Re: [Callers] "booker" fee for tour planning

I've never asked for a booking fee, or played a tour organized by someone who wanted one, but it definitely is a lot of work and if someone wanted to organize a tour for me I wouldn't mind them taking some money! On Feb 13, 2017 6:17 PM, "Woody Lane via Callers" < callers@lists.sharedweight.net>

Re: [Callers] Role term survey responses

I danced email ECD to Jets/Rubies once, I belive at YDW 2014. On Feb 13, 2017 1:38 AM, "Read Weaver via Callers" < callers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote: > As far as I know, all of the ongoing gender-free English country dances > use a different system, “global terminology.” It’s based on

[Callers] Role term survey responses

As part of thinking about how whether non-gendered terms would work for mainstream contra dances, I thought it would be good to ask callers what they thought. Is it something where most callers were only willing to call Gents/Ladies, or are they more flexible? Do they generally support this sort

Re: [Callers] Another vote for "jets" and "rubies"

> Sent from my iPhone > > On Jan 30, 2017, at 11:10 AM, Jeff Kaufman via Callers > <callers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote: > > On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 10:54 AM, Donna Hunt <dhuntdan...@aol.com> wrote: > > Is there any data > > that reflects where in the

Re: [Callers] Another vote for "jets" and "rubies"

For attendance, what I would love to see is dances making their attendance numbers fully public. Something like a googledocs spreadsheet that anyone can view where you put in attendance numbers. (I've advocated for this, internally to BIDA, for years (unsuccessfully). We do have a sheet like

Re: [Callers] Another vote for "jets" and "rubies"

On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 10:54 AM, Donna Hunt wrote: > Is there any data > that reflects where in the country the LGBTQ gender-free dances are and > where the communities that use gender-free terminology are? The gender free dances are split into explicitly LGBTQ ones and

Re: [Callers] Another vote for "jets" and "rubies"

On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 1:44 PM, Ron Blechner wrote: > > If that's the case, one would assume there are also plenty of traditional > venue dancers who don't care either way. To that effect, genderfree roles > are not as scary as some have claimed. Sure, I think that's

Re: [Callers] Another vote for "jets" and "rubies"

On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 11:40 AM, Ron Blechner via Callers wrote: > To answer your question, though, about how many dancers want genderfree > terms, at least ten dances are genderfree, and I bet we can poll those > dances and find out how many active dancers they

Re: [Callers] What dance series are using what gender-free terms?

.ch...@gmail.com> wrote: > It’s a one off so far, but a 2nd dance is in the diary and it will hopefully > become a regular series. > > > > From: Jeff Kaufman [mailto:jeff.t.kauf...@gmail.com] > Sent: 25 January 2017 22:49 > To: Jeremy Gmail > Cc: Caller's discussion list > Subj

Re: [Callers] What dance series are using what gender-free terms?

in the UK though - I'm not sure if > the word pairing is recognised across the pond. > > Jeremy > > -Original Message- > From: Callers [mailto:callers-boun...@lists.sharedweight.net] On Behalf Of > Jeff Kaufman via Callers > Sent: 25 January 2017 19:25 > To: Caller'

Re: [Callers] What dance series are using what gender-free terms?

at 2:58 PM, Nick Cuccia via Callers <callers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote: > On 01/25/2017 11:25 AM, Jeff Kaufman via Callers wrote: >> I know several dance series use gender-free terms: >> >> Jets/Rubies: Portland ME >> Lead/Follow: Hampshire College, Contrad

[Callers] What dance series are using what gender-free terms?

I know several dance series use gender-free terms: Jets/Rubies: Portland ME Lead/Follow: Hampshire College, Contradelphia [defunct?] Bands/Bare-arms: JP, Western MA Larks/ Ravens: Circle Left, South Bay Does anyone know of other dances that are gender free, and what terms they use? Jeff

Re: [Callers] Another vote for "jets" and "rubies"

Hi Cara! There is definitely a history! Many dancers don't like lead/follow as terms because they either don't think contra has a lead/follow dynamic or they don't want to encourage lead/follow dancing. Some dance series, primarily ones with younger dancers, do use those terms, but there are

Re: [Callers] Another vote for "jets" and "rubies"

