RE: No conflicts between selfishness and morality? L3

2003-07-08 Thread Nick Arnett
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Doug Pensinger ... The second part (altruism is an outcome of evolution) is circular, since it assumes that our characteristics are derived exclusively from evolutionary processes. Even if true, it

RE: No conflicts between selfishness and morality?

2003-07-08 Thread Nick Arnett
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Erik Reuter Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 11:24 AM To: Killer Bs Discussion Subject: Re: No conflicts between selfishness and morality? Isn't the reasonable response to imperfect knowledge to rationally

RE: Religion based ethics

2003-07-09 Thread Nick Arnett
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Doug Pensinger ... That gives me the impression that you think we're some kind of science experiment. I don't think that's a logical conclusion. The point is that solving one mystery, such as the origin

RE: test

2003-07-10 Thread Nick Arnett
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Julia Thompson Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 9:18 PM To: Killer Bs Discussion Subject: Re: test Deborah Harrell wrote: Ping? Pong. I'm waiting to hear from Nick as to just what happened there.

My latest -- OpenSector.org

2003-07-10 Thread Nick Arnett
at Verio, so it should be able to handle a fairly hefty load. We're eager for article submissions and looking for volunteer editors, who will review and edit submissions, and have access to some back-end tools that we're building to help find relevant articles. -- Nick Arnett Phone/fax: (408) 904

RE: Seth Finkelstein on 16 words

2003-07-17 Thread Nick Arnett
. intelligence services or top elected officials could get this right. -- Nick Arnett Phone/fax: (408) 904-7198 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

RE: Seth Finkelstein on 16 words

2003-07-17 Thread Nick Arnett
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... The British apparently believed it. The Americans knew better. What concerns me more is that there is a very thorough system for reviewing anything that the U.S. president says in

RE: Seth Finkelstein on 16 words

2003-07-18 Thread Nick Arnett
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Gautam Mukunda ... Well, I am sorry about that. This is an issue that is striking a little close to the heart, though. There is a pervasive dishonesty that has crept into this issue where we have

RE: What would you have to believe?

2003-07-18 Thread Nick Arnett
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Gautam Mukunda ... You would have to believe that they invaded Iraq knowing that, after the country was defeated, it would be revealed that there was nothing there. No. It's not a Boolean. They could

RE: What would you have to believe?

2003-07-18 Thread Nick Arnett
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Gautam Mukunda ... Only to the extent that the possession of _any_ WMDs by Iraq immediately makes the war fully legal under international law. Any at all. What does that have to do with whether or not

RE: Seth Finkelstein on 16 words

2003-07-19 Thread Nick Arnett
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jon Gabriel ... The primary role of a leader is to keep his/her country safe and its borders protected. If he were to ignore clear threats to his country's security by refusing to defend against them he

RE: I'm back

2003-07-19 Thread Nick Arnett
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dan Minette Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2003 2:19 PM To: Killer Bs Discussion Subject: I'm back Well, I've not been posting for a while because I've been overwhelmed with 1) Planning my parents' funerals

Research on ET penetration of government

2003-07-20 Thread Nick Arnett
that the consequences of inaction in response to the ET presence is a very real threat to human sovereignty. An online version of the Research Study is available at http://www.exopolitics.org -- Nick Arnett Phone/fax: (408) 904-7198 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http

When does it end? (RE: Seth Finkelstein on 16 words)

2003-07-21 Thread Nick Arnett
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of John D. Giorgis ... No, we are at war because September 11th caused this President to recognize that we had long since been at war in a way that we had not previously recognized.Moreover, 9/11

RE: Seth Finkelstein on 16 words

2003-07-21 Thread Nick Arnett
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of John D. Giorgis ... Sorry Nick, but if you can find me someone who thought that the British reports of Iraqi atempts to acquire uranium in Africa was the lynchpin of the war argument, then maybe this

RE: [L3] Multimillionaire John Gilmore is suing the government toremain anonymous

