Re: [ccp4bb] How to exclude resolution bins

2012-11-22 Thread Ed Pozharski
On 11/22/2012 03:40 AM, Wei Feng wrote: Dear all An ice ring is found in the raw image files and the resolution range is from 3.70-3.57A. I want to remove this ice ring by excluding the reolution bin. Can anyone tell me how to do? Thanks a lot ! Wei Feng iMosflm has the ice ring exclusion

Re: [ccp4bb] dihedral backbone generator

2012-11-20 Thread Ed Pozharski
On Mon, 2012-11-12 at 13:47 -0500, Ed Pozharski wrote: Does anyone know of a tool that would generate a protein molecule backbone from a set of phi/psi angles? For the record. Thanks to all who responded. Here is what I found out: 1. MOLEMAN works best. The most cumbersome part

Re: [ccp4bb] Off topic: Selecting atoms within a given distance from a target atom

2012-11-18 Thread Ed Pozharski
On 11/17/2012 03:04 PM, Rex Palmer wrote: I would like to specify a target atom in a pdb file and then isolate all atoms within a given distance of the target. The selected atoms are then to be placed in a new pdb file. AWKward BASHing: #! /bin/bash read x y z $(awk '{if(substr($0,1,4)==ATOM

Re: [ccp4bb] vitrification vs freezing

2012-11-16 Thread Ed Pozharski
On 11/16/2012 12:54 PM, Kendall Nettles wrote: I wouldn't go into the lab and say did you cryo-cool those crystals yet? or check out this nice crystal. Its ready for vitrification. If we speak the way scientific articles are written... By Bernard Dixon, published in New Scientist, 11

Re: [ccp4bb] model protein for ligand soaking

2012-11-09 Thread Ed Pozharski
On Fri, 2012-11-09 at 15:12 +0100, Ulrich Zander wrote: Does anybody have a suggestion for a protein/ligand combination that could be used for that and that is commercially available? Perhaps lysozyme complexed with some sugar? -- Bullseye! Excellent shot, Maurice.

Re: [ccp4bb] Problems in crystallization

2012-11-07 Thread Ed Pozharski
On Wed, 2012-11-07 at 16:04 +0200, Eva Bligt-Lindén wrote: To my knowledge the protein is not a surface-tension-reducing-protein and there is no detergent in the sample. However your observations indicate that your sample has reduced surface tension. When you say that to your knowledge

Re: [ccp4bb] low-resolution and zinc

2012-11-07 Thread Ed Pozharski
On Wed, 2012-11-07 at 11:29 -0600, SD Y wrote: https://www.dropbox.com/s/4jd6gdor87ab9lj/Zn-coordination.png Your sigma level of 6.5 seems a bit low, so maybe it is a different metal. But on your main question - yes, metal binding proteins do pick up metals from the media. Once metal is

Re: [ccp4bb] Intra-molecular interactions

2012-11-03 Thread Ed Pozharski
On 11/03/2012 12:06 PM, Xiaodi Yu wrote: how common it is that electrostatic interactions are involved in intra-molecular interactions, particularly in intrinsically disordered proteins? It's impossible to answer your question unless you define what you mean by degree of commonality. If you

Re: [ccp4bb] oof topic: pH effect on substrate analog

2012-10-31 Thread Ed Pozharski
On Tue, 2012-10-30 at 16:12 +, Peter Hsu wrote: I'm wondering, since I lack activity at this pH point, would it lead to no binding of a substrate analog? Not necessarily. You should check pH dependence of the Km - it might be that lower activity is primarily due to reduction in kcat.

Re: [ccp4bb] CCP4superpose_only superpose interesting residues

2012-10-25 Thread Ed Pozharski
On Thu, 2012-10-25 at 11:34 +0100, Eleanor Dodson wrote: You can use superpose LSQKAB to fit various residues by number.. Eleanor Eleanor is absolutely right. Coot has Calculate-LSQ superpose option for that. I feel what needs to be reiterated is that CCP4 superpose uses SSM - secondary

Re: [ccp4bb] Salt bridge in crystallization

2012-10-19 Thread Ed Pozharski
On 10/19/2012 10:37 PM, Acoot Brett wrote: Will you please explain to me why the protein salt bridge can still exist in the high salt concentration as used in the crystallization condition? You are saying it as if there is some fundamental law of nature that says that salt bridges cannot

Re: [ccp4bb] electron density peak volume

2012-07-06 Thread Ed Pozharski
On 07/06/2012 09:40 AM, Andrew Pannifer wrote: Hi, Is there a way to ask peakmax to output the volume of each electron density peak that it detects (or is there a reasonably straightforward way to do this via an alternative command line runnable approach?) Cheers, Alan There might be a

