Re: Off-topic., monotonous posting (was Child-killing religion)

2008-10-21 Thread Andrew Crystall
On 15 Oct 2008 at 11:37, William T Goodall wrote: > It's been very quiet here since the thought police manifesto. > > Obvious Maru You posted a Manifesto? AndrewC Yes, I went there Maru Dawn Falcon ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Off-topic., monotonous posting (was Child-killing religion)

2008-10-17 Thread William T Goodall
On 15 Oct 2008, at 12:34, William T Goodall wrote: > > On 15 Oct 2008, at 02:04, David Hobby wrote: > >> William T Goodall wrote: >>> On 20 Aug 2008, at 16:10, William T Goodall wrote: I'm growing increasingly concerned that you are trying to use your position on the list to intimidate

Re: Off-topic., monotonous posting (was Child-killing religion)

2008-10-15 Thread Deborah Harrell
> William T Goodall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> William T Goodall wrote: > >>> I don't know who wrote: > >>> I'm growing increasingly concerned that you are trying to use your > >>> position on the list to intimidate and silence those with whom you > >>> do not agree and that this behaviou

Re: Off-topic., monotonous posting (was Child-killing religion)

2008-10-15 Thread Kevin B. O'Brien
Ronn! Blankenship wrote: > At 09:18 PM Tuesday 10/14/2008, Kevin B. O'Brien wrote: > > > >> At this point I cannot rule out some stupid technical problem, like a >> message that got caught in a queue somewhere and just now shook loose. >> It *does* happen sometimes. >> > > > > I wondered if

Re: Off-topic., monotonous posting (was Child-killing religion)

2008-10-15 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
At 09:18 PM Tuesday 10/14/2008, Kevin B. O'Brien wrote: > >At this point I cannot rule out some stupid technical problem, like a >message that got caught in a queue somewhere and just now shook loose. >It *does* happen sometimes. I wondered if that was what happened. History Repeats Itself

Re: Off-topic., monotonous posting (was Child-killing religion)

2008-10-15 Thread William T Goodall
On 15 Oct 2008, at 02:04, David Hobby wrote: > William T Goodall wrote: >> On 20 Aug 2008, at 16:10, William T Goodall wrote: >>> I'm growing increasingly concerned that you are trying to use your >>> position on the list to intimidate and silence those with whom you >>> do >>> not agree and th

Re: Off-topic., monotonous posting (was Child-killing religion)

2008-10-15 Thread William T Goodall
On 15 Oct 2008, at 02:04, David Hobby wrote: > William T Goodall wrote: >> On 20 Aug 2008, at 16:10, William T Goodall wrote: >>> I'm growing increasingly concerned that you are trying to use your >>> position on the list to intimidate and silence those with whom you >>> do >>> not agree and th

Re: Off-topic., monotonous posting (was Child-killing religion)

2008-10-14 Thread Alberto Vieira Ferreira Monteiro
Kevin B. O'Brien wrote: > > At this point I cannot rule out some stupid technical problem, like a > message that got caught in a queue somewhere and just now shook loose. > It *does* happen sometimes. > No, I think he means that the financial system crashed because the USA abandoned God and became

Re: Off-topic., monotonous posting (was Child-killing religion)

2008-10-14 Thread Kevin B. O'Brien
Dan M wrote: > Nick Wrote > >> Non sequitur? >> > > I bet Willie will insist that it was a sequitur. > > Dan M. > At this point I cannot rule out some stupid technical problem, like a message that got caught in a queue somewhere and just now shook loose. It *does* happen sometimes. R

RE: Off-topic., monotonous posting (was Child-killing religion)

2008-10-14 Thread Dan M
Nick Wrote > > Non sequitur? I bet Willie will insist that it was a sequitur. Dan M. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Off-topic., monotonous posting (was Child-killing religion)

2008-10-14 Thread narnett
Non sequitur? ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Off-topic., monotonous posting (was Child-killing religion)

