Re: Archives, archives, who's got the archives?

2002-11-04 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 14:31 28-10-2002 -0800, Nick Arnett wrote: > >just past a list of unkept promises you made to share the archives, > > Those are not unkept promises, those are not-yet-fulfilled promises. I'm afraid I see no difference. I was talking specifically about the promise you made to me to ftp the ar

Re: Some things are too good to last

2002-11-04 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 14:42 01-11-2002 -0500, Jon Gabriel wrote: Can convicted felons work for the Dutch Defense Ministry, and why or why not? I am not sure either way, and I cannot check right now either as I am on leave this week (and after this week, there are still ~38 hours of vacation time left that I hav

Re: Dogs and Uplift

2002-11-04 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 20:49 03-11-2002 -0500, David Hobby wrote: > There was something from DB at some point about why the dogs weren't > part of the uplifted species on Earth. Something about them being > uplifted to where they could finally open doors, and then door > technology changed drastically, and this aff

Re: Voting

2002-11-04 Thread Alberto Monteiro
William T Goodall quoted: > > Yet voting theorists argue that plurality voting is one > of the worst of all possible choices. (...) > "Almost anything looks good compared to it." " > God bless Saddam! A few months ago, those guys wouldn't dare to say that "plurarity voting is the worst of a

Re: Dogs and Uplift

2002-11-04 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Jeroen wrote: > > The quote is indeed from "Gorilla, My Dreams". It is available at > www.brin-l.com (Path: David Brin | Essays & Articles | Gorilla, > My Dreams). > He is really a (very evil) (Evil Overlord). Usually we don't see someone writing a book and its own parody. I nicknamed

Re: Some things are too good to last

2002-11-04 Thread Julia Thompson
"J. van Baardwijk" wrote: > > At 14:42 01-11-2002 -0500, Jon Gabriel wrote: > > >Can convicted felons work for the Dutch Defense Ministry, and why or why not? [snippage] > Of course, there will be a few variables at play then, such as what you did > wrong and when you did it. A sentence of 40 hou

RE: UN Security Council Reform Re: Just for the record

2002-11-04 Thread Jean-Louis Couturier
Jim wrote: >>>Le Dimanche 3 novembre 2002, à 08:58 , Jim Sharkey a écrit : >>>No, but my wife does. Every year on the day before Thanksgiving, >>>she and her father spend the evening making about a jillion >>>chocolate chip cookies for the holidays. The best part is that I >>>get to sit next t

Re: Some things are too good to last

2002-11-04 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 09:58 04-11-2002 -0600, Julia Thompson wrote: Is putting graffiti on a wall a felony there, then? I think that that would probably fall under the category of "misdemeanor" here. Misdemeanors don't affect your ability to vote, and probably don't affect your ability to hold most jobs. A felony

RE: UN Security Council Reform Re: Just for the record

2002-11-04 Thread Jean-Louis Couturier
De : Horn, John [mailto:JHorn@;healthlink.com] > As Jim said earlier, wouldn't that make it next to impossible to get > anything done on the UNSC? I can't imagine almost any even remotely > controversial proposal not being vetoed by one of that group? That's the way the UN is now. Everyone wants

Cookies (was RE: UN Security Council Reform Re: Just for the record)

2002-11-04 Thread Jim Sharkey
Jean-Louis Couturier wrote: >Jim wrote: >>hehehe, should I ever find myself sudenly diabetic or something, >>I'll drop you a line. >>Are you willing to take a trans-Atlantic flight though? :) > >Hmm, maybe not. But then again, Thanksgiving is a North American >holiday so I'm guessing you're

RE: Cookies (was RE: UN Security Council Reform Re: Just for the record)

2002-11-04 Thread Jean-Louis Couturier
Jim Sharkey [mailto:templar569@;excite.com] wrote: >>>hehehe, should I ever find myself sudenly diabetic or something, >>>I'll drop you a line. and later: >In that case, >New Jersey is not all that far from you after all! It isn't far, but I'll turn around and hassle my own mother in law rat

Re: Got back from early voting a little while ago

2002-11-04 Thread Matt Grimaldi
> > > If there were interstate dirt roads and > > > interstate monorails and interstate > > > skateboard ramps, then I could see > > > the need for the word highway to > > > diferentiate one interstate system > > > from another. > > > What about interstate commerce, interstate law > enforcement

RE: Some things are too good to last

2002-11-04 Thread Deborah Harrell
--- Ronn Blankenship wrote: > Deborah Harrell wrote: > >This reminds me of a Halloween ride in 1990 > >...pre-ride we had mead, coffee with Bailey's, and > >mimosas (orange juice & champagne)... > >but the real problem came > >later, when I was holding the reins for another > woman to re-mount. >

RE: Dogs and Uplift

2002-11-04 Thread Joe Hale
I don't know if this is covered in the series, but once you start uplifting species where do you stop? If you uplift dogs, why not cats? Why not squids? (They're smarter than you think). In fact, why not uplift cock roaches? Of course you'd have to make them bigger so their head could hold a bi