Re: [ccp4bb] hi all

2012-06-27 Thread Ed Pozharski
Your question is way to broad to be answered in a reasonable time/space. As for books (plenty of options exist beyond these) There is a 1976 classic http://www.amazon.com/Protein-Crystallography-Molecular-Biology-Series/dp/0121083500 And of course there is a more recent highly recommended

[ccp4bb] pdb sequence search

2012-06-22 Thread Ed Pozharski
Silly question. Say I want to find every structure in the PDB with the exact sequence or with perhaps 1-2 mutations. I know of two ways of doing this. 1. Go to NCBI BLAST and run the sequence against the PDB subset. The resulting list will have identities listed, so manual parsing is

Re: [ccp4bb] pdb sequence search

2012-06-22 Thread Ed Pozharski
Tim, I did not understand your objection against solution 1 - is it because it is not automated? You can sort the results by max. Ident so that you can sroll down to the limit you set yourself. More that it does not generate a list of PDB IDs. What I want to do is to find every structure

Re: [ccp4bb] llg is negative in phaser

2012-06-19 Thread Ed Pozharski
On Tue, 2012-06-19 at 16:43 +0800, LISA wrote: Hi all, does anyone solve their structure by molecular replacement with phaser with LLG 0? Thanks lisa AFAIU, this means that your estimate of the solvent content is too low. If you increase that, eventually you should get positive LLG.

Re: [ccp4bb] Tool for calculating RMSD

2012-06-19 Thread Ed Pozharski
just do this one-liner (assuming that your numbering is not messed up and you have the first atom) grep 'ATOM 1' model1.pdb model2.pdb | cut -d: -f 2 | cut -c 31-54 | awk '{printf %s ,$0;}' | awk '{print sqrt(($1-$4)^2+($2-$5)^2 +($3-$6)^2);}' On Tue, 2012-06-19 at 15:04 +, Claudia

Re: [ccp4bb] Tool for calculating RMSD

2012-06-19 Thread Ed Pozharski
On Tue, 2012-06-19 at 17:31 +0200, Robbie Joosten wrote: What if the displacement is a translation and a rotation? Excellent point. A slight modification of this http://strucbio.biologie.uni-konstanz.de/ccp4wiki/index.php/Print_the_shifts_in_individual_atom_positions will do as follows grep

Re: [ccp4bb] Model submission

2012-06-19 Thread Ed Pozharski
On Tue, 2012-06-19 at 11:07 -0500, Jacob Keller wrote: What extra insight does the full-length protein give, i.e., why not just chuck it? It proves that the N-terminus does not have a strong influence on the rest of the structure. Other words, it's OK to draw conclusions about the

[ccp4bb] postdoctoral position in protein crystallography

2012-06-06 Thread Ed Pozharski
will be considered a plus. Please submit your letter of interest, resume and contact information of 3 references to epozh...@rx.umaryland.edu. -- Ed Pozharski epozh...@umaryland.edu University of Maryland - Baltimore

Re: [ccp4bb] CME

2012-06-05 Thread Ed Pozharski
On Tue, 2012-06-05 at 15:26 +0530, Faisal Tarique wrote: how to proceed with submission, can i show it as a modified residue CME or cys in disulfide bond with bme You can do either. One could potentially argue that cys+bme is more appropriate since the protein presumably had cysteine which was

[ccp4bb]

2012-06-04 Thread Ed Pozharski
Is it reasonable to refine occupancy in phenix at 2.2 A resolution? Implementations may differ, but imgo refining occupancy at 2.2A resolution is not very reasonable under most circumstances, as it will correlate strongly with the B-factor. A reasonable approach might be to fix occupancy at

Re: [ccp4bb] @Ed: Death of Rmerge

2012-06-04 Thread Ed Pozharski
On Sat, 2012-06-02 at 23:32 -0700, aaleshin wrote: Was not Z. Otwinowski first to use it in his scalepack? Maybe I missed something, but given the hoops I have to jump through to get Rpim calculated after scalepack (basically take unmerged data to either the program from Manfred Weiss or SCALA)

[ccp4bb]

2012-06-04 Thread Ed Pozharski
On Mon, 2012-06-04 at 13:11 -0500, Katherine Sippel wrote: Though as a disclaimer it was a 1.2 angstrom data set Which is about 6x more data than 2.2A... Certainly, at atomic resolution the results of occupancy refinement will be more robust. To be fair, even at 2.2A such refinement may

Re: [ccp4bb] Death of Rmerge

2012-06-01 Thread Ed Pozharski
http://www.nature.com/nsmb/journal/v4/n4/abs/nsb0497-269.html http://scripts.iucr.org/cgi-bin/paper?S0021889800018227 Just collect 360 sweep instead of 180 on a non-decaying crystal and see Rmerge go up due to increase in multiplicity (and enough with redundancy term - the extra data is not

