Dave Land wrote:
snip I'm trying to resist blaming,
because it can't possibly do any good at this point. People want to
point the finger at Bush's shifting of funds from the levee repairs
to Iraq, but there have been TEN presidential administrations since
the Army Corps of Engineers'
On Sep 5, 2005, at 9:11 PM, Maru Dubshinki wrote:
On 9/5/05, Dave Land [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It'll be a while 'til you can get a copy of OS X that will run on
non-Apple Intel hardware, but in the meanwhile, FreeBSD itself is
very
well-regarded from a security standpoint and has all the
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6210240/
SECAUCUS Secretary of Homeland Security Michael Chertoff said it all,
starting his news briefing Saturday afternoon: Louisiana is a city
that is largely underwater...
Well there's your problem right there.
If ever a slip-of-the-tongue defined a
Outrageous:
http://www.thoughtcrimes.org/mt/archives/002731.html
The water wasn't going down and they had been living without light,
food or air conditioning for four days. The baby needed milk and the
milk was gone. So she decided they would evacuate by helicopter. When a
helicopter arrived to
Come on, this is a little misleading. If you read the original Seattle Times
story, this is clearly a case of children UNINTENTIONALLY separated from
their parents in the chaos.
No matter what the circumstances are, I refuse to believe that ANY rescuer
would abandon children for any reason.
A friend of ours who works at a local clinic (just north of Houston) said
they are getting a number of people from New Orleans there. The most
disturbing story were two women who came to their clinic because they were
rapedbut who would not report the rapes to authorities.
Dan M.
Gary Nunn wrote:
Come on, this is a little misleading. If you read the
original Seattle Times story, this is clearly a case of
children UNINTENTIONALLY separated from their parents in the chaos.
Umm, I think that isn't the case. From what I've read, the separation
from parents was
At 10:50 AM Tuesday 9/6/2005, Dan Minette wrote:
A friend of ours who works at a local clinic (just north of Houston) said
they are getting a number of people from New Orleans there. The most
disturbing story were two women who came to their clinic because they were
rapedbut who would not
On Sep 5, 2005, at 11:27 PM, The Fool wrote:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6210240/
Thank you for this disturbing, enlightening piece of commentary.
But, nationally, these are leaders who won re-election last year
largely by portraying their opponents as incapable of keeping the
country safe.
Dave Land wrote:
These are leaders who defined national security in terms of 9/11. The
question is whether we will insist that the blighters we put in their
places can think in terms of 8/29, too.
I feel sorry for the victims, but wasn´t here an alarm, calling
for evacuation from the city
On Sep 6, 2005, at 10:26 AM, Alberto Monteiro wrote:
Dave Land wrote:
These are leaders who defined national security in terms of 9/11. The
question is whether we will insist that the blighters we put in their
places can think in terms of 8/29, too.
I feel sorry for the victims, but wasn´t
Dave Land wrote:
These are leaders who defined national security in terms
of 9/11. The
question is whether we will insist that the blighters we
put in their
places can think in terms of 8/29, too.
I feel sorry for the victims, but wasn´t here an alarm, calling for
evacuation
- Original Message -
From: Alberto Monteiro [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2005 12:26 PM
Subject: Re: Olbermann
Dave Land wrote:
These are leaders who defined national security in terms of 9/11. The
question is whether
At 12:26 PM Tuesday 9/6/2005, Alberto Monteiro wrote:
Dave Land wrote:
These are leaders who defined national security in terms of 9/11. The
question is whether we will insist that the blighters we put in their
places can think in terms of 8/29, too.
I feel sorry for the victims, but wasn´t
Robert Seeberger wrote:
- Original Message -
From: Dave Land [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com
Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2005 11:39 PM
Subject: Re: The Doom That Came To N'Warlins - II
On Sep 4, 2005, at 7:00 PM, Robert Seeberger wrote:
From: Dave
Dave Land wrote:
On Sep 4, 2005, at 11:51 PM, Robert Seeberger wrote:
Granted, I live in this region. Geographically, I share the same type
of enviroment as the effected people. I have travelled through all
those places, and have stayed in many of them. I've known people from
these areas all
Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
At 10:50 AM Tuesday 9/6/2005, Dan Minette wrote:
A friend of ours who works at a local clinic (just north of Houston) said
they are getting a number of people from New Orleans there. The most
disturbing story were two women who came to their clinic because they
were
Alberto Monteiro wrote:
Dave Land wrote:
These are leaders who defined national security in terms of 9/11. The
question is whether we will insist that the blighters we put in their
places can think in terms of 8/29, too.
