Re: BBDB beginners guide?

2011-04-22 Thread Bernd Wachter
Brett Presnell writes: > Leo writes: > >> On 2011-04-06 15:22 +0800, Didier Verna wrote: >>> Not everybody agrees with this necessarily. I'm using BBDB much more >>> often on my computers than anywhere else and I'm happy to update them >>> manually from time to time on other devices. >> >> Sur

Re: BBDB beginners guide?

2011-04-06 Thread Sean Sieger
Leo writes: Nowadays keeping contacts in Emacs is secondary to keeping it in one's mobile phone. I disagree. -- Xperia(TM) PLAY It's a major breakthrough. An authentic gaming smartphone on the nation's most rel

Re: BBDB beginners guide?

2011-04-06 Thread Ted Zlatanov
On Wed, 06 Apr 2011 09:22:49 +0200 Reiner Steib wrote: RS> On Mon, Apr 04 2011, Ted Zlatanov wrote: >> (unless (featurep 'bbdb3) ; or whatever >> (defalias 'bbdb-search-organization 'bbdb-company) >> (defalias 'bbdb-search-name 'bbdb-name)) RS> Please don't do it this way! Gnus users have bee

Re: BBDB beginners guide?

2011-04-06 Thread Brett Presnell
Leo writes: > On 2011-04-06 15:22 +0800, Didier Verna wrote: >> Not everybody agrees with this necessarily. I'm using BBDB much more >> often on my computers than anywhere else and I'm happy to update them >> manually from time to time on other devices. > > Sure. But these users can still use B

Re: BBDB beginners guide?

2011-04-06 Thread Leo
On 2011-04-06 15:22 +0800, Didier Verna wrote: > Not everybody agrees with this necessarily. I'm using BBDB much more > often on my computers than anywhere else and I'm happy to update them > manually from time to time on other devices. Sure. But these users can still use BBDB the way they inten

Re: BBDB beginners guide?

2011-04-06 Thread Reiner Steib
On Mon, Apr 04 2011, Ted Zlatanov wrote: > (unless (featurep 'bbdb3) ; or whatever > (defalias 'bbdb-search-organization 'bbdb-company) > (defalias 'bbdb-search-name 'bbdb-name)) Please don't do it this way! Gnus users have been bitten by bugs caused by such aliasing (of `replace-regexp-in-s

Re: BBDB beginners guide?

2011-04-06 Thread Didier Verna
Leo wrote: > Basically I want BBDB to have a standard external format that many > other programs can use. Nowadays keeping contacts in Emacs is > secondary to keeping it in one's mobile phone. Not everybody agrees with this necessarily. I'm using BBDB much more often on my computers than anywh

Re: BBDB beginners guide?

2011-04-05 Thread Leo
On 2011-04-05 21:50 +0800, Roland Winkler wrote: > What do you have in mind? > > I know rather little about vcard beyond that it exists. Over the > years, I have received maybe two or three emails that had a vcard > replacing the signature file. It appears kind of useful to have the > signature fil

Re: BBDB beginners guide?

2011-04-05 Thread Didier Verna
"Roland Winkler" wrote: > However, while I do not know the details of such formats, I expect > that nonetheless it should not be too difficult to develop some code > to import / export bbdb records from / into these formats. I believe I > even once saw some code that allowed the old bbdb to inter

Re: BBDB beginners guide?

2011-04-05 Thread Roland Winkler
On Tue Apr 5 2011 Leo wrote: > This is completely a short in the dark. > > Perhaps BBDB can support (import/export, or even allow storing entries > in it directly) 100% one external format (probably vcard or its XML > derivative). A few years ago when I tried to write an exporter to vcard > I have

Re: BBDB beginners guide?

2011-04-04 Thread Matt Lundin
Roland Winkler writes: > On Mon Apr 4 2011 Leo wrote: >> I personally think it would be far more productive to worry about >> backward compatibility later on. For example, we could add a new >> org-bbdb3 module to org mode and leave the old as it is. > > While I do not know any details of how BBD

Re: BBDB beginners guide?

2011-04-04 Thread Ted Zlatanov
On Mon, 04 Apr 2011 08:52:27 -0400 Matt Lundin wrote: ML> I do think it can be productive right now, while development is moving ML> quickly, to ask whether some of the changes, such as reversing the ML> parameters of bbdb-split, are necessary, since they are easier to fix ML> now than they will

Re: BBDB beginners guide?

2011-04-04 Thread Roland Winkler
On Mon Apr 4 2011 Leo wrote: > I personally think it would be far more productive to worry about > backward compatibility later on. For example, we could add a new > org-bbdb3 module to org mode and leave the old as it is. While I do not know any details of how BBDB is hooked into / interfacing or

Re: BBDB beginners guide?

2011-04-04 Thread Matt Lundin
Leo writes: > On 2011-04-04 10:31 +0800, Matt Lundin wrote: >>> When my updates of BBDB were in a pre-alpha stage and I did not yet >>> have a detailed roadmap where they would take me, I thought that >>> there was really not much of a point trying to continuously (at each >>> intermediate stage)

Re: BBDB beginners guide?

