Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Separate browse menus for album artists in 7.8.1 ?

2014-08-18 Thread Michael Herger
Now the characters are in the wrong order: A should be before Å, I'd say (the ORDER BY without COLLATE results in the Å after the X). Specifying COLLATE in the GROUP BY clause seems to have no effect when the ORDER BY is following. That's a very interesting observation. Could you please add

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Separate browse menus for album artists in 7.8.1 ?

2014-08-16 Thread reinholdk
mherger wrote: As you can see, in the query grouped by namesort \xC3\x85 would be its own item, thus creating its own letter in the index bar. Whereas the real query would put it with all the As in the list. I'm no SQLite expert, thus might be missing the obvious. But I'd say we're applying

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Separate browse menus for album artists in 7.8.1 ?

2014-08-05 Thread mherger
reinholdk wrote: Are you saying that it's not possible to use COLLATE with GROUP BY or that it's not working? Here's what I got in my testing (I even updated to the latest and greatest DBD::SQLite version): Code: [14-08-05 16:00:03.5169]

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Separate browse menus for album artists in 7.8.1 ?

2014-08-04 Thread Michael Herger
Yes, that's what we're doing. But while ORDER BY would use this parameter, GROUP BY does not. Are you saying that it's not possible to use COLLATE with GROUP BY or that it's not working? Thanks for the pointers. I'm saying that in the little testing I did COLLATE did not work with GROUP BY.

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Separate browse menus for album artists in 7.8.1 ?

2014-08-01 Thread reinholdk
mherger wrote: Yes, that's what we're doing. But while ORDER BY would use this parameter, GROUP BY does not. Are you saying that it's not possible to use COLLATE with GROUP BY or that it's not working? I'm no expert in this field but from what I've seen 'here'

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Separate browse menus for album artists in 7.8.1 ?

2014-07-31 Thread audiomuze
mherger wrote: Do you have any ALBUMARTIST defined for those tracks? If not I'd say you're seeing expected behaviour. I have albumartist defined for all albums that aren't compilations. In general my tagging convention has been as follows (and this is driven through actions in puddletag, so

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Separate browse menus for album artists in 7.8.1 ?

2014-07-31 Thread audiomuze
Just installed Logitech Media Server Version: 7.9.0 - 1406814226 and ran a clear and rescan. Seems it's now sorted. Thx. SqueezeWand | 'Vivere DAC MKI' (http://vivereaudio.com/post/2013/08/16/DAC-I-is-Born!.aspx) | 'ATC SCA2'

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Separate browse menus for album artists in 7.8.1 ?

2014-07-30 Thread audiomuze
JJZolx wrote: A change that should fix the behavior of using COMPILATION=0 was made to 7.9 a few days ago. Have you tried it recently? In theory, it should fix your problem. Just installed 7.9.0 - 1406647611 and ran a clear and rescan. I'm still getting artists that aren't tagged as

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Separate browse menus for album artists in 7.8.1 ?

2014-07-30 Thread Michael Herger
Just installed 7.9.0 - 1406647611 and ran a clear and rescan. I'm still getting artists that aren't tagged as albumartist for an album appearing as albumartists for the album so long as they're one of the artists on any track. I have compilation set to 0. Do you have any ALBUMARTIST defined

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Separate browse menus for album artists in 7.8.1 ?

2014-07-29 Thread JJZolx
mherger wrote: Phil, could you please file a bug report for this and CC me on it? I currently don't have too much bandwidth to work on LMS stuff and don't want to miss such issues. Thanks! How would you fix that? You would either have know that the characters Å and A will be sorted the

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Separate browse menus for album artists in 7.8.1 ?

2014-07-29 Thread Michael Herger
could you please file a bug report for this and CC me on it? I currently don't have too much bandwidth to work on LMS stuff and don't want to miss such issues. Thanks! How would you fix that? How about... sort the page bar the same way we sort the items? You would either have know that the

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Separate browse menus for album artists in 7.8.1 ?

2014-07-29 Thread JJZolx
mherger wrote: You would either have know that the characters Å and A will be sorted the same and suppress the Å Exactly. As we do the same with the items anyway. In what sense? If you're talking about storing Å as A in the sort fields within the database, that's the wrong approach,

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Separate browse menus for album artists in 7.8.1 ?

