Re: Da Vinci Code

2004-06-14 Thread G. D. Akin
Doug Pensinger wrote: I finished this one a month or so ago and while some of it was interesting I thought the endless train of riddle solving got tiresome and that the twist near the end was poorly done. Has anyone else here read it? -

Re: Basketball

2004-06-14 Thread G. D. Akin
Doug Pensinger wrote: I'm feeling so badly for the Lakers now that they're down 3-1 in the finals. Poor Kobe. Poor Shaq. Poor Phil. Poor L.A. -- Doug Go Pistons maru. - I'm a BIG TIME Laker fan from a long, long time

Re: Da Vinci Code (Spoilers)

2004-06-14 Thread Julia Thompson
Doug Pensinger wrote: David Hobby wrote: S P O I L E R S P A C E [snippage] I just didn't buy into the jovial, friendly Grail expert being the manipulative Teacher and that all of a sudden the previously evil Cardinal and his albino henchman were the Teacher's poor, misused

Memorial Ruled Unconstitutional

2004-06-14 Thread iaamoac
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A26255-2004Jun8.html The ACLU is at it again, ruling that crosses may not be used as Memorials to our war dead on Federal Land. According to the logic of this ruling, at minimum the US cemetary in Normandy is unconstitutional, and very arguably

Re: AMA Resolution: Doctors to No-Longer Treat Lawyers and their Families

2004-06-14 Thread Deborah Harrell
The Fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0609-10.htm A Chilling AMA Resolution: What Happened to the Hippocratic Oath? by Ralph Nader Unless cooler heads prevail, the American Medical Association is teetering on the brink of public ridicule, mockery

Re: Da Vinci Code (Spoilers)

2004-06-14 Thread Bryon Daly
From: Doug Pensinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] David Hobby wrote: S P O I L E R S P A C E Somewhere around half-way through it, I started yelling at the characters, saying something on the order of, Take the stupid puzzle box to an CAT scanner already! Getting out of so many tight squeezes was

Terrorism too close to home...

2004-06-14 Thread Gary Nunn
Headline: Somali Charged in Plot Against Ohio Mall This is close enough to me that it leaves a shiver. They have not announced what mall was the potential target, but my guess is that it was City Center mall as that would be the one that would cause the most death and destruction. It is a

WTF: Court Allows 'Under God' on Technicality

2004-06-14 Thread Gary Nunn
How lame can this be? The heart of the article.. Court Allows 'Under God' on Technicality For now, five justices said the court could not rule on the case because California atheist Michael Newdow does not have full custody of his daughter. http://apnews.excite.com/article/20040614

RE: Dirty Bomb Would Be a Dud

2004-06-14 Thread Horn, John
From: Gary Denton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Being stupid doesn't get a criminal out of being prosecuted for his crimes, why should it in this case? It's intent that counts, isn't it? I forget if it was Wolfowitz or Perle who thought he shouldn't be

RE: To Your Scattered Plotlines Go

2004-06-14 Thread Horn, John
From: Julia Thompson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Sun, Jun 13, 2004 at 12:01:04PM -0700, Doug Pensinger wrote: Beyond the meandering, pointless plot, the flat, uninteresting characters and the asinine dialog, the whole idea seems a bit dumb to me. I'm sorry if I'm trashing

Email faux pas - was WTF: Court Allows 'Under

2004-06-14 Thread Gary Nunn
Subject: WTF: Court Allows 'Under God' on Technicality Oops... How embarrassing ... I originally put WTF in the subject line and then reconsidered and started to change it. I was distracted by my 3 year old son and when I returned to the PC I pushed Send and didn't think another thought about

Re: Da Vinci Code (Spoilers)

2004-06-14 Thread David Hobby
Doug Pensinger wrote: David Hobby wrote: S P O I L E R S P A C E ... The twist at the end obviously took a lot of work to set up, and I think a lot of that was well done. It didn't really hit me as one might wish it too, but I don't see how to rewrite it to make it

Re: To Your Scattered Plotlines Go

2004-06-14 Thread Julia Thompson
Gary Denton wrote: On Sun, 13 Jun 2004 23:24:06 -0500, Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gary Denton wrote: Hugo nominees: 1972: To Your Scattered Bodies Go by Philip José Farmer The Lathe of Heaven by Ursula K. Le Guin Dragonquest by Anne McCaffrey A Time of