I really like the current up/down system for (a) remembering which role I'm dancing (b) signaling which role to others On Jan 18, 2017 11:49 AM, "Bob Morgan via Callers" < callers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote: > Angela reminded me of a point I've been thinking about for a while. Why > not

Re: [Callers] Catapult 2017 looking for callers

This thread got me thinking about whether I could figure out the effect of catapult from looking at later dance weekend bookings. I didn't make much progress, but people might be interested in the data: http://www.jefftk.com/p/effect-of-catapult On Thu, Dec 15, 2016 at 3:37 PM, Keith Tuxhorn via

Re: [Callers] Ralph Page Style

I think they're trying to refer to the style of dancing that was popular before Larry Jennings-style "zesty contra". On Mon, Oct 10, 2016 at 4:21 AM, John Sweeney via Callers wrote: > Hi all, > I was at a workshop recently where someone asked me if I liked

Re: [Callers] Microphones and/or technique for a deep voice.

* Lots of low frequency sound gets muddy and makes it hard to hear what's happening. * Typical dynamic microphones output extra bass when you're close to them ("proximity effect") The standard way to deal with this is to use the mixer's EQ to turn down the lows. This is something most sound

Re: [Callers] Thoughts on B2/A1 swings and having time to flourish

flourishes to > 16-count swings, which i see as a reciprocal relationship. > > On Sun, Mar 27, 2016 at 6:05 PM, Jeff Kaufman <jeff.t.kauf...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> >> On Mar 27, 2016 8:38 PM, "tavi merrill via Callers" < >> callers@

Re: [Callers] Thoughts on B2/A1 swings and having time to flourish

On Mar 27, 2016 8:38 PM, "tavi merrill via Callers" < callers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote: > like the ripcord twirl, seen in the wild here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVpR6SxWsM4=RDIVquC0jqCXs=2m2s and taught here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbyoOPc0rHQ, one of my favorite swing ending

Re: [Callers] Rates for private events (weddings etc)?

I would ask for about 3x more for a wedding then for an evening of dancing: * weddings are a lot of hassle * you're only playing/calling for a short time, but you need to be there very early and schedules are not reliable at weddings -- this may be worse for bands than callers * people spend so

Re: [Callers] Choreography and Copyright

Here's a post I wrote a couple years ago summarizing what I found when I looked into this: http://www.jefftk.com/p/can-you-copyright-a-contra-dance On Jan 25, 2016 8:22 AM, "Read Weaver via Callers" < callers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote: > Well, maybe. But: > > "Congress has stated that the

Re: [Callers] Weary of the same discussions

On Jan 23, 2016 9:20 AM, "Jack Mitchell via Callers" < callers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote: > > If you go to the link at the bottom of every message you can change your subscription status to the digest. > On the other hand, digests don't work very well these days because people don't trim

Re: [Callers] Gypsy / "Redneck"

On Nov 1, 2015 3:30 PM, "John Meechan via Callers" < callers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote: > > I have never heard the term gipsy used as a pejorative for Romany gipsies, in fact their national body is called the Gipsy Council. > That might just mean it's an old organization. In the US the NAACP

Re: [Callers] Gypsy Synopsis

On Oct 29, 2015 4:24 AM, "Erik Hoffman via Callers" < callers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote: > > > No Hand Allemande (and I do think Allemande comes from "The German," a dance) > I wonder what we'll do if we discover that to some Germans the French term "Allemande" is derogatory and they

Re: [Callers] Historical derivation of term "Gypsy"

Sharp uses the term "whole-gip" in part II of the country dance book. I have scans here: http://www.jefftk.com/p/history-of-the-term-gypsy He doesn't use the figure in the first part at all. On Oct 26, 2015 8:13 PM, "Jacob or Nancy Bloom via Callers" < callers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote: >

Re: [Callers] Advice about "gypsy"

On Sat, Oct 24, 2015 at 5:17 AM, Chris Page via Callers wrote: > "Gypsy" comes from Cecil Sharp, when he was trying to name a figure that > appeared in the literature of two dancers going around each other. > > My hearsay understanding is that he named it after

Re: [Callers] Text size problem

Your plain text email looks great! On Sep 10, 2015 2:21 AM, "Michael Fuerst via Callers" < callers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote: > One person suggested 2 and 5 (the medium fonts) were ok, another said only > 3 and 6 (the large fonts) > A third person suggested I try plain text, rather than HTML.