2014-07-29 Thread Michael Herger
You would either have know that the characters Å and A will be sorted the same and suppress the Å Exactly. As we do the same with the items anyway. In what sense? If you're talking about storing Å as A in the sort fields within the database, that's the wrong approach, IMO. As you can already

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Separate browse menus for album artists in 7.8.1 ?

2014-07-29 Thread Phil Meyer
I might try that, although that doesn't seem logical. I wouldn't expect an artist with an added contributor role or 'ARTIST' to appear among the album artists. I was thinking that possibly having 'Various Artists' as the ALBUMARTIST for a non-compilation might do the trick. Basically, by changing

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Separate browse menus for album artists in 7.8.1 ?

2014-07-29 Thread Phil Meyer
could you please file a bug report for this and CC me on it? I currently don't have too much bandwidth to work on LMS stuff and don't want to miss such issues. Thanks! Sure Michael, thanks. I'm not too bothered by it, but thought it was worth pointing out. There's probably more important

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Separate browse menus for album artists in 7.8.1 ?

2014-07-29 Thread Michael Herger
But under 'Album Arstists', 'Various Artists' appears nowhere. :( Considering that it was included in an ALBUMARTIST tag, I find that surprising. Is it being explicitly excluded from this list for some reason? Is there a bug report for this? -- Michael

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Separate browse menus for album artists in 7.8.1 ?

2014-07-29 Thread Phil Meyer
How about... sort the page bar the same way we sort the items? Morgan Ågren appears in the artist list, half way through the artists beginning with A. The issue is that there could be several artists beginning with Å appearing in the artists list, and they would not be sorted together, as it

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Separate browse menus for album artists in 7.8.1 ?

2014-07-29 Thread Michael Herger
The issue is that there could be several artists beginning with Å appearing in the artists list, and they would not be sorted together, as it appears to be treating Å and A equally for sorting purposes. Yeah, I've seen that ORDER BY would treat Å or A the same (depending on the language

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Separate browse menus for album artists in 7.8.1 ?

2014-07-29 Thread reinholdk
mherger wrote: Yeah, I've seen that ORDER BY would treat Å or A the same (depending on the language settings), but GROUP BY doesn't. Therefore this won't be an easy fix :-(. You might be aware of it already, but I wondered how unicode sorting works in sqlite and found that a collation

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Separate browse menus for album artists in 7.8.1 ?

2014-07-29 Thread Michael Herger
mherger wrote: Yeah, I've seen that ORDER BY would treat Å or A the same (depending on the language settings), but GROUP BY doesn't. Therefore this won't be an easy fix :-(. You might be aware of it already, but I wondered how unicode sorting works in sqlite and found that a collation sequence

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Separate browse menus for album artists in 7.8.1 ?

2014-07-28 Thread JJZolx
A change that should fix the behavior of using COMPILATION=0 was made to 7.9 a few days ago. Have you tried it recently? In theory, it should fix your problem. JJZolx's Profile:

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Separate browse menus for album artists in 7.8.1 ?

2014-07-28 Thread JJZolx
mherger wrote: I still have the Various Artists item filed under V. Don't you get that one? Under browse Albums, yes. But nowhere among Album Artists or All Artists when Browse Artists is set to two lists. It does appear at the top of Artists when the single, configurable list is

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Separate browse menus for album artists in 7.8.1 ?

2014-07-28 Thread JJZolx
Further experimenting... I took a couple more compilation albums and tried different tagging. 1) ALBUMARTIST=Various ALBUMARTISTSORT=0 COMPILATION=1 2) ALBUMARTIST=Aaron Aaron ALBUMARTISTSORT=Aaron, Aaron COMPILATION=1 Again, both of these album artists are shown under 'All Artists', but

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Separate browse menus for album artists in 7.8.1 ?

2014-07-28 Thread Phil Meyer
But under 'Album Arstists', 'Various Artists' appears nowhere. :( Considering that it was included in an ALBUMARTIST tag, I find that surprising. Is it being explicitly excluded from this list for some reason? I'm guessing the reason is that this view is used when the server option for one

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Separate browse menus for album artists in 7.8.1 ?

