Hi,
On 2011-05-12 at 18:15 +0200, Andras Timar wrote:
Kendy will try to fix them
tomorrow. If he can't fix them, then somebody else needs to help.
Pushed what I was able to do today - svg filter building, most of oox
too, but not fully yet. Any help appreciated.
Regards,
Kendy
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Hi Peter,
On 2011-07-20 at 16:26 +0100, Tom Davies wrote:
my name is Peter Kubek and I am from Slovak republic.
I am owner domain www.libreoffice.sk
Can I work on slovak site? sk.libreoffice.org?
So I think the best would be to contact the Slovak mailing lists
directly:
Hi Florian, all,
Florian Effenberger píše v Čt 24. 10. 2013 v 16:34 +0200:
so, as the nomination phase is open, let me start by sending in the
first nomination. :-)
I would like to nominate Jan Holešovský for the board elections. Kendy,
a name many of you know, has been active in the
Hi all,
I would like to announce my candidacy to the Membership Committee of The
Document Foundation.
The Membership Committee is an important part of the structure of TDF,
and I would like to serve there, to maintain the high standard, and
diversity that we have among members.
I already have
archived.
I, Jan Holesovsky, elected member of the Membership Committee of The
Document Foundation, hereby accept this position.
Signed: Jan Holesovsky
All the best,
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Dear Members,
I would like to stand for elections to the Board of Directors of The
Document Foundation.
I am Jan Holešovský, 38 years old, married, father of two girls, living
in the Czech Republic. Many people know me under my nickname "Kendy".
I work for Collabora as Engineering Manager.
In
Hi,
I, Jan Holešovský, elected member of the Board of The Document
Foundation, hereby and until further notice, nominate the following
deputies to represent me during board calls, in the order set forth
below:
1. Deputy Norbert Thiebaud
2. Deputy Bjoern Michaelsen
3. Deputy Andreas Mantke
Dear TDF Members,
I, Jan Holešovský, hereby resign from The Document Foundation Membership
Committee, effective immediately.
Thank you for the trust you had in me when you elected me into the
Membership committee - and thank you once again for electing me into the
Board recently; which is also
Hi Italo,
Italo Vignoli píše v Po 22. 05. 2017 v 17:06 +0200:
> I will fly to Tirana in early June (9 to 12 of June) for a two day
> workshop, to go through the migration and the training protocols with
> the local team, and train them on LibreOffice and ODF. I will also try
> to understand if
Hi Italo,
Thorsten Behrens píše v Čt 04. 05. 2017 v 23:46 +0200:
> > Unfortunately, travel cost to Taiwan are not negligible. At the moment
> > the combination between flight ticket and accommodation is around 1,400
> > Euro. Based on these figures, I ask for approval of the expense (being
> >
Dear Members,
I would like to stand for elections to the Board of Directors of The
Document Foundation.
I am Jan Holešovský, 40 years old, married, father of two girls, living
in the Czech Republic. Many people know me under my nickname "Kendy".
I work for Collabora as an Engineering Manager.
Dear all,
I, Jan Holesovsky, elected Deputy Director of the Board of The Document
Foundation, hereby accept this position within the Stiftung
bürgerlichen Rechts "The Document Foundation". My term will start
February 18, 2018.
Signed: Jan Holesovsky
Ich, Jan Holesovsky, gewähl
Dear Members,
I would like to stand for elections to the Board of Directors of The
Document Foundation again.
I am Jan Holešovský, known as "Kendy" to many, 42 years old, married,
father of two girls, living in the Czech Republic. I work for
Collabora as an Engineering Manager, but also hack
Hi all,
Marina Latini píše v Po 30. 09. 2019 v 12:12 +0200:
> The following vote was proposed during the last meeting:
>
> -
>The Board RESOLVES to start creation of The Document
> Collective
> (TDC) by taking the following acts:
Hi Florian,
Florian Effenberger píše v Út 13. 10. 2020 v 16:36 +0200:
> In the meeting: Franklin Weng (board), Thorsten Behrens (board)
> Michael Meeks (board), Emiliano Vavassori (board),
> Cor Nouws (board), Italo Vignoli, Ilmari
> Lauhakangas,
>
Hi Marco,
Thank you for your questions!
