened to many women on the islands with immigrated husbands. Some waited for many years, others didn't. Does this answer your

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] filha natural vs. filho adulterous

2016-10-17 Thread Margaret Vicente
Paul, Since no one with perhaps more expertise has yet come forth on this, I will write how I see it. The answer lies with the Priests that wrote the records.. Cura Francisco Ignacio Pacheco in 1880 writes "natural". He did not qualify how it came about but he describes by saying "husband was

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH DEATH TRANSLATION

2016-10-16 Thread Margaret Vicente
gt;> age 76 >> >> father antonio botelho >> >> mother victoria de medeiros >> >> i figure they got married about 1820 but the books start at 1835 - bummer >> >> thanks again >> >> carmen >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >&

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH DEATH TRANSLATION

2016-10-16 Thread Margaret Vicente
Obit date Dec 31 1839 Jose Liandro (Leandro modern spelling) residing in Lomba das Fagundas 44 years old Died without a will No parents' names given On Sun, Oct 16, 2016 at 1:48 PM, 'carmen furtado' via Azores Genealogy < azores@googlegroups.com> wrote: > i've been searching for days and hope

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help With Obituary Translation

2016-10-13 Thread Margaret Vicente
Hi, The side note says: A impossibilidade foi o mau tempo e uma queda que dei quando estava indo para a sepultura com o defunto. The bad weather was the impossibility and a fall that I took while on the way to the sepulchre with the deceased. On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 2:52 PM,

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with first 3 lines? Totally confused!

2016-10-09 Thread Margaret Vicente
Hi, It is not exactly that way. It reads: Jose, son of Ana Rosa, widow of Antonio Francisco, and of her (esposo) fiance Bartolomeu de Andrade, son of ... The child is that of the widow (Ana Rosa) and her boyfriend Bartolomeu. Nothing to do with the first husband. It uses his name as a

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Sao Roque (Rosto do Cao) Ponta Delgada, S. Miguel - Manuel Gonçalves and Isabel Lopes

2016-10-04 Thread Margaret Vicente
Manoel, many thanks! On Tue, Oct 4, 2016 at 2:14 PM mances wrote: > Margaret, > > Pedro Gonçalves and Maria Manuel > x > Antonio de Sousa, deceased, and Ana Gonçalves > > Manoel > > > Em terça-feira, 4 de outubro de 2016 13:28:45 UTC-3, Mara escreveu: > > Hello, > > Does

[AZORES-Genealogy] Sao Roque (Rosto do Cao) Ponta Delgada, S. Miguel - Manuel Gonçalves and Isabel Lopes

2016-10-04 Thread Margaret Vicente
Hello, Does anyone in the group have this couple, Manuel Goncalves and Isabel Lopes? They were married in Sao Roque, Ponta Delgada on the 10th of January? 1627, however the document is hard to read; (left side) names start on the 7th line from the top. Your help discerning, if possible, the

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: THE WORD "MARIA NTE" after man's name

2016-10-04 Thread Margaret Vicente
Sorry for posting to the wrong feed. On Tue, Oct 4, 2016 at 10:13 AM, Margaret Vicente <margaretvice...@gmail.com > wrote: > Hi Bill, > > I have lines going to Terceira, Sao Jorge, Graciosa, Flores e Faial and > Santa Maria. I searched through my husband but without

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: THE WORD "MARIA NTE" after man's name

2016-10-04 Thread Margaret Vicente
Hi Bill, I have lines going to Terceira, Sao Jorge, Graciosa, Flores e Faial and Santa Maria. I searched through my husband but without knowing how Oliver is matching you, perhaps in the future we will find it. Best, Margaret On Tue, Oct 4, 2016 at 12:25 AM, wrote: > I

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation

2016-10-03 Thread Margaret Vicente
Susanne check your mail please, I sent to you earlier On Mon, Oct 3, 2016 at 7:25 PM 'Suzanne Carreiro' via Azores Genealogy < azores@googlegroups.com> wrote: > Hello, I wonder if anyone can help me with the translation of this > document. Left hand page only. > > >

