If any of you have been trying to contact me about Wingnut Babies please try
again. We were hit by lightening a couple of weeks back and when we replace
our computor something was placed in the email that gave out the wrong
return address at times. I didn't know this until someone who had tried
Hello everyone. I have my first set of bottle lambs for this fall. They were
born on October 13th (Friday!) They spent their first week with mom. But
they were small and it turned very wet & cold. They were not doing well with
this first time mom so I brought both in. They are Jack & Jill. Sired
Hello, I hope everyone in the midwest is all safe and sound. Our sheep woke
up the other morning to 14" of snow that they didn't know what to do with.
They were afraid to go out in it! Any way just wanted to let everyone know
we still have several almost 1 year old rams available to become herd
What we call corsicans are anything with a yellow belly. We have black
bellies, frosty backed blackbellies , and yellow bellies. They could have a
black belly mom and yellow dad or be a yellow mom & yellow dad and still
throw a black belly baby. You never know what you will get . Just my 2
cent
Oneta, Glad Bailey is doing well. The sheep are always teaching us
something. One person told us sheep are just looking for a reason to die.
But yet it seems like if they want to be they are tough as old boots. We
had a wool ewe tear a chunk out of her side thumb nail size. The vet said
never
I put out baking soda for our sheep all the time. They seem to love the
taste. Nancy @ mossysprings
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Hello, This is a quick note to let everyone know that is thinking of
reserving lambs with us that as of Feb. 15th the cost of lambs will be going
up do to the increased cost of hay and grain. People here are asking 4.75 to
$6 a bale for alfalfa and corn at the local MFA store is now $5 a bushel
I read somewhere that a lamb can't live on hay and grain alone until 10
weeks of age. But I have had a lamb or two that wouldn't drink much milk
from a bottle and the only problem I have found is that they just don't grow
very well. They tend to get the scoots and need pepto because the grain an
Hello, I may have a baby goat kid that I have to bottle can anyone tell me
if I can use lamb milk replacer or do I need special milk?I have never
raised a goat before. Thanks Nancy
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Thanks for the info on goat kids. I was lucky and the momma took her back! I
am now rearing 13 lambs in the house and another 5 outside and really didn't
need another. Hopefully my Jacobs will be better mothers as first timers so
I don't get many more. Thanks again Nancy
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I forgot to mention that we are considering going to the exotic sale in
Fruitland MO . (Southeast Corner). If anyone is intereseted in a bottle baby
corsican lamb I have a couple of rams left from Wing Nut Sr. and some rams
and ewes from Jr his son. Nancy - www.freewebs.com/mossyspringsranch - P
I am considering going to the Fruitland MO exotic sale this coming friday.
If anyone is interested in bottle babies I have a ram that is now 6 months
old that was sired by Wing nut and I have several ewes and rams that are
corsicans that were sired by wingnut Jr.(He is a black belly ) Pictures o
Hello, I have had a new born Jacob who won't lower his back legs . He wants
to keep them drawn up . Any ideas? I have had 2 others born that couldn't
stand. The legs would fold under at the first joint. Like they were weak.
they never got any stronger. Each of these lambs were born with soft spo
The sheep were all bred to the same ram. but other lambs have been fine that
were bred to another ram. We keep out loose mineral and natural
protein/mineral blocks. They are fed corn and alfalfa in the winter and
still yet this year. We only use safeguard to worm and that is suppose to be
saf
Thanks for all the suggestions,. I tried keeping one lamb alive for almost 2
weeks. He never got any better. Gave him vitamins etc. Vet says its not
selenium etc. Don't know if its genetic or not. But the ram got sprayed by
the power company spraying for weeds. It was safe spray though they say
Hello, I don't know if anyone can help with this or not. We have an angora
goat doe. She is well fed, wormed shorn etc. she keeps banging her head on
the post in the barn. We can't figure it out . She has her kid which was
born back in late december and is doing fine. Thanks for your help. Nancy
This silly goat will just walk up to the post and hit it 3 or 4 times.No
trembling or shaking etc. She is also pretty onry to the other goats. She
won't let them eat anywhere near her or she will hit them. I think she is
just plane mean. Also I still have a few sheep for sale if anyone is
inte
For all of you who liked our Sire Wing Nut. We have posted a new picture of
his son Junior who is a black belly twin. He is now about 15 months old.
