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The second part (altruism is an outcome of
evolution) is circular, since it assumes that our characteristics are
derived exclusively from evolutionary processes. Even if true,
it
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Isn't the reasonable response to imperfect knowledge to rationally
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That gives me the impression that you think we're some kind of science
experiment.
I don't think that's a logical conclusion. The point is that solving one
mystery, such as the origin
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Deborah Harrell wrote:
Ping?
Pong. I'm waiting to hear from Nick as to just what happened there.
at Verio, so it
should be able to handle a fairly hefty load.
We're eager for article submissions and looking for volunteer editors, who
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The British apparently believed it. The Americans knew better.
What concerns me more is that there is a very thorough system for reviewing
anything that the U.S. president says in
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Well, I am sorry about that. This is an issue that is
striking a little close to the heart, though. There
is a pervasive dishonesty that has crept into this
issue where we have
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You would have to believe that they invaded Iraq
knowing that, after the country was defeated, it would
be revealed that there was nothing there.
No. It's not a Boolean. They could
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Only to the extent that the possession of _any_ WMDs
by Iraq immediately makes the war fully legal under
international law. Any at all.
What does that have to do with whether or not
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The primary role of a leader is to keep his/her country safe and its
borders protected. If he were to ignore clear threats to his country's
security by refusing to defend against them he
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Well, I've not been posting for a while because I've been overwhelmed with
1) Planning my parents' funerals
that the
consequences of inaction in response to the ET presence is a very real
threat to human sovereignty.
An online version of the Research Study is available at
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No, we are at war because September 11th caused this President to
recognize
that we had long since been at war in a way that we had not previously
recognized.Moreover, 9/11
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Sorry Nick, but if you can find me someone who thought that the British
reports of Iraqi atempts to acquire uranium in Africa was the lynchpin of
the war argument, then maybe this
of that incident bother me quite a bit.
And I'm not comfortable with the government telling anyone, You're
violating a secret rule. It was funny in Animal House (double-secret
probation) but not so much in real life.
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. If I never touch a keyboard again, that might go a long way in
that direction... ;-)
And now you know too much about my day.
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Taken advantage of by people more interested in
political power than the national interest.
This sounds to me about as rational as characterizing the right as people
more interested
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You, sir, are an idiot.
I'm having a hard time seeing that sentence as anything other than a
personal attack. Please refrain from that sort of generalization.
Nick
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The Joint Chiefs could probably do a pretty good job
of it. They could do no worse than the people running
them now, certainly. But, Nick, the war against
terrorism is more
Send me the headers for something that bounced. Obviously, this message of
yours didn't.
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I would contend that had Gore won the
post 911 stuff would have gone the same. We would have gone into
Afghanastan with the same outcome. I would argue that Gore would
have been much
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Not sure if it's so clear to those of you who don't live here, but a lot of
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Enron _and_ the Bush administration.
Or is that what you meant?
Sort of. Except that there's some superset that they're both part of, which
I dare not name. ;-)
Nick
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Umm, and since when have the Presidents of the USA been in the habit of
basing their policy statements on intelligence reports from other
countries without having their own agencies verify the
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At 07:52 AM 7/24/2003 -0700 Nick
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The State of the Union is irrelevant to this example.
But it is not irrelevant because this is THE major policy speech
that the president makes every year. This speech is worked on
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Which of course brings us back to a, b, c, or d - all of which would be
consistent with not using it in the State of the Union?Care to give it
one more shot Bob?How about you,
, that issue will be moot.
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To say that this person's position is no
different from the
Bush Administration totally ignores the fact that a person
posting on a list
most of the time has absolutely no
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What a terrible shock. I hope it is operable; at
least he's in a great institution.
Stanford certainly is. I wish I hadn't had so much experience with it,
though!
From the MRI,
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Most people who have studied it say that rape is a crime of
_violence_, and
that the sexual assault is only the way in which it is carried
out. I fail
to see the legitimate need a
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Again, a straw man. Nobody is saying that people do these things because
they can't deal with their needs legitimately.
That is what it sounded like you were saying:
It's the
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http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/news/08132003_nw_paintball.html
In Pittsburgh, 3 teenagers were shooting paintballs from a moving
vehicle, and someone living there decided to return fire
support from literally hundreds of people, including many
of the Brin-L community. Thank you!
