I talked at some length with Chayla and with Wes' mother this morning.
Both of them were holding up well when we talked, but of course it is up
and down for them.
Last night, I talked with one of my trusted friends, who helped me to
separate the pain I'm feeling about Wes from the politics of
Damon Agretto wrote:
I wonder what effect using backlit LCD monitors have
on this...?
They are much lighter, so it should help, I would think, since
apparently it is the heavy computers that cause the problem.
Nick (flailing around for any humor I can find)
Gary Denton wrote:
Condolences.
My nephew was a ranger in Iraq but made it back safely.
Thank you. There is great comfort in knowing that we are in the
thoughts and prayers of so many.
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From the Any Soldier web site:
Want to send a care package to Any Soldier in Harm's Way,
but have no idea of what to send, who to send it to, or how to send it?
http://www.anysoldier.com/
Pretty cool.
Cindy and I will fly to Houston on Saturday for Wes' funeral on Monday.
At the risk of
Okay, web wizards... I'd like to capture the video (for time-shifting
purposes, of course) of a story about Wes that was on one of the Houston
television stations.
Anybody who can figure out how to do it wins a big thank-you from me.
There's a link to their video page here:
Robert Seeberger wrote:
I wish the NBC affiliate here had their story from monday on the web.
It featured ex-teachers and neighbors talking about Wes and how he was
such a wonderful person.
What was interesting and amazing to me was how these people smiled
when they spoke of him. That by itself
Warren Ockrassa wrote:
On Nov 18, 2004, at 11:14 PM, Dave Land wrote:
For those who are interested, I used the -dumpstream option of
MPlayer 1.0pre5-3.3. It built and installed on my 15 Aluminum
PowerBook with ease (if only my work projects compiled as easily).
You gotta love open source
Warren Ockrassa wrote:
But the fact stands that it was open source code running on Macintosh
that accomplished what could not otherwise be done.
You've leapt to an unwarranted conclusion... I had already downloaded
one of at least three packages for Windows that would do it. I used to
be a
Gautam Mukunda wrote:
Actually, Timothy Noah from Slate, who absolutely
hates George Bush,
I'm curious about this. I don't read Slate much, never heard of Timothy
Noah until just now. Is this a guy who writes things like, I hate
Bush, or is his hatred something you infer from his writings?
JDG wrote:
Again, the only conclusion I can draw from using loaded language like so
it begins is that religious conservatives either shouldn't be allowed to
participate in the political process, or that if they are, they shouldn't
ever be allowed to actually *win* and maybe enact some portions of
Dave Land wrote:
What's really sad is that my wife gets this here in California.
Does... she... speak... English???
(Inside joke, but perhaps it comes across to the rest of y'all.)
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Warren Ockrassa wrote:
...
Depends on the joke and context too. In the 80s movie _Bill ted's
Excellent Adventure_ Alex Winter and Keanu Reeves hug briefly after a
fight, then eye each other and shout, Fag! It's a pretty damn funny
moment, I think.
A roommate (straight) and I did a similar
JDG wrote:
In a fair election, there are no losers. Sadly, it seems that hardly
anyone is willing to look at it that way these days.
In a fair election, there are no losers?
Consider the case of a referendum we had three on the ballot here in
Montgomery County, Maryland. One in particular
JDG wrote:
I must have missed the part where the 2004 election wasn't fair or are
you buying into David Brin's Area-51 conspiracy theories as well?
I haven't offered an opinion about whether not the 2004 election was
fair. I wrote that in a fair election, there are no losers. I was
hoping
Gautam Mukunda wrote:
For God's sake, Nick, what he's saying is pretty
obvious.
Indeed.
I was trying to express that he didn't seem to be getting what I was saying.
The United States didn't become the property of the Republican party on
Election Day. All that was won was the political
JDG wrote:
An interesting... and in my opinion all too gloomy for the Democrats...
assessment of the future of the Democratic Party.