2014-07-28 Thread Phil Meyer
Relating to the Album Artists view in the Web UI, I notice that I have a small discrepancy between the content of the artists, and the shortcut jump letters strip. 1 2 3 5 7 8 Å A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z I have an artist Morgan Ågren that appears within the middle of

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Separate browse menus for album artists in 7.8.1 ?

2014-07-28 Thread Phil Meyer
It seems as though LMS is explicitly excluding album artists from compilation albums. Did you mean excluding compilation albums from album artists? i.e. the artist isn't excluded because the artist has a particular Album Artist name, but because the album is a compilation? In your example, I

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Separate browse menus for album artists in 7.8.1 ?

2014-07-28 Thread JJZolx
Philip Meyer wrote: What if you were to change one of your compilation albums to include an artist called Various Artists on every track (so the Various Artists appears with role=Artist)? This might trick the view to include the entry in the list, and when you browse Various Artists, it

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Separate browse menus for album artists in 7.8.1 ?

2014-07-28 Thread Michael Herger
Phil, could you please file a bug report for this and CC me on it? I currently don't have too much bandwidth to work on LMS stuff and don't want to miss such issues. Thanks! Michael Am 29.07.14 um 04:39 schrieb Phil Meyer: Relating to the Album Artists view in the Web UI, I notice that I

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Separate browse menus for album artists in 7.8.1 ?

2014-07-10 Thread Philip Meyer
I believe COMPILATION=0 was used for people who have albums with the same name in the same folder (iTunes defaulted to this). The albums would be merged into one, and if the artists were different, the album would be auto detected as a comp, Various Artists. Setting COMPILATION=0 forced an album

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Separate browse menus for album artists in 7.8.1 ?

2014-07-10 Thread audiomuze
How do we take this forward to resolve or was a decision made long time back not to resolve it? SqueezeWand | 'Vivere DAC MKI' (http://vivereaudio.com/post/2013/08/16/DAC-I-is-Born!.aspx) | 'ATC SCA2' (http://www.atcloudspeakers.co.uk/hi-fi/electronics/source-pre-amplifiers/sca2/) | 'ATC

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Separate browse menus for album artists in 7.8.1 ?

2014-07-09 Thread JJZolx
audiomuze wrote: Guessing this is a bug? Sounds like it. That's exactly what shouldn't happen. I take it you have a COMPILATION=0 tag on that album? If so, see what happens if you remove it and rescan (new changed).

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Separate browse menus for album artists in 7.8.1 ?

2014-07-09 Thread audiomuze
JJZolx wrote: Sounds like it. That's exactly what shouldn't happen. I take it you have a COMPILATION=0 tag on that album? If so, see what happens if you remove it and rescan (new changed). I did have comp=0, removed it, changed file data and timestamps,k rescanned, it picked up changes

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Separate browse menus for album artists in 7.8.1 ?

2014-07-09 Thread JJZolx
audiomuze wrote: I did have comp=0, removed it, changed file data and timestamps,k rescanned, it picked up changes (found 10 changed files), same result. Moved the album folder to a different folder in the tree forcing and ran a clear and rescan and she's no longer an albumartist. Moved

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Separate browse menus for album artists in 7.8.1 ?

2014-07-09 Thread audiomuze
JJZolx wrote: It appears to be a bug, but it would be good to figure out why it's happening, so that it can be fixed. I can't tell from your description if only moving the files, without changing the existing tagging, was enough to make it correct. In my experience, using COMPILATION=0

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Separate browse menus for album artists in 7.8.1 ?

2014-07-09 Thread Philip Meyer
IIRC, when a compilation tag is present, this always results in artist roles, rather than track artist roles. Should not use compilation=0. In my experience, when the scanner has read a comp flag for an album, it will not detect a change upon rescan. Moving to a different source folder will cause

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Separate browse menus for album artists in 7.8.1 ?

2014-07-09 Thread JJZolx
audiomuze wrote: 2) changes to tags with underlying file time and date stamps being altered not being picked up in a rescan. That's not a bug. That's how it's designed to work. If LMS tried reading metadata from every file during a new changed scan, then it would take as long, or longer than

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Separate browse menus for album artists in 7.8.1 ?

