Dear Lloyd,
I agree with you that after 20 years of having input from Alex maybe the
farmer in question was so used to being spoon fed that they could not think
for themselves.
My take on the whole situation is that BD is a great tool for creating s
Dear Lloyd,
I agree with you that after 20 years of having input from Alex maybe the
farmer in question was so used to being spoon fed that they could not think
for themselves.
My take on the whole situation is that BD is a great tool for creating soil
fertility, howeve
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>
>
>>Dear James,
>>
>>How are you doing it?
>>
>>Incidentally, I've been finding out more about Don Croft's "cloudbuster"
>>which is not a c
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To: Biodynamic Food and Farming Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Saturday, June 28, 2003 8:27 AM
Subject: Re: Dornachian reactions?
>Dear James,
>
>How are you doing it?
>
>Incidentally, I've been finding out more about Don
Dear James,
How are you doing it?
Incidentally, I've been finding out more about Don Croft's "cloudbuster"
which is not a cloudbuster but an atmospheric reorganizer. Yes, it not only
is safe to set up and leave working at all times, it is highly desirable.
God, have we been getting the rain. All
more discomfort
regards,
Peter.
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Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 8:24 PM
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> A lot of European bdgrowers u
Thanks Graeme,
I think Elliot and I are around the same age, but of course both of us are
much jnior to Helen and Scott Nearing, John and Helen Philbrick, etc.
Hugh
>...
>Otherwise I am in agreement with your other comments on
>certification. Spot on as we convicts say!
>--
>Graeme Gerrard
>[E
Dear List,
Of course, writers on this list sometimes disparrage others either
on this list or off it. A couple cases in point are:
>> People are using the real preps, (as though homeopathic and
radionically prepared preps are not real)
Well I meant real in the sense of substantial living
Dear List,
Of course, writers on this list sometimes disparrage others either
on this list or off it. A couple cases in point are:
>> People are using the real preps, (as though homeopathic and
radionically prepared preps are not real)
Well I meant real in the sense of substantial living
>Hi Glen,
>I do agree with much that you say here, but you start with saying no
>one is criticising anyone except the organisations but this is not
>true. People are singling out individuals (just re-read recent posts
>in this thread, including your own comments below). It just makes
>the genu
Graeme
> Yes. There you go again Glen. But no matter. Seems to me if these
> groups are so irrelevant, why do they survive -
Are they /we being all we could be???
>
> >This is why quality based certification regardless of production method
is
> >the way of the future.
Twas thingking about thi
Hi Tony,
That is great news, I hope the meeting goes well.
warm regards,
Peter.
>
> Hi Glen Maybe there is a glimmer of change on the horizon. I was
> contacted yesterday by a NZBD assoc member and was asked 'How can the
NZBD
> assoc help people like me who organise workshops an
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Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 8:07 AM
Subject: Lloyd Re: Dornachian reactions?
Hi Graeme> - just a few comments - I also ha
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Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 8:44 AM
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Yes. There you go again Glen. But no matter. Seems to me if these
groups are so irrelevant, why do they survive - I mean, there must be
some people who think they are still doing something useful.
(I think I remember the Marinus la Rooij name from that book BD
Perspectives? I can't remember t
Lloyd,
(On rading this thru - it needs re-organising, but I have to rush out
and do stuff. I hope you can get the main points.)
Yes, his approach is of course better than commercial growers'. What
does his stuff taste like? I wouldn't buy it. My partner and i went
down there to have a look
y, June 26, 2003 8:44 AM
Subject: Re: Dornachian reactions? A glimmer of hope
>
> Glen wrote
>
>
> > Upon reflection I do not hear people knocking the use of traditional
> preps.
> > They are knocking the organisations who seem to be isolating themselves
> from
>
. People are singling out individuals (just re-read recent posts
> in this thread, including your own comments below).
Graeme
Podolinsky is the organisation, just as in NZ there are one or two people
who have 'stolen' the association. It is often the way. One or two people
dominate to the detrime
Our newer (Biodynamic
Agriculture) organisation has taken a more open and educational position and
many farmers are learning to do things for themselves. There will be more
mistakes made for sure, but learning always involves
mistakes.
Hi Lloyd I get there NewsLeaf
Glen wrote
> Upon reflection I do not hear people knocking the use of traditional
preps.