Cattales (Was: early voting/uplifted dogs)

2002-11-04 Thread Deborah Harrell
--- Ronn Blankenship wrote: > Deborah Harrell wrote: > >who is extremely grateful that Kia (12 yr-old cat) > >only *vocally* expressed his displeasure with the > >necessity of 'hot-packing' his abcess, rather than > >resorting to armed resistance... > > Aargh. How did he pick that up? Only th

Re: Dogs and Uplift

2002-11-04 Thread Matt Grimaldi
Joe Hale wrote: > > I don't know if this is covered in the series, but once you start > uplifting species where do you stop? If you uplift dogs, why not cats? > Why not squids? (They're smarter than you think). In fact, why not > uplift cock roaches? Of course you'd have to make them bigger so

RE: Cookies (was: UN Security Council Reform)

2002-11-04 Thread Deborah Harrell
This was sent to me yesterday as a true story, but someone I forwarded it to replied that it was an urban legend, and the 'real' Neiman Marcus cookie recipe, which they included, was different. Given the recently expressed list desire for chocolate chip cookies, I thought I'd pass along both. 'Wit

Re: Dogs and Uplift

2002-11-04 Thread Medievalbk
In a message dated 11/4/2002 4:20:58 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << Why not squids? (They're smarter than you think). In fact, why not uplift cock roaches? Of course you'd have to make them bigger so their head could hold a bigger brain. But once they achieved in

Chocolate chip cookie recipe

2002-11-04 Thread Julia Thompson
1 cup butter 3/4 cup sugar 3/4 cup brown sugar 1 tsp vanilla 2 eggs 1 tsp baking soda 1 tsp salt 2-1/4 cup flour 2 cups chocolate chips Blend butter, sugar, brown sugar, vanilla. Add eggs. Add baking soda and salt. Add flour, 3/4 cup at a time, mixing well each time. Add chocolate chips slowly

Re: Dogs and Uplift

2002-11-04 Thread Matt Grimaldi
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > In a message dated 11/4/2002 4:20:58 PM US Mountain Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > << Why not squids? (They're smarter than you think). In fact, why not > uplift cock roaches? Of course you'd have to make them bigger so their > head could hold a b

Re: Chocolate chip cookie recipe

2002-11-04 Thread Jean-Louis Couturier
Le Lundi 4 novembre 2002, à 07:31 , Julia Thompson a écrit : ... snip recipe p.s. the same sheet of paper also has recipes for sugar cookies (which I thought at the time came out a little dry, but everyone else liked them just fine) and peanut butter cookies (which no one found fault with). Let

US Unilateralism

2002-11-04 Thread John D. Giorgis
I know that the US, especially under the current Administration, is often-criticized for having unilateralist tendencies, and disregarding the opinions of the international community. With that being said, has anybody noticed that the United States has now let the United Nations deliberate for nea

the people in congress against free speech

2002-11-04 Thread The Fool
http://www.aotc.info/archives/000152.html#000152 The Worst Coders in Washington The best code in the world can be foiled by a single bug. One careless line of code can crash an entire program. Lawrence Lessig calls laws "East Coast Code," and it only takes a few buggy laws to strangle freedom a

Re: Question Simpsons, the answer

2002-11-04 Thread Kevin Tarr
At 10:15 PM 11/3/2002 -0500, you wrote: B I G S P O I L E R S P A C E I heard: "What is this... ___?" *Blam* (As he shoots Future Homer #2) and then after he picks up the Time Machine: "Now to get me some Cavewomen Hookers" *Vanishes in Time Travel Swirl* Jon From: [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: US Unilateralism

2002-11-04 Thread Russell Chapman
John D. Giorgis wrote: Does anyone know if the rest of the world is giving the US credit for sticking with the multilateral approach, and engaging both its allies and the UNSC members in very long and difficult negotiations, and working towards an ultimate resolution in the United Nations that wi

RE: Dogs and Uplift

2002-11-04 Thread Ronn Blankenship
At 05:19 PM 11/4/02, Joe Hale wrote: I don't know if this is covered in the series, but once you start uplifting species where do you stop? If you uplift dogs, why not cats? Because they are already smarter than humans? After all, as someone has said: "Dogs have masters. Cats have staff."

Re: Question Simpsons, the answer

2002-11-04 Thread Medievalbk
In a message dated 11/4/2002 8:35:00 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << >>What is this, guest shot city? >> >>Or something as meaningless. >> >>William Taylor What is this, open mike night? >> Same meaning; wrong form. Thus proving the need for a VCR as oposed to

great names in Sci-Fi - R.I.P.