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When are we going to wake up and realize that people want to get
high? From the mild stimulus of caffeine, the outwardly
innocuousness of nicotine and the destructiveness of alcohol.
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So let's talk openly about them here. What are those legitimate needs
which you believe are denied, and how do you think those needs
should be met?
I think I already gave a number of
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(1) So if [I] put words in [your] head by saying that [their legitimate
needs] are denied, by denial of legitimate needs do you mean
self-denial
by the person with the needs, or
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I had at least 5 attempts to infect my PC tonight.
Anyone else getting hits?
The list addresses -- brin-l and mailman's internal list -- are getting hit
hard. There were already
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Oh, and one other thing -- we've gotten error messages indicating that
some copies of the virus went out with [EMAIL PROTECTED] as the
from, and I *know* that's not right. So if
switched MTAs from our ISP to our local server. This at least
should allow me to see what's happening when mail delivery is attempted.
I'm confounded. Or perhaps befuddled. It's hard to tell the difference.
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The list doesn't seem much better this morning... so I've removed some lock
files that were hanging around even when Mailman, the list server software,
was shut down. Perhaps *that* will end this madness.
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This time, I'll actually send it from Yahoo (oops).
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The logs look a bit more encouraging, so I'm calling it a night. I hope to
get up in the morning to find a properly behaving list. It's been an
adventure.
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Okay, folks, I think I found the problem. It's a bug in Mailman, triggered
by a username that contains 8-bit characters. I've just patched the code
and I hope that'll take care of the problem, but I'm continuing to try to
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Thanks!
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I'm sending another message
I'm sending another message just so that I can watch the mail log right
afterwards... please ignore.
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Testing to the list from Yahoo...
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difficulties.
Maybe the evil worm that's been clogging so many mailboxes actually messed
something up, although I am quite certain it has not affected any machines
here.
Now I'll go look at the logs...
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Not sure what went wrong while I was away, but it apparently healed itself.
Unfortunately, my admin backup is my friend fighting brain cancer, so when
I'm away, it's difficult to cover this sort of problem.
Redundancy -- that's what we need!
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to use
the name, rather than the address (I'm not sure why it ever used the
address), it appears to me that mail is flowing again.
At last.
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I've upgraded Mailman from 2.1 to 2.1.2 and hope that now it'll behave. But
there's also a patch I think I need to apply...
Let's just see if this message gets out.
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Not sure if we're there yet or not. Somebody post to the list! If I
weren't getting my own messages, this would be easier!
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Now, what can you tell me about the number 28?
Julia
It is nominally the number of days in a month.
It is a perfect number, the only even perfect number that
is a
getting
authorities in either country to take any action.
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away with this because my
daughter carried twins *and* has diabetes. As some here may know, women
with diabetes accumulate far more amniotic fluid, so they are even
bigger. And Carrie isn't very big to start with, so she was enormous.
Extra-super-wide-angle lens...
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? It almost has that... although it's more like Riverdance
v. tap. Pretty funny.
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my business partner and
me his business card with some encouraging words.
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Jan Coffey wrote:
It's called being shmoozed... you'll get use to itand then you will
learn to detest it.
That seems like a rather strong judgment to make with no information
about what was said... and I think you must not know my background, or
you'd realize I'm pretty good at knowing when
, sound, printer - can't use them
CDRW - can't use it
DVDROM - works as a CDROM
synaptic - installs lots of game packages, but the user can't see them
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, but then seems to constipate, which it really shouldn't do if it's
shunting properly.
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help until the real
solution is found.
It already is a couple of scripts, but it just seems goofy to use that
approach... but given that it keeps happening, albeit irregularly,
perhaps I'll do just that.
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with
- and condone - my choice,' that, to me, is religious bigotry, and I
believe that's intolerant. I think they are the ones that are crossing
the line here.
But this attitude is based on the *least* compassionate interpretation
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is
-- about doing list stuff, not about getting home).
But now I see that we have a report that the twins' IPO is completed...
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to Colorado, where I'll be tempted to stay.
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will
be, but we have a couple of possibilities. Apple's List Guru, whom Dave
and I both know, lives a few doors away, for example.