There has been a lot of positive changes regarding the Online in the
last year; like that the CODE docker images have no limits of users or
documents any more; that the documentation is freely available to
anyone at
https://sdk.collaboraonline.com/ ;
Dear Members,
I would like to stand for elections to the Board of Directors of The
Document Foundation (again).
I am Jan Holešovský, known as "Kendy" to many, 44 years old, married,
father of two girls, living in the Czech Republic. I work for
Collabora as an Engineering Manager, but still love
Dear Marina, all,
I, Jan Holešovský, elected director of the board of The Document
Foundation, hereby accept this position within the Stiftung
bürgerlichen Rechts. My term will start February 18, 2022.
Signed: Jan Holešovský
Ich, Jan Holešovský, gewähltes Mitglied des Vorstands der The
Hi Stephan,
Stephan Ficht píše v Čt 10. 02. 2022 v 12:30 +0100:
> wrt the subject line and reading through this thread comes in my
> mind:
>
> "contributors of code" is subset of "contributors of anything" is
> subset
> of "community" is subset of TDF to fulfill its written objectives.
Thank
Hi Stephan,
Stephan Ficht píše v Čt 10. 02. 2022 v 14:28 +0100:
> Yeah, on the one hand it's satisfaction, and from my POV dealing
> with
> donors nearly every day, on the other hand, and in many cases, it's
> even
> an incentive, a support, and an expectation to improve what the wide
>
Hi Lothar,
Lothar K. Becker píše v Čt 10. 02. 2022 v 11:12 +0100:
> It was one of my first and foremost task as chair - and let me add it
> was hard time consuming work - that everybody was heard and could
> speak, it is simply not true, that contributors wasn't heard.
I am sorry, I didn't
Hi Regis,
Regis Perdreau píše v Čt 10. 02. 2022 v 11:21 +0100:
> Some parts of LibreOffice are not covered by the ecosystem...
> Although we sometimes have customers who ask for improvements :
If you talk about customers - it sounds like there is a company willing
to pay to fix those. With my
Hi Florian, all,
Florian Effenberger píše v Pá 04. 03. 2022 v 13:30 +0100:
> as discussed in https://listarchives.tdf.io/i/nUXiQDLatIR_Od6g63A08xU
> 3
> and in the last board call, the following VOTE is proposed on the
> recently published draft update to the CoI policy [1], to modify our
>
Hi Paolo,
Paolo Vecchi píše v Po 14. 03. 2022 v 17:07 +0100:
> I have to agree with you that the process seems to be too cumbersome
> and
> it would very likely lead to the end of the project, so may as well
> delete it, or to forks that will never come back.
Interestingly when I've read the
Hi Paolo,
Paolo Vecchi píše v Út 15. 02. 2022 v 17:09 +0100:
> > And to conclude: the easiest way to convince me (and likely others)
> > on
> > the board that a proposal is a good idea - is to make your case
> > properly with a well-researched writeup.
>
> Could you please forward to me the
Hi Thorsten, all,
Thorsten Behrens píše v Út 15. 02. 2022 v 19:17 +0100:
> there's another update to the board CoI policy now in draft status,
> I've uploaded it with enabled change tracking here:
>
> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/images/e/e5/BoD_Conflict_of_Inte
>
Hi Paolo,
Paolo Vecchi píše v St 16. 02. 2022 v 11:16 +0100:
> It would be great if members of the board of directors, with their
> TDF
> hat on, would explain clearly why they seem to be opposed to
> employing
> in-house developers.
I have never said I am opposed (and never said I'm
Hi all,
I, Jan Holešovský, elected member of the Board of Directors of
The Document Foundation, hereby and until further notice, nominate the
following deputies to represent me during board calls and meetings, in
the order set forth below:
1. Gabriel Masei
2. Gábor Kelemen
3. Ayhan Yalçınsoy
Hi Paolo,
Paolo Vecchi píše v St 16. 02. 2022 v 15:04 +0100:
> Is the "plan" a bit clearer for you now?