2014-07-09 Thread audiomuze
Not sure we're understanding one another - the time stamps ARE changed but it would seem the files are not rescanned? Surely that's not intentional? SqueezeWand | 'Vivere DAC MKI' (http://vivereaudio.com/post/2013/08/16/DAC-I-is-Born!.aspx) | 'ATC SCA2'

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Separate browse menus for album artists in 7.8.1 ?

2014-07-09 Thread audiomuze
JJZolx wrote: That's not a bug. That's how it's designed to work. If LMS tried reading metadata from every file during a new changed scan, then it would take as long, or longer than doing a full scan. It uses only size and timestamp to determine if a file has changed. There may be a bug

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Separate browse menus for album artists in 7.8.1 ?

2014-07-09 Thread JJZolx
Yes, I've reproduced it. With COMPILATION=0, the 'guest' artist is included among album artists. The reason is that the guest artist is given an 'artist' role instead of a 'track artist' role when the tag is present. That's bug #1. Not sure if that can be fixed, or if you'd need to remove the

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Separate browse menus for album artists in 7.8.1 ?

2014-07-09 Thread JJZolx
I guess bug #1 is this old thing: 'Track artist roles become artist roles when COMPILATION=0' (http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=5108) :) And my comments to that bug report echo yours. It should not matter if you add a COMPILATION=0 tag. At worst, it should be redundant. Having it

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Separate browse menus for album artists in 7.8.1 ?

2014-07-08 Thread audiomuze
Regarding the Album Artist browse, I have an album tagged as follows: on all tracks including the last albumartist=Mindy Smith on all tracks but the last performer and artist are tagged Mindy Smith. On the last track, artist and performer are tagged Mindy Smith\\Dolly Parton I don't have any

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Separate browse menus for album artists in 7.8.1 ?

2014-06-28 Thread audiomuze
So, tried to follow this thread, but the head hurts too much trying to keep track of what's been agreed. Could someone summarize salient points? SqueezeWand | 'Vivere DAC MKI' (http://vivereaudio.com/post/2013/08/16/DAC-I-is-Born!.aspx) | 'ATC SCA2'

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Separate browse menus for album artists in 7.8.1 ?

2014-06-17 Thread Phil Meyer
I have it in All Artists. Me too - Various Artists appears under All Artists, but not in Album Artists list. Do you have any track with this literal artist name? Yes, I have a whole album with each track Artist=Various Artists. As I have albums by Various Artists, I would expect to find this

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Separate browse menus for album artists in 7.8.1 ?

2014-06-16 Thread Michael Herger
Right now I'm playing with only the basic option to have the added browse Album Artists mode, _without_ the EBM plugin. Without the plugin, I'm afraid we've completely lost the ability to browse the VA. IMO, this is a bug. How about the following as a work around? I still have the Various

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Separate browse menus for album artists in 7.8.1 ?

2014-06-16 Thread JJZolx
mherger wrote: Right now I'm playing with only the basic option to have the added browse Album Artists mode, _without_ the EBM plugin. Without the plugin, I'm afraid we've completely lost the ability to browse the VA. IMO, this is a bug. How about the following as a work around?

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Separate browse menus for album artists in 7.8.1 ?

2014-06-16 Thread Michael Herger
I still have the Various Artists item filed under V. Don't you get that one? Under browse Albums, yes. But nowhere among Album Artists or All Artists when Browse Artists is set to two lists. It does appear at the top of Artists when the single, configurable list is set. I have it in All

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Separate browse menus for album artists in 7.8.1 ?

2014-06-16 Thread JJZolx
mherger wrote: I still have the Various Artists item filed under V. Don't you get that one? Under browse Albums, yes. But nowhere among Album Artists or All Artists when Browse Artists is set to two lists. It does appear at the top of Artists when the single, configurable list is

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Separate browse menus for album artists in 7.8.1 ?

2014-06-15 Thread JJZolx
Right now I'm playing with only the basic option to have the added browse Album Artists mode, _without_ the EBM plugin. Without the plugin, I'm afraid we've completely lost the ability to browse the VA. IMO, this is a bug. How about the following as a work around? With either Browse Artists

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Separate browse menus for album artists in 7.8.1 ?

