RE: [BlindHandyMan] speaking of thermostats

2009-08-10 Thread Darrin Porter
A digital thermostat does not draw power from the A/C unit. It runs on batteries. Darrin Darrin Porter Senior Technical Engineer United Ocean Services, L.L.C. 601 South Harbour Island Boulevard, Suite 230 Tampa, Florida 33602 (813) 209-4247 (office) (813) 744-0011 (cellular phone) (813)

Re: [BlindHandyMan] speaking of thermostats

2009-08-10 Thread Dan Rossi
I use the Energizer e2 Lithium batteries in everything now. These are not Lithium ion batteries and are not rechargeable, but they last for ever. It is truly impressive how long they last. I can't even remember the last time I put batteries in my thermostat. -- Blue skies. Dan Rossi

Re: [BlindHandyMan] installing a ceiling fan-the tricky part

2009-08-10 Thread Dan Rossi
Scott, Thank you so very much for your original post describing your ceiling fan project. I will be sending it off to my wife to show her that I am not alone in project issues. Your description matches my experiences word for word. Starting a project thinking it can't be that difficult.

RE: [BlindHandyMan] installing a ceiling fan-the tricky part

2009-08-10 Thread Darrin Porter
Scott, My long drill bit (6-ft.) drills a ¾-in. hole. I have used it to drill through three wall studs. That was a pain, but I managed to get it done without punching out of the wall. It has a very sharp pilot point on the tip which I can stab into each stud in turn. It will not slip

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2009-08-10 Thread David Ferrin
David Ferrin www.jaws-users.com VIP Conduit Tech Support www.vipconduit.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Re: [BlindHandyMan] installing a ceiling fan-the tricky part

2009-08-10 Thread Scott Howell
You bet, always glad to share experiences. After all, my wife for as much as I love the woman, sometimes just doesn't see the end result when compared against the effort to get there and assumes there shouldn't be a lot of cleanup or potential painting to be done once I've made the mess.

Re: [BlindHandyMan] installing a ceiling fan-the tricky part

2009-08-10 Thread Scott Howell
Well if I had the sense to think this through, I would have saved some holez. THanks for the tip for my next project. The only problem is I would have needed to make one hole close to the area where the switch was. I had no idea how to fish the wire up the wall, into the hole, and than

Re: [BlindHandyMan]

2009-08-10 Thread jim
hi David i hear that last message from you was written in invisible jaws ink Jim [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Re: [BlindHandyMan]

2009-08-10 Thread David Ferrin
Sorry folks, that message got away from me. I was rejecting an in-appropriate post. David Ferrin www.jaws-users.com VIP Conduit Tech Support www.vipconduit.com - Original Message - From: David Ferrin d...@jaws-users.com To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009

RE: [BlindHandyMan] installing a ceiling fan-the tricky part

2009-08-10 Thread Darrin Porter
Can't say that I do other than a well-trained mouse! I've never lived / worked in a two-story house and never thought about some of the potential challenges until your post. I did live in a garage apartment once, but it was one that I built myself and I made sure that I could access the area

Re: [BlindHandyMan] speaking of thermostats

2009-08-10 Thread chiliblindman
I'm not sure what thermostats you are talking about that operate off a battery. There are some that require a battery to hold a schedule or it can't be used. Most thermostats operate on the power supplied by the fan-coil or furnace. The same power is sent to the AC unit to operate all

RE: [BlindHandyMan] speaking of thermostats

2009-08-10 Thread Darrin Porter
Bob, I am now on my third digital thermostat and I can assure you that they have all run off of AA batteries. The first two were not programmable, but my current one (the VIP) is. I wish it was not the case. When the batteries fail, about once every 18 months or so, the display goes blank

Re: [BlindHandyMan] speaking of thermostats

2009-08-10 Thread chiliblindman
What for make and model do you have and what is it operating? I would almost have to think that maybe something isn't quite right unless it operates a non-electric gas furnace that doesn't use a fan to circulate the heat or a fireplace type unit. .bob [Non-text portions of

Re: [BlindHandyMan] speaking of thermostats

2009-08-10 Thread chiliblindman
Darrin, I have had the same digital thermostat for over 15 years now at least, it does not require batteries to run or maintain memory of how it is programmed. It operates from the low voltage (24) supplied from my air handler. It will shut down when brown-out voltage conditions exist and

Re: [BlindHandyMan] speaking of thermostats

2009-08-10 Thread Dan Rossi
Bob, At least on the talking thermostats, I believe the batteries run all the stuff that make them a talking thermostat, plus keep the programming. I seriously doubt you need four double a batteries just to keep memory. -- Blue skies. Dan Rossi Carnegie Mellon University. E-Mail:

RE: [BlindHandyMan] speaking of thermostats

2009-08-10 Thread Darrin Porter
Bob, I am running a 3.5 ton R-410A A/C unit with heat pump. I live in Florida, so don't have much use for a furnace or serious heating system. Up until I bought my house in 2005, I always had a mercury-switch type thermostat that required no batteries. As a matter of fact, I didn't know

Re: [BlindHandyMan] speaking of thermostats

2009-08-10 Thread chiliblindman
Dan, I suspect on the VIP and other speech therms the batteries are all for the speech operated portion and the rest would be standard hardware and interfaces. .bob [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Re: [BlindHandyMan] speaking of thermostats

2009-08-10 Thread chiliblindman
Darrin, when you stated that this is your third one and that the display went blank when the battery went dead it all sounded kind of strange to me. I can understand maybe the speech part not working with dead batteries, not the thermostat. I never used a speech VIP therm so you could be