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation help

2016-10-03 Thread Margaret Vicente
Susanne, here's a summed up one for you. on the 17th day of the month of July of the year 1892 in this Matrix parish of Nossa Senhora da Estrela council of Ribeira Grandean individual of the female sex was born whom I named Dilia, that was born in this parish at 10 am on the 14th day of

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Antonio de Sousa Estrela and Maria Rosa, NS da Estrella RG, SM

2016-09-27 Thread Margaret Vicente
Herb, This might be of interest: Maria, top left http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-B-1821-1824/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-B-1821-1824_item1/P35.html Maria's parents:

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Last name of Father? Francisco, son of Manoel (Santa Cruz, Flores, 1804)

2016-09-18 Thread Margaret Vicente
Mary, used your input and updated it to what I'm reading. Francisco son of Manoel Pimentel GUINE natural! de N. Sra. dos Remedios, and his wife Marianna Roza natural and parishioner of this Matrix of N.S. da Conceicao town of Santa Cruz, island of Flores paternal grandchild of Christovao

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation request

2016-09-17 Thread Margaret Vicente
Hi, (literal translation) to the best of ability. Documents in reference to an authorisation conceded by sub town hall of Horta to Lucano Garcia Terra, of the Madalena town, bidder of the vineyards income and of the houses of the extint convent of Carmo of Pico island. Cheers, On Fri, Sep 16,

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Family Finder Matches with people of Puerto Rican Ancestry

2016-09-16 Thread Margaret Vicente
Hi, the answer lies in the history records and it shows the Canaries belonged to Potugal. The Spanish took over the Azores islands and controlled for s little over 60 years when England mediated the deal where Potugal was to keep the Azores and Madeira and give up the Canarie's. Regarding Puerto

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Rosario Lagoa - Manuel Luis 1883 - Margin translation help

2016-09-14 Thread Margaret Vicente
before they had their second son, Antonio, so that was > a help, I guess. ;) > > Linda, I'm not familiar with the terminology on that consanguinity. Can > you help me understand that? > > Thanks for your help, Ladies! I do learn so much from this group. > Joanne > > >

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Rosario Lagoa - Manuel Luis 1883 - Margin translation help

2016-09-14 Thread Margaret Vicente
Joanne, It says: Legitimized as a matrimonial consequence (unable to make sense of the middle).. at November 26 1685 On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 10:24 PM, Joanne Mercier wrote: > >

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Making Sense of Dates

2016-09-13 Thread Margaret Vicente
Kyle, Richard, If I may, ultimo is not referring to the month. It is referring to the year. Therefore he was born in 1889. Were it to say "corrente" (current) then it would be 1890. On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 9:43 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel < rickredle...@gmail.com> wrote: > *He was

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation help - Mathias Calvo 1731 Ajuda de Bretanha

2016-09-10 Thread Margaret Vicente
Hi Joanne, Not certain if you have your answers. Here's my take: Mathias (Matias) son of Antonio Alvres (Alvares) Calvo and Victoria (Vitoria) de Aquiar. Bron on the 21st day of the month of December of 1738 and baptised in this Parish of his parents where they are naturally from on the 26th

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Hard to read marriage record!

2016-09-08 Thread Margaret Vicente
Hi Jeremy, Date is correct. Antonio Machado Cardoso son of Joao Cardoso, and of his wife Maria das Candeyas (Candeias) natural of this Matrix church and parishioner of S. Lazaro's Parish Church of this jurisdiction where he met the Lent precepts, near and past.and Barbara Josefa daughter of

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Age of child?

2016-09-07 Thread Margaret Vicente
Hi, Not for Joaquina. It reads: Maria f.a ( filha) daughter On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 12:16 AM Christian Day wrote: > Maria the baby is the older sister of my great grandmother Ludwina. > > > On Wednesday, September 7, 2016 at 11:12:22 PM UTC-5, Christian Day wrote: >>

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Santa Madre Church

2016-09-06 Thread Margaret Vicente
There isn't one. All records will state that in reference to the church as a whole to infer the authority of the record. Think Rome, The Vatican where all church laws are held. On Tue, Sep 6, 2016 at 10:46 PM 'j Bc' via Azores Genealogy < azores@googlegroups.com> wrote: > Hello! Where are all of

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] My Pai Incognito ancestor suddenly has a father?