Re: [Callers] sticky floors

And please don't do any of this without checking with the venue! It's never OK to put down substances on a rented floor without the owner's permission. On Jul 20, 2015 3:05 PM, "Jerome Grisanti via Callers" < callers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote: > If you can find UNscented talc (and good luck

Re: [Callers] 24 bar Contras

ri, Jun 12, 2015 at 11:25 PM, Aahz Maruch via Callers < > callers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote: > >> On Fri, Jun 12, 2015, Jeff Kaufman via Callers wrote: >> > >> > Nit: a "California twirl with other hands" is traditionally called a >> &

Re: [Callers] Fwd: Giant dance database?

More discussion on contra dance copyrightability, which I didn't include before because I didn't want to send us off into legal land: http://www.jefftk.com/p/can-you-copyright-a-contra-dance On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 5:00 PM, Mark Jones via Callers wrote: >

Re: [Callers] Giant dance database?

I think this is a great idea, and the main non-technical limitation is writing to lots of callers to get their permission to include their dances. Several people have proposed something similar, but the actual work of checking with lots of callers has been too daunting. On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at

Re: [Callers] Good ending dances

One difference with the last dance of each half is that you don't need to worry as much about tiring out the dancers. As a dancer and a musician I like it when the last set is pretty energetic, with lots of balances, so when I'm calling that's what I'll request.

Re: [Callers] Role Play

On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 2:44 PM, Ben Hornstein wrote: > For your last story, if the band wants a certain mix, that is their right. > Perhaps their style is for the guitar to be louder than the fiddle (maybe > they think the fiddler isn't that good, but don't want to hurt

Re: [Callers] Forum vs email list?

On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 10:38 AM, <95s...@comcast.net> wrote: > some topics generate too many e-mails I don't have time to read One way to handle this is to use a mail client that supports "mute". If you mute a thread you won't see any more of those messages but you'll still see other messages

Re: [Callers] Scheduling/programmer Question

On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 2:26 PM, Greg McKenzie wrote: > >> The final step is to be booked at festivals, usually a weekend or a whole >> week. >> > > This is how most people see it in the USA contra dance scene as well. I'm > not sure why. I have seen many of our "top bill"

Re: [Callers] Scheduling/programmer Question

On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 12:18 PM, John Sweeney wrote: > > How about starting up some more mid-week, weekly dances? In the US there are weekly mid-week dances, but they're often big and fill a role more similar to I think what a Saturday dance would be in England. For

Re: [Callers] Scheduling/programmer Question

On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 11:17 AM, Colin Hume wrote: > > I imagine a lot of callers are happier to start the way I've > described, gradually building up confidence. Would you > expect to do a Saturday evening dance in your first year > of calling? > As an organizer I think

Re: [Callers] Dances licensed with CC or similar

On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 2:43 PM, Dave Casserly wrote: > I do not think Dan is correct that dance choreography is not copyrightable. > Dan, I don't know where you got that information, but nothing I know about > copyright law gives me that impression. I guess you

Re: [Callers] norms/ethics of choreography sharing

Tavi wrote: > regarding to calling a CC BY-NC dance at a paid > event: is it in fact noncommercial use? Sounds commercial to me. The text from the license is: "You may not exercise any of the rights granted to You in Section 3 above in any manner that is primarily intended for or directed

Re: [Callers] formations VS progressions: battle of the terms

On Sat, Sep 21, 2013 at 9:06 AM, John C. McIntire wrote: > Having dancers automatically line up improper often creates difficulties for > newcomers. Often as not, the newcomers will mimic a couple crossed over, > creating some confusion and taking more time to straighten

Re: [Callers] Dances licensed with CC or similar (Sam Whited)

On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 7:41 PM, rich sbardella wrote: > Are country western line dance copyrightable? The best I've been able to find on line dancing is this Australian guide: http://www.copyright.org.au/admin/cms-acc1/_images/9990319194f3b320fa4716.pdf Jeff

Re: [Callers] Dances licensed with CC or similar (Sam Whited)

