Re: This Mailing List Isn't on Google For No Reason

2006-10-31 Thread Sonic Baker
On 10/29/06, Jon Bennett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Having run a mailing list that ran into just such growing pains, I can> suggest splitting up this group into two groups. One group will be for> New Cake Users, aka "newbies," and the other one will be for > intermediate to advanced users.I think

Re: This Mailing List Isn't on Google For No Reason

2006-10-29 Thread Jon Bennett
> Having run a mailing list that ran into just such growing pains, I can > suggest splitting up this group into two groups. One group will be for > New Cake Users, aka "newbies," and the other one will be for > intermediate to advanced users. I like this, and am used to it from the FlashNewbie an

Re: This Mailing List Isn't on Google For No Reason

2006-10-29 Thread Gustavo Carreno
On 10/25/06, Walker Hamilton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > But I have one problem with the manual being at the top. The version > that is downloadable at cakeforge does not match the version that is at > http://manual.cakephp.org Can you clarify this please, like who's behind, the online version o

Re: This Mailing List Isn't on Google For No Reason

2006-10-28 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Having run a mailing list that ran into just such growing pains, I can suggest splitting up this group into two groups. One group will be for New Cake Users, aka "newbies," and the other one will be for intermediate to advanced users. After the split, I suggest that the hyper-experts not answer q

Re: This Mailing List Isn't on Google For No Reason

2006-10-27 Thread kiper
I had another thought. How about tagging date onto all pages in the online manual? It will help us when there is a version conflict between the online and the pdf version! I hate giving (and getting) outdated advice :) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this messa

Re: This Mailing List Isn't on Google For No Reason

2006-10-25 Thread francky06l
I was just thinking as well, Categorizing (even if I thought about it a lot) has a main inconvienent for newbies. You would have to make an "Other" categories where most of question will eventually be dropped in. At the end, as most of groups long stories, a human being needs to devote to sort th

Re: This Mailing List Isn't on Google For No Reason

2006-10-25 Thread Sonic Baker
I was just thinking,How about using the rating system on the group to rate good posts? Does this increase the chances that the good posts come up first?Another thing I was thinking was this:Sometimes it's hard to find the answer to a question on the group when you don't know the lingo. So what if,

Re: This Mailing List Isn't on Google For No Reason

2006-10-25 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
There are several things: Some parts in the manual and wiki's tutorial are out of date which caused confusion to newbies (or at least me *_*), FAQ is a great idea, we can make it like a wiki so everyone can help? (I will certainly do) And I still believe that a Forum is way better than this. Reas

Re: This Mailing List Isn't on Google For No Reason

2006-10-25 Thread AD7six
Hi All, I am glad to see this thread, I do hope that it it not taken by some to be anti-noob, everbody was a noob once (well, except PhpNut). On Oct 25, 12:14 am, "francky06l" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Maybe obliging a syntax for the subject in messages could help to > "classify" or search su

Re: This Mailing List Isn't on Google For No Reason

2006-10-24 Thread Walker Hamilton
Mikee Freedom wrote: > I have found great assistance in: > > 1. the manual > 2. the wiki (and now the bakery) > 3. the various blogs around (thanks fellas) > 4. searching google groups > 5. the source code > 6. the api > 7. asking questions in here > > roughly in that order. I think this list is

Re: This Mailing List Isn't on Google For No Reason

2006-10-24 Thread francky06l
This group is very useful, I found lot of answers in it, I have also ask some beginners questions a while ago bothering nate, ADS7X and other very eminent people here. I am also answering some of them, but I admit (being modo on other groups) that's is really a lot of work. That's also the "price

Re: This Mailing List Isn't on Google For No Reason

2006-10-24 Thread Trevor Burton
as a distinctly average php user and a newcomer to cake i'll add my thoughts here for what it's worth. The fact that Cake is (or can be) such a powerful framework is a double-edged sword - serious developers use it to solve common problems quickly and speed up development of complex apps but 'ne

Re: This Mailing List Isn't on Google For No Reason

2006-10-24 Thread Mikee Freedom
morning all, just thought i would chime in with my 2. i agree, there are a lot of beginners about the place. at one stage being a Cake newbie myself, it has only been through serious time dedicated have I managed to come out with what I think to be a pretty good application utilising *some* of

Re: This Mailing List Isn't on Google For No Reason

2006-10-24 Thread Felix Geisendörfer
As far as an FAQ goes, according to gwoo the Bakery will get one soon (?). People will be able to ask and answer questions, but the public FAQ itself will be moderated / maintained by the core developers / contributors. Best Regards, Felix Geisendörfer aka the_undefined --

Re: This Mailing List Isn't on Google For No Reason

2006-10-24 Thread kiper
> Praise the powers that be, the wiki is dead. I suppose I could start > a page on the manual that only features FAQs. Anyone want to help on > that? I'll gladly help you with that, John, if you're interested! Still feel like a blueberry but I've been around since July :) I think that the manual

Re: This Mailing List Isn't on Google For No Reason

2006-10-24 Thread John David Anderson (_psychic_)
On Oct 24, 2006, at 11:00 AM, MJ Ray wrote: > > nate <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> What's not great is that people are continuing to ask questions >> without >> bothering to search for an answer beforehand. [...] > > google is a search engine, but a terrible catalogue. A cataloging of proble

Re: This Mailing List Isn't on Google For No Reason

2006-10-24 Thread MJ Ray
nate <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What's not great is that people are continuing to ask questions without > bothering to search for an answer beforehand. [...] google is a search engine, but a terrible catalogue. Does cake need a FAQ? (Does it have a FAQ? I thought it did, but couldn't find i

Re: Re: This Mailing List Isn't on Google For No Reason

2006-10-24 Thread Samuel DeVore
btw here is a great newbie tip, add 'nate' to the end of search queries on the cakephp group to get better result sets. On 10/24/06, Chris Hartjes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 10/24/06, Ismael S. Kafeltz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I do search a lot before any question, but i found t

Re: This Mailing List Isn't on Google For No Reason

2006-10-24 Thread Chris Hartjes
On 10/24/06, Ismael S. Kafeltz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I do search a lot before any question, but i found too many topics > without solution. > Maybe nobody reads... > Nate's email can be thusly summarized: 1) every beginner's question specifically about Cake has been answered on this ema

Re: This Mailing List Isn't on Google For No Reason

2006-10-24 Thread Ismael S. Kafeltz
I do search a lot before any question, but i found too many topics without solution. Maybe nobody reads... --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Cake PHP" group. To post to this group, send email to cake-

This Mailing List Isn't on Google For No Reason

2006-10-24 Thread nate
Hey, happy Tuesday, how's everybody doing? I just wanted to take a moment out of my afternoon to remind everyone about the awesome search technology this mailing list is built on. It's called Google, and it can help you quickly and efficiently find answers to questions that you might have. Norm