Re: [ccp4bb] alternative conformation refinement by phenix

2012-05-25 Thread Ed Pozharski
On Fri, 2012-05-25 at 19:01 +0800, LISA wrote: try to refine this structure by phenix but failed. Not that I have an answer to your question, but you have to describe what you mean by failed. Maybe you should try refmac. Will also make your inquiry better suited for this forum (although it's

[ccp4bb] zero mosaicity

2012-05-25 Thread Ed Pozharski
I should do more digging, but I hope maybe there is a simple explanation and someone has seen this before. On some datasets (collected at SSRL) I get SCALA reporting average mosaicity of 0.0. This probably happens at the integration stage, and for this whole set of datasets *always* happens when

Re: [ccp4bb] zero mosaicity

2012-05-25 Thread Ed Pozharski
much improved in the latest versions of the program. Best wishes, Graeme On 25 May 2012 16:12, Ed Pozharski epozh...@umaryland.edu wrote: I should do more digging, but I hope maybe there is a simple explanation and someone has seen this before. On some datasets (collected at SSRL

Re: [ccp4bb] partial specific volume

2012-05-24 Thread Ed Pozharski
On Thu, 2012-05-24 at 14:11 +0200, Eike Schulz wrote: Are there other ways to calculate the volume of a protein/complex from pdb-coordinates, maybe an alternative to SURFACE/VOLUME? For a non-ccp4 solution, consider hydropro http://leonardo.inf.um.es/macromol/programs/hydropro/hydropro.htm

Re: [ccp4bb] Calculating ED Maps from structure factor files with no sigma

2012-05-23 Thread Ed Pozharski
I may be wrong here (and please by all means correct me), but I think it's not entirely true that experimental errors are not used in modern map calculation algorithm. At the very least, the 2mFo-DFc maps are calibrated to the model error (which can be ideologically seen as the error of

Re: [ccp4bb] Calculating ED Maps from structure factor files with no sigma

2012-05-23 Thread Ed Pozharski
On Wed, 2012-05-23 at 10:02 -0500, Pete Meyer wrote: bviously model and experimental errors do factor into calculation of a 2mFo-DFc map - but is weight and structure factor calculation part of map calculation, or a distinct stage of data processing? Oh, I see. Sure, when the map

Re: [ccp4bb] Calculating ED Maps from structure factor files with no sigma

2012-05-23 Thread Ed Pozharski
On Wed, 2012-05-23 at 18:06 +0300, Nicholas M Glykos wrote: This is an amplitude modification. It does not change the fact that the sigmas are not being used in the inversion procedure Nicholas, I am not sure I understand this - perhaps we are talking about different things. Even if by

Re: [ccp4bb] Calculating ED Maps from structure factor files with no sigma

2012-05-23 Thread Ed Pozharski
On Wed, 2012-05-23 at 18:06 +0300, Nicholas M Glykos wrote: It seems that although you are not doubting the importance of maximum likelihood for refinement, you do seem to doubt the importance of closely related probabilistic methods (such as maximum entropy methods) for map calculation.

[ccp4bb] crystallization analysis software

2012-05-23 Thread Ed Pozharski
Does anyone know of a (non-commercial) software that can analyze results of a crystallization screen? What I am looking for is some way to tell what components/factors favor protein solubility/precipitation based on binary input (clear drop/precipitate). I did some googling, but please feel free

Re: [ccp4bb] CYS-BME link

2012-05-17 Thread Ed Pozharski
On Thu, 2012-05-17 at 15:12 +0100, Paul Emsley wrote: In Coot 0.7, to draw a bond between monomers that don't have an implicit connection due their serial number, you need a LINK record. You can add a LINK using Extensions - Modelling. Thanks - is there some way to remove the link

Re: [ccp4bb] Strange Density

2012-05-15 Thread Ed Pozharski
On Tue, 2012-05-15 at 15:51 +0100, RHYS GRINTER wrote: A colleague suggested that sulphate or phosphate could fit at these distances, but these ions have not been added at any stage of the crystallisation process. I vaguely remember a report about 2-3 years ago at the ACA meeting of

[ccp4bb] completeness in scala

2012-05-15 Thread Ed Pozharski
Just a curiosity - I have a dataset at 1.45A for which SCALA reports the highest resolution shell completeness at 100.1%. I am impressed :-) -- Hurry up before we all come back to our senses! Julian, King of Lemurs

Re: [ccp4bb] question on metal refinement in a protein structure

2012-05-14 Thread Ed Pozharski
On Sat, 2012-05-12 at 08:48 -0400, Dave Roberts wrote: However, I just want to make sure the metal environment is not due to the fact that I did something wrong in my refinement script - thus making it tetrahedral because it was refined as tetrahedral. ... I don't use CCP4 for refinement, I

Re: [ccp4bb] Deposition of riding H

2012-05-14 Thread Ed Pozharski
On Sat, 2012-05-12 at 19:28 +0100, Yuri Pompeu wrote: Dear community, I am probably disturbing a sleeping bear definitely so Reading the thread on hydrogen deposition with the model, I came accross several arguments that make sense on their own, but when put together are puzzling and dont

Re: [ccp4bb] how to ignore spot overlap in imosflm?

