http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/world/africa/1677073.stm
What are you trying to suggest? That Africans are incapable of making
informed decsisions?
No, they are not incapable of making informed decisions...it's just that,
like everyone else, they can be influenced by false statements and be
Arrg, idea not finished.
No, they are not incapable of making informed decisions...it's just that,
like everyone else, they can be influenced by false statements and be
pressured. Are you arguing that that the precipitous drop in DDT use in
Third World countries
after pressure was applied
- Original Message -
From: Martin Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 4:35 PM
Subject: Re: The Other Christianity (was Re: Babble theory, and comments)
On Apr 6, 2005 10:00 PM, Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote
--- Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Oh, I just found an interesting long article on it
http://www.cis.org.au/policy/Spring01/polspr01-1.pdf
IMHO, Martin, the evidence given in this report
looks pretty good. But, of
course, if you see problems with this report, I'm
open to seeing
--- Martin Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Except, of course, that's not true.
http://www.who.int/malaria/vectorcontrol.html
Nice smear though.
Martin
And we refuse to fund DDT usage why, exactly? The
environmental movement has (and, in fact, continues
to) push for a worldwide ban
At 03:48 PM Wednesday 4/6/2005, Dan Minette wrote:
I guess what really struck me was how Bush was criticized for going the UN
route in Sudan and not going it in Iraq. On a practical basis, I could see
the criticism...but it seemed to me that your argument wasn't a nuts and
bolts argument about
--- Warren Ockrassa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Because DDT thins birds' egg shells. The biggest
reason bald eagles are
endangered is DDT -- it thinned the birds' shells so
drastically that
many embryos never survived to full development.
Is that a sufficient reason?
Well, first, no, it's
On Wed, 06 Apr 2005 18:19:34 -0500, Ronn!Blankenship wrote
Not meant as an insult toward anyone here, but it has been my
observation that many who object to the war in Iraq have as their
basic principle that Bush is evil.
Yuck, may I say. The battle for good and evil is not out there
On Wed, 6 Apr 2005 16:48:44 -0700 (PDT), Gautam Mukunda wrote
If Iraq does end up as a stable
democracy - and the odds of that are higher than they
have ever been in all of Iraqi history - are you going
to come back and admit that those evil
neoconservatives destroyed one of the vilest
At 07:07 PM Wednesday 4/6/2005, Nick Arnett wrote:
On Wed, 06 Apr 2005 18:19:34 -0500, Ronn!Blankenship wrote
Not meant as an insult toward anyone here, but it has been my
observation that many who object to the war in Iraq have as their
basic principle that Bush is evil.
Yuck, may I say. The
Gautam Mukunda wrote:
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Here's a listmate, making a perfectly reasonable
request for
suggestions, and she gets an insult instead.
Dave
No, it was an assessment of _someone else_. I wasn't
insulting her. I do think his version of God's
Politics might as well be titled
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To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 7:30 PM
Subject: Re: The Other Christianity (was Re: Babble theory, and comments)
I'd love to see a
reasoned, civil discussion on the question
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From: Nick Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 7:23 PM
Subject: Re: The Other Christianity (was Re: Babble theory, and comments)
On Wed, 6 Apr 2005 16:48:44 -0700 (PDT), Gautam Mukunda wrote
In a message dated 4/6/2005 12:16:47 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Rich white liberals could demonstrate how moral they
were - they were _Concerned_ about the environment -
without really giving up anything, because malaria had
already been wiped out in their countries,
Gautam Mukunda wrote:
--- Warren Ockrassa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Because DDT thins birds' egg shells. The biggest
reason bald eagles are
endangered is DDT -- it thinned the birds' shells so
drastically that
many embryos never survived to full development.
Is that a sufficient reason?
Dave Land wrote:
As to your assumptions about my motives (seems meant only to be a poor
attempt to make me look...), we're all fond of Julie, but that had
nothing to do with my joining the fray.
All fond? That's very flattering. I'm not sure it's entirely accurate,
but I'm flattered by the
Nick Arnett wrote:
On Wed, 6 Apr 2005 09:16:02 -0700 (PDT), Gautam Mukunda wrote
As for criticism, I don't object to helpful criticism. But I don't think
that's the spirit of most criticism from the left these days, or more
generally, of most of the criticism in mass media these days. And
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From: Gautam Mukunda [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 5:45 PM
Subject: Re: The Other Christianity (was Re: Babble theory, and comments)
I've seen him on TV and found him to be a stunningly
unimpresive
Julia Thompson wrote:
2) I'm wondering how much Gautam knows about Jim Wallis' ideas to
call them bad. I think a debate on the merits and demerits of
Wallis's ideas would be interesting and would edify me without my
having to darken the doors of Barnes Noble, or add to the giant
sucking
Robert Seeberger wrote:
Julia Thompson wrote:
2) I'm wondering how much Gautam knows about Jim Wallis' ideas to
call them bad. I think a debate on the merits and demerits of
Wallis's ideas would be interesting and would edify me without my
having to darken the doors of Barnes Noble, or add to
Julia Thompson wrote:
Robert Seeberger wrote:
Julia Thompson wrote:
2) I'm wondering how much Gautam knows about Jim Wallis' ideas to
call them bad. I think a debate on the merits and demerits of
Wallis's ideas would be interesting and would edify me without my
having to darken the doors
--- Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I googled and read some of his interviews and quotes
from the past year.