2014-06-15 Thread JJZolx
JJZolx wrote: Without the plugin, I'm afraid we've completely lost the ability to browse the VA. IMO, this is a bug. How about the following as a work around? With either Browse Artists setting, keep the 'List compilation albums under each artist/Group compilation albums together' pref

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Separate browse menus for album artists in 7.8.1 ?

2014-06-13 Thread Michael Herger
A little heads up: the Extended Music Menu settings now are per player. You'll find them in Settings/Player. -- Michael ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Separate browse menus for album artists in 7.8.1 ?

2014-06-07 Thread Wirrunna
Been watching this evolve and have to say the new menu functions are very good. Only one minor suggestion, in Compilations, only show the album, don't list an artist. A camel is a racehorse designed by a committee.

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Separate browse menus for album artists in 7.8.1 ?

2014-06-07 Thread Phil Meyer
Only one minor suggestion, in Compilations, only show the album, don't list an artist. I disagree, in that the Album Artist can be set to anything the user wants for a compilation too; not all compilations may be by Various Artists. Some users tag compilations with Soundtrack as the album

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Separate browse menus for album artists in 7.8.1 ?

2014-06-07 Thread Wirrunna
Philip Meyer wrote: I disagree, in that the Album Artist can be set to anything the user wants for a compilation too; not all compilations may be by Various Artists. Some users tag compilations with Soundtrack as the album artist. Some users tag normal Greatest Hits albums with an

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Separate browse menus for album artists in 7.8.1 ?

2014-06-04 Thread Michael Herger
Any chance of attacking COMPOSERSORT, CONDUCTORSORT, BANDSORT and ORCHESTRASORT fields? It's inconsistent to be able to sort artist names, but not contributors having these other roles. COMPOSERSORT is TSOC in ID3v2. BANDSORT/ALBUMARTISTSORT is TSO2. I think TSO2 should simply be associated with

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Separate browse menus for album artists in 7.8.1 ?

2014-06-04 Thread JJZolx
mherger wrote: Any chance of attacking COMPOSERSORT, CONDUCTORSORT, BANDSORT and ORCHESTRASORT fields? It's inconsistent to be able to sort artist names, but not contributors having these other roles. COMPOSERSORT is TSOC in ID3v2. BANDSORT/ALBUMARTISTSORT is TSO2. I think TSO2

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Separate browse menus for album artists in 7.8.1 ?

2014-06-03 Thread Michael Herger
You could try removing the plugin preference file (extendedbrowsemodes.prefs). Yes, this helps. I doubt it. Most likely it's just a bug which needed a server restart to get cleared out. The prefs file should have nothing to do with the Contributors menu item. I'll double-check. Thanks for

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Separate browse menus for album artists in 7.8.1 ?

2014-06-03 Thread Michael Herger
You could try removing the plugin preference file (extendedbrowsemodes.prefs). Yes, this helps. I doubt it. Most likely it's just a bug which needed a server restart to get cleared out. The prefs file should have nothing to do with the Contributors menu item. I'll double-check. Thanks for

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Separate browse menus for album artists in 7.8.1 ?

2014-06-03 Thread Michael Herger
I think we should create a wiki page where we describe the different alternatives and edit them or produce variants if someone disagrees, but before doing that I got to ask is it as simple as: - *My Music/Album Artists* - Same behaviour as with 7.8 Artists menu if you have selected *Group

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Separate browse menus for album artists in 7.8.1 ?

2014-06-03 Thread get.amped
Trying to follow this thread makes my head hurt :confused: At some point I suppose I will have to figure out how this will work for my library. I found that Group compilation albums together. List albums by all artists for that album and Treat TPE2 MP3 tag as Band gave me the cleanest browse by

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Separate browse menus for album artists in 7.8.1 ?

2014-06-03 Thread get.amped
mherger wrote: If you were happy with your setup and the way LMS listed artists before, just stick with it. The new modes are entirely optional, though I defaulted them to On for now, to get some feedback. Just select the Unified list option in Settings/My Music. And then you could

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Separate browse menus for album artists in 7.8.1 ?

2014-06-03 Thread Michael Herger
Trying to follow this thread makes my head hurt :confused: Welcome to the club! At some point I suppose I will have to figure out how this will work for my library. I found that Group compilation albums together. List albums by all artists for that album and Treat TPE2 MP3 tag as Band gave me

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Separate browse menus for album artists in 7.8.1 ?