2003-07-22 Thread Nick Arnett
of that incident bother me quite a bit. And I'm not comfortable with the government telling anyone, You're violating a secret rule. It was funny in Animal House (double-secret probation) but not so much in real life. -- Nick Arnett Phone/fax: (408) 904-7198 [EMAIL PROTECTED

Admin: Strange day for computers here

2003-07-22 Thread Nick Arnett
. If I never touch a keyboard again, that might go a long way in that direction... ;-) And now you know too much about my day. -- Nick Arnett Phone/fax: (408) 904-7198 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

RE: Seth Finkelstein on 16 words

2003-07-24 Thread Nick Arnett
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Gautam Mukunda ... Taken advantage of by people more interested in political power than the national interest. This sounds to me about as rational as characterizing the right as people more interested

RE: Seth Finkelstein on 16 words

2003-07-24 Thread Nick Arnett
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kevin Tarr ... You, sir, are an idiot. I'm having a hard time seeing that sentence as anything other than a personal attack. Please refrain from that sort of generalization. Nick

RE: Seth Finkelstein on 16 words

2003-07-24 Thread Nick Arnett
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Gautam Mukunda ... The Joint Chiefs could probably do a pretty good job of it. They could do no worse than the people running them now, certainly. But, Nick, the war against terrorism is more

RE: Arrgh!

2003-07-24 Thread Nick Arnett
Send me the headers for something that bounced. Obviously, this message of yours didn't. -- Nick Arnett Phone/fax: (408) 904-7198 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jon Gabriel Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 1:12 PM

RE: Seth Finkelstein on 16 words

2003-07-24 Thread Nick Arnett
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] I would contend that had Gore won the post 911 stuff would have gone the same. We would have gone into Afghanastan with the same outcome. I would argue that Gore would have been much

RE: Gray Davis Recall Election Set for Sep-Oct

2003-07-24 Thread Nick Arnett
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of John D. Giorgis Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 8:14 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Gray Davis Recall Election Set for Sep-Oct Not sure if it's so clear to those of you who don't live here, but a lot of

RE: Gray Davis Recall Election Set for Sep-Oct

2003-07-25 Thread Nick Arnett
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of pencimen ... Enron _and_ the Bush administration. Or is that what you meant? Sort of. Except that there's some superset that they're both part of, which I dare not name. ;-) Nick

RE: Seth Finkelstein on 16 words

2003-07-25 Thread Nick Arnett
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ritu Umm, and since when have the Presidents of the USA been in the habit of basing their policy statements on intelligence reports from other countries without having their own agencies verify the

RE: Seth Finkelstein on 16 words

2003-07-27 Thread Nick Arnett
Arnett Phone/fax: (408) 904-7198 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of John D. Giorgis Sent: Friday, July 25, 2003 7:28 PM To: Killer Bs Discussion Subject: RE: Seth Finkelstein on 16 words At 07:52 AM 7/24/2003 -0700 Nick

RE: Gray Davis Recall Election Set for Sep-Oct

2003-07-27 Thread Nick Arnett
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ronn!Blankenship Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2003 3:20 PM To: Killer Bs Discussion Subject: RE: Gray Davis Recall Election Set for Sep-Oct At 07:51 AM 7/25/03 -0700, Nick Arnett wrote: -Original

RE: Seth Finkelstein on 16 words

2003-07-28 Thread Nick Arnett
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... The State of the Union is irrelevant to this example. But it is not irrelevant because this is THE major policy speech that the president makes every year. This speech is worked on

RE: Seth Finkelstein on 16 words

2003-07-29 Thread Nick Arnett
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of John D. Giorgis ... Which of course brings us back to a, b, c, or d - all of which would be consistent with not using it in the State of the Union?Care to give it one more shot Bob?How about you,

ADMIN: Julia and Jose are running the show, mostly

2003-08-03 Thread Nick Arnett
, that issue will be moot. Nick -- Nick Arnett Phone/fax: (408) 904-7198 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