2012-05-14 Thread Ed Pozharski
On Mon, 2012-05-14 at 13:01 -0400, Bosch, Juergen wrote: Although the question was asked for Mosflm I would like to briefly p[oint out that you might be able to also rescue your data by using a program that does 3D profile fitting e.g. d*trek and XDS. For the sake of completeness (and nothing

Re: [ccp4bb] high temp factor in coot!

2012-04-24 Thread Ed Pozharski
http://mathworld.wolfram.com/StandardDeviation.html On Tue, 2012-04-24 at 09:13 +0800, Qixu Cai wrote: Dear Ed, Why the variance is the square of standard deviation? thank you very much! 在 2012年4月23日,20:53,Ed Pozharski epozh...@umaryland.edu 写道: On Sun, 2012-04-22 at 12:47 +0530

Re: [ccp4bb] high temp factor in coot!

2012-04-23 Thread Ed Pozharski
On Sun, 2012-04-22 at 12:47 +0530, Arka Chakraborty wrote: baverage program in ccp4 gave average bfactor of 25.0 for the residue but coot is showing 150! Variance is the square of standard deviation, thus var=150 means sigmaB~12 in that particular residue. High, but not impossible. -- I

Re: [ccp4bb] high R factor calculated by sfcheck

2012-04-23 Thread Ed Pozharski
On Mon, 2012-04-23 at 23:39 +0800, Qixu Cai wrote: Dear all, I have solved a 3.5ang structure with R/Rfree = 0.23/0.32 (refmac5.6 result). But when I used sfcheck to validate the coordinates and structure factors, I got a high R factor 0.38 ! Could anybody tell me the reason? Is that

Re: [ccp4bb] Off-topic: Supplying PDB file to reviewers

2012-04-20 Thread Ed Pozharski
It seems that this discussion has somehow reached the conclusion that if a reviewer asks for model/data, there absolutely must be an ulterior motive to cheat you out of your high profile publication. On the other hand, it seems like the intent of such reviewer is also misunderstood as if the only

Re: [ccp4bb] phaser: high z score but no sol

2012-04-19 Thread Ed Pozharski
As Randy pointed out, you should check Patterson map for off-origin peaks. There is also a small chance that you actually have P2 - systematic absences may result from tNCS nearly colinear with crystallographic axis. On Thu, 2012-04-19 at 14:20 +0800, LISA wrote: Hi all, I am trying to solve

Re: [ccp4bb] Molecular Replacement

2012-04-18 Thread Ed Pozharski
On Tue, 2012-04-17 at 17:49 -0400, Uma Ratu wrote: In order to have my target .pdb, I need to mutate the residues using coot? Others already recommended CHAINSAW to prepare the model. Note that coot has a nice feature under Extensions-All molecule... called [Post MR] Fill partial residues

Re: [ccp4bb] Off-topic: Supplying PDB file to reviewers

2012-04-18 Thread Ed Pozharski
I always request both the final model and the experimental data (assuming that they are not yet available directly from the PDB). Obviously, this is done with assurances of confidentiality. I don't think it's common though, since I was never asked to provide the same by reviewers. What exactly

Re: [ccp4bb] Molecular replacement

2012-04-18 Thread Ed Pozharski
36% solvent sounds too low. Most protein crystals are at ~50%. On the other hand, if you assume one molecule, your solvent content jumps to 68% - not unheard of, but somewhat high for 1.7A resolution dataset. But you have a good MR solution, just try to refine/rebuild and see what you have in

Re: [ccp4bb] bulk solvent treatment inside protein cavities

2012-04-17 Thread Ed Pozharski
On Tue, 2012-04-17 at 11:08 +0200, Dirk Kostrewa wrote: The mask bulk solvent correction is more powerful Just to note that sometimes Babinet solvent correction returns lower Rfree and thus may be preferred to mask (assuming that the Rfree is the only thing that matters). Beginning with

Re: [ccp4bb] Checking in dry shippers?

2012-04-17 Thread Ed Pozharski
On Tue, 2012-04-17 at 20:03 +0100, Frank von Delft wrote: Hi, thanks for all responses. Most people suggested avoiding the scenario altogether, which was cute but not the question. As far as US is concerned, the FAA instructions to air carriers http://lmgtfy.com/?q=faa+liquid+nitrogenl=1

Re: [ccp4bb] core rmsd in coot

2012-04-04 Thread Ed Pozharski
On Wed, 2012-04-04 at 17:31 +0100, Eleanor Dodson wrote: I wish Paul, that at least SOME of the great info that coot prints to the screen then scrolls out of sight could be directed to a very-useful-things-to-remember box.. Eleanor Won't coot | tee very_useful_things_to_remember.txt do

Re: [ccp4bb] Who is using 64-bit Linux?