> They are knocking the organisations who seem to be isolating themselves
from
> their members and the wider BD community,
Hi Glen Maybe there is a glimmer of change on the horizon. I was
contacted yes
> There's a guy down the road from me who sells "organic" vegetables to
> people. He makes his compost by mixing urea and sawdust together and
> leaving it for 3 weeks, then puts it on the plants. He told me he
> doesn't use any pesticides or chemicals - "only a bit of roundup at
> the start, of
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Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 11:16 PM
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If yo
Dear Hugh
Thanks for an interesting note - your mexican friend is obviously enjoying his success.
I think the major problem with the old guard in Australia was one of communication (lack of it) , that disenchanted farmer that I quoted said " Alex wont address the problem", it sh
>Mr. Lovel, what radionic instrument do you recommend??? I will have time to
>work with it this season...sstorch
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Dear Hugh
Thanks for an interesting note - your mexican
friend is obviously enjoying his success.
I think the major problem with the old guard in
Australia was one of communication (lack of it) , that disenchanted farmer
that I quoted said " Alex wont ad
co.nz
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> If your interest is in biodynamics, you may
> Graeme
> Upon reflection I do not hear people knocking the use of traditional
preps.
> They are knocking the organisations who seem to be isolating themselves
from
> their members and the wider BD community, yet maintain relevance because
of
> their trademark and its apparant value.
well said
co.nz
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> If your interest is in biodynamics, you may
Thanks Tony
GA
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Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 3:35 AM
Subject: European preps (was Re: Dornachia
I would like to obtain some 'official' European preps please, that I can
work up into homeopathics. At least save the ones that are there now for
the
future.
Where does one buy them??
Glen - 'Official' preps can be bought in UK from Biodynamic Supplies (Paul
van Midden), Lorieneen, Bridge of Muc
Mr. Lovel, what radionic instrument do you recommend??? I will have time to
work with it this season...sstorch
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If your interest is in biodynamics, you may be wondering if you are
subscribed to the right group!
Despite the numerous claims to the contrary that you may read on the
BDNow group, biodynamics is thriving, here in Australia at least.
People are using the real preps, as described and recommended
Lloyd Charles wrote:
>in Australia Alex Podolinsky
>owns the [Demeter] trademark and would probably suffer a stroke if he caught one of
>his farmers using radionics - the number three Podolinsky man left the fold
>recently and told a friend of mine (another who left) that "the farm is
>stuffed, it
> I bet Demeter wont change until the old guard dies out or the organisation
> itself and the farmers it serves are at the point of imminent failure -
Lloyd
If NZ is a guide, another generation has been sporned who believe the crap
the older generation has sold them and they are fighting hard to ma
preps except Valerian? The
>>new EU rules are no animals parts to be used for prep. making. Same problem
>>for anthr. homeopathic medicine.
>>Michael
>>
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>>To: "
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> A lot of European bdgrowers use the Demeter-symbol and get a higher price
> for their products than for ordinary organ
much more comfortable So leagal action may be needed to
cause a little more discomfort
regards,
Peter.
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> How does this help if one cannot make all the BD preps
> I was just wondering what the attitude of the Demeter certification bodies
> in USA, OZ, NZ is towards radionically applied preps/ Malcolm Rae cards,
> etc. Or does nobody carry a Demeter symbol there?
> Arjen
Hi Arjen
In the USA they (demeter) patented the term " Biodynamic" so the likes of
Hug
EU rules are no animals parts to be used for prep. making. Same problem
for anthr. homeopathic medicine.
Michael
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amic Food and Farming Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Arjen,
>
> The best of health to you for visiting our e-mail list. It has bit a bit
> unfortunate that our English language e-mail list has left ou
Arjen,
The best of health to you for visiting our e-mail list. It has bit a bit
unfortunate that our English language e-mail list has left out Germans. You
should be full participants, but there is the language barrierier.
So now you want to know about how we can circumvent these rulings.?
One w
Hallo,
It is really interesting stuff that people are working with here,
especially the cosmic pipes, homeopathic peppering and use radionic
instruments and cards. According to the feedback on this list, it seems
like these things work as good, or even better, than the original thing. At
the s
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