From the article:
During the fall campaign, many people said that this election was
the most important of our lives. It was, and when the Democrats
lost it, an era
JDG wrote:
Nick, if you think that the author was endorsing what you describe, then
you completely missed the point of the article. Dan beat me to the punch
here, but the author's point is that Republicans now control both house of
Congress, have won the last two Presidential elections (despite
Dan Minette wrote:
He's a Baptist. He fits within a broad category of born again Christians
who know that they are already saved, so their actions cannot condemn them.
What's critical, of course, is that he speaks like a born again Christian
when he speaks of religion.
He joined a United
JDG wrote:
And thus the Democratic party has no future? Ridiculous.
So ridiculous, in fact, that I am not aware of anyone on this List who has
said such a thing.
Least of all me.
Not that that apparently would stop you
Do the words in my opinion all too gloomy for the Democrats...
Dan Minette wrote:
which adds JDG's comment that this analysis, while quite interesting, is
too gloomy.
I'll put a beer down on my bet, Nick. :-)
I don't even know what you're betting on, Dan. I read an article that
suggested the Democratic party might never win another election
(perpetual
Dan Minette wrote:
You are reading it wrong. No Christians think that we earn salvation...
Ah, but I'd hazard that we all act that way sometimes.
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JDG wrote:
Unless of course one is only allowed to post thought-provoking articles
that one agrees with on this List.
As if. This seems to me to be a straw man.
In short, the future of the Democratic Party has been a topic for
discussion on this List.I read this article, and thought that the
MC Hawking's album, A Brief History of Rhyme, is out.
http://www.mchawking.com/
And don't miss the trailer:
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/172475
The Hawkman cometh, apparently.
Salon says, It's hard to decide whether MCHawking.com is downright
brilliant or borderline offensive...
Hawking
Gautam Mukunda wrote:
If not pissing people off is an important concern of
yours
I'm wondering where you read this in Doug's words... I'm reading
quickly, but the Doug's premise seemed to be that we ideally decide what
is the right thing and then do our best to build a coalition around it.
It
Gautam Mukunda wrote:
--- Nick Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And it's another damned straw man, given that Saddam
Hussein is in no
position to acquire weapons.
Nick
Not _anymore_ anyways, thanks to the war you opposed.
Did I?
Apparently our memories differ.
Nick
Dan Minette wrote:
I went back over the archivesyou appeared to not want to say what your
opinion was.
I took my time making up my mind.
Tue Jul 29 23:34:29 PDT 2003
...
I've realized that there's a strong emotional component to this for me,
which I suspect is shared by many others who grew up
Sometimes I'm particularly happy to have friends in the newspaper business.
http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/news/columnists/leigh_weimers/10429642.htm
Nick
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Warren Ockrassa wrote:
One of the things we're constantly reminded of by the fossil fuel
interests is how generally impractical, difficult, costly and, most of
all, expensive any conversion will be. If this propaganda happens to be
true, it could be decades before we have decent new military
Everyone,
Julia Thompson (who has been a manager of the Brin list for longer than
anyone in history, as far as I know) just called me to say that she'll
be off e-mail indefinitely. They're at Austin Childrens Hospital
because one of the twins, Tommy, has been sick a lot and became very
JDG wrote:
Never attacked us?Tell that George Bush Senior.Tell that to the
families of the hundreds of Americans who died in Iraq and Saudi Arabia
over the previous 12 years.
I'm confused -- surely you're not saying that we invaded them in
response to the attacks they made on our troops
Nick Arnett wrote:
I'm in one of those families.
And to be a little clearer, I'll speak for our family -- please don't
presume. I don't think our loss gives us special rights to justify or
criticize this war, so I sure don't think it gives anyone else any.
Nick
d.brin wrote:
And it goes on. Accelerating, every day.
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2002112639_diss08.html
This is awful -- what constitutes publishing? For example, what if
somebody from a sanctioned country posts to Brin-L? Am I now subject to
a $1 million fine and a
David Brin wrote:
Events of 9/11 stunned me because of how blatant and
unhidden most of the links were. As if they felt so
safe - once W was in office - that they could do
anything with impunity. W may have felt briefly
betrayed, since he ordered GO on Clinton's Afghanistan
plan. It worked so
Russell Chapman wrote:
Legoland, San Diego to LAX question
Friends,
I seek the advice of anyone who frequents Southern California. I have
been planning my Christmas holidays using both Microsoft's Streets
Trips (no way it was written in Redmond - it's brilliant!) and Mapquest.