2014-06-02 Thread verypsb
pberger wrote: Yes, this helps. But after a clean and rescan of the library, the menu items are empty again... ::Please vote::: '::bug 1330:: New music should work on creation date' (http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1330) '::bug 17542:: New and changed doesn't handle changed

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Separate browse menus for album artists in 7.8.1 ?

2014-06-02 Thread JJZolx
I think there are some odd interactions of the plugin with the standard server, with the plugin switching prefs in an attempt to get the desired behavior. It all seems terribly overcomplicated. Which is exactly the opposite of my original intention.

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Separate browse menus for album artists in 7.8.1 ?

2014-06-02 Thread Michael Herger
I think we should create a wiki page where we describe the different alternatives and edit them or produce variants if someone disagrees, but before doing that I got to ask is it as simple as: - *My Music/Album Artists* - Same behaviour as with 7.8 Artists menu if you have selected *Group

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Separate browse menus for album artists in 7.8.1 ?

2014-06-01 Thread verypsb
After disabling the Extended Browse Modes plugin, removing the extendedbrowsemodes.prefs and enabling the Extended Browse Modes plugin, 'Compilations' has entries again. ::Please vote::: '::bug 1330:: New music should work on creation date' (http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1330)

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Separate browse menus for album artists in 7.8.1 ?

2014-06-01 Thread pberger
Philip Meyer wrote: You could try removing the plugin preference file (extendedbrowsemodes.prefs). Yes, this helps. But after a clean and rescan of the library, the menu items are empty again. Sometimes enabling/disabling the items in the plugin preferences helps, sometimes I need to remove

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Separate browse menus for album artists in 7.8.1 ?

2014-05-31 Thread verypsb
I tried your suggestion, but my 'Compiltion' browse mode is still empty :-( ::Please vote::: '::bug 1330:: New music should work on creation date' (http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1330) '::bug 17542:: New and changed doesn't handle changed files '

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Separate browse menus for album artists in 7.8.1 ?

2014-05-31 Thread verypsb
Philip Meyer wrote: I think Compilation=0 is probably confusing the scanner. If you remove that, I would expect it to work as you would hope. Note, you will probably need to do a full rescan to get rid of the compilation=0 value from the music library. After deleting the 'Compilation=0'

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Separate browse menus for album artists in 7.8.1 ?

2014-05-31 Thread Mnyb
verypsb wrote: After deleting the 'Compilation=0' tag the problem has gone. So, we need to tidy up the tags which are present on downloaded files? Always :) some are better than others ( commercial or non commercial seems be about the same level ) . I find it irritating that so many single

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Separate browse menus for album artists in 7.8.1 ?

2014-05-31 Thread Phil Meyer
I tried your suggestion, but my 'Compiltion' browse mode is still empty Are you sure you have albums tagged as compilation in your library? Why not try to search for one, and check it displays with Compilation: Yes in the album info WebUI display. ___

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Separate browse menus for album artists in 7.8.1 ?

2014-05-31 Thread pberger
bwaldron wrote: I did see that at one point. I was able to fix it by disabling then re-enabling the Compilations item and then applying the changes to the plugin settings. I've the same behaviour. I definitely have albums recognizes as compilations (shows compilation=yes), also it worked with

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Separate browse menus for album artists in 7.8.1 ?

2014-05-31 Thread Phil Meyer
You could try removing the plugin preference file (extendedbrowsemodes.prefs). ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Separate browse menus for album artists in 7.8.1 ?

2014-05-30 Thread verypsb
7.9.0 - 1401275007 Strange thing... I don't have 'Various Artists' listed in 'Album Artists' browsing mode... However, 'Compilations' is empty too... Anyone else seeing this behaviour? Dennis. ::Please vote::: '::bug 1330:: New music should work on creation date'

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Separate browse menus for album artists in 7.8.1 ?

2014-05-30 Thread bwaldron
verypsb wrote: 7.9.0 - 1401275007 Strange thing... I don't have 'Various Artists' listed in 'Album Artists' browsing mode... However, 'Compilations' is empty too... Anyone else seeing this behaviour? Dennis. I did see that at one point. I was able to fix it by disabling then

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Separate browse menus for album artists in 7.8.1 ?