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Pope Wally, the Lutheran pope, in Minnesota. Lake
Wogebon, I believe, is is home town.
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that program, it changes back to this page. This loader.exe program cannot be deleted, at least by normal means.
It *is* a browser hijacker and you'll find some fixes for it if you
search Google, etc. I'm surprised that SpyBot didn't flag it.
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connectivity.
We're thinking about all of these options now.
Anybody seeing similar stuff going on with other mail?
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Erik Reuter wrote:
On Wed, Oct 22, 2003 at 09:33:46AM -0700, Nick Arnett wrote:
Anybody seeing similar stuff going on with other mail?
I have only seen these delays with brin-l. I run postfix and procmail
on my linux box and process 100's of messages a day (most of them spam,
unfortunately
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to take risks with it. Seems
weird to have to eliminate a backup system to manage risk, though!
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We'll see.
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was the key to its oligopoly (back then, there were almost twice as many
labels -- seven!) and they knew it.
Darn Todd for moving to Hawaii. I don't bump into him nearly as often now.
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is at the top of our list. That
doesn't surprise me; our work has to do with incoming mail, not
outgoing, and brin-l is the most popular list we host.
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Julia's primary computer had a CPU fan failure, so she's off-line for a
while, possibly through the weekend. She's using her utility notebook
on another e-mail address in the meantime, so she's not seeing mail to
her regular address.
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north of here, so maybe...
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I were back in Pittsburgh (a bit) because it is much
further north, geomagnetically, than the Bay Area, even though
geographically the latitude is almost the same.
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Gary Nunn wrote:
An interesting interactive map of volcano's worldwide that are currently
active or in the news
I'm too lazy to look myself... so somebody tell me, is the Cocoa
discussion on that map?
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I'm too lazy to look myself... so somebody tell me, is the Cocoa
discussion on that map?
Naw, they stuffed a giant marshmallow down it's throat.
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three complaints.
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after I called them, but at the time, they couldn't see
anything wrong.
Anyway, we're back and that's why we were off the air. The server
problems we were having for a while seem to have been eliminated by the
work we did to reduce the impact of spammers on it.
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to the circumstances, just as it varies
among more ordinary courts. But I don't even hear any discussion of
what that standard should be, and so I imagine that our goal is to
convict and disappear them, not to make the difficult decision about
what is just.
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and will watch carefully for any
futher such nonsense.
Sorry for any inconvenience.
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it is more reliable, but it is hosted at
Verio, which leads it to be automatically blocked by a number of sites,
simply because Verio's virtual servers are often abused by spammers.
And that could mean undelivered mail, which is not good.
And so the battle continues!
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million records). I'm not sure what time things went south, but the
list was definitely down for a while.
We're back up... and perhaps things will STAY up!
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We clearly have a UPS that's being flakey. I'm not sure how long we
were off-line, but the cause was the UPS that powers a critical Ethernet
switch, as well as a backup server. It's out of the loop now...
Again, sorry for the interruption.
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... And if your message is rejected by our server, write to me at
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Perhaps it's just the upcoming U.S. holiday.
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We still apparently have some network flakiness -- everything locked up
today for a while. Mail and the list are catching up. I'm still trying
to figure out if it's internal or external.
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message, you'll need to re-submit your
message(s).
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...Inspired by Milton's Areopagitica, which was an argument of faith,
more than reason or history.
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science fiction here. ;-)
Nick
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You are not constipated. Take my word for it I am a neuroradiologist
Oddly, I've had two on-line discussions today and both featured this
subject. The other one had to do with Temodar, with which I suspect you
may be familiar.
Nick
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Bryon Daly wrote:
Wierd: the Winchester location described is only about 2.6 miles from my
house!
And August 22nd is my birthday.
It's a conspiracy!
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a kind of God helmet -- a headset that can induce the feeling
of an unseen presence by bathing the temples in electromagnetic
fields.
--Anjana Ahuja, God on the brain, The Times of London, April 17,
2003
Or perhaps it suggests that God works through our parietal lobes, in
particular.
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William T Goodall wrote:
On 9 Dec 2003, at 6:33 pm, Nick Arnett wrote:
Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
The findings suggest that our attitudes to religion are underpinned
by biology -that some brains are physically built to be more
receptive to divine thought, and that this explains why religion
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