They have given
JDG wrote:
Even so, once Saddam Hussein were to, say, acquire a nuclear weapon from
the A. Q. Khan underground network, isn't it a little too late at that
point to do something about the problem?
I bought the nuclear threat pitch the first time around. It reminded me
of the nightmares
Russell Chapman wrote:
When do you mean by bought it the first time - I assume you're not
talking about 1962 - 1978? Did you mean the lead up to the 2003 invasion?
Yes... the aluminum tube nonsense, etc.
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Damon Agretto wrote:
You'll be happy to know, then, that the DoD is looking to dump the
AAVP7A1s in favor of a new vehicle to be fielded after 2008:
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/ground/aaav.htm
Yeah, the AAV is expected to be phased out in favor of the AAAV in 2012.
I'll just
JDG wrote:
So, you would disagree that firing shots with the intent of bringing down a
country's aircraft ordinarily constitutes an act of war against said country?
It now seems inescapable that you are saying the very thing I imagined:
We invaded Iraq.
They shot at our airplanes that were flying
JDG wrote:
I don't think that I would describe Gulf War I as an instance when we
invaded Iraq.
I think the label is appropriate any time one nation's military enters
the other's territory uninvited, destroys stuff and kills people.
Refusing this ordinary way of talking strikes me as less than
JDG wrote:
Later in this post, you make a distinction between tactical and
strategic language.Do you agree that while US actions in Iraq in Gulf
War I could be called an invasion in the tactical sense, they would not
be described as an invasion in the strategic sense?
I think that anything
Gautam Mukunda wrote:
I hope this all doesn't seem hopelessly pedantic. I
believe that
language is one of the most important tools for
peacemaking.
Geez, Nick, then stop using it as a tool to hinder
communication.
What's the antecedent of it in that sentence? Are you saying that it
appears
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If I recall correctly, Christmas was illegal at one time here in America
until the 1870's.
Wow, if you can remember *that*, I'm tempted to speculate that the cause
of your illness might have been old age.
What do you recall about it?
Nick
Got a note from Julia... better news.
Tommy has reflux and is on medication. An MRI of his brain showed
nothing (I'm slightly sorry to make that joke... I've been around Dave
Land and his wonky brain too long to not make it, but hope it takes
nothing away from the seriousness of parents
Our mail server was misbehaving for a little while this afternoon. If
you had a message to the list come back to you, please re-send it.
However, I think that probably didn't happen, but some messages have
been delayed while the sending server retries.
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Travis Edmunds wrote:
I had one bounce back on me last week. Sadly (sad as in - y'all missed a
funny post from me!!!), I had the original message that I was replying
to deleted by the time the mailman hit me back, so I was too pissed/lazy
to do anything but nothing about it. That made sense
maru wrote:
I feel like following in the steps of others using this list for tech
support...
Lately, using Thunderbird 1.0, I've been having serious problems
connecting to Optimum Online's USENET server after a while of doing just
fine. It's not my bandwidth, I still receive all my other
Julia says it looks like they'll be going home with Tommy in a couple of
hours.
Yay!
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Alberto Monteiro wrote:
Keith Henson wrote:
But then I will not be able to _buy_ a new one!
Why not? You know what kind of processor you have and there are only a few
kind of heat sinks.
But what is the point of buying a new one if I don't fknow how to remove
the old one?
The instructions for
JDG wrote:
O.k., I presume that you believed then and continue to believe now that
Baathist Iraq had the capability to mass produce chemical weapons.
I also presume that you believed then and continue to believe now that
Baathist Iraq had the capability to mass produce anthrax, and possibly
other
Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
Were you aware that it is a violation of the license to use WordPerfect
12 to develop nuclear, chemical, or biological weapons of mass destruction?