2011-04-03 Thread Leo
On 2011-04-04 10:31 +0800, Matt Lundin wrote: >> When my updates of BBDB were in a pre-alpha stage and I did not yet >> have a detailed roadmap where they would take me, I thought that >> there was really not much of a point trying to continuously (at each >> intermediate stage) preserve backward c

Re: BBDB beginners guide?

2011-04-03 Thread Matt Lundin
"Roland Winkler" writes: > > When my updates of BBDB were in a pre-alpha stage and I did not yet > have a detailed roadmap where they would take me, I thought that > there was really not much of a point trying to continuously (at each > intermediate stage) preserve backward compatibility when it w

Re: BBDB beginners guide?

2010-11-04 Thread Johnny
Uwe Brauer writes: >>> Regarding Re: BBDB beginners guide?; Johnny adds: > Here is my setting: (still using 2.35 with Robert Fenks > extensions) That's a quite extensive example, thanks for this. I will have to take some time and play around with the settings and options

Re: BBDB beginners guide?

2010-11-04 Thread Johnny
Bruno Tavernier writes: >> Regardless of method, BBDB keeps asking me to add mails! How can I make >> it stop doing that? > > Here is what I use > | ; Stop showing when updates occur > | (setq bbdb-message-pop-up nil) Thanks Bruno, this solves the query popping up! Regarding fine tuning of the

Re: BBDB beginners guide?

2010-11-04 Thread Johnny
"Roland Winkler" writes: Thanks for your reply and effort put in to developing BBDB! Sorry for the delay in replying, I was tied up with work recently, without Gnu/Linux access. Thanks to the help from here, I have now found the solution solved this by adding the following line to emacs init.el:

Re: BBDB beginners guide?

2010-11-03 Thread Uwe Brauer
>> Regarding Re: BBDB beginners guide?; "Roland Winkler" adds: > I was just looking at these things once more, and I think that > Johnny's original request provides a good example for why I did > these changes. Johnny asked about the variable bbdb-add-mail

Re: BBDB beginners guide?

2010-11-03 Thread Uwe Brauer
>> Regarding Re: BBDB beginners guide?; "Roland Winkler" adds: > I believe that these things cannot be seen independently. I believe > that a main reason why BBDB did not evolve anymore for quite some > time was related to the fact that its code had reached

Re: BBDB beginners guide?

2010-11-02 Thread Roland Winkler
On Sat Oct 30 2010 Uwe Brauer wrote: >> and use more meaningful names. > > This, in my opinion, is a very bad idea. > Taste is subjective and once names are chosen they become a > convention. To break backward compatibility deliberately has > no benefit I can think off. I was just looking a

Re: BBDB beginners guide?

2010-11-02 Thread Roland Winkler
Hi Uwe I am sorry for the delayed reply. > First of all I did not mean to attack you, sorry if I have > caused that impression. No problem, any feedback is appreciated! >> From bbdb home page it appears the code did not evolve >> for a long time (Jan 2007). > > That is correct. (Same w

Re: BBDB beginners guide?

2010-11-02 Thread Roland Winkler
On Fri Oct 29 2010 Johnny wrote: > I recently discovered Gnus and BBDB with that; found the most recent > development by Roland on Savannah which I downloaded and installed > successfully. Now, I am trying to figure out different settings and > configurations how to use BBDB effectively; are there

Re: BBDB beginners guide?

2010-10-30 Thread Uwe Brauer
>> Regarding Re: BBDB beginners guide?; Bruno Tavernier >> adds: Hi Bruno, > CC: To Roland > Hello Uwe, First of all I did not mean to attack you, sorry if I have caused that impression. > From bbdb home page it appears the code did not evolve > for a lon

Re: BBDB beginners guide?

2010-10-30 Thread Bruno Tavernier
CC: To Roland Hello Uwe, Uwe Brauer writes: > > Beg your pardon? I am still using 2.35 and hadn't the time > to give 3.x a try. The names of the variables are changed, > but why. I consider this as a *terrible* design > decision. Why loose the compatibility. >From bbdb home page it appears the

Re: BBDB beginners guide?

2010-10-30 Thread Uwe Brauer
>> Regarding Re: BBDB beginners guide?; Johnny adds: > Ok, I have realised that the BBDB 2.35 documentation works ok and using > 'C-h a', 'C-h v' goes a long way. However, I am trying to make BBDB stop > asking me to add mail addresses. I found: &

Re: BBDB beginners guide?

2010-10-30 Thread Uwe Brauer
>> Regarding Re: BBDB beginners guide?; Bruno Tavernier >> adds: > Hey Johnny, > First of all, some variables name have changed between > the 2.x and 3.x versions. Beg your pardon? I am still using 2.35 and hadn't the time to give 3.x a try. The names of

Re: BBDB beginners guide?

2010-10-29 Thread Bruno Tavernier
Hey Johnny, First of all, some variables name have changed between the 2.x and 3.x versions. Until a new info file is made, you'll have to look by yourself. After loading bbdb , | describe-variable -> bbdb ` The name are usually explicit. Note you could probably use the customize interfa

Re: BBDB beginners guide?

2010-10-29 Thread Johnny
Ok, I have realised that the BBDB 2.35 documentation works ok and using 'C-h a', 'C-h v' goes a long way. However, I am trying to make BBDB stop asking me to add mail addresses. I found: bbdb-add-address(es) in the online documentation and set this to nil or 'never. I also found: bbdb-add-mails