2014-05-29 Thread Phil Meyer
as I said to Erland, my link to compilations in artist lists (be they album artists, all artists, whatever) would NOT be called Various Artists but rather Home Compilations I don't really see the point, as a Compilations menu has been added to the home menu, I think people will quickly figure

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Separate browse menus for album artists in 7.8.1 ?

2014-05-29 Thread Phil Meyer
- *My Music/Album Artists* - Same behaviour as with 7.8 Artists menu if you have selected *Group compilation albums together* - *My Music/Artists* - Same behaviour as with 7.8 Artists menu if you have selected *List compilation albums under each artist* Except for removal of the special Various

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Separate browse menus for album artists in 7.8.1 ?

2014-05-29 Thread pinkdot
erland wrote: I think we should create a wiki page where we describe the different alternatives and edit them or produce variants if someone disagrees, but before doing that I got to ask is it as simple as: - *My Music/Album Artists* - Same behaviour as with 7.8 Artists menu if you have

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Separate browse menus for album artists in 7.8.1 ?

2014-05-29 Thread Phil Meyer
There was a change applied on 28/05/2014: * Don't include artists from compilations in the album artists list. This seems to have done what it says; artists that are only guests on albums with an album artist or a compilation album are no longer listed. However, the Album Artists for

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Separate browse menus for album artists in 7.8.1 ?

2014-05-29 Thread JJZolx
Philip Meyer wrote: There was a change applied on 28/05/2014: * Don't include artists from compilations in the album artists list. This seems to have done what it says; artists that are only guests on albums with an album artist or a compilation album are no longer listed. However, the

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Separate browse menus for album artists in 7.8.1 ?

2014-05-28 Thread vihaan
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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Separate browse menus for album artists in 7.8.1 ?

2014-05-28 Thread vihaan
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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Separate browse menus for album artists in 7.8.1 ?

2014-05-28 Thread Phil Meyer
We have to accept this and find an alternative where at least a significant amount of people can be happy. Tagging with ALBUMARTIST=Various Artists is pretty common and I also think tagging with ALBUMARTIST on all albums is pretty common. It depends on the tagging software but I know I for a long

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Separate browse menus for album artists in 7.8.1 ?

2014-05-28 Thread Phil Meyer
It's all a bit in progress - bug fixing included :-). Thanks. As Erland suggested I decided to throw changes at you to get feedback. That's fine. Wasn't sure what's meant to be fully working or in-progress. The discussion has been confusing and sometimes misleading. Having a common base to

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Separate browse menus for album artists in 7.8.1 ?

2014-05-28 Thread BJW
Philip Meyer wrote: We have to accept this and find an alternative where at least a significant amount of people can be happy. Tagging with ALBUMARTIST=Various Artists is pretty common and I also think tagging with ALBUMARTIST on all albums is pretty common. It depends on the tagging

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Separate browse menus for album artists in 7.8.1 ?

2014-05-28 Thread mherger
Ok, assuming you don't like the current implementation of All Artists, but I didn't want to bring back the Band in Artists etc. options. Wouldn't this do the same? [image: http://gyazo.com/32990fa1ff9796d241c9ac8c14f0fac4.png] (check the last custom menu entry) Michael

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Separate browse menus for album artists in 7.8.1 ?

2014-05-28 Thread verypsb
All included in LogitechMediaServer-7.9.0-1401248537 ? ::Please vote::: '::bug 1330:: New music should work on creation date' (http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1330) '::bug 17542:: New and changed doesn't handle changed files ' (http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=17963)

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Separate browse menus for album artists in 7.8.1 ?

2014-05-28 Thread Michael Herger
All included in LogitechMediaServer-7.9.0-1401248537 ? No, you should wait for the next build. -- Michael ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Separate browse menus for album artists in 7.8.1 ?

2014-05-28 Thread verypsb
OK, thanks... Dennis. ::Please vote::: '::bug 1330:: New music should work on creation date' (http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1330) '::bug 17542:: New and changed doesn't handle changed files ' (http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=17963) '::bug 17799:: Use a separator such

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Separate browse menus for album artists in 7.8.1 ?