If it's like many others, you probably should't use it for air traffic
control, either.
Nick
Erik Reuter wrote:
On Thu, Jan 06, 2005 at 01:20:33PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Can we try and start the new year without doofus, idiot, pathetic,
insert other generally disparaging words
Can we try and pay attention and not act like a bunch of pathetic
doofus's without a clue posting
So... I like this:
http://www.glennbeck.com/tribute.htm
It's a montage of photos from Iraq and some beautiful music by a Mormon
choir.
But as I look at Glenn Beck's web site, I can see that he's a radio
commentator... and so odds are, he's conservative... but I sure can't
get a handle on his
Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
Or, to reduce the answer to what I believe is its simplest form... No.
I thought I was poking fun, but some didn't get it... Not the first
time I've been misunderstood, nor the last.
And now, a serious amplification. No, we can't all just get along, so I
try to take
JDG wrote:
I wasn't aware that Social Security was an investment.;-)Do you
know what these investments are in?
People! My parents, fer example.
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Erik Reuter wrote:
On Sat, Jan 08, 2005 at 06:45:44PM -0500, maru wrote:
But more importantly, were you running mutt as root, you naughty
person?
No, that is a bug in PuTTy.
And how come your cwd is etc?
Just curious, though I'm tempted to bombast about how nobody belongs in
etc unless they're
Erik Reuter wrote:
Thunderbird manages to get threading mostly correct, but it
sometimes places replies in the wrong place in the tree. It looks
like the threading code is basing much of its decisions on the
Subject: header, when it really should be using References: and
In-Reply-To:. It
Erik Reuter wrote:
You'll have to bombast someone else. Perhaps you could bombast the
author of PuTTy, if you're so keen to bombast someone.
Nah, I like PuTTy. Use it just about every day... I probably have at
least two sessions going all the time. What version are you using? I
haven't
Robert Seeberger wrote:
So it was a bit of a mixed bag for Thunderbird. It replicated all my
settings accurately and seems to possess a superior functionality
overall (in comparison to OE at least).
The downside was that it didn't replicate my filters (which I find
problematic since the filtering
Robert G. Seeberger wrote:
http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2005/10jan_earthquake.htm?list11191
25
NASA scientists studying the Indonesian earthquake of Dec. 26, 2004,
have calculated that it slightly changed our planet's shape, shaved
almost 3 microseconds from the length of the day, and
Russell Chapman wrote:
Tyre-Chains (wait - that would be Tire Chains) to suit SUV.
Sorry that this is waaay off-topic, but I am about to throw away a brand
new, never opened, set of chains, with tensioners, purchased 2 weeks
ago. It seems a shame to just leave them sitting on the footpath (oops,
Original Message
Subject: ABC Muddles the Social Security Debate
Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 13:37:33 -0800
From: FAIR [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
FAIR-L
Fairness Accuracy
JDG wrote:
One question I would love to ask, and I apologize if this sounds a little
harsher than it really is, but here is my question:
And how can a neutral, fair-minded observer distinguish the above answer
from Because I am bought and paid for by the Democratic Pary, and there is
simply no way
Erik Reuter wrote:
... But Social Security is
broke,
Pretty hard to continue reading after that sentence.
Unless, of course, I hear that all the Social Security checks are
bouncing and find out that it's true.
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Steve Sloan wrote:
David Brin wrote:
Below is the list of those I already see interested. Anyone else?
[EMAIL PROTECTED],Doug Pensinger
[EMAIL PROTECTED],Matt Grimaldi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
,William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Please include Steve Sloan, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Me, too, even though I've
Erik Reuter wrote:
He could equivalently have said the system is broken. The
forecast is that SS will not be able to pay scheduled benefits in the
future without an increase in funding.
If that's what he meant, then that's what he could have said. I hear a
world of difference between broke and
JDG wrote:
I hear Bush warning us of financial
instruments of mass destruction and I remember how lousy the analysis
was the last time he offered a big warning about mass destruction. Fool
me once, shame on me...
Oh good grief.Does noone in the Democratic Party have any shame?
