Re: startup problems

2000-09-02 Thread Sam Steingold
I was away on vacation, this is why I took a long time to answer. * In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] * On the subject of "Re: startup problems" * Sent on Wed, 23 Aug 2000 19:52:49 +0100 (IST) * Honorable Ronan Waide [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: political nonsense like this ha

vm startup problems

2000-08-29 Thread Stephan Engelke
Hi everyone, After using BBDB 2.00.06 for quite a while, I just retrieved and installed the current CVS version of BBDB. Except for an problem with an undefined node in the info file the installation went fine. I am using Xemacs 2.1.11 on a Solaris 7 box. I have not changed my configuration

Re: vm startup problems

2000-08-29 Thread Jochen Küpper
On Tue, 29 Aug 2000, Stephan Engelke wrote: After using BBDB 2.00.06 for quite a while, I just retrieved and installed the current CVS version of BBDB. Except for an problem with an undefined node in the info file the installation went fine. I am using Xemacs 2.1.11 on a Solaris 7 box.

Re: vm startup problems

2000-08-29 Thread Jochen Küpper
On Tue, 29 Aug 2000, Ronan Waide wrote: vm-uninteresting-senders set to anything. Try setting it to "" and see if that fixes the problem. Jochen, bbdb/vm-get-from should check that this variable is a string before it tries to use it. Guess you meant vm-summary-uninteresting-senders. This has

Re: vm startup problems

2000-08-29 Thread Jochen Küpper
On Tue, 29 Aug 2000, Ronan Waide wrote: Try running vm without BBDB, and do M-x vm-fix-my-summary!!! and then restart VM. With XEmacs you should actually use the following, I guess: ;; Robert Fenk's version ;; fixes the "vm forgets the fixed summary again" problem. (defun

Re: vm startup problems

2000-08-29 Thread Jochen Küpper
On Tue, 29 Aug 2000, Ronan Waide wrote: vm-uninteresting-senders set to anything. Try setting it to "" and see if that fixes the problem. Jochen, bbdb/vm-get-from should check that this variable is a string before it tries to use it. Hmm, now that I see your change, I understand what

Re: startup problems

2000-08-24 Thread Kai Großjohann
On Thu, 24 Aug 2000, Jochen Kuepper wrote: (bbdb-initialize 'gnus 'message 'rmail 'sc 'vm 'w3) (bbdb-insinuate-w3) (bbdb-insinuate-gnus) If I understand correctly, bbdb-initialize means that you don't need the bbdb-insinuate stuff anymore. kai -- I like BOTH kinds of music.

Re: startup problems

2000-08-23 Thread Sam Steingold
* In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] * On the subject of "Re: startup problems" * Sent on Wed, 23 Aug 2000 05:27:05 +0100 (IST) * Honorable Waider [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: doesn't affect GNUmacs one way or another, and if it fixes the problem ... to change it to break GNUmacs, since t

Re: startup problems

2000-08-23 Thread Jochen Küpper
On 23 Aug 2000, Sam Steingold wrote: I think those who have the problems now did not delete the old obsolete auto-autoloads. Yes, I _did_ remove it. Jochen -- http://www.Jochen-Kuepper.de Einigkeit und Recht und Freiheit Libert`e, `Egalit`e, Fraternit`e Sex, drugs and

Re: startup problems

2000-08-23 Thread Jamie Zawinski
Sam Steingold wrote: if you use it, you should probably be aware that the program is called Emacs, not the way you call it. Using "Emacs" to mean "GNU Emacs as distributed by the FSF", and "emacs" to mean "an implementation of emacs, such as Emacs of XEmacs" is clear enough, IMO. RMS, who

Re: startup problems

2000-08-23 Thread Ronan Waide
On August 23, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Emacs, wants his users to call his program "Emacs", and I see no reason not to comply with such a simple request. [-] All extremists should be taken out and shot. Sam, political nonsense like this has no place on the list. Nor has your generally

Re: startup problems

2000-08-23 Thread Ronan Waide
On August 22, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Ah, then perhaps we're getting closer to the problem. All that's in my bbdb-autoloads as the makefile generates it is ;;; DO NOT MODIFY THIS FILE (if (featurep 'bbdb-autoloads) (error "Already loaded")) ^L (provide 'bbdb-autoloads) Um. That's

Re: startup problems

2000-08-23 Thread Michael Harnois
On 23 Aug 2000 13:36:31 -0400, Sam Steingold [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I think those who have the problems now did not delete the old obsolete auto-autoloads. That would not be correct. -- Michael D. Harnois, Redeemer Lutheran Church, Washburn, IA [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: startup problems

2000-08-23 Thread Michael Harnois
On 23 Aug 2000 18:54:05 -0500, Michael Harnois [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Can you do a make reallyclean and rebuild it from scratch? Yup. Same result. Something is going wrong with your syntax in the makefile, but I don't grok this stuff enough to know what. I can run the section

Re: startup problems

2000-08-23 Thread ShengHuo ZHU
Jochen Kuepper [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I am having trouble upgrading to the latest cvs version of bbdb. The last version that works for me is 2704. With the latest (cvs of today) I get an error upon executing (require 'bbdb) (bbdb-initialize) in an -vanilla XEmacs-21.1 "20

Re: startup problems

2000-08-22 Thread Ronan Waide
On August 22, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Perhaps I'm missing something, but I updated bbdb yesterday and that was when everything broke for me. As far as I can tell the "unnecessary change" that broke everything was that bbdb used to have an auto-autoloads.el and now it doesn't. Aha. So

startup problems again

2000-08-22 Thread Jochen Kuepper
Hmm, Roberts suggestion of putting (unload-feature `bbdb-autoloads t) before the (require `bbdb) does work if I use the new bbdb version from it´s source dir and still have the old one in the XEmacs package tree. If I remove the old package and install the latest cvs-version, bbdb-insinuate

Re: startup problems

2000-08-22 Thread Michael Harnois
On Tue, 22 Aug 2000 17:22:53 +0100 (IST), Ronan Waide [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Hmm. okay, but that's close enought to how the current bbdb-autoloads is generated: Ah, then perhaps we're getting closer to the problem. All that's in my bbdb-autoloads as the makefile generates it is ;;;

Re: startup problems

2000-08-22 Thread Waider
the current setup works fine with Emacs, so please don't break it. also, I don't think it is a good idea to rename the autoloads file (again). Sure, but it doesn't work with XEmacs. Renaming the autoloads file doesn't affect GNUmacs one way or another, and if it fixes the problem for XEmacs