On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 6:36 PM, Kalia Kliban wrote: > > Taco Bell can get legal protection for rearrangements of the same 6 > ingredients in new orders ... Citation? Jeff

Re: [Callers] Dances licensed with CC or similar (Sam Whited)

On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 4:29 PM, Erik Hoffman wrote: > I published it ... only to find out later that Tony Parkes had > written the same dance -- for the same reason -- with the > variant of a B1 Half Promenade; Women Chain. ... Later I > found the same dance with the Right

Re: [Callers] Dances licensed with CC or similar (Sam Whited)

On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 2:00 PM, Sam Whited wrote: > choreographic works have been copyrightable since 1978 It's not clear whether an individual contra dance, as a series of standard figures, is original enough to fall under copyright. While choreography can be copyrighted,

Re: [Callers] Scheduling/programmer Question

On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 9:31 AM, Linda Leslie wrote: > > It will be interesting to see what others think. [organizer hat on] While it's definitely more convenient to book a whole year at a time, the farther ahead a dance books the longer a new band or caller has to wait

Re: [Callers] Calling squares at contra.

I agree entirely with Dave. When I'm dancing I want to feel the music and dance to that. I've yet to dance to a band and caller pair where they really felt like they were producing one music. (When I'm calling I try to drop out as early as possible and not choose dances where I'll need to keep

Re: [Callers] Code's Compiling

Erik Hoffman wrote: > Hmm, kind of a hey for three on a bias... Sam Whited wrote: > > Ooh, I like that; thanks. That (might) be a great way to explain it to > people. I like the sound of it too `hey for three on a bias'... or `bent > hey for three' maybe? > In addition to contra dancers not

Re: [Callers] Code's Compiling

On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 5:52 AM, John Sweeney wrote: > > Whereas dosido has been standardised in the contra community, I don't believe > seesaw has, so I would always specify which one I mean. At contra dances I've only heard seesaw to mean a left shoulder dosido. Is

Re: [Callers] Squares for contra-dancers

Woody Lane wrote: > Unexpected moves are not necessarily enjoyed by contra dancers. You > can get around this by announcing in advance that this will be a "hash > square" so the dancers are prepared for the challenge. I replied: > I don't think most contra dancers know what a "hash square" is.

Re: [Callers] Glen Echo FND beginner lesson plan

ally have a few new dancers > but frequently they show up later in the evening. If there are no new dancers > there before the dance begins, we do not hold the workshop. > >> >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2013 13:11:13 -0400 >> From: Jeff Kaufman

Re: [Callers] Glen Echo FND beginner lesson plan

On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 6:47 PM, Bob Hofkin wrote: > > Glen Echo Sunday night has been doing a workshop for the past several years. > Ah, now I remember! The Glen Echo workshop wasn't in the hall itself, but in another area off to the side. This meant it didn't have an

Re: [Callers] Glen Echo FND beginner lesson plan

The regular evening dances we've played, with workshop status: Amherst MA: workshop Grey Eagle, Asheville NC: no workshop BIDA in Cambridge MA: workshop Baltimore MD: no workshop Belfast ME: workshop Brooklyn NY: workshop Charlestown MA: no workshop Charlotte NC: workshop Charlottesville VA:

Re: [Callers] Glen Echo FND beginner lesson plan

On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 11:43 PM, Greg McKenzie wrote: > > I think almost all contra dances provide some kind of orientation. > I think the fraction of dances with a beginners workshop is more like 30%. (With the Free Raisins I notice when there are workshops because while

Re: [Callers] "Techno" / "Crossover" (etc) Musician & Callers Alert

@Greg and other non-facebook users: Putting on "Techno" contra dances - my experience over the last 2 years Will Loving April 3, 2013 at 1:31pm The following is in response to a question on the Contra Dance FB page about how to plan/run/manage a "techno" contra dance. Introduction Over the

Re: [Callers] NO-CONES Swings & Hand Placement

On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 11:27 AM, John Sweeney wrote: > that only applies if the lady places her hand on the man's back. > I never teach that. I always tell ladies to rest their arm gently on the > man's upper arm. When the lady rests their hand on the gent's upper arm

Re: [Callers] Contra Academia?