2012-04-03 Thread Ed Pozharski
Whatever you do, make sure you have enough bottled water before the next doomsday: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Year_2038_problem I am using 64-bit linux almost exclusively for some time now. XRD software works fine, no lingering issues that I can report. ia32-libs do the trick for 32-bit

Re: [ccp4bb] about heavy atom derivatization

2012-03-30 Thread Ed Pozharski
http://www.ccp4.ac.uk/dist/examples/tutorial/html/heavy-tutorial-mir.html seems relevant On Fri, 2012-03-30 at 19:04 +0530, Shanti Pal Gangwar wrote: Dear all I am beginner in crystallography.We have collected a native data of a given protein at 2.2A resolution but are unable t solve by MR

Re: [ccp4bb] Coot set-refine-max-residues

2012-03-27 Thread Ed Pozharski
works here on 0.7-pre-1 rev 3713 so try downloading the latest version if yours is 3713 On Tue, 2012-03-27 at 14:50 +0100, Morten Grøftehauge wrote: set-refine-max-residues -- Oh, suddenly throwing a giraffe into a volcano to make water is crazy?

Re: [ccp4bb] COOT Real Space Refinement keyboard shortcut??

2012-03-27 Thread Ed Pozharski
I suspect Chris is asking for the shortcut to the zone refinement button, i.e. invoking the manual zone selection. Not sure if there is a scripting way to do this, nothing obvious. On Tue, 2012-03-27 at 17:03 +0100, Debreczeni, Judit wrote: Yes, look here:

Re: [ccp4bb] REFMAC5 residues with bad geometry

2012-03-26 Thread Ed Pozharski
I agree with Eleanor 100%... In my biased opinion, only the atoms supported by electron density should be included in deposited models. To satisfy the but this will mess up the electrostatic potential coloring argument (a valid one, of course), the projected model can be deposited alongside

Re: [ccp4bb] REFMAC5 residues with bad geometry

2012-03-26 Thread Ed Pozharski
On Mon, 2012-03-26 at 10:17 -0400, Gregory Bowman wrote: But what about the issue of resolution? As was previously pointed out, at say 3.2 Å resolution, many side chains will fail to fit, but it doesn't seem appropriate to trim them all down. Why is it inappropriate to trim them down?

Re: [ccp4bb] REFMAC5 residues with bad geometry

2012-03-26 Thread Ed Pozharski
On Mon, 2012-03-26 at 16:30 +0200, herman.schreu...@sanofi.com wrote: It is like with Heisenbergs uncertainty principle. Either one has a complete model with a number of atoms having a coordinate uncertainty of 4-6 Å, or one has a model where the uncertainty of all atoms is below say 0.5 Å,

Re: [ccp4bb] Unable to reproduce robot tray hits in hand trays

2012-03-26 Thread Ed Pozharski
On Mon, 2012-03-26 at 11:57 -0600, Matthew Lalonde wrote: What parameters should I vary to reproduce crystals in hand plates? First of all, protein concentration. It also does not hurt diluting your reservoir since you are getting precipitates. If your goal is to get bigger crystals (which is

Re: [ccp4bb] van der Waals distances

2012-03-21 Thread Ed Pozharski
On Wed, 2012-03-21 at 10:16 +0100, Rubén Sánchez Eugenia wrote: In Physical Chemistry Van der Waals interacions are defined as all type of forces between molecules (or parts of them) excluding covalent bonds and electrostatic interactions. So, you are right that the most common forces included

Re: [ccp4bb] van der Waals distances

2012-03-21 Thread Ed Pozharski
Technically, no. You may be able to exclude nuclear forces, but gravity certainly isn't included in Maxwell's equations. The other forces can simply be neglected because their contribution is negligible when molecular interactions are concerned. On Wed, 2012-03-21 at 08:42 -0500, David Mueller

Re: [ccp4bb] using pymol for making movie of change in protein structure

2012-03-21 Thread Ed Pozharski
This may be useful http://strucbio.biologie.uni-konstanz.de/ccp4wiki/index.php/Morph_with_Chimera http://pymol.sourceforge.net/newman/user/S0300movies.html On Wed, 2012-03-21 at 22:52 +0800, sonali dhindwal wrote: Dear All, My query is slightly out of scope of ccp4. I need some

Re: [ccp4bb] microseeding

2012-03-19 Thread Ed Pozharski
Scaling up 100nl drops is problematic. What I understand is that it is not only the different equilibration conditions, but primarily the amount of protein that gets absorbed on the surface is relatively higher for small drops. There were some empirical formula for scaling up (i.e. how much you