Thank you, sounds much more positive this way.
I'd still call it more an "outline" than a "plan", but I can see
potential for the development mentoring in that too, so I can imagine
we can
Hi Paolo,
Paolo Vecchi píše v Pá 11. 02. 2022 v 16:11 +0100:
> As I started the proposal I'm very happy to work with Sophie and
> Hossein
> to complement the proposal with the useful feedback we received in
> this
> thread.
Perfect, I am looking forward to an ODT that we can then collectively
Hi Ilmari,
Thank you for your answers, lots of great stuff! Just two notes:
Ilmari Lauhakangas píše v So 12. 02. 2022 v 23:30 +0200:
> > * How to make sure they don't compete with other open source
> > projects,
> >or the ecosystem companies?
>
> Trust the more experienced staff members
Hi Andreas,
Andreas Mantke píše v Po 14. 02. 2022 v 15:29 +0100:
> but maybe it would be great, if you could stop to pick on someone.
>
> It seemed your only intention on this topic is to control (with your
> non-TDF-hat on) everything.
>
> That is not a cooperative behavior.
I've told it in
Jan Holesovsky píše v Čt 24. 03. 2022 v 20:07 +0100:
> > calling for an email VOTE on the below final version of the Attic
> > Proposal. The vote runs for 72 hours, starting now.
>
> Thank you for this effort, +1 from me.
Oops, meant to +1 from this email address :-)
[Sorr
Hi Andreas,
Andreas Mantke píše v Čt 24. 03. 2022 v 21:24 +0100:
> > • Any repositories inside it will be made “read only”, so no “push”
> > or
> >“pull request” mechanisms will be available: this allows changes
> > to
> >the code to be shared as it was the last time it was
> >
Hi Thorsten & Emiliano, all,
Thorsten Behrens píše v Čt 24. 03. 2022 v 00:20 +0100:
> calling for an email VOTE on the below final version of the Attic
> Proposal. The vote runs for 72 hours, starting now.
Thank you for this effort, +1 from me.
All the best,
Kendy
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Hi Sophie,
sophi píše v Po 28. 03. 2022 v 21:55 +0200:
> Would that mean that each time a l10n team resign for whatever
> reason
> (UK currently in my mind and heart), it will be atticized and need
> at
> least 3 contributors who use something else than Weblate to
> demonstrate
> their
Hi all,
Paolo Vecchi píše v Po 07. 02. 2022 v 19:16 +0100:
> Enable TDF to contribute more code to LibreOffice with in-house
> developers to address our donors specific needs
My candidacy statement was much more focused on the community growth;
so I'd like to propose a different vision:
TDF
Hi Paolo,
Paolo Vecchi píše v St 09. 02. 2022 v 15:09 +0100:
> The community and our valuable members of the ecosystem have been
> asking us to invest more in development
It is important to understand that "community" means "contributors"; as
opposed to "users". "Users" are not part of the
Hi Daniel,
Daniel A. Rodriguez píše v Út 08. 02. 2022 v 19:31 -0300:
> I think Andreas hits the nail on the head when he mentions that in
> other
> projects no company dominates the project or the community.
The contrary is true: Most of the successful open source projects have
a major,
Hi Italo,
Awesome, thank you so much for the summary!
All the best,
Kendy
Italo Vignoli píše v Čt 10. 02. 2022 v 15:27 +0100:
> On 2/10/22 14:56, Jan Holesovsky wrote:
>
> > Comes to my mind - as you deal with the donors daily, and
> > particularly
> > ask them
Hi Andreas,
Andreas Mantke píše v St 09. 02. 2022 v 19:58 +0100:
> once I read this sentences the first time, I thought I was in a
> different film in 2010. But maybe I didn't understand the situation
> in OOo project at that time.