I wrote about variation in how people do various figures in different places for my undergraduate linguistics thesis: http://www.jefftk.com/final-papers/thesis/contra-thesis-1-0-0.pdf On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 4:01 PM, Maia McCormick wrote: > Hey all, > > This might be a really

Re: [Callers] Suggestions for particularly flirty contra dances?

On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 4:11 AM, John Sweeney wrote: > it seems very silly to me to accuse someone of a hate crime just > because, regardless of how they feel about homosexuality, they > are uncomfortable with close-hold same-sex swings. > I'm confused: where did "hate

Re: [Callers] Suggestions for particularly flirty contra dances?

On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 1:55 PM, Aaron Redfern wrote: > Comfort aside, the nice thing about a symmetrical swing like the Galway for > same-gender-role swinging is that you don't have to worry about who takes > which position. If you spend four counts of an eight-count

Re: [Callers] What to ask a band before the gig?

On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 12:34 PM, Ron Blechner wrote: > I especially like hearing from callers who are also musicians. > When trying to choose tunes/sets with the Free Raisins we want to know from the caller what sort of feeling they have in mind for the dance and we like to

Re: [Callers] Gender disparity responsibilities (was: booking ahead)

On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 4:59 PM, Ryan Smith wrote: > Furthermore, since all of the men are comfortable dancing with each other, > had they just paired up normally, the leftover men could all have danced > with each other and therefore nobody sits out. Being comfortable

Re: [Callers] Gender disparity responsibilities (was: booking ahead)

On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 12:48 PM, Donald Perley wrote: > if you're partnering same gender, and it's the minority one (or only minority > due to same gender partnering) then you did help create the imbalance. > Same-gendered couples help weaken the convention that we dance

Re: [Callers] Progression and "Going Out"

On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 8:22 PM, joe micheals wrote: > When it comes to calling the last time through have any bands complained? As a musician and a caller, I have mixed feelings on callers jumping back in for the last time through. Changing the dance to end with a

Re: [Callers] Repertoire...

On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 2:15 AM, Kalia Kliban wrote: > > Instead of a R through with courtesy turn, do a no-hands pass-through > straight across and a California twirl into the circle. It feels great. > Isn't that the normal way to do a right and left through? ;) Jeff

Re: [Callers] Lead/Follow in a Swing

On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 3:20 PM, John Sweeney wrote: > The middle of a swing is a beautiful (almost) symmetrical move with the > man and lady (almost) completely equal. ... But in a swing there is also the > entry and exit. > It depends how you dance. In the way I'm most

Re: [Callers] Alternate Role Terms

On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 4:53 PM, Greg McKenzie wrote: > That's what I mean by a "lead" in contras. It is primarily between those > who know what happens next...and those who don't. When people talk about lead/follow in contra dance (or whether it is lead/follow), this isn't

Re: [Callers] Alternate Role Terms

On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 4:48 PM, Richard Mckeever wrote: > My feeling is a lot of the lead function is not needed in contra. > The caller and choreography eliminate the need for a leader > who decides what and when things will happen and then the > role of follower also becomes

Re: [Callers] Alternate Role Terms

On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 12:42 PM, Perry Shafran wrote: > What are you doing specifically to make you think that you are leading > or following when you do contra dance? When I'm dancing the gent's role I do several things that I think of as leading: - twirling on courtesy turns

Re: [Callers] Alternate Role Terms

On Tue, Jan 1, 2013 at 5:52 PM, Chrissy Fowler wrote: > > It does seem that some women dancers depend on leadership > from the gent role, and some men dancers feel pressure to direct > the non-gent role dancers. But I don't think there's any lead/follow > component

Re: [Callers] Named Moves

Read Weaver wrote: > The message I get is "only I can be helpful to newcomers; you > experienced dancers, don't even try." Unless you have a very experienced group, saying "mad robin" isn't enough that the people who don't know what it is will be able to get it from those that do. So you need to

Re: [Callers] Walk the Plank

Chris Lahey wrote: > I specifically told them that usually I encourage clapping and > talked about how nice it felt and actually got most of them to clap > for the first petronella and not for the second. I think presenting yourself as being on the pro-clapping side is probably key to why that

Re: [Callers] Calling for Absolute Beginners?