Re: [ccp4bb] cloning HD

2012-03-17 Thread Ed Pozharski
On Sat, 2012-03-17 at 08:44 -0400, Hena Dutta wrote: I tried with clonezill and it did not work. There are many problems with what you are trying to do. 1. Windows license is tied to the hardware, thus it's not likely to work out of the box if you clone the whole drive. 2. Even though it's

Re: [ccp4bb] Help! weird thing

2012-03-17 Thread Ed Pozharski
One comment I'd like to add here is that in the presence of pseudo-translational ncs that is nearly colinear with crystal axes you will have a significantly higher R-value. This may be a serious problem with some reviewers when your R~30% on a 2A dataset. It is completely justified then to have

Re: [ccp4bb] protein stain, B-PER

2012-03-15 Thread Ed Pozharski
By mechanical disruption you mean sonication only or have you tried the French press? Assuming that you use sonication, and assuming that you follow a fairly standard protocol (e.g. something like 10sec pulse/20sec pause on ice for 3 minutes total), it may be heat not ultrasound that gets to it.

Re: [ccp4bb] How to reduce R factor

2012-03-14 Thread Ed Pozharski
On Wed, 2012-03-14 at 09:26 +, Dipankar Manna wrote: After running molrep R-factor is around 53% (100% identity), after rigid body refinement its showing around 49% and after restrained refinement its showing around 47%. Sounds like you didn't get a solution. With 100% identity MR in

Re: [ccp4bb] Disulfide bonds

2012-03-04 Thread Ed Pozharski
If you are looking for predicting disulfide bonds, then this may be useful http://lmgtfy.com/?q=predict+disulfide+bonds Cheers, Ed. -- Hurry up, before we all come back to our senses! Julian, King of Lemurs

Re: [ccp4bb] Temp Fact Variance Analysis

2012-03-01 Thread Ed Pozharski
2. How do I fix them? delete the side chains? Here we go again. Take a look at these threads http://www.dl.ac.uk/list-archive-public/ccp4bb/msg19738.html http://phenix-online.org/pipermail/phenixbb/2011-March/016875.html -- Oh, suddenly throwing a giraffe into a volcano to make water is

Re: [ccp4bb] Choice of wavelength

2012-02-13 Thread Ed Pozharski
On Mon, 2012-02-13 at 21:02 +, Theresa H. Hsu wrote: Hi all. When collecting data, is there a specific wavelength to be chosen at synchrotron source? Does it make difference between 0.9 and 1.5 A, for example? I know it is important for SAD/MAD but how about MIR? Thank you.

Re: [ccp4bb] Freezing crystal

2012-02-06 Thread Ed Pozharski
On Sun, 2012-02-05 at 22:49 +, Theresa H. Hsu wrote: Crystals are from 2 M ammonium sulfate. begin \personal_bias Sodium malonate is your friend http://scripts.iucr.org/cgi-bin/paper?fw5004 end -- Oh, suddenly throwing a giraffe into a volcano to make water is crazy?

Re: [ccp4bb] Soaking Kinase Crystals with ATP analogues

2012-02-03 Thread Ed Pozharski
Consider cross-linking crystals with glutaraldehyde. The caveat here is that you may end up with the protein conformation that is forced by lattice, but if the issue is just the fragility, you should be fine. I assume that crystals simply crack but do not dissolve? Certainly, as others have

[ccp4bb] secondary structure output

2012-01-24 Thread Ed Pozharski
I am looking for a program/server that would determine secondary structure from a pdb file and then output a new pdb file with HELIX/SHEET records. I have a model for which pymol fails to produce correct secondary structure. DSSP and STRIDE identify the secondary structure correctly but I'd need

Re: [ccp4bb] Problem with getting Rfree and Rf down

2012-01-23 Thread Ed Pozharski
These R-values are reasonable: http://xray.bmc.uu.se/gerard/supmat/rfree2000/plotter.html On Mon, 2012-01-23 at 21:48 +, Sam Arnosti wrote: Hi every one I have some crystals in the space group P3121. I collect 180 frames of data. My crystals do not diffract better than at most 2.0

Re: [ccp4bb] His Purification

2012-01-18 Thread Ed Pozharski
On Wed, 2012-01-18 at 18:26 +0530, PULSARSTRIAN wrote: The Problem is I am not able to get rid of the infamous contamination proteins of arnA gene (72 kDa) and glmS gene (67 kDa). This is only a problem if you plan to have imac purification as your only step. If the goal is crystallization,