About what?
Erik Reuter wrote:
* Nick Arnett ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
He said it perfectly correctly. Present value of liabilities exceeding
present value of income is as good a definition as I know of broke.
Do you consider broke to mean insolvent? That's what it means to
you. Your formula means
Erik Reuter wrote:
I see. What you are saying is you see a big difference whether YOU
have to pay for the crisis, or whether you can foist it off on someone
else by doing nothing now.
You see like a blind man, as if there were no difference at all in how
to respond to a present crisis v. a future
Erik Reuter wrote:
* Nick Arnett ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
I haven't said do nothing. But I don't see how we can possibly
reach any sort of consensus about what to, since we don't agree on
whether this is a present or future crisis.
So you agree to taking the cut to 73% now for your generation
Erik Reuter wrote:
Your stated choice is to do nothing now because it is only a future
crisis.
Really? When and where did I state that as my choice? I can clearly
recall saying that how we respond to an impending crisis is different
from how we might react to a present one. Aren't you saying
Robert Seeberger wrote:
Care to tell us a little bit about yourself?
What do you do for a living?
What are your interests?
And quick, what are you doing about the Social Security Crisis?
;-)
Nick
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Erik Reuter wrote:
Think again. I am not by any stretch of the imagination a Bush
supporter. Kotlikoff, the person I was quoting originally (which Nick
replied to) is a college professor, not in the Bush administration. Nick
has Bush on the Brain.
In this particular issue, you are making the same
Warren Ockrassa wrote:
No; he's also a blowhard.
Please, no *personal* attacks.
Nick
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Dave Land wrote:
Need I say more?
I think not.
Nick
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Robert G. Seeberger wrote:
http://www.googlism.com
david brin is a transparent eyeball
david brin is a transparent eyeball the sci
david brin is mesa college?s commencement speaker
david brin is a top bloke himself
david brin is one of the few people thinking and writing about the
social problems
Erik Reuter wrote:
I've asked you before, and you have repeatedly failed to answer.
Our conversation on this topic ended when my perception was that you
were using abusive language.
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It's real -- we used it, with a couple of interludes of unhappiness from
the server.
And David will make it available to us each week around the same time --
5 p.m. Thursday, Pacific time.
Nick
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Alberto Monteiro wrote:
Nick Arnett wrote:
And David will make it available to us each week around the same time --
5 p.m. Thursday, Pacific time.
How does that mean in metric units?
Three wickets past a furlong.
Nick
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maru wrote:
So how was it? Was it really a major improvement over trusty ol' IRC?
I've seen it and heard about it for several years now, so better to ask
people who just got their first taste.
Nick
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Any Pete Seeger fans here? Or Chinese readers? I have finally gotten
around to scanning the album cover of Darling Corey, which was his
first solo album, which he autographed for me in 1977 when my brother
and I helped produce a benefit concert where he performed.
I've been wondering for
Horn, John wrote:
This is one of the most terrifying things I have read in a long,
long, LONG time.
Me too. Especially coming from Bill Moyers. The statistics really
stopped me.
I'm religious, but I know the difference (I think) between what is
irrational and what is non-rational. I'm
Warren Ockrassa wrote:
That's a good point. I'd ask you to think about something else, though
-- why do you consider yourself religious? I mean, if you have some kind
of faith, *why* do you have that faith?
Well, there's the question. An honest answer has to include, I don't
know. I choose to
Maru Dubshinki wrote:
I think that's a bit disingenous- saying 'God created evolution' is on
par with 'God created 2+2' or 'God created the Law of the excluded
middle'. Evolution naturally falls out of things, like 1=1.
How can a statement of my belief ever be disingenuous? Doesn't that
Warren Ockrassa wrote:
A self-centered answer is, I'm happier.
But are you really?
Oh, yes.
A non-rational answer is, It feels true.
Ah, but how much of that is it feeling true versus your sense of fair
play being appealed to? IOW how much of it is more I *want* it to be
true than it feels
Kevin Street wrote:
I don't know. Somehow, I suspect human nature is basically the same today as
it was ten thousand years ago, and it will remain that way for thousands of
years to come if the species survives.