Maia McCormick wrote: > > The first: I'm curious how you all put together programs when calling for a > group of complete beginners. What's generally the progression of moves that > you teach? Do you think dances with the most basic of moves (say, a dance > that's all circles, stars, and long

Re: [Callers] Unusual Formations at Open, Public Contra Dances

Jeff Kaufman wrote: > cognitive load it's putting on everyone. And you should be > anticipating usually-helpful but currently-wrong assumptions dancers > make, heading them off before the dancers act on them. [2]) > [2] There is no second footnote. Jeff

Re: [Callers] Unusual Formations at Open, Public Contra Dances

Brian Hamshar wrote: > > a key to solving that problem of experienced dancers making > assumptions is to seriously economize on words in general, and then > when needed, you say something like, "Now listen up here, because > this isn't quite what you may be expecting." > I agree this is key.

Re: [Callers] Triplets

Michael Barraclough wrote: > > the tradition of calling the 1st 3 times fully, the next 3 partially > and the last 3 not at all. Tradition does not have to be followed, > but announcing that this will happen certainly sharpens the dancers' > attention. It is a useful tool in encouraging the

Re: [Callers] Unusual Formations at Open, Public Contra Dances

richg...@comcast.net wrote: > > I don't consider a triplet to be an "unusual" formation. I like > them. You can like unusual formations, but triplets at contras are unusual everywhere I've danced. As in, fewer than one out over every fifty dances is a triplet. > newcomers don't know the

Re: [Callers] Don't teach proper formation unless you need it

Jeff Kaufman wrote: > Chrissy Fowler wrote: > > > > I am curious about the phenomenon that Jeff refers to in this > > sentence. I've never danced at, or called, or even heard about a > > dance where the caller could "just wait for people to get into > > p

[Callers] Don't teach proper formation unless you need it

Contra dancing has almost entirely lost the 'proper' formation, with gents in one line and ladies in another. For most of contra dancing's history, however, that was the standard formation and many people, especially callers, still think of it that way. I was at a dance recently where the caller

Re: [Callers] Settlement Swing Balance Question

Liz and Bill wrote: > > Also Jeff's zesty timing for energetic, although the dance will > work the same with allemand right 1/2 (4) just as well. > Good point. The dance works with aleman N/2 for any N there's time for. (I just had 1x because that's what Nancy put.) Jeff

Re: [Callers] Settlement Swing Balance Question

Richard Fischer wrote: > I'd love to know what the timing of the components of A1 could > be. Especially, on which beats would the balance fall? I would expect: A1 (8) Neighbor dosido to long wavy line G face out, Ladies face in, rt hand to N (4) Bal the wave (4) alle right

Re: [Callers] Low numbers - slow starts

Mortland, Jo wrote: > > This has only happened a few times in my 10 years of calling, > (having very few couples at the start) so it is not a trend. I think in some places this is much more common than others. There are dances where you could call it a trend. Jeff

Re: [Callers] Contra / MWSD parallels?

David Millstone wrote: > > * The "basic figures" that one would meet in an evening was much > smaller, so the learning curve wasn't as steep. ... While there have been additions to what you might see at an evening, there are also things that used to be common that are gone. This decreases what

Re: [Callers] teaching a balance

Greg McKenzie wrote: > > A balance is done with the hands, and the eyes. No one will ever be > looking at your feet while you balance. > If you're doing it right they'll hear your feet, though. Jeff

Re: [Callers] shadow vs corner

Tavi Merrill wrote: > > terminology differences among "corner", "shadow", and "trail buddy". > I think of "corner" as being like "neigbor". In contra corners we have a "1st corner" and a "2nd corner" but they're really just neighbors. I've heard callers (Ted Crane, maybe?) use "corner" in

Re: [Callers] Shadow Dances?