2002-11-04 Thread Gary Nunn
Rest in peace gentlemen. You will be missed. Johnathon Harris - November 4, 2002 http://www.cnn.com/2002/SHOWBIZ/TV/11/04/harris.obit.ap/ Charles Sheffield - November 2, 2002 http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/art-main.html?2002-11/04/10.00.books Richard Harris - October 25, 2002 (not really S

Re: Question Simpsons, the answer

2002-11-04 Thread Julia Thompson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > In a message dated 11/4/2002 8:35:00 PM US Mountain Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > << >>What is this, guest shot city? > >> > >>Or something as meaningless. > >> > >>William Taylor > > > What is this, open mike night? >> > > Same meaning; wrong

Bin Laden's son may be in U.S. custody

2002-11-04 Thread Robert Seeberger
http://www.upi.com/view.cfm?StoryID=20021103-041112-7523r At least 20 suspected members of al Qaida, possibly including one of the sons of accused terrorist mastermind Osama bin Laden, were deported by Iran to Pakistan two months ago and handed over to the Americans, according to Pakistani intell

It's true, men really are from Mars

2002-11-04 Thread Robert Seeberger
And so are women, thanks to an invasion by Red Planet microbes http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,3604,822088,00.html A hundred years ago it was widely believed that there was life on Mars. The American astronomer Percival Lowell even produced detailed maps of canals he claimed had been c

Purdue Scientists Spiriting Towards Possible Ghost Contact

2002-11-04 Thread Robert Seeberger
http://www.ncbuy.com/news/wireless_news.html?qdate=2002-11-01&nav=VIEW&id=4B 17BF7P603021101 Scientists at Purdue University are currently pursuing an experiment that, if successful, could prove the existence of other dimensions -- and possibly ghosts. The researchers are repeatedly placing two ni

Re: Question Simpsons, the answer

2002-11-04 Thread Julia Thompson
On Mon, 4 Nov 2002, Kevin Tarr wrote: > At 10:15 PM 11/3/2002 -0500, you wrote: > >B > >I > >G > > > >S > >P > >O > >I > >L > >E > >R > > > >S > >P > >A > >C > >E > > > > > > > >I heard: > >"What is this... ___?" > >*Blam* (As he shoots Future Homer #2) > >and then after he picks up the Tim

Re: the people in congress against free speech

2002-11-04 Thread Julia Thompson
The Fool wrote: > The Lawmakers > These lawmakers in Congress and the Senate wrote more anti-technology > legal code than any of their co-legislators. > Rep. Lamar Smith (R-TX 21st district) 2 bills $87,112 > P2P Piracy Prevention Bill, COPA Yeah, well, he was our representative (still is, I gues

RE: US Unilateralism

2002-11-04 Thread Ritu Ko
John D. Giorgis wrote: > With that being said, has anybody noticed that the United > States has now > let the United Nations deliberate for nearly two months (and > counting) on > its dispute with Iraq? "..the US has *let* the UN deliberate..."? Interesting terminology there, JDG. :)

Re: great names in Sci-Fi - R.I.P.

2002-11-04 Thread Medievalbk
In a message dated 11/4/2002 9:51:34 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << http://www.cnn.com/2002/SHOWBIZ/TV/11/04/harris.obit.ap/ >> Well that was a totally fluff piece. Where's a link to a real obit? ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/

Fiery ice from the sea

2002-11-04 Thread Robert Seeberger
http://www.cosmiverse.com/news/tech/1102/tech11040201.html A new world energy source? If you know anything about methane gas ­ and the Office of Naval Research thinks you should ­ it probably has something to do with swamp gas, and a faintly unpleasant sulfurous smell that rises from country mar

Re: Question Simpsons, the answer

2002-11-04 Thread Medievalbk
In a message dated 11/4/2002 10:03:29 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << Oh, if you haven't had kids yet, >> I'm 48 and out of shape. I'll borrow the neighbor's as long as they're dry. William Taylor But finding a Mrs Wilson might be nice. __

Re: It's true, men really are from Mars

2002-11-04 Thread Medievalbk
In a message dated 11/4/2002 10:28:04 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << One of the puzzles about life's appearance on Earth is that it happened so quickly after the bombardment abated about 3.8bn years ago. There are distinct traces of life in Australia dating from 3.5b

Re: the people in congress against free speech

2002-11-04 Thread Medievalbk
In a message dated 11/4/2002 10:49:19 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << (Not that I mean any slur against San Antonio, >> But it's so easy to do so. One time I got caught in rush hour traffic on I I I I I I I I I I I I

Re: US Unilateralism

2002-11-04 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: "Ritu Ko" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 11:51 PM Subject: RE: US Unilateralism > > > John D. Giorgis wrote: > > > With that being said, has anybody noticed that the United > > States has now > > let the United Natio

Re: US Unilateralism

2002-11-04 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: "Ritu Ko" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 11:51 PM Subject: RE: US Unilateralism > > > John D. Giorgis wrote: > > > With that being said, has anybody noticed that the United > > States has now > > let the United Natio