I was talking about human knowledge, not human nature.
Specifically, with regard to
Warren Ockrassa wrote:
I think what Kevin was intimating -- and definitely what I was thinking
-- is that human nature, which wants things to be polar and simple, is
rebelling against all these fuzzy logics.
I was saying that that's how people are. But I think that's cultural. People in other
Kevin Street wrote:
In regard to the current American political situation with its split between
red and blue states, I agree with you. The division between teams of Us
and Them probably has more to do with basic human nature than the political
philosophies practiced by each party.
Consider this
Something went wrong on our server around 5:30 Pacific time... I'm still not quite sure what, but it
seemed to wipe out some essential directories for the mail server. I suspect a disk problem, of
course...
Seems to be working now. I'll take a closer look in the morning.
Meanwhile, our backup
http://www.prweb.com/releases/2005/1/prweb202277.htm
Science Fiction Authors Hoax Vanity Publisher
Atlanta Nights, by Travis Tea, was offered a publishing contract by
PublishAmerica of Frederick, Maryland.
Washington, DC (PRWEB) January 28, 2005 -- Over a holiday weekend last year, some
Robert G. Seeberger wrote:
And that comes right after AOL claimed that spam was going down and
that everybody was saying that spammers had given up It seems that
spammers have adapted. How can they use the ISP's infrastructure and
why can't the ISPs prevent them from doing it?
And in case anyone
Trent Shipley wrote:
Nick, is this what you are saying?
Spammer compromises customer's computer (actually many customers' computers,
preferably through a Trojan EULA that makes the whole thing legal).
No, not legal. Spam isn't legal!
I really do not get that angry with spammers. They are just
Horn, John wrote:
Behalf Of Nick Arnett
I really do not get that angry with spammers. They are
just rational entrepreneurs.
Bleah. If spamming isn't unethical, what is?
Whoever said that rational entrepreneurs are all ethical? An awful
lot of business people I have seen seem to have
Warren Ockrassa wrote:
The ultimate source of these problems is at least partly a corruptible
operating system. A class-action suit against Microsoft would go a long
way toward addressing spam, since UNIX, Linux, BSD and Mac systems don't
have these kinds of security issues.
I wish it were
Warren Ockrassa wrote:
Um. Years ago I had a button that read, Dear lord, please protect me
from your followers. However, I'd appeal to something a little closer
to material reality for help. ;)
Hmm. Despite... or perhaps because... I'm Christian, I think I could wear
that button, too.
But I'd
Warren Ockrassa wrote:
I often get emails spoofed from unsecured mailers, many of which seem to
report as being 'nix. That's just plain sloppiness on the part of those
machines' sysadmins.
And that's different from Windows' security issues how? ;-)
I'll guess that the answer is that at least
William T Goodall wrote:
The main human error being at Microsoft, in the design of Windows. An OS
deliberately designed to ignore the accumulated wisdom of decades in
regard to computer security.
Deliberately???
Nick
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Travis Edmunds wrote:
And for those of you who don't keep up to date with the date, it starts
tomorrow...
And cousin Bob (Harris) is part of it, of course:
http://www.jeopardy.com/howdies/thumbs/utoc_4708_2r2Up/bio_harris_2r2Up.php
Monday night, Feb. 15... I suppose I'll give up on giving up on
On Thursday around 10 a.m. Texas time, there will be a live video feed of the Texas state
legislature honoring our niece's husband, Wes Canning. Chayla will be there with her parents, Wes'
parents and grandparents. They're passing a resolution and giving the family the flag that will fly
over
Dave Land wrote:
It's as if they are saying We have to destroy our faith in order to
save you.
It seems to be closely related to the focus on ownership v. stewardship.
Nick
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Nick, perhaps the solution is to use the technology to paint scarlet
letters on people who respond and buy goods via spam. These are the people
that deserve scorn. Forget the spammers, fight the consumers!
I couldn't disagree more.
If I understood correctly, this sounded
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