2008-10-14 Thread David Hobby
William T Goodall wrote: > On 20 Aug 2008, at 16:10, William T Goodall wrote: >> I'm growing increasingly concerned that you are trying to use your >> position on the list to intimidate and silence those with whom you do >> not agree and that this behaviour could be offensive to some who might >> o

Re: Off-topic., monotonous posting (was Child-killing religion)

2008-10-14 Thread William T Goodall
On 20 Aug 2008, at 16:10, William T Goodall wrote: > > I'm growing increasingly concerned that you are trying to use your > position on the list to intimidate and silence those with whom you do > not agree and that this behaviour could be offensive to some who might > otherwise participate. > See

Re: Apology (was Re: Off-topic., monotonous posting (was Child-killing religion))

2008-08-21 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
At 09:33 AM Thursday 8/21/2008, Lance A. Brown wrote: >Ronn! Blankenship wrote: > > If they are indeed _silent_, what makes you think they agree with you? > >He's a mind reader. Doesn't believe in religion, but does believe in >telepathy. :-) > >The Amazing William Maru > >--[Lance] I was being

Re: Apology (was Re: Off-topic., monotonous posting (was Child-killing religion))

2008-08-21 Thread William T Goodall
On 21 Aug 2008, at 18:53, Olin Elliott wrote: > The list has now been dominated by this discusion for much longer > than seems reasonable. It is much more distracting than William's > posts. It does seem an enormous amount of fuss about one or two posts per week. That's why I don't believ

Re: Apology (was Re: Off-topic., monotonous posting (was Child-killing religion))

2008-08-21 Thread Olin Elliott
l@mccmedia.com> Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 8:05 AM Subject: Re: Apology (was Re: Off-topic.,monotonous posting (was Child-killing religion)) On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 7:33 AM, Lance A. Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Ronn! Blankenship

Re: Off-topic., monotonous posting (was Child-killing religion)

2008-08-21 Thread William T Goodall
On 21 Aug 2008, at 18:13, Max Battcher wrote: > William T Goodall wrote: >> There are no 'technical or procedural' reasons for objecting to my >> posts on the matter of religion: it's an attempt by some to silence >> the expression of views they don't like plain and simple. > > Are you kidding?

Re: Off-topic., monotonous posting (was Child-killing religion)

2008-08-21 Thread Max Battcher
William T Goodall wrote: > There are no 'technical or procedural' reasons for objecting to my > posts on the matter of religion: it's an attempt by some to silence > the expression of views they don't like plain and simple. Are you kidding? This is entirely about technical/procedural objecti

Re: Off-topic., monotonous posting (was Child-killing religion)

2008-08-21 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Aug 21, 2008, at 10:57 AM, Nick Arnett wrote: > On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 8:19 AM, Bruce Bostwick > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > > William's objection >> >> seems to be that the decision to moderate him > > > There has been no such decision. We remain extremely reluctant to > moderate > anybod

Re: Off-topic., monotonous posting (was Child-killing religion)

2008-08-21 Thread William T Goodall
On 21 Aug 2008, at 16:19, Bruce Bostwick wrote: > I haven't weighed in on this yet because I'm sort of a newbie on this > list, and there's probably history to this that I'm missing, but I'm > very familiar with lists where I'm not especailly interested in (or > necessarily agree with) every pos

Re: Off-topic., monotonous posting (was Child-killing religion)

2008-08-21 Thread Nick Arnett
On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 8:19 AM, Bruce Bostwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: William's objection > > seems to be that the decision to moderate him There has been no such decision. We remain extremely reluctant to moderate anybody, for the very reasons you cite. There is discussion, which is nec

Re: Off-topic., monotonous posting (was Child-killing religion)

2008-08-21 Thread Bruce Bostwick
I haven't weighed in on this yet because I'm sort of a newbie on this list, and there's probably history to this that I'm missing, but I'm very familiar with lists where I'm not especailly interested in (or necessarily agree with) every post I get on every list. Some are offensive, some a

Re: Apology (was Re: Off-topic., monotonous posting (was Child-killing religion))