Re: Memorial Ruled Unconstitutional

2004-06-14 Thread Julia Thompson
iaamoac wrote: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A26255-2004Jun8.html The ACLU is at it again, ruling that crosses may not be used as Memorials to our war dead on Federal Land. According to the logic of this ruling, at minimum the US cemetary in Normandy is

Re: Request for Proposals

2004-06-14 Thread Julia Thompson
The Fool wrote: -- From: iaamoac [EMAIL PROTECTED] Well, I happen to know that there are a number of critiques of Bush's foreign policy on this List. Thus, I thought that it would be interesting to solicit recommendations for what to do about Iran here. I look forward to your

Re: Dirty Bomb Would Be a Dud

2004-06-14 Thread Gary Denton
On Mon, 14 Jun 2004 17:52:28 -0500, Horn, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Gary Denton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Being stupid doesn't get a criminal out of being prosecuted for his crimes, why should it in this case? It's intent that counts, isn't

Re: Request for Proposals

2004-06-14 Thread The Fool
-- From: Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Fool wrote: -- From: iaamoac [EMAIL PROTECTED] Well, I happen to know that there are a number of critiques of Bush's foreign policy on this List. Thus, I thought that it would be interesting to solicit

Re: Request for Proposals

2004-06-14 Thread Gary Denton
On Mon, 14 Jun 2004 19:44:53 -0500, Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Fool wrote: From: iaamoac [EMAIL PROTECTED] Would Israel do the right thing? Julia Be kinda ironic, if that is the word I want, if Israel dropped a nuke to take out Iran's plant. Now if Russia,

Re: To Your Scattered Plotlines Go

2004-06-14 Thread Gary Denton
On Mon, 14 Jun 2004 19:41:52 -0500, Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip I've read the Farmer, the Le Guin and the McCaffrey. I first read _Dragonquest_ when I was about 13. (Probably within 3 months of my 13th birthday one way or the other.) I first read _Lathe of Heaven_ when I

Re: Request for Proposals

2004-06-14 Thread Nick Lidster
- Original Message - From: Gary Denton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 14, 2004 11:11 PM Subject: Re: Request for Proposals On Mon, 14 Jun 2004 19:44:53 -0500, Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Fool wrote: From: iaamoac

Re: WTF: Court Allows 'Under God' on Technicality

2004-06-14 Thread Doug Pensinger
Gary Nunn wrote: How lame can this be? The heart of the article.. Court Allows 'Under God' on Technicality For now, five justices said the court could not rule on the case because California atheist Michael Newdow does not have full custody of his daughter. They definitely whimped out. What

Tytlal designed test at an Uplift Ceremony

2004-06-14 Thread Medievalbk
Tytlal designed test OK... I'm thinking of using this as a test at the Rousit Uplift Ceremony: - You are a Rousit in a party of ten Rousits. Since you can't speak, the tytlal are going to work on an equal level and only give you instructions using pantomime and hand signals.

Re: Request for Proposals

2004-06-14 Thread JDG
At 03:22 PM 6/14/2004 -0500 The Fool wrote: Simple. We send in the stealth Bombers / Fighters and bomb every single suspected nuclear site with daisy cutters. It's the right thing to do. Shrub is too cowardly and ignorant to the right thing. And you would do this without UN or NATO

Re: Request for Proposals

2004-06-14 Thread JDG
At 11:29 PM 6/14/2004 -0230 Nick Lidster wrote: I tend to agree with Gary on this one, Iran would back away rather quickly if a coalition said to pack up the reactor and go home. Uh what do you think the world is doing RE; Iran and DPRK right now, and what do you see Iran and DPRK doing in

Re: WTF: Court Allows 'Under God' on Technicality

2004-06-14 Thread JDG
At 07:46 PM 6/14/2004 -0700 Doug Pensinger wrote: They definitely whimped out. What this means to me is that they were afraid to rule because of the impact their ruling would have, so they found a way to weasel out of making any decision. Actually, the answer is that with Scalia recused they

Re: Dirty Bomb Would Be a Dud

2004-06-14 Thread Doug Pensinger
John Horn wrote: I agree with that but it is a completely different issue. If someone was planning on blowing up the Lincoln Memorial with a pack of playing cards they would still be liable to be prosecuted with that even if it is completely impossible, right? I see your point, but would the

Re: To Your Scattered Plotlines Go

2004-06-14 Thread Bryon Daly
From: Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Plus I married a guy who's read only 1 Le Guin novel, and that one is it, and he likes it so much that he doesn't want to read any more Le Guin for fear of disappointment. I keep telling him he really ought to read _The Dispossessed_. (You may disagree, but

Re: Terrorism too close to home...

