Re: [ccp4bb] Opinion on automation

2012-02-17 Thread Poul Nissen
Dear theresa xia2 does a great job so it can be used as your reference when processing your data manually, either for learning or improvement. When comparing different processing programs and protocols try to judge data quality by some objectice criteria like HA site identification, anomalous

Re: [ccp4bb] Bicelle Crystallization in a Gryphon Robot

2012-02-16 Thread Poul Nissen
Sorry for self promotion but you might also consider the HILIDE method which is very similar to bicelle and sponge, only having fully solubilized protein:lipid:detergent complexes as input sample and therefore being fully compatible with regular liquid handling robotics. See Gourdon P et al

Re: [ccp4bb] Crystal Structures as Snapshots

2012-02-11 Thread Poul Nissen
Another good lesson here: 2. The SAXS solution structure of RF1 differs from its crystal structure and is similar to its ribosome bound cryo-EM structure. Vestergaard B, Sanyal S, Roessle M, Mora L, Buckingham RH, Kastrup JS, Gajhede M, Svergun DI, Ehrenberg M. Mol Cell. 2005 Dec

Re: [ccp4bb] No diffraction

2012-01-26 Thread Poul Nissen
But first of all: try to add a synchrotron to the crystals Poul On 26/01/2012, at 16.48, Katherine Sippel wrote: Might I suggest consulting the CCP4 user community wiki on the topic: http://strucbio.biologie.uni-konstanz.de/ccp4wiki/index.php/Improving_crystal_quality Good luck,

Re: [ccp4bb] detect dsDNA

2011-10-02 Thread Poul Nissen
We chewed pills with EtBr as kids in school to see if we brushed our teeth well - red colour on the edges, bad boy Poul On 01/10/2011, at 19.12, Jacob Keller j-kell...@fsm.northwestern.edu wrote: I actually looked at an EtBr MSDS a while ago, and was shocked at how benign it was. I also

Re: [ccp4bb] drops swelling

2011-09-09 Thread Poul Nissen
Yes - add glycerol to the reservoir - 15% glycerol has a huge influence on the vapour diffusion gradients Poul On 09/09/2011, at 13.22, anita p crystals...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Crystallographers, I have set hanging drop trays with 2ul of protein and 2 ul of resorvior solution. I have

Re: [ccp4bb] Is there a protein that it could interact with different proteins by the same part?

2011-08-23 Thread Poul Nissen
Calmodulin Poul On 23/08/2011, at 16.55, Pete Meyer wrote: We know one protein can interact with different partners by different domains or different parts. Is there a protein that it could interact with different proteins by the same part (maybe the same part but in different

Re: [ccp4bb] how to Collecting Data from Long Unit Cell Axes ?

2011-04-04 Thread Poul Nissen
Deng, You need a good synchrotron source with a low point spread detector, but not least a careful consideration in crystal mounting so that your crystal rotates apprx around the long axis during data collection to optimise the separation of reflections on the detector besides checking that

Re: [ccp4bb] MR with MD trajectories

2011-03-30 Thread Poul Nissen
Dear Wandu, It might be smeared density because it is missing from your phasing model, so no reason to reinvent the wheel with MD and Phaser. You see electron density features for the domain and you know its basic structure. You can place the domain manually - it would take you five minutes

Re: [ccp4bb] How to crystallize a helicase

2011-03-09 Thread Poul Nissen
Dear Art, It seems twisted, indeed. First of all you need to verify that your protein is at all in a good state (you seem to imply that it is not with your remark on protein concentration). Basic biophyscial characterisation for stability and structural homogeniety is required to reach proper

Re: [ccp4bb] optimization of dumbbell like crystal

2011-02-20 Thread Poul Nissen
Dear harvey Consider your purification and preparation protocols - is the sample pure and homogenous? Poul On 21/02/2011, at 03.29, Harvey Rodriguez h.rodriguez.x...@gmail.com wrote: Dear CCP4BBers, Recently I got a crystal which appeared in the condition 2.1M DL-Malic Acid, pH 7.0. The

Re: [ccp4bb] Citations in supplementary material

2010-11-18 Thread Poul Nissen
I agree with Tassos - and don't deny the power of evolution. Choice of journals, submissions, peer review, editorial assistance and citations are all in our hands - publishing has become what we have made it. We can argue that we want it differently (and to stay in the evolution terms: I also

Re: [ccp4bb] DNA-protein complex.