2016-09-06 Thread Margaret Vicente
Christian, I may have the answer (s) you're looking after. After studying the marriage record of Manuel and his birth record, I realised the wording used was specific. Manuel's baptism the key word is "*Esposados*". This means they were *engaged to be married*. As a result he is not a

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with Family Tree

2016-09-06 Thread Margaret Vicente
Hello and welcome! For my personal research I have often referred to your site for help with positive and correct results. It is a great resource and I take this opportunity to say, thank you! Margaret On Mon, Sep 5, 2016 at 6:03 PM João Luís Tavares Silva wrote: > Dear

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] My Pai Incognito ancestor suddenly has a father?

2016-09-06 Thread Margaret Vicente
Christian, I should have placed a question mark beside the place named (Cam.o) Camacho? I'm not certain this is the right place. Perhaps someone from Graciosa can correct it. On Tue, Sep 6, 2016 at 10:51 AM, Margaret Vicente <margaretvice...@gmail.com > wrote: > Christian, > &

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] My Pai Incognito ancestor suddenly has a father?

2016-09-06 Thread Margaret Vicente
Christian, I'll gladly help but I'm not clear on what you're looking for. Based on the emails content it is not clear to me who you are trying to trace. In any case I found Manuel's birth record which matches the marriage record link you posted. And, it tells all about Antonio Machado. To

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help reading margin notes

2016-09-05 Thread Margaret Vicente
Hello Kyle, I have this family. The first entry is certification of his marriage and the 2nd is certification of his death. No. 1 - Casou com Emilia de Jesus Carreiro, na igreja de Santa Clara, freguesia de Sao Jose deste concelho, no dia 22 de Outubro de 1957. Assento numero 481, daquele mes.

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Pastorinho

2016-09-05 Thread Margaret Vicente
arken some of the lettering. About all I can make out > is "Pastor." :-D > > Cheri Mello > Listowner, Azores-Gen > Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das > Tainhas, Achada > > On Sun, Sep 4, 2016 at 6:14 PM, Margaret Vicente < > ma

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Pastorinho

2016-09-04 Thread Margaret Vicente
Hi Christian, You are welcome. Found the birth record. It is *Pastor*, bottom right. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/GRA-SC-GUADALUPE-B-1809-1820/GRA-SC-GUADALUPE-B-1809-1820_item1/P22.html Also found his marriage record, bottom left.

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Pastorinho

2016-09-04 Thread Margaret Vicente
Christian, If I may; Pastor is the name, Pastorinho is the diminuitive of Pastor. It can be used interchangeably. To be certain which might be the original name, you will have to look up his birth record. Pastor as first name is not indicative of the office of herding sheep. And it definitely

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH BAPTISM TRANSLATION

2016-09-04 Thread Margaret Vicente
Carmen, it is a girl, you got it Francisc*A* *Baptism date: 07-Oct-1855* *Parents: * Antonio Jacintho (Jacinto) and Ana deJesus. *Maternal GP: *the name is Francisco and Francisca (with an "I") Margaret On Sun, Sep 4, 2016 at 1:23 PM, 'carmen furtado' via Azores Genealogy <

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Madelena (?) Rosa, B 1688 Sao Mateus, need help with Obito info

2016-09-03 Thread Margaret Vicente
Mary, the birth record year 1688 clearly states her name Magdalena. Please observe the left margin and you will see it spelt out. This is a record of primary evidence. The information on the other site is secondary information prone to transcribing errors. Magda is the short form and not to be

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation help - Casamentos -- Matias de Medeiros & Maria Francesca 1770

2016-09-03 Thread Margaret Vicente
Joanne, in this case the "Dom" you are reading is a honorary title for the Bishop, who exempted the couple for the 6th degree of consanguinity, allowing them to marry. Antonio Calvo could be picking it up from one of the grandparents, you may find continuity as you go back further on this line.

