Re: Dornachian reactions?

2003-07-13 Thread James Hedley
Dear Lloyd, I agree with you that after 20 years of having input from Alex maybe the farmer in question was so used to being spoon fed that they could not think for themselves. My take on the whole situation is that BD is a great tool for creating s

Re: Dornachian reactions?

2003-07-04 Thread James Hedley
Dear Lloyd, I agree with you that after 20 years of having input from Alex maybe the farmer in question was so used to being spoon fed that they could not think for themselves. My take on the whole situation is that BD is a great tool for creating soil fertility, howeve

Re: Dornachian reactions?

2003-06-28 Thread Hugh Lovel
ROTECTED]> >Date: Saturday, June 28, 2003 8:27 AM >Subject: Re: Dornachian reactions? > > >>Dear James, >> >>How are you doing it? >> >>Incidentally, I've been finding out more about Don Croft's "cloudbuster" >>which is not a c

Re: Dornachian reactions?

2003-06-28 Thread ron poitras
Hugh Lovel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Biodynamic Food and Farming Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Saturday, June 28, 2003 8:27 AM Subject: Re: Dornachian reactions? >Dear James, > >How are you doing it? > >Incidentally, I've been finding out more about Don

Re: Dornachian reactions?

2003-06-28 Thread Hugh Lovel
Dear James, How are you doing it? Incidentally, I've been finding out more about Don Croft's "cloudbuster" which is not a cloudbuster but an atmospheric reorganizer. Yes, it not only is safe to set up and leave working at all times, it is highly desirable. God, have we been getting the rain. All

Re: Dornachian reactions?

2003-06-28 Thread James Hedley
more discomfort regards, Peter. - Original Message - From: "Arjen Huese" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Biodynamic Food and Farming Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 8:24 PM Subject: Re: Dornachian reactions? > A lot of European bdgrowers u

Re: Dornachian reactions?/certification

2003-06-28 Thread Hugh Lovel
Thanks Graeme, I think Elliot and I are around the same age, but of course both of us are much jnior to Helen and Scott Nearing, John and Helen Philbrick, etc. Hugh >... >Otherwise I am in agreement with your other comments on >certification. Spot on as we convicts say! >-- >Graeme Gerrard >[E

Re: Dornachian reactions?/certification

2003-06-27 Thread Resonant Info
Dear List, Of course, writers on this list sometimes disparrage others either on this list or off it. A couple cases in point are: >> People are using the real preps, (as though homeopathic and radionically prepared preps are not real) Well I meant real in the sense of substantial living

Re: Dornachian reactions?/certification

2003-06-27 Thread Resonant Info
Dear List, Of course, writers on this list sometimes disparrage others either on this list or off it. A couple cases in point are: >> People are using the real preps, (as though homeopathic and radionically prepared preps are not real) Well I meant real in the sense of substantial living

Re: Dornachian reactions?/certification

2003-06-25 Thread Hugh Lovel
>Hi Glen, >I do agree with much that you say here, but you start with saying no >one is criticising anyone except the organisations but this is not >true. People are singling out individuals (just re-read recent posts >in this thread, including your own comments below). It just makes >the genu

Re: Glen Re: Dornachian reactions?

2003-06-25 Thread Garuda
Graeme > Yes. There you go again Glen. But no matter. Seems to me if these > groups are so irrelevant, why do they survive - Are they /we being all we could be??? > > >This is why quality based certification regardless of production method is > >the way of the future. Twas thingking about thi

Re: Dornachian reactions? A glimmer of hope

2003-06-25 Thread Peter Michael Bacchus
Hi Tony, That is great news, I hope the meeting goes well. warm regards, Peter. > > Hi Glen Maybe there is a glimmer of change on the horizon. I was > contacted yesterday by a NZBD assoc member and was asked 'How can the NZBD > assoc help people like me who organise workshops an

Re: Lloyd Re: Dornachian reactions?

2003-06-25 Thread Lloyd Charles
- Original Message - From: "Resonant Info" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Biodynamic Food and Farming Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 8:07 AM Subject: Lloyd Re: Dornachian reactions? Hi Graeme> - just a few comments - I also ha

Re: Dornachian reactions? A glimmer of hope

2003-06-25 Thread Garuda
ThermoMax -THE proven frost protection www.bdmax.co.nz - Original Message - From: "Rambler Flowers LTD" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Biodynamic Food and Farming Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 8:44 AM Subject: Re: Dornachian reactions? A g

Glen Re: Dornachian reactions?