2008-08-21 Thread Nick Arnett
On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 7:33 AM, Lance A. Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > Ronn! Blankenship wrote: > > If they are indeed _silent_, what makes you think they agree with you? > > He's a mind reader. Doesn't believe in religion, but does believe in > telepathy. :-) > > The Amazing William Maru

Re: Apology (was Re: Off-topic., monotonous posting (was Child-killing religion))

2008-08-21 Thread Lance A. Brown
Ronn! Blankenship wrote: > If they are indeed _silent_, what makes you think they agree with you? He's a mind reader. Doesn't believe in religion, but does believe in telepathy. :-) The Amazing William Maru --[Lance] -- GPG Fingerprint: 409B A409 A38D 92BF 15D9 6EEE 9A82 F2AC 69AC 07B9 CACe

Re: Apology (was Re: Off-topic., monotonous posting (was Child-killing religion))

2008-08-21 Thread Lance A. Brown
Pat Mathews wrote: > I can't speak for other members of the list's silent majority. I, for > one, see another news article on some cult or its members run > amok,yawn, and hit Delete. Ditto. --[Lance] -- GPG Fingerprint: 409B A409 A38D 92BF 15D9 6EEE 9A82 F2AC 69AC 07B9 CACert.org Assurer ___

Re: Apology (was Re: Off-topic., monotonous posting (was Child-killing religion))

2008-08-21 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
At 08:38 AM Thursday 8/21/2008, William T Goodall wrote: >On 21 Aug 2008, at 14:07, Pat Mathews wrote: > > > > > I can't speak for other members of the list's silent majority. I, > > for one, see another news article on some cult or its members run > > amok,yawn, and hit Delete. > > > > Just though

Re: Apology (was Re: Off-topic., monotonous posting (was Child-killing religion))

2008-08-21 Thread William T Goodall
On 21 Aug 2008, at 14:07, Pat Mathews wrote: > > I can't speak for other members of the list's silent majority. I, > for one, see another news article on some cult or its members run > amok,yawn, and hit Delete. > > Just thought you'd want to know. > What makes you think you're part of the l

RE: Apology (was Re: Off-topic., monotonous posting (was Child-killing religion))

2008-08-21 Thread Pat Mathews
: brin-l@mccmedia.com > Subject: Re: Apology (was Re: Off-topic., monotonous posting (was > Child-killing religion)) > Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 11:55:55 +0100 > > > On 21 Aug 2008, at 11:04, Charlie Bell wrote: > > > > > On 21/08/2008, at 7:48 PM, William T Goodall wro

Re: Off-topic., monotonous posting (was Child-killing religion)

2008-08-21 Thread William T Goodall
On 21 Aug 2008, at 00:47, Kevin B. O'Brien wrote: > William T Goodall wrote: >> On 20 Aug 2008, at 16:13, Olin Elliott wrote: >> >> >>> By that description, 99% of the postings are off topic. >>> >>> >> >> >> And I'm not even the most frequent poster! >> > You are, however, the most monotonous an

Re: Apology (was Re: Off-topic., monotonous posting (was Child-killing religion))

2008-08-21 Thread William T Goodall
On 21 Aug 2008, at 11:04, Charlie Bell wrote: > > On 21/08/2008, at 7:48 PM, William T Goodall wrote: >> >> Newness is a rather high standard to set. Most of the arguments are >> quite old but still not settled. > > But you're not arguing, you're just posting third party articles that > reinforce

Re: Off-topic., monotonous posting (was Child-killing religion)

2008-08-21 Thread Kevin B. O'Brien
William T Goodall wrote: > On 20 Aug 2008, at 16:13, Olin Elliott wrote: > > >> By that description, 99% of the postings are off topic. >> >> > > > And I'm not even the most frequent poster! > You are, however, the most monotonous and boring. -- Kevin B. O'Brien TANSTAAFL [EMAI

Re: Apology (was Re: Off-topic., monotonous posting (was Child-killing religion))

2008-08-21 Thread Charlie Bell
On 21/08/2008, at 7:48 PM, William T Goodall wrote: > > Newness is a rather high standard to set. Most of the arguments are > quite old but still not settled. But you're not arguing, you're just posting third party articles that reinforce your worldview. > > The silent majority on the list love