Thanks for looking. Nancy www.freewebs.com/mossyspringsranch
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Hello, We had an experience last night that I thought I would share. We have
had over 400 babies born since we started raising sheep and never before has
this happened. I saw a jacob new born. but couldn't see its face because
momma was afraid and taking it away. About 3 hours later after dark T
Hello everyone, I have just posted some pictures of some of the rams that we
will have for sale. Some are black bellies, corsicans and black hawiian.
They are all sired by WingNut Sr.and have their horn size listed. We also
have others that are not pictured. They are from 12 months to about 18
I got this off of the hair sheep list but thought it appropriate for those
who raise sheep. I know it does fit me perfectly. Nancy
Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 17:05:06 -0500
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> Before I was a Goat Owner
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Hello, We have Black Belly mature rams for sale as breeders or for hunting.
They range in age from 16 months to a little over 2 years.
www.freewebs.com/mossyspringsranch Thanks for looking!
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Hello, We are in the process of updating our site. So when you have time you
may like to take a look. Thanks for looking!
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We run a ram year round and are having some ewes lamb now. We have had
mostly singles in the blackbelly type herd but 2 of our white horned
wiltshires have had twins. But like you all have said they are healthy and
strong but little in size. Nancy - Mossyspringsranch
> Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2007 18:
When we trim hooves we pen the rams and catch by the horns like everyone
else. Then my husband picks them up and puts them on their backs between my
legs while I am sitting on the ground and I cradle them between my legs
and hold on to their horns.I talk to them and rub their faces and chin wh
We are considering buying some land that currently has horses on it. WE do
not vaccinate for blackleg . Can anyone tell me how long we should wait
before putting our sheep on the land or if we have to vaccinate for it? They
will also be using the barn that the horses used. Thanks Nancy
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A couple of years ago we put some rams out on a neighbors pasture and fed
them grain about 2 times a week. they had been wormed. But we lost 3 of
them. They just dropped dead. Figured out it was anemia. They were not
getting enough protein from the grass but yet looked fat and sassy. Perhaps
th
I don't know much about goats and am hoping someone out there may know. 2
days ago our pigmy nanny had twins. All was fine until late afternoon when I
was gone. the next morning we found a little one almost dead. I warmed it up
and gave it some milk replacer. My problem is how much does a baby
Thanks for the info on feeding. My little baby pigmy only wieghs about 1/2
pound or so. He is now 5 days old. Still only eating about 1 ounce every 4
hours. He seems to be doing fine. We call him sqeeker his mother still
defends him but won't let him nurse like the other twin. Nancy
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We had about 16 lambs born from the last of August through mid September.
Boy have they grown exceptionally well. I Wish more had been born. Don't
know why more weren't since we run the ram year round but figure more will
start about the time the ice and snow flows with our luck! Truthfully thou
>Hello, I don't know much about goats hopefully someone out there will. I
>have a pgimy 3 weeks old. He was nursing mom but the last few days been
>eating on pellets. During the night I noticed him peeing blood. He is not
>nursing and she is large and very uncomfortable. I have forced 1 ounce of
sts longer. Some of those
> pellets have too much alfalfa for a 3 week old diet.. He may be sorta
> bloated or constipated. again, water. if you can feel the gut and feel
> a hard stool or he has not passed anything in a long time then examine
> and feel for an impacted gut. If that
Yes to Barbs love of her bottle baby.!!! I raise around 25 - 30 babies each
year. Some are blackbelly crosses and some jacobs but all are loveable. Alot
of them go to homes wanting pets etc. The ones we keep are certainly pest
according to my husband. He has trouble feeding since they are always
Here in Missouri you can buy salt blocks with sulfer in them. They look
yellow. Some folks say if they eat it it will keep the flys and mosquitos
away. Who Knows about that one. It does take them awhile to get use to
eating it though. Nancy - Mossyspringsranch
Looking for last minute shopping
As many of you know we breed for wide open horns. I have posted some more
pictures of some of our rams & other sheep for those who like to look. It is
possible to have horns cut or clipped and the ram live. Look at Copperhead
on our BB web page. He broke off his bottom horn off at the skull just
Sorry I put the link to our site wrong. www.freewebs.com/mossyspringsranch
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Like many of you we have started to lamb once again. I want to let folks
know who might possibly want a ram/weather that I have several bottle
babies now. They were born very small in size so pet quality would probably
best describe them for now unless they decide to grow rapidly. They were
pr
For all of you wanting to set up a website the one I use is freewebs.com
You can set up your pages very easily and put your name in the main title or
use freewebs.com/ your name. Take a look at ours. Its not the greatest but
easy as pie. www.freewebs.com/mossyspringsranch
We have about 200 ewes
- Good morning, I have a lamb who has been fighting a cold , some
congestion and a cough for about a week. She is a bottle lamb and I hate to
give shots! Is there anything new out there that you can put in the obtle ?