I may be wrong, it is a long time ago, but from what I
Hi Italo,
Italo Vignoli píše v Čt 10. 02. 2022 v 16:31 +0100:
> Yes, but it looks like the discussion is blocked one step before
> reaching a consensus on this very simple point. If the discussion
> stays
> as such, I have to say that I don't feel I am represented - as a TDF
> Member - by any
Hi Paolo,
Paolo Vecchi píše v St 09. 02. 2022 v 19:56 +0100:
> He asked himself quite a few interesting questions:
> "Without sharing too much, there are some moral questions popping up
> for
> me. Who owns the community? Who owns ownCloud itself? And what
> matters
> more, short term money or
Hi Andreas,
Andreas Mantke píše v Pá 08. 04. 2022 v 17:38 +0200:
> there is no such document, which collects all answers.
I see, so all this was a "you have to believe me because I say so" from
the very start.
> E.g. I'd expect you wouldn't find it usual, if an employee (e.g. from
> Collabora)
Hello,
Thorsten Behrens píše v Út 12. 04. 2022 v 18:44 +0200:
> having discussed this and incorporated your feedback, calling for a
> vote, to:
>
> * ratify attached best practices as current board communication
> guidelines
> (verbatim copy from
>
Hi Andreas,
Andreas Mantke píše v St 06. 04. 2022 v 18:11 +0200:
> > Suppose you were in the Board with me as a deputy, I was missing in
> > a
> > meeting, and you were to represent me.
> >
> > Are you suddenly becoming a Collabora employee or contractor or
> > affiliate in any other way? Or
Hi Andreas,
Andreas Mantke píše v Čt 07. 04. 2022 v 16:56 +0200:
> > Applying the above, the CoI'd deputy is not CoI'd any more when
> > representing the non-CoI'd director, correct?
>
> No, because the reprenting deputy has the CoI in his person and could
> not drop that.
I see, thank you!
Hi Andreas,
Andreas Mantke píše v St 06. 04. 2022 v 17:05 +0200:
> b) It doesn't help, if a deputy board member tries to jump in for a
> board member, because it represents the board member (with all
> consequences including CoI). If the member is not able to vote (e.g.
> because of CoI), there
Hi Paolo,
Paolo Vecchi píše v Pá 27. 05. 2022 v 10:58 +0200:
> Hiring-another-mentor-controlled-by-ESC-v1.0.odt is probably a more
> indicated name for that new proposal.
Hiring: yes.
another-mentor: no; the proposal clearly says the primary role is
development.
+ The secondary mentoring
Hi all,
Paolo Vecchi píše v Po 30. 05. 2022 v 13:44 +0200:
> After having read the other proposal I have integrated some minor
> changes into v 2.1 that you can find here:
>
> https://nextcloud.documentfoundation.org/s/sFtCk9wiMWbt2pB
>
> Some of the changes implemented:
> - added that TDF
Hi Michael,
Michael Weghorn píše v So 28. 05. 2022 v 21:21 +:
> I think having Paolo's original proposal and this one in a form
> that's
> easy to compare is very helpful.
Thank you!
> After reading the discussion on the mailing list, I was surprised
> that
> the overall direction still
Hi Paolo,
Paolo Vecchi píše v Po 30. 05. 2022 v 13:44 +0200:
> While TDF is committed
> to working with members of the commercial ecosystem in a mutually
> beneficial relationship it should be made clear that third parties
> and
> suppliers (commercial contributors) should not limit what a
>
Hi all,
Paolo Vecchi píše v St 25. 05. 2022 v 16:03 +0200:
> Could you please at least rename the file so that people don't get
> confused?
Good idea, Paolo, thank you. The new version that merges the proposals
is in:
https://nextcloud.documentfoundation.org/f/960049
as
Hi all,
Paolo Vecchi píše v St 25. 05. 2022 v 16:03 +0200:
> Could you please at least rename the file so that people don't get
> confused?
Good idea, Paolo, thank you. The new version that merges the proposals
is in:
https://nextcloud.documentfoundation.org/f/960049
as
Hi Andreas,
Andreas Mantke píše v Út 31. 05. 2022 v 19:49 +0200:
> I'd be curious to know what would be (from the point of TDF's mission
> /
> statutes) the difference between working on the source code by in-
> house
> developers and by tendering and paying a commercial company for doing
> this
Hi Paolo,
Paolo Vecchi píše v Út 31. 05. 2022 v 16:30 +0200:
> That is not a merged proposal is simply another proposal and what
> you
> are doing is only generating confusion.