2010-10-31 Thread Poul Nissen
Dear dengzq1987 (Gmail Research Institute?) You could use ammonium acetate as the solubilizing salt. It evaporates as ammonia and acetic acid, so that the ionic strength is gradually reduced by vapor diffusion. You would then have e.g. PEG in the reservoir and added to the drop, and you could

Re: [ccp4bb] Radiation damage with crystals containing metal centers (TaBr people chime in?)

2010-10-04 Thread Poul Nissen
[1] the signal from Ta6Br12 is enormous and one will typically focus on low resolution (below 7 Å) so radiation sensitivity can be handled by a fairly low dose data collection We collected several data sets with Ta6Br12(2+) on the Na+,K+-ATPase (Morth JP et al. 2007) and found that although we

Re: [ccp4bb] Radiation damage with crystals containing metal centers (TaBr people chime in?)

2010-10-04 Thread Poul Nissen
Two separate crystals, but very similar data collection strategies P On 04/10/2010, at 21.48, Jacob Keller wrote: - Original Message - From: Poul Nissen p...@mb.au.dk To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 2:21 PM Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Radiation damage

Re: [ccp4bb] R factor R free struck

2010-10-03 Thread Poul Nissen
Try a lower symmetry, e.g. P21 or P1 with one or two octamers in the asymmetric unit (well, unit cell for P1), but you already know your packing so no problem solving it. It can sometimes be very subtle and your model refinement will be the most sensitive test for the correct space group - so

Re: [ccp4bb] Introducing PDBprints - salient, at-a-glance info about PDB entries

2010-07-15 Thread Poul Nissen
Also road signs can be cleverly replaced inline: attachment.jpeginline: attachment.jpeg On 15/07/2010, at 16.40, Phoebe Rice wrote: What would be wrong with WORDS? They were such a clever invention. I can tell the difference between colors, but it takes a second step to figure out what they

Re: [ccp4bb] metal-chelating affinity chromatography and FosCholine detergents

2010-07-13 Thread Poul Nissen
Dear Pascal, There can be a number of reasons for this. Maybe fos-cholines are not very well suited for your membrane proteins of interest? - have you checked for activity or aggregation and compared to other detergents? If the detergent is optimal you may consider moving/extending the tag or

Re: [ccp4bb] A strange case of MR

2010-07-12 Thread Poul Nissen
You mention that your Rsym is 0.6 - this seems outrageously high (except if the 0.6 is just for your outer resolution bin). If 0.6 is indeed the overall Rsym you have a basic problem of unit cell and space group assignment to reconsider. Check if your processing accounts for all spots and check

Re: [ccp4bb] Off-topic: crystallization after refolding

2010-07-12 Thread Poul Nissen
Try first to give it a shot and see if you get crystals without too much hassle and expense. I would recommend a size exclusion chromatography step after refolding and from that collect a uniform sample for crystallization. Poul On 12/07/2010, at 13.39, meindert lamers wrote: Dear all, I

Re: [ccp4bb] DATA COLLECTION?

2010-06-26 Thread Poul Nissen
collection around absorption edges. You cannot do crystallography and get and evaluate proper results without studying the basic theory and practice - crystallography is science after all, not black-box analysis. Poul Poul Nissen, professor

Re: [ccp4bb] How to distinguish microcrystalline, quasicystalline and precipitation?

