At 09:01 AM 7/23/2003 -0700, you wrote:
> >PS Have u checked out
www.union.org ? what
is that all about ??
>
> Sorry, it eludes me. Can someone else help?
-Allan
I noticed something similar when Michael Fields let their domain
registration lapse. Someone else can then grab the URL registration.
T
Greg,
We know you feel frustrated because your message is not being
heard.
But that is no reason to call another person names nor to threaten a
lawsuit.
Let's all please maintain a level of civility that encourages the frank
exchange of ideas and facts.
David Robison
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Graeme, can you elaborate?
Now, as I have said,i think people
are mistaking subtle energies and
forces for life forces, i.e. Life Forces, the bio in
"biodynamics".
They aren't the same thing and I reckon you and the other radio guys
know that, or ought to if you don't.
Da
Merla--
What a task! Now you see why farmers have developed stirring machines.
Some comments:
I went to my BC cache and it was
teeming with creatures--very young earthworms and rolly-polly
bugs,
Probably not a good way to store. The critters may be disrupting things.
Better to store in an earthenw
Off topic: David Quammen is one of my favorite nature
writers. I was glad to see this article posted, on the dismal topic of
how we are destroying the natural world.
http://www.well.com/user/davidu/weeds.html
David Robison
At 12:00 PM 3/9/2003 -0500, Christy wrote:
So a really basic question (s)
-
The etheric body of a plant is its own, along with the physical body, but
it
has no astral body (otherwise it would have mobility and what else?
Organs. Little bits of the outside captured inside the physical body.
Like
At 12:00 PM 3/8/2003 -0500, you wrote:
I'm serious: get out the scanner
and send up a page or two of bd stuff you find of interest or would like
to discuss. Copyright law offers a fair amount of leniency for
educational use of printed materials, so you don't have an
excuse.
Drown us in content and
At 12:00 PM 2/25/2003 -0500, flylo wrote:
Subject: Mildred Cowger
I was looking thru SSE yearbook at tomatoes and ran across
"Mildred Cowger's Belgium" and mentions she was a Master
Biodynamic Gardener.
running Google, I can find some Belgium Cherry tomatoes
developed by the late M Cowger, as
Is the server down? I haven't received any emails from you
lately.
Off topic: here is a link on depleted uranium from Yes! magazine
http://www.futurenet.org/25environmentandhealth/rokke.htm
David Robison
At 12:02 PM 2/13/2003 -0500, SStorch wrote:
This fall we will make every effort
to make the Hugo
Erbe clay preparation.
Can you tell us more? What about his other preps? We are still waiting
for the book to come on Erbe.
David Robison
At 12:04 PM 2/12/2003 -0500, roger wrote:
When I first talked about BD with a
good friend of mine, he looked at me with the now-familiar 'steer caught
in the headlights' look, laughed and said "You can't be serious,
falling for something like that. Cow shit buried in a cow horn after
dancing backw
At 12:04 PM 2/12/2003 -0500, flylo wrote:
We have a mushroom plant nearby
that practically gives away it's
spent mushroom compost to gardeners
I had a paper on mushroom compost from the Vancouver, BC group, can look
for it there's interest. The gist was that it's "dead" humus,
having been subject
Theres another new posting for more advanced practioners
---
"Planetary Processes in the Preparations" based on
Lievegoed
from
www.oregonbd.org
select the "Community Page", then the article
David Robison
In response to the lot, 'Introduction to Biodynamics' is
posted at
www.oregonbd.org
Select the "Introductory Class" from the menu to left.
Best to go thru the menu so you have all the frames.
There are download buttons now at the ends of each chapter. These deliver
a .doc file so you don't have to
It's an option off
http://oregonbd.org/class
Be careful when you download it. I suggest you use Microsoft Internet
Explorer even if normally you use another browser (such as Netscape, like
I do) because MIE will keep the images in their right places after you
save the files, and there are a lot o
At 12:00 PM 2/7/2003 -0500, roger wrote:
'Introduction to Biodynamics',
Class of 2001. In my opinion this is the finest and easiest to read and
understand book about BD in existence today. That it has not been
published is a real shame because it means it's only available to people
with an interne
At 12:00 PM 2/7/2003 -0500, Allan wrote:
Someone remind me: where does
'water glass,' or whatever it was, fit into this recipe? (Instead of
sand?? instead of equisetum) AND, is 'water glass' a
liquid?