RE: shrubCo's faith-based prison program an absolute failure

2003-08-09 Thread Nick Arnett
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] To say that this person's position is no different from the Bush Administration totally ignores the fact that a person posting on a list most of the time has absolutely no

RE: ADMIN: Julia and Jose are running the show, mostly

2003-08-14 Thread Nick Arnett
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Deborah Harrell ... What a terrible shock. I hope it is operable; at least he's in a great institution. Stanford certainly is. I wish I hadn't had so much experience with it, though! From the MRI,

RE: Scouted: Okay to execute innocent?

2003-08-14 Thread Nick Arnett
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ronn!Blankenship ... Most people who have studied it say that rape is a crime of _violence_, and that the sexual assault is only the way in which it is carried out. I fail to see the legitimate need a

RE: Scouted: Okay to execute innocent?

2003-08-14 Thread Nick Arnett
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ronn!Blankenship ... Again, a straw man. Nobody is saying that people do these things because they can't deal with their needs legitimately. That is what it sounded like you were saying: It's the

RE: Be careful what you shoot at whom....

2003-08-14 Thread Nick Arnett
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Julia Thompson ... http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/news/08132003_nw_paintball.html In Pittsburgh, 3 teenagers were shooting paintballs from a moving vehicle, and someone living there decided to return fire

Update on Nick's friend/biz partner

2003-08-14 Thread Nick Arnett
support from literally hundreds of people, including many of the Brin-L community. Thank you! Nick -- Nick Arnett Phone/fax: (408) 904-7198 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

RE: Drugs (was Most Dangerous States)

2003-08-19 Thread Nick Arnett
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Doug Pensinger ... When are we going to wake up and realize that people want to get high? From the mild stimulus of caffeine, the outwardly innocuousness of nicotine and the destructiveness of alcohol.

RE: Drugs (was Most Dangerous States)

2003-08-19 Thread Nick Arnett
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ronn!Blankenship So let's talk openly about them here. What are those legitimate needs which you believe are denied, and how do you think those needs should be met? I think I already gave a number of

RE: Drugs (was Most Dangerous States)

2003-08-20 Thread Nick Arnett
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ronn!Blankenship ... (1) So if [I] put words in [your] head by saying that [their legitimate needs] are denied, by denial of legitimate needs do you mean self-denial by the person with the needs, or

RE: Worm Week

2003-08-20 Thread Nick Arnett
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Robert Seeberger ... I had at least 5 attempts to infect my PC tonight. Anyone else getting hits? The list addresses -- brin-l and mailman's internal list -- are getting hit hard. There were already

RE: Worm Week

2003-08-20 Thread Nick Arnett
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Julia Thompson ... Oh, and one other thing -- we've gotten error messages indicating that some copies of the virus went out with [EMAIL PROTECTED] as the from, and I *know* that's not right. So if

ADMIN: Back to our MTA

2003-08-26 Thread Nick Arnett
switched MTAs from our ISP to our local server. This at least should allow me to see what's happening when mail delivery is attempted. I'm confounded. Or perhaps befuddled. It's hard to tell the difference. -- Nick Arnett Phone/fax: (408) 904-7198 [EMAIL PROTECTED

ADMIN: More possible fixes

2003-08-26 Thread Nick Arnett
The list doesn't seem much better this morning... so I've removed some lock files that were hanging around even when Mailman, the list server software, was shut down. Perhaps *that* will end this madness. -- Nick Arnett Phone/fax: (408) 904-7198 [EMAIL PROTECTED

FW: ADMIN: Another test from Yahoo...

2003-08-26 Thread Nick Arnett
This time, I'll actually send it from Yahoo (oops). -- Nick Arnett Phone/fax: (408) 904-7198 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Nick Arnett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 25, 2003 10:21 PM To: Killer Bs Discussion Subject: ADMIN: Another test from Yahoo

ADMIN: Well...