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Madelena (?) Rosa, B 1688 Sao Mateus, need help with Obito info

2016-09-02 Thread Margaret Vicente
Sorry Mary for incorrectly addressing previous emails to Linda. Here's the marriage link also, bottom, flowing onto the next page. Date: 07-Jun-1818 Groom: Antonio da Costa Soares. Bride: Magdalena Garcia

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Madelena (?) Rosa, B 1688 Sao Mateus, need help with Obito info

2016-09-02 Thread Margaret Vicente
Linda, here's Magdalena's (Madalena) birth record. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-MD-SAOMATEUS-B-1673-1703/PIC-MD-SAOMATEUS-B-1673-1703_item1/P25.html On Fri, Sep 2, 2016 at 8:12 PM, Mary Pimentel Wheeler wrote: > Thank you for the verification

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Madelena (?) Rosa, B 1688 Sao Mateus, need help with Obito info

2016-09-02 Thread Margaret Vicente
Linda, you're welcome. It is on the 3rd line to the right where it reads: "Em os dezasseis (desasseis) de Jan.ro (Janeiro) de 4th line: mil sete cents sessenta e cinco (1765) On Fri, Sep 2, 2016 at 8:12 PM, Mary Pimentel Wheeler wrote: > Thank you for the verification on

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Madelena (?) Rosa, B 1688 Sao Mateus, need help with Obito info

2016-09-02 Thread Margaret Vicente
Linda, you have it all right. Obit date Jan 16th 1765. No age given. She had a will of which the executor was her husband. On Fri, Sep 2, 2016 at 7:32 PM, Cheri Mello wrote: > Upper left, bottom right...which one? > > Cheri Mello > Listowner, Azores-Gen > Researching:

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] SECEIRO from Azores?

2016-08-30 Thread Margaret Vicente
Marjorie, your last email (DASILVIRA) da Silveira Anglicised to Seceiro is very possible. If you had a better idea as to approximate date of arrival in the USA I was going to suggest for you to search through the CCA passports for the Faial and Terceira islands. On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 8:56

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Domingos de Braga & Anna de Mello

2016-08-30 Thread Margaret Vicente
Both are from Santa Maria. The bride from Assumcao and the groom from Purificacao. The groom cleared of his Lent obligation in S. Miguel, College of Jesus. On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 12:09 PM Paul wrote: > The following record is for my other 8X g grandparents Domingos de

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] SECEIRO from Azores?

2016-08-30 Thread Margaret Vicente
Hi, the surname Seceiro does exist. Do you have a time frame of their arrival in the USA? On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 12:26 PM Mary Bordi wrote: > Could this be a misspelling of Sequeira? Mine were listed as Secare on one > census. > > They were from Sao Jorge. > > Mary > > >

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Manadas Sao Jorge 1854 Baptism

2016-08-30 Thread Margaret Vicente
Bill, transcribing as I see it. viuvo, "q.u mayu" dis lhe lancado neste termo ser sua filha. I too am having trouble with the shortform, so I'm reading it like this. ...viuvo, qual mae diz-lhe lançado neste termo ser sua filha ..widower, named by the mother on this record, for she is his

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Father's birth location in Lisbon

2016-08-27 Thread Margaret Vicente
Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das > Tainhas, Achada > > On Sat, Aug 27, 2016 at 5:06 PM, Margaret Vicente < > margaretvice...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Rosemari and Cheri. >> >> There used to be the parish of Santos as well but

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Father's birth location in Lisbon

2016-08-27 Thread Margaret Vicente
Lenten >> obligations there or in Sao Miguel Arcanjo in Vila Franca. I can't figure >> out which. I kinda think SMA. Then he did his 1835 Lenten ones in Povoacao? >> Thanks! Cheri >> >> Cheri Mello >> Listowner, Azores-Gen >> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Father's birth location in Lisbon

2016-08-27 Thread Margaret Vicente
Rosemari and Cheri. There used to be the parish of Santos as well but in 2012 it was separated and absorbed by the parish of Estrela. The bairro/neighbourhood of Santos i.e. where the church was built is still there but no longer considered of "freguesia". Hope this helps clarify. Margaret

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