Re: [BlindHandyMan] installing a ceiling fan-the tricky part

2009-08-10 Thread Spiro
keep the dust from migrating in the air. Most minimal clean room application. This is why the drop cloth for a blind painter is a real pain. Just step in that which the drop cloth is meant to do, and then keep walking and you've *blown it! Grumble grumble. But even a drop cloth before a doorway

[BlindHandyMan] building a house

2009-08-10 Thread Shane Hecker
I'm planning to build a house in a few months. This question will likely invite some debate, which I think is good. If you wanted to build a house as energy efficient as possible, without breaking the bank, how would you do it? To make things simpler (or perhaps more difficult), there is a

Re: [BlindHandyMan] building a house

2009-08-10 Thread john schwery
Build an earth home. But, you might need a hill side for that. earlier, Shane Hecker, wrote: I'm planning to build a house in a few months. This question will likely invite some debate, which I think is good. If you wanted to build a house as energy efficient as possible, without breaking the

Re: [BlindHandyMan] building a house

2009-08-10 Thread Shane Hecker
I'm in south texas. There are no hills to speak of. I heard of someone building an adobe house in this area, but have no idea how well it would stand to a category 5 hurricane. Shane - Original Message - From: john schwery To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday,

[BlindHandyMan] sand paper grades

2009-08-10 Thread carl
i heard some one refer to flower paper is thair sutch a thing or was he probabley thinking of wet and dry? [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[BlindHandyMan] building a house

2009-08-10 Thread Geno
If my brother Lee was still on this list. He would tell you those dome homes and thinking that would cover what you are worried about Geno

Re: [BlindHandyMan] speaking of thermostats

2009-08-10 Thread Brice
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] building a house

2009-08-10 Thread Peter Mikochik
will you be doing the work yourself?

Re: [BlindHandyMan] building a house

2009-08-10 Thread Shane Hecker
Most of it. I'd be willing to let someone else do the exterior, but I want to do the interior stuff. Shane - Original Message - From: Peter Mikochik To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 7:15 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] building a house

Re: [BlindHandyMan] building a house

2009-08-10 Thread Dale Leavens
the budget is not relevant without knowing the size or sophistication of the fixtures and fittings. Beyond that there are a huge number of things to consider. In south Texas it is cooling which will be the big cost. you want to start with orientation of the building to things like the sun. You

Re: [BlindHandyMan] building a house

2009-08-10 Thread Shane Hecker
I thought about building the exterior wals with a combination of nail base and concrete, but this may be overkill. For those that don't know what I'm talking about, nail base is a structural insulated panel that does not have a skin on one side. Rather, it has the skin, then foam. You could

Re: [BlindHandyMan] building a house

2009-08-10 Thread Dale Leavens
First you must decide what properties you want the exterior to have then find the materials which provide those properties. It sounds to me like you are allowing your imagination to be captured by some or other idea or material and then adjusting your thinking to the method or material.

Re: [BlindHandyMan] building a house

2009-08-10 Thread Lee A. Stone
who said I was off the list? ha. ha. and if I found the perfect piece of property and if I was to rebuilt it would be a dome home as I have a very good friend who is tickled pink with her place which sees many climate changes similar to what we have in the northeast.. another place I

RE: [BlindHandyMan] installing a ceiling fan-the tricky part

2009-08-10 Thread Tom Vos
Scott, Occasionally I've been able to fish wires through from opposite directions, with hooks on the end and hook them together and pull one all the way through. But in your application, I think I'd make a hole in the ceiling above the switch and do a patch job later. But if the remote control

Re: [BlindHandyMan] building a house

2009-08-10 Thread Shane Hecker
Aransas Pass is where I'm building. Shane - Original Message - From: Dale Leavens To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 8:23 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] building a house First you must decide what properties you want the exterior to have

Re: [BlindHandyMan] speaking of thermostats

2009-08-10 Thread Max Robinson
The wiring that comes to those little round Honeywell thermostats only has one side of the transformer. When I replaced mine with a home made electronic thermostat I had to connect up the other side. Fortunately there was an unused wire in the cable so there was no problem. A wire nut was

Re: [BlindHandyMan] building a house

2009-08-10 Thread Max Robinson
Use 2 by 6 studs and put in R19 insulation in the walls. R40 in the attic. Regards. Max. K 4 O D S. Email: m...@maxsmusicplace.com Transistor site http://www.funwithtransistors.net Vacuum tube site: http://www.funwithtubes.net Music site: http://www.maxsmusicplace.com To subscribe to the

Re: [BlindHandyMan] building a house

2009-08-10 Thread Dale Leavens
Sub standard. R30 at least in the walls but equally important is a contiguous sealed air barrier. - Original Message - From: Max Robinson To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 11:10 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] building a house Use 2 by 6

Re: [BlindHandyMan] building a house

2009-08-10 Thread Max Robinson
Things do keep advancing, don't they. Regards. Max. K 4 O D S. Email: m...@maxsmusicplace.com Transistor site http://www.funwithtransistors.net Vacuum tube site: http://www.funwithtubes.net Music site: http://www.maxsmusicplace.com To subscribe to the fun with tubes group send an email to,

Re: [BlindHandyMan] building a house

2009-08-10 Thread Dale Leavens
Well, you are only about 15 feet above sea level so the water table may be very close to the surface. Geothermal is probably a good choice for heating and cooling. I imagine most construction there would be on slab so insulating under it and making a good air tight seal with the walls would be

Re: [BlindHandyMan] building a house

2009-08-10 Thread Dale Leavens
Well, insulation is relatively cheap particularly if it is designed for in new construction. I don't suppose building codes require it yet and a lot depends on weather you design for the heating and cooling plant or the other way around. There are other significant considerations too, size and