Re: [ccp4bb] RMSD of side chains

2012-01-13 Thread Ed Pozharski
On Fri, 2012-01-13 at 10:40 -0800, Ethan Merritt wrote: Which of these two statements would be more useful: 1) The RMSD for sidechain atoms between apo and holo was 0.678 Å. or 2) Only two residues exhibited a significant change of conformation: Perhaps the same is true for the

Re: [ccp4bb] Lithium versus Sodium

2012-01-12 Thread Ed Pozharski
On Thu, 2012-01-12 at 09:52 +, Patel, Joe wrote: Do you have ultra-high resolution? Something I did not…. Are there many examples in the pdb of proteins with Li+ refined? http://www.ebi.ac.uk/thornton-srv/databases/cgi-bin/pdbsum/GetPage.pl?pdbcode=n/atemplate=het2pdb.htmlparam1=_LI 39 in

Re: [ccp4bb] Lithium versus Sodium

2012-01-12 Thread Ed Pozharski
at 10:23 -0500, Matthew Franklin wrote: On 1/12/12 9:42 AM, Ed Pozharski wrote: On Thu, 2012-01-12 at 09:52 +, Patel, Joe wrote: Do you have ultra-high resolution? Something I did not…. Are there many examples in the pdb of proteins with Li+ refined? http://www.ebi.ac.uk/thornton-srv

Re: [ccp4bb] Sub-angstrom resolution

2012-01-10 Thread Ed Pozharski
On Tue, 2012-01-10 at 09:04 +, Colin Nave wrote: Yes, I think Ed's analysis is a bit misleading. I apologize if I misled anyone. Re-reading my post, I can see that it lacked precision. Indeed, in a perfect monocrystal all the molecules are lined up perfectly, so I should have emphasized

Re: [ccp4bb] reliable/unreliable maps?

2012-01-10 Thread Ed Pozharski
On Tue, 2012-01-10 at 13:25 +, Luca Pellegrini wrote: This is not a reliable map. There are many reasons why one could get the gap in R-values. As the proud author of an unreliable map myself (3pht), I found that what did it was that the TLS-refined model was deposited with the full

Re: [ccp4bb] Sub-angstrom resolution

2012-01-10 Thread Ed Pozharski
On Tue, 2012-01-10 at 18:30 +, Theresa H. Hsu wrote: Thank you for the interesting replies so far. Please let me ask a related question - at what resolution should we stop efforts to get better diffracting crystals? Are there *biological* questions that a model with 1.8-2.0 A

Re: [ccp4bb] R-Sym statistics in solved structures

2012-01-09 Thread Ed Pozharski
On Mon, 2012-01-09 at 10:28 +, Guillaume Gotthard wrote: Is there a mean to obtain statistics about R-Sym for deposited structures databases ? 1. It's actually quite easy to do on your own if you want. This one-liner will get you the Rsym wget

Re: [ccp4bb] Sub-angstrom resolution

2012-01-09 Thread Ed Pozharski
On Mon, 2012-01-09 at 18:15 +, Theresa H. Hsu wrote: Dear crystallographers A theoretical question - can sub-angstrom resolution structures only be obtained for a limited set of proteins? Is it impossible to achieve for membrane proteins and large complexes? Theresa On the matter

Re: [ccp4bb] low resolution of DNA binding protein

2012-01-06 Thread Ed Pozharski
On Fri, 2012-01-06 at 20:40 +0800, LISA wrote: Hi all, I have a DNA binding protein. I get crystals of this protein by co-crystallization with different dsDNAs. But all the crystals have very poor resolution, about 10-20A. I tried to purify protein-DNA complex before setting trays, but it

Re: [ccp4bb] Structure Determination combining X-ray Data and NMR

2012-01-06 Thread Ed Pozharski
and R-factor/R-free have a value of 0.328/0.326. Notice that RfreeR. This may be caused by twinning and/or NCS, as the test set is not truly independent of the working set. The question is, as I only have ~3000 reflections, and the atoms in the sequence is around 1000, and each atom there

Re: [ccp4bb] At what resolution is (individual,group,one per residue, two per residue) appropriate? was Re: [ccp4bb] Structure Determination combining X-ray Data and NMR

2012-01-06 Thread Ed Pozharski
On Fri, 2012-01-06 at 11:18 -0700, Francis E Reyes wrote: I've seen the following question asked: At what resolution is (individual,group,one per residue, two per residue,overall) appropriate? My personal opinion is that the individual B-factor refinement with restraints proper to the

Re: [ccp4bb] Structure Determination combining X-ray Data and NMR

2012-01-06 Thread Ed Pozharski
On Fri, 2012-01-06 at 10:48 -0800, Ethan Merritt wrote: A TLS model is more likely to be appropriate. A quick clarification request if I may: We all seen how well the multi-group TLS models seem to match the B-factor variation along the chain. Is this in your opinion how such model may be

Re: [ccp4bb] From non-twinned to twinned?