2003-08-26 Thread Nick Arnett
The logs look a bit more encouraging, so I'm calling it a night. I hope to get up in the morning to find a properly behaving list. It's been an adventure. -- Nick Arnett Phone/fax: (408) 904-7198 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman

ADMIN: Patching

2003-08-26 Thread Nick Arnett
Okay, folks, I think I found the problem. It's a bug in Mailman, triggered by a username that contains 8-bit characters. I've just patched the code and I hope that'll take care of the problem, but I'm continuing to try to figure it out. -- Nick Arnett Phone/fax: (408) 904-7198 [EMAIL PROTECTED

RE: Testing...

2003-08-26 Thread Nick Arnett
. Thanks! Nick -- Nick Arnett Phone/fax: (408) 904-7198 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Nick Arnett Sent: Monday, August 25, 2003 10:34 AM To: Killer Bs Discussion Subject: Testing... I'm sending another message

Testing...

2003-08-26 Thread Nick Arnett
I'm sending another message just so that I can watch the mail log right afterwards... please ignore. -- Nick Arnett Phone/fax: (408) 904-7198 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

ADMIN: Possibly fixed?

2003-08-26 Thread Nick Arnett
... Let's see if this message gets out! -- Nick Arnett Phone/fax: (408) 904-7198 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Testing from Yahoo

2003-08-26 Thread Nick Arnett
Testing to the list from Yahoo... -- Nick Arnett Phone/fax: (408) 904-7198 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Hello... hello? Is this thing on?

2003-08-26 Thread Nick Arnett
difficulties. Maybe the evil worm that's been clogging so many mailboxes actually messed something up, although I am quite certain it has not affected any machines here. Now I'll go look at the logs... -- Nick Arnett Phone/fax: (408) 904-7198 [EMAIL PROTECTED

RE: Test

2003-08-26 Thread Nick Arnett
Not sure what went wrong while I was away, but it apparently healed itself. Unfortunately, my admin backup is my friend fighting brain cancer, so when I'm away, it's difficult to cover this sort of problem. Redundancy -- that's what we need! Nick -- Nick Arnett Phone/fax: (408) 904-7198 [EMAIL

ADMIN: I think I found the problem.

2003-08-26 Thread Nick Arnett
to use the name, rather than the address (I'm not sure why it ever used the address), it appears to me that mail is flowing again. At last. -- Nick Arnett Phone/fax: (408) 904-7198 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

ADMIN: More blasted testing

2003-08-26 Thread Nick Arnett
I've upgraded Mailman from 2.1 to 2.1.2 and hope that now it'll behave. But there's also a patch I think I need to apply... Let's just see if this message gets out. -- Nick Arnett Phone/fax: (408) 904-7198 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http

ADMIN: Another test from Yahoo...

2003-08-26 Thread Nick Arnett
Not sure if we're there yet or not. Somebody post to the list! If I weren't getting my own messages, this would be easier! -- Nick Arnett Phone/fax: (408) 904-7198 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

ADMIN: Non-subscriber postings will be discarded

2003-08-29 Thread Nick Arnett
PROTECTED] to [EMAIL PROTECTED]), your mail will silently disappear into the bit-bucket. Sorry about that... but if you see that your postings are not reaching the list, but others' are, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] and we'll do what we can. Nick -- Nick Arnett Phone/fax: (408) 904-7198 [EMAIL PROTECTED

RE: Test

2003-09-02 Thread Nick Arnett
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of David Hobby ... Now, what can you tell me about the number 28? Julia It is nominally the number of days in a month. It is a perfect number, the only even perfect number that is a

Re: Dastardly spammer

2003-09-11 Thread Nick Arnett
getting authorities in either country to take any action. -- Nick Arnett Phone/fax: (408) 904-7198 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Contacting listowners the rest of the month

2003-09-11 Thread Nick Arnett
away with this because my daughter carried twins *and* has diabetes. As some here may know, women with diabetes accumulate far more amniotic fluid, so they are even bigger. And Carrie isn't very big to start with, so she was enormous. Extra-super-wide-angle lens... -- Nick Arnett Phone/fax: (408

Re: Scouted: Energy Drink or Plain Pandering?