2014-05-28 Thread Michael Herger
Out now. -- Michael ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Separate browse menus for album artists in 7.8.1 ?

2014-05-28 Thread JJZolx
erland wrote: ALL ARTISTS - Should not contain any Various Artists entry, the whole purpose with this menu is that you want to find music where an artist is involved independent if the artist released the album or was just featured on a specific track. It doesn't matter if it's a

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Separate browse menus for album artists in 7.8.1 ?

2014-05-28 Thread bwaldron
JJZolx wrote: I disagree. I consider Various Artists to be a valid album artist, whether or not explicitly tagged as such. If I browse my Albums and see 100 albums by Various Artists, then I want to see Various Artists in my list of Album Artists and Artists. Yes. I use Various Artists as

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Separate browse menus for album artists in 7.8.1 ?

2014-05-28 Thread bwaldron
mherger wrote: Now I'll let you discuss. I'm out for a few days. Please come up with the feature list _everybody_ agrees with :-P. Will be back next week. I like this. I am seeing one issue, though; in a way it is the reverse of the issue that was fixed where track artists from compilations

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Separate browse menus for album artists in 7.8.1 ?

2014-05-28 Thread verypsb
JJZolx wrote: I disagree. I consider Various Artists to be a valid album artist, whether or not explicitly tagged as such. If I browse my Albums and see 100 albums by Various Artists, then I want to see Various Artists in my list of Album Artists and Artists. I disagree. I do not consider

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Separate browse menus for album artists in 7.8.1 ?

2014-05-28 Thread JJZolx
verypsb wrote: I disagree. I do not consider 'Various Artists' a valid option far ANY tag; artist, albumartist or other tag. I would not want to see 'Various Artists' in the 'All Artists' OR 'Album Artists' browsing modes. I only want to see 'Various Artists' in the compilation browsing

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Separate browse menus for album artists in 7.8.1 ?

2014-05-28 Thread Mnyb
verypsb wrote: I disagree. I do not consider 'Various Artists' a valid option far ANY tag; artist, albumartist or other tag. I would not want to see 'Various Artists' in the 'All Artists' OR 'Album Artists' browsing modes. I only want to see 'Various Artists' in the compilation browsing

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Separate browse menus for album artists in 7.8.1 ?

2014-05-28 Thread verypsb
JJZolx wrote: You don't want to see Various Artists when you browse albums? Or when you browse years, or genres? I would not miss them if they weren't, but think it would be better if 'Various Artists' or 'Compilations' 'were listed under albums/years/genres. However, I definitely do not want

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Separate browse menus for album artists in 7.8.1 ?

2014-05-28 Thread verypsb
Album Artist: Shelter Artist: Andy Bell, Shelter, Shelter feat. Andy Bell The Alpha Belles, The Alpha Belles Album: iPop Genre: Pop Year: 2014 Compilation: 0 This shows up as 'The Alpha Belles' under 'Album Artists'. I would expect that this would be listed only as 'Shelter' under

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Separate browse menus for album artists in 7.8.1 ?

2014-05-28 Thread erland
Trying to think about this on a higher level, without involving how the music is tagged, wouldn't this be true ? ALBUM ARTISTS[/B] - CONTAINS ALL ARTISTS THAT HAVE RELEASED AN ALBUM UNDER THEIR NAME *ARTISTS* - CONTAINS ALL ARTISTS THAT HAVE BEEN THE MAIN ARTIST ON A TRACK ON ANY ALBUM TO ME

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Separate browse menus for album artists in 7.8.1 ?

2014-05-28 Thread Mnyb
erland wrote: Trying to think about this on a higher level, without involving how the music is tagged, wouldn't this be true ? ALBUM ARTISTS[/B] - CONTAINS ALL ARTISTS THAT HAVE RELEASED AN ALBUM UNDER THEIR NAME *ARTISTS* - CONTAINS ALL ARTISTS THAT HAVE BEEN THE MAIN ARTIST ON A TRACK

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Separate browse menus for album artists in 7.8.1 ?

2014-05-28 Thread erland
Mnyb wrote: Where do I find artist that never been the main artist on any album ? I do think I have several of those artists ? My idea would be that you find them under *Artists*, I was a bit unclear about this and added the word main, what I was supposed to say was: *Artists* - Contains all

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