2012-01-05 Thread Ed Pozharski
On Thu, 2012-01-05 at 20:40 +0800, Zhiyi Wei wrote: Is it possible that this two regions has different crystal domain arrangement (one is normal and another is twinned)? Absolutely. This will, of course, vary for different crystal systems, but from what I have seen it appears that a

Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac and metal on a two-fold?

2012-01-01 Thread Ed Pozharski
I've seen this happening to water molecules as well (in a somewhat unpredictable fashion). In the latest refmac versions, you can try harmonic restraints, although these will only slow down the atom drift, as the target position is updated every cycle. Perhaps you can use distance restraints

Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac and metal on a two-fold?

2012-01-01 Thread Ed Pozharski
On Sun, 2012-01-01 at 12:14 -0600, Dima Klenchin wrote: With Garib's help, I have forced the atom into its position by using external distance restrains of zero length against the same symmetry-related atom. The cause is unclear because the same program handles special positions in another

Re: [ccp4bb] Help me install O on ubuntu11.10

2011-12-27 Thread Ed Pozharski
Did you try following these instructions: http://xray.bmc.uu.se/alwyn/O_to_Go/O_to_Go_frameset.html ? On Mon, 2011-12-26 at 18:53 +0800, 王瑞 wrote: Excuse me, could anyone can tell me how to install O on ubuntu11.10 ?Thanks a lot !

Re: [ccp4bb] PHENIX vs REFMAC refinement had me fooled

2011-12-13 Thread Ed Pozharski
On Tue, 2011-12-13 at 02:31 +, Yuri Pompeu wrote: Hi Ed, I just had a chance of looking at your comment more closely. You are right it only uses PHIC if in refmacs set up you choose to refine with prior phase information -AFAIU. So what exactly is the info contained in the output

Re: [ccp4bb] PHENIX vs REFMAC refinement had me fooled

2011-12-11 Thread Ed Pozharski
On Sun, 2011-12-11 at 05:28 +, Yuri Pompeu wrote: In refmac however the newly generated refmacX.mtz file contains phase info as PHIC calculated from your model. Using this for subsequent rounds of refinement results in terrific looking maps as they are now biased (even more so) by the

Re: [ccp4bb] PHENIX vs REFMAC refinement had me fooled

2011-12-09 Thread Ed Pozharski
On Fri, 2011-12-09 at 05:45 -0800, Pavel Afonine wrote: just a remark: for phenix.refine it does not matter where the flags come from and what is the test/work value since it automatically scores the values in the flags array and guesses the right one. Still one can imagine corner case, so

Re: [ccp4bb] How to manually dock the rigid molecule into the active site

2011-12-08 Thread Ed Pozharski
On Thu, 2011-12-08 at 17:49 +0800, Dr. STEPHEN SIN-YIN, CHUI wrote: I tried to look at all density regions bit by bit, but the density for the protein atoms always interfere with my vision. Is it possible to mask out the density of protein atoms, Isn't that what difference density map is

Re: [ccp4bb] model building at 3.2 A

2011-12-08 Thread Ed Pozharski
On Thu, 2011-12-08 at 12:17 +0530, atul kumar wrote: I can't build anything in this region,this could be because of disordered structure or because of low resolution. Both, and also the presence of disordered fragment may be the reason the resolution is low, thus the already mentioned

Re: [ccp4bb] better way to post your density snapshots

2011-12-08 Thread Ed Pozharski
There is indeed the phenix.cut_out_density tool (by Tom Terwilliger) which does a nice job of reducing the size of the output mtz-file (it shifts the cutout region to the origin and reduces the unit cell). On the link-versus-attachment issue, certainly the link is preferred, but the

Re: [ccp4bb] Reference for Resolution Cutoffs

2011-12-06 Thread Ed Pozharski
On Tue, 2011-12-06 at 13:43 -0600, Jacob Keller wrote: The question is: is there a reference in which Rmerge has been thoroughly, clearly, and authoritatively discredited as a data evaluation metric in the favor of Rmeas, Rpim, etc., and if so, what is that reference? Aren't these

[ccp4bb] jumping ligand

2011-11-30 Thread Ed Pozharski
Did anyone ever seen a ligand molecule (or water, maybe) moved into a symmetry-related position upon refinement in refmac? If that is a feature (e.g. to make sure that non-protein stuff is coordinated to the spot of the closest contact), how can I disable it? Cheers, Ed. -- Oh, suddenly

Re: [ccp4bb] Manually setting 96 wells plates with lower volume samples!

2011-11-18 Thread Ed Pozharski
On Fri, 2011-11-18 at 06:34 -0800, xaravich ivan wrote: Ok, now I do not have an easy access to crystallization robot, so I was hoping if someone here have ever used the 96 well plates for manually setting drops with much lower solution/sample volumes (0.1-0.2micro litres). The best we

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