2010-06-10 Thread Poul Nissen
Whether the shiny precipitate can be redissolved or not is an important observation. If not: bad. If yes: good Also one can check if the shiny precipitate can be used for streak-seeding in new drops. If not: bad/neutral. It yes: good. A bad shiny precipitate also often forms a large connected

Re: [ccp4bb] measuring volume of cavity

2010-05-10 Thread Poul Nissen
If you are down to a scale where you consider a single water molecule I would say that the volume is not a very useful parameter. I woudl rather ask if it makes chemical sense to place a water molecule, and if the structure is determined at a sufficient level of precision that you can

Re: [ccp4bb] Rsym problems...maybe???

2010-04-23 Thread Poul Nissen
I very much agree - refinement will tell you if the high-res data make sense. Another very good test is the Wilson plot - it should look straight and reasonable. Inflated I/sigI values will not escape a strange appearance such as the WIlson plot flattening out at higher resolution. I

Re: [ccp4bb] Expression of a protein of 43KDa

2010-02-18 Thread Poul Nissen
EF-Tu Poul On 18/02/2010, at 18.49, Armando Albert de la Cruz wrote: I am trying to overexpress a His-tagged protein of 29KDa in E.coli (BL21-codon plus) and I end up with a highly expressed product that of 43KDa that binds to the Ni-column. I also have nice crystals. Does anyone have any

[ccp4bb] Fwd: [ccp4bb] electron density slabs

2009-09-08 Thread Poul Nissen
This could be due to biscuit contamination of your protein - did you eat cake before setting up your crystallisation drops?Alternatively it could be a Fourier ripple - a very strong 5.4 Å resolution 00l reflection which is not correctPoulBegin forwarded message:From: hayato Jumonji

Re: [ccp4bb] Histogram matching in DM - question

2009-08-18 Thread Poul Nissen
Hi Peter, Histogram matching works well for RNA structure, but be aware that density modification in general can be very tricky at low resolution. If by any means you can exploit averaging, e.g. multicrystal averaging of non-isomorphous crystals, it will probably be very helpful. It will

Re: [ccp4bb] model bias

2009-08-11 Thread Poul Nissen
Great that you have MR phases - it will help you identify heavy-atom sites for phasing and perhaps even the sulphur sites will be enough. Poul On 11/08/2009, at 20.33, ManojSaxena wrote: Hi all, I am working with a protein that have 28% similar to my MR template. I have processed data in

Re: [ccp4bb] coupling between occupancy and b-values in refinement

2009-05-31 Thread Poul Nissen
If there is serious doubt of a full occupancy of the ligand and it is of importance for the interpreation it can in fact be handled and even at lower resolution (we have done it 2.8 Å resolution for PDB 2C8K for example) - I'm not the referee but maybe he/she is right ;-) You need not refine

Re: [ccp4bb] Hanging vs. Sitting

2009-04-30 Thread Poul Nissen
We often find results to be very different between hanging and sitting drops (equilibration kinetics for one may be the explanation). Then there's the good thing of hanging drops that crystals rarely stick to the surface of the support facilitating the mounting procedure, in particular for

Re: [ccp4bb] DM and MR

2009-04-15 Thread Poul Nissen
..and I may add that for DMMULTI two rather nonisomorphous data sets of the same crystal form can work like a dream, in particular at low resolution where solvent flattening and histogram matching can be tricky, see for example Morth et al. 2007, Nature 450, 1043 Pedersen et al. 2007,

Re: [ccp4bb] Could I improve an inconsecutive experimental map?

2009-02-21 Thread Poul Nissen
Hi alphar~ Check the sites you get from anomalous difference Fouriers and stick to those as your correct HA sites. At the same time you may consider not to refine the HA substructure on the anomalous differences but merely using the isomorphous differences. Maybe you need to change the

Re: [ccp4bb] LDAO SDS-PAGE

2008-12-17 Thread Poul Nissen
Besides the K-SDS precipitation it can also be the problem of membrane proteins generally having a tendency to aggregate when boiled with SDS. Try to just add the Laemmli buffer and load the gel without boiling. This is the general procedure for membrane proteins. Poul On 18/12/2008, at

Re: [ccp4bb] O/T: can a protein which dimerizes in solution crystallize as a monomer?