2003-06-25 Thread Resonant Info
Yes. There you go again Glen. But no matter. Seems to me if these groups are so irrelevant, why do they survive - I mean, there must be some people who think they are still doing something useful. (I think I remember the Marinus la Rooij name from that book BD Perspectives? I can't remember t

Lloyd Re: Dornachian reactions?

2003-06-25 Thread Resonant Info
Lloyd, (On rading this thru - it needs re-organising, but I have to rush out and do stuff. I hope you can get the main points.) Yes, his approach is of course better than commercial growers'. What does his stuff taste like? I wouldn't buy it. My partner and i went down there to have a look

Re: Dornachian reactions? A glimmer of hope

2003-06-25 Thread Garuda
y, June 26, 2003 8:44 AM Subject: Re: Dornachian reactions? A glimmer of hope > > Glen wrote > > > > Upon reflection I do not hear people knocking the use of traditional > preps. > > They are knocking the organisations who seem to be isolating themselves > from >

Re: Dornachian reactions?

2003-06-25 Thread Garuda
. People are singling out individuals (just re-read recent posts > in this thread, including your own comments below). Graeme Podolinsky is the organisation, just as in NZ there are one or two people who have 'stolen' the association. It is often the way. One or two people dominate to the detrime

Re: Dornachian reactions?

2003-06-25 Thread Rambler Flowers LTD
  Our newer (Biodynamic Agriculture) organisation has taken a more open and educational position and many farmers are learning to do things for themselves. There will be more mistakes made for sure, but learning always involves mistakes.     Hi Lloyd I get there NewsLeaf

Re: Dornachian reactions? A glimmer of hope

2003-06-25 Thread Rambler Flowers LTD
Glen wrote > Upon reflection I do not hear people knocking the use of traditional preps. > They are knocking the organisations who seem to be isolating themselves from > their members and the wider BD community, Hi Glen Maybe there is a glimmer of change on the horizon. I was contacted yes

Re: Dornachian reactions?

2003-06-25 Thread Lloyd Charles
> There's a guy down the road from me who sells "organic" vegetables to > people. He makes his compost by mixing urea and sawdust together and > leaving it for 3 weeks, then puts it on the plants. He told me he > doesn't use any pesticides or chemicals - "only a bit of roundup at > the start, of

Re: Dornachian reactions?

2003-06-25 Thread Resonant Info
ermoMax -THE proven frost protection www.bdmax.co.nz - Original Message - From: "Resonant Info" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Biodynamic Food and Farming Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 11:16 PM Subject: Re: Dornachian reactions? If yo

Re: Dornachian reactions?

2003-06-24 Thread Hugh Lovel
  Dear Hugh                 Thanks for an interesting note - your mexican friend is obviously enjoying his success. I think the major problem with the old guard in Australia was one of communication (lack of it) , that disenchanted farmer that I quoted said " Alex wont address the problem", it sh

Re: Dornachian reactions?

2003-06-24 Thread Hugh Lovel
>Mr. Lovel, what radionic instrument do you recommend??? I will have time to >work with it this season...sstorch >___ >BDNow mailing list >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >You can unsubscribe or change your options at: >http://lists.envirolink.org/mailman/listinfo/bdn

Re: Dornachian reactions?

2003-06-24 Thread Lloyd Charles
  Dear Hugh                 Thanks for an interesting note - your mexican friend is obviously enjoying his success. I think the major problem with the old guard in Australia was one of communication (lack of it) , that disenchanted farmer that I quoted said " Alex wont ad

Re: Dornachian reactions?

2003-06-24 Thread Garuda
co.nz - Original Message - From: "Resonant Info" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Biodynamic Food and Farming Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 11:16 PM Subject: Re: Dornachian reactions? > If your interest is in biodynamics, you may

Re: Dornachian reactions?

2003-06-24 Thread Lloyd Charles
> Graeme > Upon reflection I do not hear people knocking the use of traditional preps. > They are knocking the organisations who seem to be isolating themselves from > their members and the wider BD community, yet maintain relevance because of > their trademark and its apparant value. well said

Re: Dornachian reactions?

2003-06-24 Thread Garuda
co.nz - Original Message - From: "Resonant Info" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Biodynamic Food and Farming Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 11:16 PM Subject: Re: Dornachian reactions? > If your interest is in biodynamics, you may

Re: European preps (was Re: Dornachian reactions?)