Sodium silicate Na2SiO3. It's a reasonably soluble silicon compound,
available as aqueous solutio
Does anyone know if Alan Kapuler is still running Peace Seeds,
and if he or the company has email or a web
address?
I think you want
http://www.abundantlifeseed.org/index.htm
Note they have some BD seeds!
David Robison
Stellar Processes
1033 SW Yamhill Suite 405
Portland, O
I guess biodiesel is off topic. For those interested, there is a pretty
active list group at "Alternative Energy List"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
also check
http://www.homepower.com/
The oil isn't burned directly as fuel, but goes thru a process of
esterification that involves treatment with harsh chemic
At 12:04 PM 2/4/2003 -0500, Merla wrote:
This is my year for my own BC &
500 AND for 24 hr aerobic compost tea.
Exactly in what proportion do you combine them?
Allan's post answered your questions very well. Compost tea has been used
by BD farmers for a long time and no one bothered to get all t
At 12:03 PM 2/3/2003 -0500, Jane wrote:
I
just found out tonight when our smoke alarm kept beeping after
changing
the battery & then taking it down from the ceiling, that it contains
a small
part with the old radioactive symbol on it and warnings about it
containing
radioactive material, which if
Roger, thanks for bringing up an interesting
thread.
At 12:02 PM 1/31/2003 -0500, Roger wrote:
1. Did Steiner really intend
BD502-507 to be used solely in compost manufacture?
That's how he introduced it in the lectures, Pfieffer and others used it
for seed baths etc.
2. Did he identify
equisetum
I haven't noticed a lot of interest in the audio files that are posted at
www.ibiblio.org/biodynamics
Case in point: I made a call for other people's tapes and have received
to replies.
Let me know, ok? We'll count lurkers in this poll
also.
Allan, a couple of points.
1) I'm surprised that you a
Steve--
What are you trying to do? What is the desired influence? What is your
source?
Copper sulfate is a potent algaecide and I assume would have injurious
effects on other microbes. Obviously it affects fungi, presumably even
the beneficial ones. I'm not keen about using it as a spray -- I use
For those interested in objective science reporting
see
http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/full/296/5573/1694?ijkey=Fh/EYrZtSiFKc&keytype=ref&siteid=sci
European researchers examined several ag systems including BD.
"Organic" and BD are pretty similar in yield, lower than
conventional ag, but
A lot of good questions!
flylo wrote:
Nettles! I was lamenting my nettles
a few years ago, and now I'm
not sure, but I think I should be happy to see them appear. I saw a
photo on the
www.oregonbd.org
site of a wheelbarrow full of nettles
being turned with a shovel before sending off to the co
At 12:04 PM 12/16/2002 -0500, Patti
wrote:
My brain and butt had both caved in by the time we reached the
glossary in the back. Must return there soon as likely many of the
puzzlers will be put into placeMaybe the Oregon folks could have made
that part of the course available in the beginnin
PS
If there are any webdesigners on the list who'd like to help get all the
BD-related files I have that should be linked to
www.gardeningforthefuture.com,
please contact me off-line at [EMAIL PROTECTED] - AB
What do you need help-wise? I will be off on a yoga retreat for a few
weeks, but usually
The e-group has posted a book describing Willard water. It's
mostly anecdotal information of folks' experiences. Reports of good
results to heal burns, restore animal health,etc. What makes me think of
501 is one story of inducing premature fruiting in corn plants. They
can't say exactly what it i
Good question. I've been following various discussions on
the subject on an "alternate health" e-group. It is a
proprietary catalyst type water, derived by a geologist originally. Seems
to have silicate in it, perhaps in a potenized form like 501. See
http://www.dr-willardswater.com/whatis.html
A
At 12:05 PM 11/15/2002 -0500, Allen wrote:
What we want, Dave, is to get many,
many people interested in biodynamically grown food because of it's
quality and it's superior taste and the restorative nature of this sort
of agriculture. What we want to do is alert people to HOW LITTLE federal
organi
At 12:03 PM 11/13/2002 -0500, Allen wrote:
It would be great if others have
similar programs and we could get some synergy going with our
materials.