Re: Apology (was Re: Off-topic., monotonous posting (was Child-killing religion))

2008-08-21 Thread William T Goodall
On 20 Aug 2008, at 21:04, Dave Land wrote: > William, > > If you have something new to contribute to the discussion, I, for one, > welcome it. Newness is a rather high standard to set. Most of the arguments are quite old but still not settled. > > > If you have more of the same with which to

Re: Apology (was Re: Off-topic., monotonous posting (was Child-killing religion))

2008-08-21 Thread Dave Land
William, If you have something new to contribute to the discussion, I, for one, welcome it. If you have more of the same with which to spam the list, then I, for one, do not. I know that I can simply skip or delete your messages, but where is the spirit of IAAMOAC, forcing your fellow list

Re: Apology (was Re: Off-topic., monotonous posting (was Child-killing religion))

2008-08-21 Thread David Hobby
William T Goodall wrote: > On 20 Aug 2008, at 15:12, Nick Arnett wrote: > >> William, >> This is not a discussion list about religion. I don't think we've >> ever >> moderated anybody for frequent off-topic posting, but I'm growing >> increasingly concerned that many of your postings are a dist

Re: Apology (was Re: Off-topic., monotonous posting (was Child-killing religion))

2008-08-21 Thread Alberto Monteiro
William T Goodall wrote: > > I think it's clear than Nick's behaviour here is quite inappropriate > and deserves censure in the strongest terms. What happened to IAAMOAC? > > It's clear Nick doesn't like my opinions. It's even clearer that > he's abusing his position in the most egregious ma

Re: Off-topic., monotonous posting (was Child-killing religion)

2008-08-21 Thread Kevin B. O'Brien
Nick Arnett wrote: > Your anti-religious postings are trivial. That's the problem. Science > versus religion is a perfectly reasonable topic here. That's not what > you're offering us. > I think I am seeing both sides to some degree. I have unsubbed from other lists because of people who cou

Apology (was Re: Off-topic., monotonous posting (was Child-killing religion))

2008-08-20 Thread William T Goodall
On 20 Aug 2008, at 15:12, Nick Arnett wrote: > William, > This is not a discussion list about religion. I don't think we've > ever > moderated anybody for frequent off-topic posting, but I'm growing > increasingly concerned that many of your postings are a distraction > and > offensive to so

Re: Off-topic., monotonous posting (was Child-killing religion)

2008-08-20 Thread William T Goodall
On 20 Aug 2008, at 16:13, Olin Elliott wrote: > By that description, 99% of the postings are off topic. > And I'm not even the most frequent poster! Agenda Maru "The word god is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honourabl

Re: Off-topic., monotonous posting (was Child-killing religion)

2008-08-20 Thread William T Goodall
On 20 Aug 2008, at 16:22, Nick Arnett wrote: > On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 8:10 AM, William T Goodall <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >wrote: >> >> >> Don't read it then. I certainly don't read every post to this list. > > > Bzzzt. As you know, I am one of the list managers and as a group, > we do and > we

Re: Off-topic., monotonous posting (was Child-killing religion)

2008-08-20 Thread Nick Arnett
On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 8:10 AM, William T Goodall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > > > Don't read it then. I certainly don't read every post to this list. Bzzzt. As you know, I am one of the list managers and as a group, we do and we will read all the messages. > > I'm growing increasingly concerne

Re: Off-topic., monotonous posting (was Child-killing religion)

2008-08-20 Thread Olin Elliott
By that description, 99% of the postings are off topic. Olin - Original Message - From: Nick Arnett To: Killer Bs (David Brin et al) Discussion Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 7:12 AM Subject: Off-topic., monotonous postin

Re: Off-topic., monotonous posting (was Child-killing religion)

2008-08-20 Thread William T Goodall
On 20 Aug 2008, at 15:12, Nick Arnett wrote: > William, > This is not a discussion list about religion "All is Brin". > . I don't think we've ever > moderated anybody for frequent off-topic posting, but I'm growing > increasingly concerned that many of your postings are a distraction > and