2003-09-12 Thread Nick Arnett
? It almost has that... although it's more like Riverdance v. tap. Pretty funny. Nick -- Nick Arnett Phone/fax: (408) 904-7198 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Dang list

2003-09-16 Thread Nick Arnett
my business partner and me his business card with some encouraging words. Nick -- Nick Arnett Phone/fax: (408) 904-7198 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Dang list

2003-09-17 Thread Nick Arnett
Jan Coffey wrote: It's called being shmoozed... you'll get use to itand then you will learn to detest it. That seems like a rather strong judgment to make with no information about what was said... and I think you must not know my background, or you'd realize I'm pretty good at knowing when

Re: Linux suckz

2003-09-19 Thread Nick Arnett
, sound, printer - can't use them CDRW - can't use it DVDROM - works as a CDROM synaptic - installs lots of game packages, but the user can't see them Which distribution are you fighting with? -- Nick Arnett Phone/fax: (408) 904-7198 [EMAIL PROTECTED

ADMIN: List weirdness

2003-09-23 Thread Nick Arnett
, but then seems to constipate, which it really shouldn't do if it's shunting properly. Nick -- Nick Arnett Phone/fax: (408) 904-7198 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: ADMIN: List weirdness

2003-09-24 Thread Nick Arnett
help until the real solution is found. It already is a couple of scripts, but it just seems goofy to use that approach... but given that it keeps happening, albeit irregularly, perhaps I'll do just that. Nick -- Nick Arnett Phone/fax: (408) 904-7198 [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Republican national Commitee: Gay rights = Religious bigotry

2003-09-24 Thread Nick Arnett
with - and condone - my choice,' that, to me, is religious bigotry, and I believe that's intolerant. I think they are the ones that are crossing the line here. But this attitude is based on the *least* compassionate interpretation of Scripture... -- Nick Arnett Phone/fax: (408) 904-7198 [EMAIL

Re: Julia family

2003-09-27 Thread Nick Arnett
is -- about doing list stuff, not about getting home). But now I see that we have a report that the twins' IPO is completed... Nick -- Nick Arnett Phone/fax: (408) 904-7198 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Opinion of split between the two Brin-Ls?

2003-09-28 Thread Nick Arnett
and the Anti-net. Nick -- Nick Arnett Phone/fax: (408) 904-7198 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Leaving California

2003-10-07 Thread Nick Arnett
to Colorado, where I'll be tempted to stay. Or maybe New Zealand. -- Nick Arnett Phone/fax: (408) 904-7198 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Is anyone home?

2003-10-14 Thread Nick Arnett
will be, but we have a couple of possibilities. Apple's List Guru, whom Dave and I both know, lives a few doors away, for example. Nick -- Nick Arnett Phone/fax: (408) 904-7198 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Vatican Vs Science: 'condoms don't stop hiv / AIDS'

2003-10-16 Thread Nick Arnett
Pope Wally, the Lutheran pope, in Minnesota. Lake Wogebon, I believe, is is home town. -- Nick Arnett Phone/fax: (408) 904-7198 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Irregulars question: Computer help

2003-10-20 Thread Nick Arnett
that program, it changes back to this page. This loader.exe program cannot be deleted, at least by normal means. It *is* a browser hijacker and you'll find some fixes for it if you search Google, etc. I'm surprised that SpyBot didn't flag it. Nick -- Nick Arnett Phone/fax: (408) 904-7198 [EMAIL

Re: down again?

2003-10-22 Thread Nick Arnett
connectivity. We're thinking about all of these options now. Anybody seeing similar stuff going on with other mail? Nick -- Nick Arnett Phone/fax: (408) 904-7198 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: down again?