Also, as I'm sure most already know, there is a "market" for
web-based education in this country and around the world. If we had a
short web-based ed
This off-topic thread is a bummer.
I just saw Michael Moore's "Bowling for Columbine", a
black-humor documentary asking why Americans are so violent. You have to
laugh to keep from crying. Moore's point is that our culture is unique in
emphasizing fear. No wonder we go off the deep end.
But the r
At 12:04 PM 10/13/2002 -0400, Allen wrote:
There's a good photo display of
hyemale at
http://members.eunet.at/m.matus/e_berkley.html
Gee, Allen. No wonder you had trouble identifying the plants. I did
recognize a couple of the homo sapiens but found it rather difficult to
focus on plant characteri
At 12:04 PM 10/13/2002 -0400, Allen wrote:
I remain pretty confused about
identifying the varities of equisetum. As far as I can determing, both
Hymale and Arvense appear in BOTH forms, the bush 'pine tree' and the
leaveless 'snake grass' or 'joint-grass.' Chadwick says that arvense is
the only eq
At 12:03 PM 10/11/2002 -0400, Sharon wrote:
Equisetium arvense is the
recommended one for biodynamics, we had the other
hymale growing in our garden and did an experiment, with fermenting it.
The
hymale did not have the strong potent smell as does the arvense, although
it
is similar. it seems wor
At 12:03 PM 10/10/2002 -0400, Daniel wrote:
Could some one please list or point
me in the direction of instructions on
making equisetum tea. My understanding is that there are two types
of
equisetum, can you use either?
There are many species -- E. arvense or field horsetail is the one
indicated.
At 12:03 PM 10/8/2002 -0400, Allan wrote:
>>Elaine revealed the
> >results of testing some BD preps earlier in the year. I'll leave
it
> >to attendees who actually had a chance to attend the
presentation to
> >fill in the details.
OK, Allan, we are all waiting
David Robi
Forwarded re) prep making
Subject: Re: Forward: Questions on
preps
From: "walivia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
This is all very interesting. Certainly more communication between
prep makers is in order.
We have dehydrated intestine and I believe a mesentery too, in the fall,
and rehydrated and stuffed th
At 12:03 PM 9/28/2002 -0400, Cheryl wrote:
I was interested in your peeling the
mesentary - taking the fat off it. WE have been getting fatter and
fatter mesentarys and were wondering how to deal with it. I was
curious as to why they were so fat - as the ones we used to get in
NZ when I first
New pictures that is, not new preps.
Take a look at the process during recent fall prep making.
Posted at
www.oregonbd.org
Select the BD Community page and then the Prep Making page
David Robison
BDA has mailed the conference brochure but the info hasn't been posted to
the web. Here's some info:
BDA National Conference Our Animals & Their Plight. Kingdom of Nature
or Industrial Production: How do we keep and treat our domestic animals.
November 8-10, 2002. The national biodynamics confere
Any thoughts or
pointers? We have the sunshine and I'm keen to add
value by dehydrating a portion of our produce.
Thanks... Rex
There was a Small Farm Energy Project back in the '70's. Bob Steffen was
part of it. They had some folks using a large air collector, like 10 ft
X20 ft to substitute for
Dave - Have you found an affordable
source for fava as a cover crop? What about mache? thanks,
-Allan
I've grown my own seed for years, easy to do for garden scale
plantings. Obviously you need more for a CSA operation. You might buy a
bulk order for the first year and grow it out. Both set copi
At 12:03 PM 9/19/2002 -0400, Teresa wrote:
Could anyone suggest a cover crop
to shelter this ground and hold it together over the winter? Something to
establish quick, or have I left it too late? Will rye germinate this
late?
I lie rye/vetch because the grass sets a huge amount of root hairs,
addi
At 12:03 PM 9/19/2002 -0400, Rex wrote:
Has any listee built and used the
solar dehydrator developed by Lea?