Does that mean that you have no interest in trying to find a middle
ground, and that we should decide for one or the
Hi Andreas,
Andreas Mantke píše v St 01. 06. 2022 v 17:23 +0200:
> Am 01.06.22 um 11:11 schrieb Jan Holesovsky:
> >
> > The difference is that once you hire a developer / developers, the
> > development becomes a mandatory expense - TDF has to pay their wage
> > ever
Hi Paolo,
Paolo Vecchi píše v Čt 12. 05. 2022 v 14:29 +0200:
> I have received no additional constructive feedback from the board
> since
> the last published version so I assume that the proposal will be
> promptly approved as a new strategic project and the team will be
> kindly
> asked to
Hi Ilmari,
Ilmari Lauhakangas píše v Po 23. 05. 2022 v 20:08 +0300:
> > * Hire a Targeted Developer, with primary focus on mentoring
>
> If mentoring is put in the center, it seriously limits the pool of
> applicants. Most devs who could apply will simply skip it. We know
> this
> from the
Hi Paolo,
Paolo Vecchi píše v St 25. 05. 2022 v 12:13 +0200:
> I've been waiting for Kendy to propose improvements for the past 3
> months but I'm yet to receive some.
I see - I was waiting for the Board Working group being set up, as was
proposed by Emiliano, and as seemed to me as the agreed
Hi Paolo,
Paolo Vecchi píše v St 25. 05. 2022 v 13:41 +0200:
> Michael Meeks made a completely different proposal to employ a
> mentor.
That is not my reading of the proposal.
Also what I like about the proposal is that it addresses my questions I
had wrt. the tasking and management; where
Hello,
Jan Holesovsky píše v St 25. 05. 2022 v 14:18 +0200:
> To me it seems like those two proposals can be merged together to
> create something good for TDF, if there is a will for that. And
> there is from my side.
And to show I mean it, I've converted the document to an editabl
Hi Andreas,
Andreas Mantke píše v So 25. 06. 2022 v 00:05 +0200:
> FYI: I wrote a short blog post about my work. And for those who like
> visuals, I added two ones.
>
> https://amantke.de/2022/06/25/work-on-revival-of-libreoffice-online/
Thank you for sharing that!
Seeing the pictures, you
Hi Paolo, all,
Paolo Vecchi píše v St 22. 06. 2022 v 16:49 +0200:
> as finally many of the changes requested by other proposals are clear
> I've integrated what makes sense to have on a
> developers recruitment proposal and added a few items clarifying
> some aspect in version 2.2 (in ODF
Hi Paolo,
Paolo Vecchi píše v Po 27. 06. 2022 v 17:58 +0200:
> The differences are not that many apart from those that I could not
> accept as they impose limitations that have no place in an
> employment
> proposal.
>
> In the document v. 2.3 you just merged back the issues that will
> cause
Hi Simon,
Simon Phipps píše v Pá 03. 06. 2022 v 09:59 +0100:
> On Fri, Jun 3, 2022 at 7:51 AM Ilmari Lauhakangas <
> ilmari.lauhakan...@libreoffice.org> wrote:
> > Tendering and in-house development are not interchangeable, but
> > they are
> > interlinked. Keep in mind that the in-house devs
Hi Michael,
Thank you for the feedback! I've updated the document accordingly, see
below:
Michael Weghorn píše v Út 07. 06. 2022 v 14:07 +:
> > Please don't get me wrong - I believe the appstores is an important
> > discussion, just don't want to block the hiring on that; as I think
> > it
Hi Andreas,
Andreas Mantke píše v Čt 09. 06. 2022 v 20:48 +0200:
> this confirms that TDF has payed a part of the Android and Online
> development from donation money.
Interestingly, I don't recall any of the Collabora Productivity clients
(even proprietary companies) ever complaining that the
Hello,
Caolán McNamara píše v St 08. 06. 2022 v 15:45 +0100:
> On Wed, 2022-06-08 at 11:44 +0200, Florian Effenberger wrote:
> > happy to update the vote template if the board is fine with that.