I feel sorry for the victims, but wasn´t here an alarm, calling
for
On Sep 6, 2005, at 11:53 AM, Dan Minette wrote:
Going to the National Hurricane Center Archives, we see that that, 3
days
before it hit, it was a minimal hurricane (75 mph winds) that was
suppose
to curve soon and hit the Florida Panhandle.
Which, IIRC, it did. Apparently several people in
Julia Thompson wrote:
Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
At 10:50 AM Tuesday 9/6/2005, Dan Minette wrote:
A friend of ours who works at a local clinic (just north of
Houston) said they are getting a number of people from New Orleans
there. The most disturbing story were two women who came to
their
- Original Message -
From: Warren Ockrassa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2005 5:17 PM
Subject: Re: Olbermann
On Sep 6, 2005, at 11:53 AM, Dan Minette wrote:
Going to the National Hurricane Center Archives, we see that
Alberto Monteiro wrote:
Dave Land wrote:
These are leaders who defined national security in terms of 9/11.
The
question is whether we will insist that the blighters we put in
their
places can think in terms of 8/29, too.
I feel sorry for the victims, but wasn´t here an alarm, calling
Dave Land wrote:
On Sep 6, 2005, at 10:26 AM, Alberto Monteiro wrote:
Dave Land wrote:
These are leaders who defined national security in terms of 9/11.
The question is whether we will insist that the blighters we put
in
their places can think in terms of 8/29, too.
I feel sorry for the
Dan Minette wrote:
- Original Message -
From: Alberto Monteiro [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2005 12:26 PM
Subject: Re: Olbermann
Dave Land wrote:
These are leaders who defined national security in terms of 9/11.
The
Behalf Of Robert Seeberger
There is a bit of misinformation that is being spread around. The
actual levees held and have not been a problem. What everyone is
seeing on TV is a break in a canal wall and that is not a levee.
There is a report I saw that relates an eyewitness who claims that
Just replying to one point at this time (more later)-
Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: Deborah Harrell
You are not taking into account the advances
made
by universities and publicly-funded institutes.
For-profit drug companies *are not* the only
or
even primary
Warren Ockrassa wrote:
On Sep 6, 2005, at 11:53 AM, Dan Minette wrote:
Going to the National Hurricane Center Archives, we see that that,
3
days
before it hit, it was a minimal hurricane (75 mph winds) that was
suppose
to curve soon and hit the Florida Panhandle.
Which, IIRC, it did.
Horn, John wrote:
Behalf Of Robert Seeberger
There is a bit of misinformation that is being spread around. The
actual levees held and have not been a problem. What everyone is
seeing on TV is a break in a canal wall and that is not a levee.
There is a report I saw that relates an eyewitness
William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED] quoted:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2089-1764115,00.html
big DEFANGED_snip
Earth to Bush: the breaching of the levees had been
foreseen for
decades. If anyone wanted evidence that this
president was completely
divorced from reality,
Robert Seeberger wrote:
Horn, John wrote:
Behalf Of Robert Seeberger
There is a bit of misinformation that is being spread around. The
actual levees held and have not been a problem. What everyone is
seeing on TV is a break in a canal wall and that is not a levee.
There is a report I saw
Robert Seeberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Dan Minette wrote:
Going to the National Hurricane Center Archives,
we see that that, 3
days before it hit, it was a minimal hurricane (75
mph winds) that
was suppose to curve soon and hit the Florida
Panhandle. It was
forcast to have only
So, I'm reading the discussion of why some people didn't evacuate New
Orleans. I find myself wondering if a lot of people in this country just
don't realize how desperately poor some of us are. It seems clear that lots
of the folks in charge don't have a clue that you can't just announce,
On Sep 6, 2005, at 4:09 PM, Robert Seeberger wrote:
There is a bit of misinformation that is being spread around. The
actual levees held and have not been a problem. What everyone is
seeing on TV is a break in a canal wall and that is not a levee.