I'm interested in any feedback on its
performance.
I built the one that was based on a 55 gallon metal drum, encased in
fiberglass. Is that the one you mean? It worked -- sort of. My concl
At 12:04 PM 9/4/2002 -0400, Patti wrote:
>Dave,
>I have tried to access www.oregonbd.com but just get a message "unable
>to locate server". Has this site moved?
Oops. My mistake. It's www.oregonbd.org.
David Robison
At 12:01 PM 8/29/2002 -0400, sharon wrote:
> . last time i tried 504 there wasn't much left in the ground.
>the worms must have et it.
We make 504 in a piece of earthenware pipe. Likewise, we bury the other
preps in an earthenware flower pot. Otherwise, it's difficult to find them
after the s
At 12:00 PM 8/28/2002 -0400, Ron wrote:
>Teresa, or anyone;
>I wondered, in your research if you came across any information on the
>correct proportions of the egg shape - something that one could construct
>something from? Probably the form would be enclosed by a double cube, but
>its the differe
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be a major task. I think it
would be great if someone wants to undertake the task, but it will be a
lot of work.
I have the book too, maybe we could share some of the scanning or
proofing tasks. Anyone else interested in piecing out the work?
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Dave Robison
an see the low
voltage A.C. anomalies.
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sed to live on plants, collecting aphids --
but I am willing to accept that there may be other species.
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get the tea out. As it says above, the adults are beneficials. The same
maggots show up in the compost pile if there is too much wet, sloppy
foodstuff -- I get them if I add a lot of apple pomace without sufficient
aeration/heat. Once again, I don't consider them harmful, they break down
the material and prepare it for digestion in the pile.
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Dave Robison
While we are on the subject ...
A lot of Steiner books are on line, see
http://www.elib.com/Steiner/WhatsNew.php3
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Dave Robison
would guess that one
classifies the "year" according to the month when the prep is
placed/retrieved. Or then again, it could be the sign when the year starts.
like at Easter? Comments, Steve?
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Dave Robison
ld be that strong. But maybe there is a source
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it but it sounds appropriate. Dunno if it addresses your problem.
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Dave Robison
7;s a lot
easier to store the dried stuff.
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I noticed a new compost tea list
http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/compostteas
I see Allan is already signed on.
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Dave Robison
y they are equivalent to cows -- nothing else is --
but similar. At one point, our local zoo was marketing "ZooDoo" and it was
pretty good stuff.
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Dave Robison
track it. So
you need to assume that any purchased hay or straw can be contaminated.
Thus ruling out a lot of stable bedding. I don't know if such ag
commodities are shipped to you. As always, the more you can rely on
self-produced compost materials, the better.
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Dave Robison
t spraying the dandelion prep on
snowpeas, reported in Applied BD, I posted a summary chart in the
www.oregonbd.org
class, chapter 4. One of the rare examples of measured results.
Pam asked
Subject: New 501?
Dave Robison!
Last fall you wrote about making new style 501, mixing in local soil,
with And
t are really not optimized for stirring.
OTOH, you can make your own and expect that it is good enough. We have a
local farmer who made his own forms by casting the belly of his pregnant
partner. Now there's an earthmother approach!
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Dave Robison
involving
fertilizing with horse manure compost that I have not been able to try.
Someone else suggested crab apple blossom essence but didn't explain how it
is applied.
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Dave Robison
an important issue because the scare factor from these cases
resulted in the gov't developing completely unrealistic regulations
regarding compost turning etc.
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Dave Robison
A in the area, tho
I think Paul has demonstrated that you can make a lot better living with a
high-value crop like flowers.
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Dave Robison
tails contact:
Paul Sansone, Here & Now Garden, phone 503 357-5774, FAX 503 357-3858
or email:
[EMAIL PROTECTED].
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I went out hiking with him once, and I would see something, and he
>would shoot it, and develop it, and it would be just exactly what I saw. No
>trick except the focus change, and the rocks would have rock people, undines
>in rivers, it was wild!
==
Dave Robison
Wait! Don't bother. Yahoo has deactivated this account as an anti-spam
measure. I guess this is some sort of a science lesson.