I know that I can't feed milk at the same time but could use a water
sub
Thanks for the advice on shots. I usually give 1 cc pen and1/2cc of excenel
once a day and if they are really bad another dose of penn in the evening. I
do this for 3 - 5 days depending on how sick. It normally is a great fix. I
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>Hello, just wondering if anyone else is experiencing this . Today it was 70
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>for several days at the early side of the due date I have. They are very
>small but strong. What is the deal. Just bad luck and good weather?
I know that there have been alot of new people join the list and this is
just a note to them: When you bottle feed lambs make sure you use just warm
milk not to hot. The extra warm milk gives babies scours. I sometimes forget
this myself thinking of momma's milk being so warm . Also something to
I am sure many of you read the add for free sheep in Kansas. We made
arrangements to pick them up Sunday. And were going to pay for them. Well
after driving 7 1/2 hours through storms etc. When my husband arrived they
were in a very large lot with no way to catch them. The folks thought they
wo
>Good morning, my husband found one of my favorite jacob sheep ewes caught
>in a fence this morning. I don't know how long she was there maybe
>overnight. She has a wound on her leg just above the ankle area which I put
>a little pennicillian on and also sprayed with iodine. I gave her a tetnus
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Hello, Does anyone know how long copper stays in the ground and comes up in
the grass? We have a chance to put our sheep out on some grass that had hogs
on it about 7 - 10 years ago. Will the copper still be coming up in it? Just
want an opinion doesn't have to be fact. Nancy
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Hello. I just recieved this off another list I belong to. thought it may
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Hello, We had a jacob do something simulair last year. Our vet thought it
was like a heat scald like babies get. He lost wool on the back of his hip
and leg. I kept spraying with fly repell spray and gave him some penn for a
couple of days,. It slowly growed back out just fine and you couldn't t
Hello does anyone know can you apply permithian fly spray directly onto
sheep and lambs? thanks nancy
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If your feed has whole oats they could be choking on it. We have had them
gobble down feed with alot of oats and the little burr on it sticks in their
throat. They drool and choke and jump. I did loose one young one who foamed
and I couldn't do a thing for it. It got the foam in its lungs and di
Hello, We use cattle cydectin not sheep. Our vet says that the sheep isn't
strong enough. Use the cattle orally at a rate of 1 cc per 20 pounds. This
give 2 .5 of wormer where the other is only 1 per 11 pounds. It has worked
great for us the past couple of years. - We did use the sheep and lost
Hello, I recently had someone ask me if a lamb can be raised on cow milk. I
had to say I don't know but will find out. Any ideas? I would worry about
copper since cows ingest so much in their mineral etc. Thanks for the input
Nancy
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Hello, We use the cydectin for cattle oral it is purple all the time for our
sheep at the same rate. It does work great is and less expensive in the long
run. Also use penn if there is bottle jaw or any sign of stress to help stop
pnuemonia. It seems to creep in and kill fast if they are week fr
Well, when it comes to talking sheep I thought my were just weird. For the
most part ours only call out to their young lambs. But when it comes to my
bottle babies, the ones who stay really tame. They are something else! I can
call out to them and they will call back and generally start coming t
I have several ram lambs born this spring summer that I am looking to sell.
Also I have 2 bottle ewes that I am now feeding that are a little over a
month old. Both of them are for sale. They are kept inside right now so
would need to be aclimatized to your area.
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I read this on another site and thought that it might be of interest to some
who have questions about copper in sheep feed. Nancy
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Just heard this on the radio on a program called ag talk. They are now
trying to impliment a "permit: fee for every animal you own for the "Green
house " gas it emits. I believe every dairy cow is $85 per year, beef cow i
think they said $70 and pigs 60. They didn't mention sheep. but you know
Good morning I tried the link and put in an extra - inbetween R and docket
and it did not come back . Perhaps this was the problem. I heard it was
extended until Dec 15 with alot of the new comments going to be put on the
desk of the incoming officals. But who know's. Nancy.
