Re: [Bikies] E-Bikes

2019-07-10 Thread Robbie via Bikies
Don't keep your opinions to yourself! That's the fun of this list - a little spirited debate. But also don't take insult if people disagree. Robbie Webber State Smart Transportation Initiative www.ssti.us 608-263-9984 (office) 608-225-0002 (cell) On Wed, Jul 10, 2019, 7:21 PM john wagnitz via

Re: [Bikies] E-Bikes

2019-07-10 Thread john wagnitz via Bikies
Harry,I’d be happy to. The first instance occurred last week. I was traveling east on the capital city trail, crossing Dunning street (harmony bar). An eastbound commuter was attempting to pass me when a cyclist with a rear powered device traveling west at a high speed (25 mph?) came around the

Re: [Bikies] E-Bikes

2019-07-10 Thread Paul T. O'Leary via Bikies
Fixed that for ya... On 2019/07/10 17:01, Scott Morris Rose via Bikies wrote: as God_WIN_ intended. -- Paul T. O'Leary Chronic Nuisance Madison, WI USA ___ Bikies mailing list Bikies@lists.danenet.org

Re: [Bikies] E-Bikes

2019-07-10 Thread Scott Morris Rose via Bikies
I too, at times, would like to attack the integrity of another poster. But I don't, because... well, actually, I often do. Case in point, in fact. But I enjoyed this particular discussion regardless any overblown claims. What actually lights my fuse is reasoned, measured comments - tolerance of

Re: [Bikies] E-Bikes

2019-07-10 Thread Harry Read via Bikies
It's good to hear that most people posting here are not seeing much in the way of irresponsible ebike use but perhaps John Wagnitz can describe some specific instances that prompted his post. Responding to Jeff Schimpf's post, I agree that BCycle rentals are probably not going to make much of a

Re: [Bikies] E-Bikes

2019-07-10 Thread Brian C. Mink via Bikies
Could not agree more, Be Best. My wife and I are lifelong road and touring cyclists. We're retired at this point an tandem cycle daily. We spent some 40 years on a range of high end tandems but in the last couple years both have developed Sacro Iliac Dysfunction which in recent years has

Re: [Bikies] Bikies Digest, Vol 129, Issue 1

2019-07-10 Thread Jeffrey Schimpff via Bikies
n't kid yourselves, someone is definitely going to get hurt unnecessarily > riding an E-bike on the bike trail, maybe not fatally, but seriously. Just > hoping they don't take anybody else down with them. Oh - also - forgot, > this logic is also underscored by the fact that many E-bikes are > t

Re: [Bikies] E-Bikes

2019-07-10 Thread Robbie Webber via Bikies
While I think there are valid concerns with inexperienced people being able to go relatively fast on paths and trails, I am reminded that carnage was predicted when New York introduced Citibikes to their streets. People thought that this would lead to all sorts of tourists, newbie bicyclists, and

Re: [Bikies] E-Bikes

2019-07-10 Thread Harry Read via Bikies
>From a website called electricbikereview.com, a forum administrator posted what they describe as a guide to US law regarding ebikes as of 2016. It states that "In the United States electric bikes have seen slow but steady growth since the late 90’s and as a result, in 2001 congress was lobbied

Re: [Bikies] E-Bikes

2019-07-10 Thread Scott Rajski via Bikies
John has a super-valid point. Though I do see the advantages and contributions that e-bikes have made to society and I believe they have a place, it is also true that a huge number of people effectively use them as motorcycles. What's more is that, as is now being found out in Europe (indicated by

Re: [Bikies] E-Bikes

2019-07-10 Thread Steve Arnold via Bikies
On 7/9/2019 5:38 PM, john wagnitz via Bikies wrote: Anybody taking bets on how long before we see a fatality on the bike path in Madison? I predict before the end of the month. The offenders are not riding B-Cycles but seem to all be riding “bikes” with the Copenhagen wheel. I’m pretty sure