==
Dave Robison
ience project, we are trying to demonstrate how
> fast and how
> far information can travel on the Internet in a six week
> period.
>
> If you receive this e-mail after May 1, 2002, please
> disregard it, since
> the project will be over.
>
> Thank you VERY much for your help!
==
Dave Robison
FYI. BBC no longer posts the lunar calendar. Guess it was too outrageous
for them.
>From: Ceri Thomas - Interactive <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "'Dave Robison'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: RE: [Gardening Feedback] lunar calendar?
>Date: Mon, 15 Apr
ball
jersey' caterpillars).
Tansy ragwort Senecio spp. is the host for cinnabar moth, at least over
here.
not to be confused with common tansy Tanacetum vulgare
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r supplies the preps includes an instruction sheet. I suggest that
you check with the Koepf text
http://www.soilandhealth.org/01aglibrary/010114koepf/bda.html
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shtml
I notice that they are redesigning the site so location may change.
Remember we are eight hours behind their time (seven hours during
daylight savings months).
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,
you would save on registration expense.
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our own BC and weed peppers, if there
is an exception for locally made or non-purchased materials (which I didn't
see in Chapter 22).
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documented by local gardeners. I'm not sure the extent to which farmers use
the chemical, non-organic straw bedding may be affected. One more reason to
make your own compost on-site and avoid brought-in stuff
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Frank van Steensel (M.Ag.Sc., B.Ag/Hort)
> Research Manager of the Research and Development Group of
> the Biodynamic Farming and Gardening ass.
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or anyone else in the area, the Oregon group will have
it's spring meeting May 5 to unearth last fall's preps. See
www.oregonbd.org
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ganic techniques and try the BD ideas slowly in order to
gain an understanding of what's working and why.
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ts pretty smelly when you do that, giving off H2S.
Now we know why.
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with the following in the body
SET BDNOW MAIL DIGEST
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anyone on the BDA board re) their lack of contact
with constituents and no response from Heinz on my offer to help with
reviewing articles. Oh well.
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ather than
broadcasting to the entire list.
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me with it. Details
are on the website.
I took this occasion to re-write the introductory course that is posted
on-line at www.oregonbd.org
It is available to all. Thanks to Glen and Hugh and all the others that
have contributed.
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ession for the bugs when they emerge? I don't think it's a problem
or Elaine's users would have observed it.
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kind I'm thinking of has an adjustable nozzle
on the end, you just set it for a largish droplet size. From what Elaine
said, I don't think there is a problem with the size of microbes, nematodes
are the largest.
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ler drops, you can use a conventional hand
sprayer, like what is used for weed sprays -- of course, you would never
want to use any pesticides in your BD sprayer. I also use a trombone
sprayer to reach up into fruit trees. Either is about $30 at your local
hardware store.
=
At 02:18 PM 1/11/02 -0500, you wrote:
>Re: the horse nettle, I'm looking for a picture/info on Equisetum, as
>opposed to what Dave has correctly sent (the "other" horse nettle is a
>nightshade).
See the intro class at www.oregonbd.org
chapter 4
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ng
5.) it has a black, ugly icon
which you'll see, Don't Open
It!!!
6.) right click on the
file and then choose "delete file" thereby sending it to the
recycle bin
7.) empty recycle bin, now
you're ok
8.) let everyone else in your
address book know too as evidently they got it if you
do
RB
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leaved nightshade;
white horse nettle; bull nettle; oliveleaf nightshade
search at http://www.vth.colostate.edu/poisonous_plants/report/search.cfm
Why would you want them?
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surfaces serve as
inoculation sites for "bad" organisms? What are the problems with
surface-dwelling organisms?
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an makes the point that etheric
forces extend further out of the soil in tropical latitudes.
Better read up on BD first.
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le lab, make sure they give you the Calcium and
>Magnesium base saturation levels. Calcium should be about 68% and
>Magnesium should be about 13.5%.
That example is 5 to 1. My recollection is Albrecht said 7 to 1 is the
ideal. 9 to 1 is high.
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this stuff in a rational way on the BD Intro at
www.oregonbd.org
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