Richard Mckeever wrote: > I like Susan Kevra's 'Trip to Phane' reel - but it seems to get > called more around Thanksgiving - maybe it is ready for a second > holiday. Dorcas Hand wrote: > > Gosh - I thought it was the Tryptophan Reel, after the amino acid > found in quantity in Turkey, which is

Re: [Callers] tune structure as second nature

Chrissy Fowler wrote: > > once in a great while there is a tune that just 'sounds backward.' > The A sounds to me like it's the B, and vice versa. I have no idea > why this is true, but it definitely is a phenomenon for me. > Inevitably I am thrown off track by those tunes, and sometimes do >

Re: [Callers] Swinging

Mark Widmer wrote: > > each person exerts 20 pounds on the other person, and nobody is > exerting 40 pounds. I really don't think so. Lets say the two of us are just connected by my hand on your back. It takes 20lbf to keep you from going flying, and 20lbf to keep me from going flying. So my

Re: [Callers] Re Swinging

Chris Lahey wrote: > > I got the same 20 lbs in my calculations, but I don't think you get to > double it. If I'm the gent, my hand is putting 20 lbs of force on the > ladies back. At the same time, her back is putting 20 lbs of force on my > hand. When we carry a 20 lb object, we're pulling up

Re: [Callers] Re Swinging

John Sweeney wrote: > > I get people to spin fast with a buzz-step by themselves first - > they never fall over even though no-one else is holding them up. If > they do the same thing when joined with a partner then the pressure > is low. > That's because a single person spins around in

Re: [Callers] Re Swinging

John Sweeney wrote: > > > If the lady additionally has their left hand on the back of the > > the gent's right shoulder, then the lady is doing more of the > > holding together and the gent can do less. > > Centrifugal force is not that great - if you are in balance the > pressure is tiny. > I

Re: [Callers] Re Swinging

John Sweeney wrote: > > > holding on to the gent a little bit so that he isn't the only one > > working during the swing. > > If you both keep your own balance and work the swing with your feet, > then the upper bodies should be an effortless, relaxed symmetrical, > counter-balanced, coupling that

Re: [Callers] Re Swinging

barb kirchner wrote: > > one of the biggest complaints i have had over the years is from guys > with painful shoulders and backs from swinging women who make the > gents do all the work. i believe this is a direct result of ladies > who put their hands on the front of the gents' arm and make him

Re: [Callers] Re Alternate Formations

John Sweeney wrote: > > that the term [contra dance] is not well defined and is used by > anyone running a dance to mean what they want it to mean > I don't think that's true. There is /some/ variety in what you'll find at a dance advertised in the united states as a "contra dance", but not that

Re: [Callers] Firedancing/ Hooping while calling and other possible future Burning Man innovations

Greg McKenzie wrote: > > There are calls, prompts, and cues. I use "calls" to refer to words > that can instruct everyone during the first walk-through. (Others > might call this "instructions.") Prompts are what you give out when > the music starts. Cues are what the dancers use to help them

Re: [Callers] Firedancing/ Hooping while calling and other possible future Burning Man innovations

Greg McKenzie wrote: > > I am most intrigued with the idea put forth by the burner contra folks of > using the lighting to reinforce the calls. Every phrase in the dance (A1, > A2, B1, and B2) could have a different color or effect setting. Using the > lighting as a reinforcement to the calls

Re: [Callers] Caller Fees

Will Loving wrote: > > What if your band consists of only two musicians? > Bida has dealt with requests by two person bands to be paid more in two ways: 1) paying them as a three person band, or 2) paying them the fee that would normally go to a sound person, in exchange for bringing and

Re: [Callers] Caller's Fees

Rich Goss wrote: > > Portland has an attendance range of 80-150. Hall is $300. > Updated! Jeff pgpxSwF_4YqRI.pgp Description: PGP signature

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Delia Clark wrote: > > Seeing your chart finally spurred me on to add our info to the > mix. ... Thanks! Added to chart. Jeff pgpj7CYE9I1Ug.pgp Description: PGP signature

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Dan Pearl wrote: > > In answer to questions, we give $50 to the person who provides/runs > the sound. > Thanks! I've made a summary chart: http://sccs.swarthmore.edu/~cbr/news/2011-07-08.html Jeff pgppxHXKbep09.pgp Description: PGP signature

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Michael Barraclough wrote: > Here are the terms and conditions for the Friday Night dance at Glen > Echo. ... Do you pay a sound person? Jeff pgp_sOhEUbS0F.pgp Description: PGP signature

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Dan Pearl wrote: > > I chair the Thursday Night Dance Committee of NEFFA, which runs a > weekly dance at the Concord Scout House, in Massachusetts. I would > characterize our pay as good. Here are the basics: ... Do you pay a sound person? Jeff pgpyrN5_sQM1p.pgp Description: PGP signature

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