> >
> > All board members are on this list, so we can gather some feedback.
>
> Yeah, I'm content to
Hi Andreas,
Andreas Mantke píše v Ne 05. 06. 2022 v 19:12 +0200:
> If I remember correctly TDF has paid a big part of work on the basics
> of
> LOOL. And maybe some former / current board member recognize which
> company was paid for that work from donation money.
Interestingly I cannot
Hi Andreas,
Andreas Mantke píše v Čt 02. 06. 2022 v 18:34 +0200:
> But seriously: you behave in a way which is unworthy for a leader of
> an
> OSS project. The TDF community consists not only from TDF members.
> And
> you denigrate all participants which are not TDF member. This damages
> the
Hi Alex, Adolfo, all,
Thank you for the pointers to the bugreports!
More inline:
Alexander Thurgood píše v St 15. 06. 2022 v 10:26 +0200:
> It is neither a question of overblowing or "paranoia", (thanks for
> the
> gratuitous comment by the way, in tdf#147130), but I raised the issue
> as
>
Hi Alex,
Alexander Thurgood píše v Út 14. 06. 2022 v 09:52 +0200:
> I have reported a number of bugs against Collabora Productivity in
> the LibreOffice bugzilla over several years (basically since the
> product was first released via the AppStore).
>
> I see now that my reports are being
tending
> > process, so maybe I've missed something?]
> >
> I made a research in an archive and found out that the document with
> the
> offer from Collabora was created by Jan Holesovsky with LibreOffice
> 4.2
> on Oct., 6 2014.
Sure, if we are talking the Android
Hi Andreas,
Andreas Mantke píše v Pá 09. 09. 2022 v 16:50 +0200:
> Thus it would be great, if you could make the current state of the
> documents (maybe with the changes done) available for the interested
> community.
It is still all developing in the same folder as before, available for
all
Hi Andreas,
Andreas Mantke píše v Čt 08. 09. 2022 v 21:01 +0200:
> > * Anything closer to be voted on? (Thorsten)
> > * another round of editing document (Kendy)
> > * closer to be voted on
> > * it's in shared folder
> > * another round of edits on his documents
> > * Paolo made last
Hi Paolo,
Paolo Vecchi píše v Čt 15. 09. 2022 v 11:27 +0200:
> Andreas' email is polite
I am sorry, but "It shows that there is no will of cooperation from
five members of the board." does not sound polite to me.
I have a lot of will to cooperate with everyone, including people I
don't agree
Hi Paolo,
No comment.
We have a Board meeting later today, and I believe it is better to
resolve things like this in a call or in person.
All the best,
Kendy
Paolo Vecchi píše v Čt 15. 09. 2022 v 12:20 +0200:
> Hi Jan,
>
> On 15/09/2022 11:41, Jan Holesovsky wrote:
>
Hi Paolo,
Paolo Vecchi píše v So 10. 09. 2022 v 15:45 +0200:
> > I am happy to share the folder (read-only) to the general public
> > too,
> > but I'd like to have Paolo's OK before I do - Paolo, is it OK for
> > you?
>
> I'm totally fine with sharing the folder to all so that they can see
>
e meeting on Monday. If
I'm not around, the standard representation applies.
> 3. Vote, Discuss: Merged developer proposal (tdf-board, Jan
> Holesovsky, 10 mins)
>
> * should the merged proposal be ready
> * have a last round of discussion
> * if
>
> Hi all,
I have unsubscribed from this mailing list, but it was brought to my
attention that Paolo claims that I have signed off the latest version of
the Developers proposal.
That is not true. That version is not balanced, and Paolo’s unwillingness
to find balance there was one of the main
Hi all,
Over the last ten months in the Board of Directors, I have been trying
to achieve two things: Get a *balanced* proposal how to hire and manage
TDF in-house developers, and to contract Weblate developers to improve
Weblate for our l10n community needs.
The latter seemed simple - there was
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