This is not meant to be insulting Gautam, but he
appears to hold _your_
position on a number of issues. Clearly, not on the
Iraq war, but even on
the question of pacifism and
At 09:33 PM Wednesday 4/6/2005, Julia Thompson wrote:
Robert Seeberger wrote:
Julia Thompson wrote:
2) I'm wondering how much Gautam knows about Jim Wallis' ideas to
call them bad. I think a debate on the merits and demerits of
Wallis's ideas would be interesting and would edify me without my
At 09:44 PM Wednesday 4/6/2005, Robert Seeberger wrote:
Julia Thompson wrote:
I can always hope, can't I? :)
Julia
I was thinking much the same thing before I went to
http://www.nice-tits.org/
Was I wrong for that?
G
xponent
Libido'R'Us Maru
rob
From all I hear, finding the other type
--- Nick Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Are you saying that Warren been trying to prevent
democracy in Iraq?
Functionally, yes.
Are you saying that war is the only way to get rid
of an evil dictator? Or
war was the only way to get rid of this one? Am I
mistaken in believing that
Gautam wrote:
By the way, Pedro looked good in his first start for
the mets.
Yes, he looked excellent. Let's just hope that he's
rehabbed his shoulder properly.
Hey, hey, hey, how about that Kirk Saarloos one hitting your Orioles
tonight!
Thank goodness for baseball season. Go A's!
--
Doug
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From: Gautam Mukunda [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 10:33 PM
Subject: Re: The Other Christianity (was Re: Babble theory, and comments)
Haven't read the book - nothing I saw about him
suggested even
Gautam Mukunda wrote:
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
By the way, Pedro looked good in his first start for
the mets.
Yes, he looked excellent. Let's just hope that he's
rehabbed his shoulder properly.
Just for the record, I'm not happy about this.
I hate the Mets.
Nothing personal, just the 1986
--- Doug Pensinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hey, hey, hey, how about that Kirk Saarloos one
hitting your Orioles
tonight!
Thank goodness for baseball season. Go A's!
--
Doug
Gee, thanks Doug (:-)), I didn't know that until I
read it on list :-( This is my first day reading the
list
Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
At 09:44 PM Wednesday 4/6/2005, Robert Seeberger wrote:
Julia Thompson wrote:
I can always hope, can't I? :)
Julia
I was thinking much the same thing before I went to
http://www.nice-tits.org/
Was I wrong for that?
G
xponent
Libido'R'Us Maru
rob
From
On 5 Apr 2005, at 8:34 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ironically, viewing the Bible metaphorically strengthens, rather than
weakens it, freeing it from the crazy idea that it must be considered
factual in every respect. Untold millions of intelligent, sensitive
people have been turned off by this
On Tue, 5 Apr 2005 10:48:50 +0100, William T Goodall wrote
But the fundamentalists are the fastest growing Christian sects.
I see this as part of a trend that goes far beyond Christianity and far beyond
religion. Fundamentalism of all sorts is on the rise, which I think is a
typical outcome
On Apr 5, 2005, at 2:48 AM, William T Goodall wrote:
But the fundamentalists are the fastest growing Christian sects.
All the more reason for those of us who are not fundamentalists to act
now.
Preserve it as a quaint irrelevant historical artifact. Which is fine
:)
You are certainly in line with
On Tue, 5 Apr 2005, Nick Arnett wrote:
On Tue, 5 Apr 2005 10:48:50 +0100, William T Goodall wrote
But the fundamentalists are the fastest growing Christian sects.
I see this as part of a trend that goes far beyond Christianity and far
beyond religion. Fundamentalism of all sorts is on
On Tue, 5 Apr 2005 15:18:06 -0500 (CDT), Julia Thompson wrote
I've been hearing a lot about Jim Wallis lately. Aside from trying
to get back issues of Sojourners (which I am not going to attempt
this year), what would you suggest of his?
His book, God's Politics. It's a best-seller. I
--- Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've been hearing a lot about Jim Wallis lately.
Aside from trying to get
back issues of Sojourners (which I am not going to
attempt this year),
what would you suggest of his?
Julia
I've seen him on TV and found him to be a stunningly
On Tue, 5 Apr 2005 15:45:12 -0700 (PDT), Gautam Mukunda wrote
I've seen him on TV and found him to be a stunningly
unimpresive figure...
I've been following his writings for 20 years, finally heard him speak in
person a few weeks ago, and talked to him for a short time about how on earth
one
Nick Arnett wrote:
On Tue, 5 Apr 2005 15:45:12 -0700 (PDT), Gautam Mukunda wrote
I've seen him on TV and found him to be a stunningly
unimpresive figure...
I've been following his writings for 20 years, finally heard him speak in
person a few weeks ago, and talked to him for a short time about
On Apr 5, 2005, at 7:14 PM, Julia Thompson wrote:
Nick Arnett wrote:
On Tue, 5 Apr 2005 15:45:12 -0700 (PDT), Gautam Mukunda wrote
I've seen him on TV and found him to be a stunningly
unimpresive figure...
I've been following his writings for 20 years, finally heard him
speak in person a few
On Tue, 5 Apr 2005, Dave Land wrote:
On Apr 5, 2005, at 7:14 PM, Julia Thompson wrote:
Nick Arnett wrote:
On Tue, 5 Apr 2005 15:45:12 -0700 (PDT), Gautam Mukunda wrote
I've seen him on TV and found him to be a stunningly
unimpresive figure...
I've been following his writings for 20
On Tue, 05 Apr 2005 21:14:32 -0500, Julia Thompson wrote
OK, do we have anyone here who's personally met him, or do I have to
bug my sister for that?
I have. But it was a short conversation.
Nick
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--- Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've been hearing a lot about Jim Wallis lately.
Aside from trying to get back issues of Sojourners
(which I am not going to attempt this year), what
would you suggest of his?
I've seen him on TV and found him to be a stunningly
unimpresive
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