2003-10-22 Thread Nick Arnett
Erik Reuter wrote: On Wed, Oct 22, 2003 at 09:33:46AM -0700, Nick Arnett wrote: Anybody seeing similar stuff going on with other mail? I have only seen these delays with brin-l. I run postfix and procmail on my linux box and process 100's of messages a day (most of them spam, unfortunately

Re: down again?

2003-10-22 Thread Nick Arnett
leave it alone! -- Nick Arnett Phone/fax: (408) 904-7198 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: down again?

2003-10-22 Thread Nick Arnett
to take risks with it. Seems weird to have to eliminate a backup system to manage risk, though! Nick -- Nick Arnett Phone/fax: (408) 904-7198 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Better mail service now, perhaps

2003-10-23 Thread Nick Arnett
. We'll see. Nick -- Nick Arnett Phone/fax: (408) 904-7198 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: [Listref]'Ignorant Thugs' Have Mishandled Downloadable Music

2003-10-24 Thread Nick Arnett
was the key to its oligopoly (back then, there were almost twice as many labels -- seven!) and they knew it. Darn Todd for moving to Hawaii. I don't bump into him nearly as often now. Nick -- Nick Arnett Phone/fax: (408) 904-7198 [EMAIL PROTECTED

Some mail server stats

2003-10-27 Thread Nick Arnett
is at the top of our list. That doesn't surprise me; our work has to do with incoming mail, not outgoing, and brin-l is the most popular list we host. Nick -- Nick Arnett Phone/fax: (408) 904-7198 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman

Julia is mostly off-line

2003-10-27 Thread Nick Arnett
Julia's primary computer had a CPU fan failure, so she's off-line for a while, possibly through the weekend. She's using her utility notebook on another e-mail address in the meantime, so she's not seeing mail to her regular address. Nick -- Nick Arnett Phone/fax: (408) 904-7198 [EMAIL

Anybody see the aurorae?

2003-10-29 Thread Nick Arnett
north of here, so maybe... Nick -- Nick Arnett Phone/fax: (408) 904-7198 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Anybody see the aurorae?

2003-10-29 Thread Nick Arnett
I were back in Pittsburgh (a bit) because it is much further north, geomagnetically, than the Bay Area, even though geographically the latitude is almost the same. Nick -- Nick Arnett Phone/fax: (408) 904-7198 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http

Re: worldwide active volcano's

2003-11-10 Thread Nick Arnett
Gary Nunn wrote: An interesting interactive map of volcano's worldwide that are currently active or in the news I'm too lazy to look myself... so somebody tell me, is the Cocoa discussion on that map? Nick -- Nick Arnett Phone/fax: (408) 904-7198 [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: worldwide active volcano's

2003-11-10 Thread Nick Arnett
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 11/10/2003 9:06:37 AM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm too lazy to look myself... so somebody tell me, is the Cocoa discussion on that map? Naw, they stuffed a giant marshmallow down it's throat. Sweet! -- Nick Arnett

Re: Dastardly spammer

2003-11-14 Thread Nick Arnett
three complaints. Nick -- Nick Arnett Phone/fax: (408) 904-7198 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

[ADMIN] Network interruption

2003-11-16 Thread Nick Arnett
after I called them, but at the time, they couldn't see anything wrong. Anyway, we're back and that's why we were off the air. The server problems we were having for a while seem to have been eliminated by the work we did to reduce the impact of spammers on it. Nick -- Nick Arnett Phone/fax: (408

Re: christian dreams of murder...