There is a report I saw that relates an
- Original Message -
From: Deborah Harrell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2005 6:26 PM
Subject: Re: Sources of Drug Innovation
Just replying to one point at this time (more later)-
Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Warren Ockrassa wrote:
Who the heck is doing their ad work now? I shudder to think what kind of
childhood must have fed into these creative ideas. Between that and
the shrieking mutants Quizno's was using a while back, all I can imagine
is that the current edgy idea on Mad Ave is Freak 'em out
Dave Land wrote:
On Sep 6, 2005, at 4:09 PM, Robert Seeberger wrote:
There is a bit of misinformation that is being spread around. The
actual levees held and have not been a problem. What everyone is
seeing on TV is a break in a canal wall and that is not a levee.
There is a report I saw
On Sep 6, 2005, at 6:35 PM, Max Battcher wrote:
Warren Ockrassa wrote:
Who the heck is doing their ad work now? I shudder to think what
kind of childhood must have fed into these creative ideas.
Between that and the shrieking mutants Quizno's was using a while
back, all I can imagine is
- Original Message -
From: Ronn!Blankenship [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2005 12:10 PM
Subject: Re: Disturbing report
At 10:50 AM Tuesday 9/6/2005, Dan Minette wrote:
A friend of ours who works at a local clinic (just
- Original Message -
From: Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2005 4:32 PM
Subject: Re: The Doom That Came To N'Warlins - II
But you're not on LOCAL mailing lists that have 20 messages a day
telling us, Hey, I
Warren Ockrassa wrote:
Just caught the latest Burger King ad featuring a return of Dr. Angus.
Am I the only one who finds this guy so creepy that, even if I were a
practicing carnivore, I'd refuse to buy the product he advertises? I
mean, the last thing I want to do is identify in any way
Dan Minette wrote:
I'm surprised we haven't heard the Aaron Neville singing Louisiana 1927
as background music on CNN during the coverage. It's going through my
head. It doesn't fit exactly, but still:
I may have heard him using this in a radio ad appealing to people to
send money to
Robert Seeberger wrote:
- Original Message -
From: Warren Ockrassa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com
Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2005 10:12 PM
Subject: Re: The Doom That Came To N'Warlins - II
The suffering of 20K people is awful. No argument there. But
- Original Message -
From: Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2005 9:24 PM
Subject: Re: The Doom That Came To N'Warlins - II
And that *doesn't* count the people who had the resources to get out on
their own
William T Goodall wrote:
http://news.scotsman.com/index.cfm?id=1891072005
THE United States has asked the European Union and NATO for emergency
assistance for the victims of Hurricane Katrina as salvage efforts in
New Orleans and other cities begin to move from rescuing the living to
On Sep 6, 2005, at 7:07 PM, Robert Seeberger wrote:
It sucks to gain education and edification this way, but I suppose it
is better than being clueless as to what one is viewing.
Like War is the means by which Americans learn geography.
Toggling back and forth between the Hybrid view and
At 09:30 PM Tuesday 9/6/2005, Julia Thompson wrote:
William T Goodall wrote:
http://news.scotsman.com/index.cfm?id=1891072005
THE United States has asked the European Union and NATO
for emergency assistance for the victims of Hurricane Katrina as
salvage efforts in New Orleans and other
Dan Minette wrote:
- Original Message -
From: Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2005 4:32 PM
Subject: Re: The Doom That Came To N'Warlins - II
But you're not on LOCAL mailing lists that have 20 messages a day
Dan Minette wrote:
- Original Message -
From: Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2005 9:24 PM
Subject: Re: The Doom That Came To N'Warlins - II
And that *doesn't* count the people who had the resources to get out
Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
At 09:30 PM Tuesday 9/6/2005, Julia Thompson wrote:
William T Goodall wrote:
http://news.scotsman.com/index.cfm?id=1891072005
THE United States has asked the European Union and NATO for
emergency assistance for the victims of Hurricane Katrina as salvage
efforts
On Sep 6, 2005, at 7:24 PM, Julia Thompson wrote:
Robert Seeberger wrote:
- Original Message - From: Warren Ockrassa
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com
Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2005 10:12 PM
Subject: Re: The Doom That Came To N'Warlins - II
The
http://www.nydailynews.com/front/story/343813p-293471c.html
Disaster used as political payoff
New York Daily News
Already under fire for its woeful response to Hurricane Katrina, the
federal disaster agency appears to have turned hurricane relief
donations into a political payoff - until it was
What I'm hearing which is sort of scary is that they all want to stay
in Texas. Everybody is so overhwlemed by the hospitality. And so many
of the people in the arena here, you know, were underprivileged anyway
so this (chuckle)--this is working very well for them.
--Barbra Bush
Sometimes
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