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For those of you who like to look at ram photos I have started posting some
of our photos of rams born this year along with our herd sires. If anyone
is looking for a special color phase please give us a shout. We have over
50 rams born this past spring that we will be selling this upcoming year
For those of you who looked at the photos I should say that we sold
"WingNut" at the top of the page about 2 years ago when Junior came along
and was so beautiful. His horns are not quite as open as Wingnuts but if you
notice the horns on his grandson "Zaggy" are more like his. We have Up and
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Carol I don't know like you I have never castrated a black belly. We did
however one year band a couple of Tunis lambs for my sisters kids to show at
the fair. They were 2 months old and did just fine with the banding. So
maybe you could wait till they get bigger. Nancy
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Some of his lambs are pictured in various ways on our site.
www.freewebs.com/mossyspringsranch Just give us an email if interested.
Thanks for looking! Nancy & Tom Richardson
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Yes, I agree to them being flyty . I have alot of bottle rasing experience
(Over 30 each of the past 2 years). These babies are the smartest I have
ever seen! My Jacobs don't hold a candle to them once raised for the most
part. Even the ones who aren't bottled seem to be smarter when it comes to
The wormer blocks we have here are for cattle. We tried it but they don't
eat enough fast enough for it to do any good. It has safegaurd in it. Nancy
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Well, heres the story, Last spring I had triplets born, 2 rams and a
ewe so I thought. I bottle fed the ewe. She grew great horns and had
a mane! My husband kept saying are you sure its a ewe, finally I
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Hello I have a question perhaps someone else will have an answer for. I
found a twin lamb that had been left by mom perhaps 10 hours withought
colostrum. It then drank 4 oz. and will be eating more. Will this lamb have
a chance to make it or do you think it was to late? I never thought to look
I am raising almost a dozen lambs now. Different ages and reasons why. But
some of them only take 4 oz every 4 or 5 hours. And they are a week or more
old. I also dilute my milk a little bit making albout 18 - 20 oz instead of
the 16. This keeps away scours if they do over eat a little. I also h
I agree with 2 cycles. I have seen ewes bred for 2 days and then not have
lambs until the second cycle time. For some reason sometimes they just don't
settle. Nancy
How long are most folks leaving the ram in with the ewes to make sure
that
they have all (all = 5 to10 ewes in my case) been bre
I hate to promote a certain brand but I use Kent milk replacer. My lambs do
great! I have 21 now! The only catch is that I mix it at about 20oz of water
instead of 16. This makes it not so rich and give scours or bloat if they
happen to over eat just a little and also pepto will take care of it
Well , This is our first successful C Section!Always before we have had to
put the ewe down before the babies were ready. Last night right at dark we
had to put down a 2/3 year old BB ewe. She had been dealing with prolapse
for the last 2 1/2 weeks. The last few days my husband has had to help h
We use regular cattle wire all around but always make sure that when going
to catch & work them that we coax them into an area with a cattle panel or
higher fence. & we don't seem to have much problem. Although from time to
time a horn will get caught and we will have to get them out. These ew
I just want to let everyone know on the list that I will have some ewes for
sale as well as lambs even a bottle or two I think that are not spoken for.
Please contact me off list if interested. Also If anyone is in need of a ram
I have several that I am going to sell. Thanks Nancy Richardson
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I just want to let everyone know on the list that I will have some ewes
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sale as well as lambs even a bottle or two I think that are not spoken
for.