2008-12-11 Thread Poul Nissen
...and in absence of TM domains and the 2D restriction of the membrane they will probably not dimerize as free domains in solution now suddenly gained the freedom of 3D diffusion On 11/12/2008, at 19.03, Nathaniel Echols wrote: On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 8:09 AM, Santarsiero, Bernard D.

Re: [ccp4bb] Detergent Crystals In Tube?

2008-10-31 Thread Poul Nissen
The carry-over would be DDM, and my guess would be DDM crystals formed upon dehydration. The DDM concentration will be huge after repeated dilution/concentration cycles. DDM micelles will hardly pass the 50 kDa cut-off filter so imagine how much you have added! Poul On 31/10/2008, at

Re: [ccp4bb] asymmetric oligomers

2008-09-22 Thread Poul Nissen
located. Poul Nissen, professor, ph.d.Centre for Membrane Pumps in Cells and Disease - PUMPKIN Centre for Structural BiologyUniversity of Aarhus,Dept. Molecular BiologyGustav Wieds Vej 10C,DK - 8000 Aarhus C,Denmarkhttp://www.mb.au.dkhttp

Re: [ccp4bb] Protein concentration

2008-08-21 Thread Poul Nissen
Often the exact concentration is not so important compared to the ability to establish proportional read-out, ease and reproducibility so that systematic variations and comparisons can be made. For considerations of molar ratios of for example protein:ligand complexes one would often

Re: [ccp4bb] about anisotrophic diffraction

2008-06-24 Thread Poul Nissen
Ji, probably the oil doesn't work and the glycerol gets you into problems with phase separation in 2.5 M AmS I recommend sucrose or other sugars with AmS - 20-22% (w/vol) should do and you get no phase separation At the same time you may need to increase the AmS considerably - often the

Re: [ccp4bb] which concentrated salt has lowest vapour pressure?

2008-04-07 Thread Poul Nissen
We normally use AmS or glycerol. Poul On 07/04/2008, at 15.46, Kay Diederichs wrote: Dear all, a protein which we work on is available in low quantity. The only crystallization screen we set up is completely clear, no precipitate, nothing. Now we would like to modify the reservoirs of

Re: [ccp4bb] twinned?

2008-04-03 Thread Poul Nissen
Check this paper below - a C222(1) space group (a=212, b= 300, c=575) frequently appearing as a merohedral twin P2(1) with apparent C222(1) symmetry was exactly a major problem in the H. marismortui 50S structure determination.PoulBan N, Nissen P, Hansen J, Capel M, Moore PB, Steitz TA.Placement

Re: [ccp4bb] the worst molecular replacment probes

2007-09-22 Thread Poul Nissen
-- Poul Nissen, professor, ph.d. Centre for Membrane Pumps in Cells and Disease - PUMPKIN University of Aarhus, Dept. Molecular Biology Gustav Wieds Vej 10C, DK - 8000 Aarhus C, Denmark http://www.mb.au.dk http://www.bioxray.dk http

Re: [ccp4bb] the worst molecular replacment probes - three months

2007-09-22 Thread Poul Nissen
purely with MR? perhaps in terms of %-scattering, RMSD, Z-score, LLG, or other possibly specific scoring values. -bryan -- Poul Nissen, professor, ph.d. Centre for Membrane Pumps in Cells and Disease - PUMPKIN University of Aarhus

Re: [ccp4bb] Structures with pseudo-uridine?

2007-04-27 Thread Poul Nissen
Hi Yuan, Basically all tRNA structures in pdb will contain pseudo-U, and starting from old tRNAPhe literature you will find a lot on the structural consequences of having pseudo-U in RNA. Poul On 27/04/2007, at 3.45, Yuan Lin wrote: Dear All, I solved a structure of a

Re: [ccp4bb] Highest shell standards

2007-03-24 Thread Poul Nissen
opinion, it is better to have a good 1.8 Å structure, than a poor 1.637 Å structure. Are these recommendations still valid with maximum likelihood methods? We tend to use more data, especially in terms of the Rmerge and sigma cuttoff. Thanks in advance, *Shane Atwell* -- Poul Nissen