2003-06-24 Thread Garuda
Thanks Tony GA BdMax distributors of ThermoMax -THE proven frost protection www.bdmax.co.nz - Original Message - From: "Tony Nelson-Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 3:35 AM Subject: European preps (was Re: Dornachia

European preps (was Re: Dornachian reactions?)

2003-06-24 Thread Tony Nelson-Smith
I would like to obtain some 'official' European preps please, that I can work up into homeopathics. At least save the ones that are there now for the future. Where does one buy them?? Glen - 'Official' preps can be bought in UK from Biodynamic Supplies (Paul van Midden), Lorieneen, Bridge of Muc

Re: Dornachian reactions?

2003-06-24 Thread SBruno75
Mr. Lovel, what radionic instrument do you recommend??? I will have time to work with it this season...sstorch ___ BDNow mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can unsubscribe or change your options at: http://lists.envirolink.org/mailman/listinfo/bdnow

Re: Dornachian reactions?

2003-06-24 Thread Resonant Info
If your interest is in biodynamics, you may be wondering if you are subscribed to the right group! Despite the numerous claims to the contrary that you may read on the BDNow group, biodynamics is thriving, here in Australia at least. People are using the real preps, as described and recommended

Re: Dornachian reactions?

2003-06-23 Thread Hugh Lovel
Lloyd Charles wrote: >in Australia Alex Podolinsky >owns the [Demeter] trademark and would probably suffer a stroke if he caught one of >his farmers using radionics - the number three Podolinsky man left the fold >recently and told a friend of mine (another who left) that "the farm is >stuffed, it

Re: Dornachian reactions?

2003-06-23 Thread Garuda
> I bet Demeter wont change until the old guard dies out or the organisation > itself and the farmers it serves are at the point of imminent failure - Lloyd If NZ is a guide, another generation has been sporned who believe the crap the older generation has sold them and they are fighting hard to ma

Re: Dornachian reactions?

2003-06-23 Thread Hugh Lovel
preps except Valerian? The >>new EU rules are no animals parts to be used for prep. making. Same problem >>for anthr. homeopathic medicine. >>Michael >> >>- Original Message - >>From: "Hugh Lovel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>To: "

Re: Dornachian reactions?

2003-06-23 Thread Garuda
t; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Biodynamic Food and Farming Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 8:24 PM Subject: Re: Dornachian reactions? > A lot of European bdgrowers use the Demeter-symbol and get a higher price > for their products than for ordinary organ

Re: Dornachian reactions?

2003-06-23 Thread Peter Michael Bacchus
much more comfortable So leagal action may be needed to cause a little more discomfort regards, Peter. - Original Message - From: "Arjen Huese" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Biodynamic Food and Farming Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003

Re: Dornachian reactions?

2003-06-23 Thread Lloyd Charles
- Original Message - From: "mroiboz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Biodynamic Food and Farming Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 2:57 PM Subject: Re: Dornachian reactions? > How does this help if one cannot make all the BD preps

Re: Dornachian reactions?

2003-06-23 Thread Lloyd Charles
> I was just wondering what the attitude of the Demeter certification bodies > in USA, OZ, NZ is towards radionically applied preps/ Malcolm Rae cards, > etc. Or does nobody carry a Demeter symbol there? > Arjen Hi Arjen In the USA they (demeter) patented the term " Biodynamic" so the likes of Hug

Re: Dornachian reactions?

2003-06-20 Thread Arjen Huese
EU rules are no animals parts to be used for prep. making. Same problem for anthr. homeopathic medicine. Michael - Original Message - From: "Hugh Lovel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Biodynamic Food and Farming Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, June 1

Re: Dornachian reactions?

2003-06-20 Thread mroiboz
amic Food and Farming Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 6:18 PM Subject: Re: Dornachian reactions? > Arjen, > > The best of health to you for visiting our e-mail list. It has bit a bit > unfortunate that our English language e-mail list has left ou

Re: Dornachian reactions?

2003-06-19 Thread Hugh Lovel
Arjen, The best of health to you for visiting our e-mail list. It has bit a bit unfortunate that our English language e-mail list has left out Germans. You should be full participants, but there is the language barrierier. So now you want to know about how we can circumvent these rulings.? One w

Dornachian reactions?

2003-06-18 Thread Arjen Huese
Hallo, It is really interesting stuff that people are working with here, especially the cosmic pipes, homeopathic peppering and use radionic instruments and cards. According to the feedback on this list, it seems like these things work as good, or even better, than the original thing. At the s