Please contact me off list if interested. Also If anyone is in need of a
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I have several that I am going to sell. Thanks Nancy Richardson
Hello, I know my jacobs are different but I have a question about a sick
lamb perhaps someone may have seen in their balckbellies. He is a bottle
baby first of all. About a month old. The first 2 weeks of his life he ate
like a pig! now for the last 2 weeks I have been lucky to get 5 ounces of
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Yes, They charge $15 at macon to sell each lamb in their auction.I am only
a little over an hour away so its not to bad for just a couple of days. I
also sell some of my bigger rams there so this is why I get to sell in the
swap bottle babies and they are priced at $125 or so each depending on s
If she were mine I .would give her Pen g twice a day about 6cc and do it
for 5 days I would also give her probiotics to keep rumen in check but that
would just be for my sheep. and is just my opinion. I would maybe call a vet
to check for sure. Nancy
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We are in MIssouri and bought ewes out of Arizona so I would think they
would be okay. Just need watered . Nancy
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Sorry to hear about the large loss. We don't have a dog either. But find
that fireworks work really well to scare off the coyotes when they start
howling really close. The loud noise bothers them but we have found that
dogs and especially dogs that are used buy hunters and around gun fire are
n
Hello, I see that Ron is going to be going through missouri on his next trip
if anyone is interested in a ram lamb or ewe from our flock we would be
happy to meet him at a convient point so as to save mileage. To see our
linage before inquiring you can visit our website
www.freewebs.com/mossysp
I have a bottle jacob ram lamb it is only the size of a 6 week old but is
almost 3 months. His wool is bad and he is boney. I have wormed him etc. He
is still being bottled because of his bad health. He started getting scours
when he was about 3 weeks old and gets them periodically. They are a
Thanks for the update on your lamb she sounds like she is doing really well.
When I wean I generally cut the milk concentrate first along with a little
less the amount per feeding so that they desire to eat more. Then go for the
less time and less milk etc. It normally take me about 3 weeks to w
Hi ! Had a lady call me that is looking for a small possible bottle baby ewe
in northwest Ark. or Oklahoma. Anyone out there have such a thing? Thanks
Nancy
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Hello, I bottle raised a jacob with my hair sheep. a couple of months after
weaning I penned her with the jacobs again some he age some ewes. They hated
her! hit her etc. I left her for about a week thinking they would bond
eventually. Nope! Then I put her back with her original buddies. They
h
For those of you who like to look at photos I have posted a new photo of a
group of our Trophy type rams under our page Rams Galore. They would all
make good herd sires. They all have great temperments as well as horns if
you like the open look. Thanks for looking! Nancy
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Peter they may be only lawn mowers but they are cuties! Love those tails!
Blackbellies make great pets especially if bottle raised and/or given alot
of attention and love when small. We raise about 20 or 30 babies of
different breeds on our farm each year and I hate to sell them! But now that
o
I had a ewe that broke her leg just below the knew I couldn't get a splint
on it but penned her in a hut. Fed watered etc for about a month. She did
just fine. It took her a while to trust enough to walk on it but she is up
and running good. She was bred just shortly after I let her out and she
Well, I must have the noisy sheep of all. Mine love to talk! my husnband
says it gets so annoying!. If I have a ewe that is given a little extra when
she is alone. she then comes to the fence and cries everytime someone goes
out. She wan't a bottle baby either She now has 6wk old twins and when
I do the same with about 150 girls with my ram running year round. If a girl
comes in he will run the babies off. This normally occurs at about 6 weeks.
Good luck Nancy
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I had a ram with anemia a couple of years ago that I had bought and our vet
said not to give more than 2cc of B complex and then repeat in 2 weeks he
said any more and it would cause his body to not produce the vitamins
itself. Does anyone know anything about this? Nancy
We have line bred for about 5 years to get the horn traits that we want. We
started with Wingnut bred him to his daughters once. Then took a son
"Junior" and bred him to those first of his dads which were basically his
sisters and then the young ones. We did this twice and then used a son of
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We have line bred for about 5 years to get the horn traits that we want.
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started with Wingnut bred him to his daughters once. Then took a son
"Junior" and br
we are in Missouri and feed year round basically. We put out mineral tubs
from Kent and Kent loose mineral in old pig feeders that we have raised so
that the sheep can eat from them and not step or mess in it and it stay dry.
This and a salt block out along with good hay and some grain when its
I bottle raise quite a few rams. I haven't had one get agressive yet. I
put them in with other rams at about 3 -4 months of age. Or group them all
together. When this happens they tend to go back to their wild state for
the most part. Some remain easy to catch while others wouldn't come near.
I have several bottle lambs now that are about 6 months or so old in with
other rams. 1t comes up to me the other wants to climb on me when I go in
the pen. Like everyone says. You have to show who is boss. I put him down
and say "No " firmly generally grabbing his horns which everyone knows t
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Good morning everyone I have a problem this morning I found where a second
ewe couldn't clean the bag off a baby. It was really thick and tough.
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