2004-06-14 Thread Doug Pensinger
Gary wrote: Of course this threat is no different that any other terrorist threat, it's just a little closer to home for me. I have always said that the best way to create true terror would be the random bombing or destruction of small town targets that have no strategic value. Aye, look at the

Re: WTF: Court Allows 'Under God' on Technicality

2004-06-14 Thread Doug Pensinger
On Mon, 14 Jun 2004 22:59:14 -0400, JDG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 07:46 PM 6/14/2004 -0700 Doug Pensinger wrote: They definitely whimped out. What this means to me is that they were afraid to rule because of the impact their ruling would have, so they found a way to weasel out of making any

Re: Memorial Ruled Unconstitutional

2004-06-14 Thread JDG
But wait, there's more..the latest Church-and-State silliness is arguing that helping kids get a good education will establish religion in the United States http://tinyurl.com/2db5s Sigh. JDG ___

Re: Memorial Ruled Unconstitutional

2004-06-14 Thread Doug Pensinger
Julia wrote: And what, if anything, does the ACLU have to say about the white crosses at roadside spots where people were killed in automobile accidents? I know there would be a lot of angry people if they tried to have those banned. I think the gist of the decision is summarized in this quote

Re: To Your Scattered Plotlines Go

2004-06-14 Thread Julia Thompson
Gary Denton wrote: On Mon, 14 Jun 2004 19:41:52 -0500, Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip I've read the Farmer, the Le Guin and the McCaffrey. I first read _Dragonquest_ when I was about 13. (Probably within 3 months of my 13th birthday one way or the other.) I first

Re: Terrorism too close to home...

2004-06-14 Thread JDG
Welcome to the Club, Gary I can definitely sympathize with how it feels to think that there may be terrorists on your doorstep - say targetting your train into work or the very large Train Station next door to your office JDG - We Will Prevail, Maru

Re: WTF: Court Allows 'Under God' on Technicality

2004-06-14 Thread JDG
At 08:48 PM 6/14/2004 -0700 Doug Pensinger wrote: Actually, the answer is that with Scalia recused they had a 4-4 vote on all other outcomes. I could be way out to lunch but I find it unlikely that they wouldn't just say that they were unable to make a decision. I find it much more likely

Re: Memorial Ruled Unconstitutional

2004-06-14 Thread JDG
At 08:56 PM 6/14/2004 -0700 Doug Pensinger wrote: The roadside monuments are highly individual and beyond that they are relatively temporary. The use of a cross to honor war veterans is exclusionary and as such, offensive. I don't think you said that right. I am unaware of any

Re: Dirty Bomb Would Be a Dud

2004-06-14 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 08:11 PM 6/14/04 -0500, Gary Denton wrote: Actually, I don't think so. If I pulled out my banana and said I was going to vaporize you with it I would not be charged with murder. I dunno. I was in a movie some years back where I used a banana¹ as a lethal weapon. _ ¹Several bananas

Re: Da Vinci Code (Spoilers)

2004-06-14 Thread Doug Pensinger
On Mon, 14 Jun 2004 20:32:52 -0400, David Hobby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Doug Pensinger wrote: David Hobby wrote: S P O I L E R S P A C E Oh, that twist! As I recall, that was 100 pages from the end. (Yes, a fair-sized book.) I thought you meant the ironic big pile of historical documents was

Re: Memorial Ruled Unconstitutional

2004-06-14 Thread Doug Pensinger
JDG wrote: I don't think you said that right. I am unaware of any Constitutional provision against exclusionary and offensive speech on federal lands. JDG - Something about defending your right to say it, Maru . Come on John, you know that one of the reasons for the bill of rights, perhaps