2003-11-16 Thread Nick Arnett
to the circumstances, just as it varies among more ordinary courts. But I don't even hear any discussion of what that standard should be, and so I imagine that our goal is to convict and disappear them, not to make the difficult decision about what is just. Nick -- Nick Arnett Phone/fax: (408) 904-7198

[ADMIN] Strange bounces

2003-11-19 Thread Nick Arnett
and will watch carefully for any futher such nonsense. Sorry for any inconvenience. Nick -- Nick Arnett Phone/fax: (408) 904-7198 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

[ADMIN] Secondary mail receiver spam blocking

2003-11-22 Thread Nick Arnett
it is more reliable, but it is hosted at Verio, which leads it to be automatically blocked by a number of sites, simply because Verio's virtual servers are often abused by spammers. And that could mean undelivered mail, which is not good. And so the battle continues! Nick -- Nick Arnett Phone/fax

[ADMIN] Multiple list problems

2003-11-24 Thread Nick Arnett
million records). I'm not sure what time things went south, but the list was definitely down for a while. We're back up... and perhaps things will STAY up! Nick -- Nick Arnett Phone/fax: (408) 904-7198 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman

[ADMIN] Another dang interruption

2003-11-25 Thread Nick Arnett
We clearly have a UPS that's being flakey. I'm not sure how long we were off-line, but the cause was the UPS that powers a critical Ethernet switch, as well as a backup server. It's out of the loop now... Again, sorry for the interruption. Nick -- Nick Arnett Phone/fax: (408) 904-7198 [EMAIL

Re: [ADMIN] Another dang interruption

2003-11-25 Thread Nick Arnett
... And if your message is rejected by our server, write to me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] to say so. Perhaps it's just the upcoming U.S. holiday. Nick -- Nick Arnett Phone/fax: (408) 904-7198 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

[ADMIN] Apparently, we haven't found it...

2003-11-29 Thread Nick Arnett
We still apparently have some network flakiness -- everything locked up today for a while. Mail and the list are catching up. I'm still trying to figure out if it's internal or external. -- Nick Arnett Phone/fax: (408) 904-7198 [EMAIL PROTECTED

[ADMIN] Whoops -- secondary mail receiver was rejecting list mail

2003-11-29 Thread Nick Arnett
message, you'll need to re-submit your message(s). Nick -- Nick Arnett Phone/fax: (408) 904-7198 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Truths or cultural norms?

2003-11-30 Thread Nick Arnett
. ...Inspired by Milton's Areopagitica, which was an argument of faith, more than reason or history. -- Nick Arnett Phone/fax: (408) 904-7198 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Science Fiction In General...

2003-12-06 Thread Nick Arnett
science fiction here. ;-) Nick -- Nick Arnett Phone/fax: (408) 904-7198 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: [ADMIN} Wonky list

2003-12-06 Thread Nick Arnett
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You are not constipated. Take my word for it I am a neuroradiologist Oddly, I've had two on-line discussions today and both featured this subject. The other one had to do with Temodar, with which I suspect you may be familiar. Nick -- Nick Arnett Phone/fax: (408) 904

Re: Very interesting emails....

2003-12-07 Thread Nick Arnett
Bryon Daly wrote: Wierd: the Winchester location described is only about 2.6 miles from my house! And August 22nd is my birthday. It's a conspiracy! -- Nick Arnett Phone/fax: (408) 904-7198 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman

Re: Electromagnetic Fields are Evil and Must Be Destroyed . . .

2003-12-09 Thread Nick Arnett
a kind of God helmet -- a headset that can induce the feeling of an unseen presence by bathing the temples in electromagnetic fields. --Anjana Ahuja, God on the brain, The Times of London, April 17, 2003 Or perhaps it suggests that God works through our parietal lobes, in particular. -- Nick Arnett

Re: Electromagnetic Fields are Evil and Must Be Destroyed . . .

2003-12-09 Thread Nick Arnett
William T Goodall wrote: On 9 Dec 2003, at 6:33 pm, Nick Arnett wrote: Ronn!Blankenship wrote: The findings suggest that our attitudes to religion are underpinned by biology -that some brains are physically built to be more receptive to divine thought, and that this explains why religion

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